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maclatunji: You know the Nile and Amazon are now salty after you mixed them with salt water. #LOL

Keep telling yourself you are special. #Hehehe

Did you do any basic Chemistry in school? There is something called a physical and chemical change and I find it difficult that people go to school to learn stuffs, see evidence and yet decide to maintain some stone age reasoning just because a book said so. It is really sad and disappointing.

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ayobase: Why hasn't this made it to the front page yet.....Oga Seun, pls go edit ur duplicated post biko!

Science can prove anything to be through, that what Thomas wanted. PROVE IT TO ME AND I WILL BELIEVE.

The fact u don't believe in God makes is so easy to counter anything SUPERNATURAL.

As far as I'm concerned, God hasn't changed, but we.

God created rain, sun, thunder, lightning, snow, fog and the likes, but we still have to protect ourselves from them in some ways.

If God has used just simple rain (water) to wipe out the earth before, then I don't see why he can't use others to do the same, besides He is gonna use fire later. That's left for you to believe or not!

I LIVE BY FAITH, and not by SIGHT!

God is the greatest scientist, Engineer, Author, Builder, Architect........ A creator begat creator!

Have you asked yourself why the INVENTORS are predominantly Christians or Jews?

ayobase: Why hasn't this made it to the front page yet.....Oga Seun, pls go edit ur duplicated post biko!

Science can prove anything to be through, that what Thomas wanted. PROVE IT TO ME AND I WILL BELIEVE.

The fact u don't believe in God makes is so easy to counter anything SUPERNATURAL.

As far as I'm concerned, God hasn't changed, but we.

God created rain, sun, thunder, lightning, snow, fog and the likes, but we still have to protect ourselves from them in some ways.

If God has used just simple rain (water) to wipe out the earth before, then I don't see why he can't use others to do the same, besides He is gonna use fire later. That's left for you to believe or not!

I LIVE BY FAITH, and not by SIGHT!

God is the greatest scientist, Engineer, Author, Builder, Architect........ A creator begat creator!

Have you asked yourself why the INVENTORS are predominantly Christians or Jews?

ayobase: Why hasn't this made it to the front page yet.....Oga Seun, pls go edit ur duplicated post biko!

Science can prove anything to be through, that what Thomas wanted. PROVE IT TO ME AND I WILL BELIEVE.

The fact u don't believe in God makes is so easy to counter anything SUPERNATURAL.

As far as I'm concerned, God hasn't changed, but we.

God created rain, sun, thunder, lightning, snow, fog and the likes, but we still have to protect ourselves from them in some ways.

If God has used just simple rain (water) to wipe out the earth before, then I don't see why he can't use others to do the same, besides He is gonna use fire later. That's left for you to believe or not!

I LIVE BY FAITH, and not by SIGHT!

God is the greatest scientist, Engineer, Author, Builder, Architect........ A creator begat creator!


Have you asked yourself why the INVENTORS are predominantly Christians or Jews?

Next time back you claim with evidence.

Nonbelievers Who Received the Nobel Prize
* Atheists, Agnostics, Freethinkers, Humanists, Humanities Humanists, Scientific Humanists, or Unitarians
These guys are the greatest mind that ever lived and they didn't believe in god.
Source: http://philosopedia.org/index.php?title=Nobel_Prize_Winners#Nonbelievers_Who_Received_the_Nobel_Prize

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*Jane Addams
*Norman Angell
*Klas Pontus Arnoldson
*Svante August Arrhenius
*Aung San Suu Kyi - Buddhist
*Emily Green Balch and also was a Unitarian and Friend - Emily Greene Balch who won the 1946 prize for founding, along with Jane Addams, the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom.
*John Bardeen- won the prize in physics in 1962 and also in 1972
*Etienne-Emile Baulieu
*Samuel Beckett
*Baruj Benacerraf
*Bjornstjerne Bjornson
*Paul D. Boyer
*Albert Camus
*Rene Cassin
*Francis Crick
*Marie Curie
*Pierre Curie
*Christian René de Duve
*Albert Einstein
*William Faulkner
*Richard P. Feynman
*Edward H. Fisher
*Dario Fo
*Anatole France
*John Galsworthy
*Murray Gell-Mann
*Herbert Hauptman
*Ernest Hemingway
*Harold W. Kroto
*Selma Lagerlof
*Sharles Laveran
*Jean-Marie Lehn
*John Levermore
*Sinclair Lewis
*André Lwoff
*Naguib Mahfouz
*Niels Bohr
*Thomas Mann
*Robert Millikan
*Mario José Molina
*Theodore Mommsen
*Herbert J. Muller
*Ferad Murad
*Alva Myrdal
*Fridtjof Nansen
*Eugene O'Neill
*Carl von Ossietzky
*Linus Pauling
*Octavio Paz
*Henrik Pontoppidan
*Ludwig Quidde
*Charles Richet
*Ronald Ross
*Bertrand Russell
*Andre Sakharov
*José Saramago
*Jean-Paul Sartre
*Erwin Schrödinger
*Albert Schweitzer
*George Bernard Shaw
*Charles Scott Sherrington
*Jens Christian Skou
*Michael Smith
*Wole Soyinka
*John Steinbeck
*Jack Steinberger
*James Dewey Watson
*Steven Weinberg
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Nigerians are generally religiously crazy. Even in Europe and America, they taunt and abuse you for being irreligious let alone being in Nigeria which is the den of religion itself. Personally for me, I just disregard religious discussions except when I get insulted for my unbelief in which case I give them serious warning never to engage such nonsense with me anymore.
Be ready to deal with family and friends all the time on why you don't share in their gullibility and also expect some to call you fools even though they are the foolish ones. Most people there just don't have independent sense of reasoning but allow others to think for them.

Mamacita007: Please for someone born in holland but never visited and is now about to apply to universities there, will he pay cheaper tuition than international students? Is he authorized to work even though hes not a citizen? Thanks

You don't get any benefit for being born in the Netherlands. You will be treated like a Nigerian if you have the Nigerian passport and you are not allowed to work there. You will also pay the Non EU tuition fees because you are not an EU citizen.

kambo: and wat about them? Wat do they prove?
So much for a meangless ancient story u spend so much time researchg on to discredit.
How about john 3.16? It's in d same bible.
Job 42 - in d same bible.
Wat about Jesus who spared a woman frm being stoned with a right word.
Wat about "cast all ur care upon him for he cares 4 u"
wat about nothg can separate us from d lov of God in christ Jesus.

I cud quote reams more and ask u the same question? "wat about these ones too? Or arent they in d same bible . Acts of d same God?".
You see wat u want to see. Ur so called objective criticism is rotten with bias.

Also dyu know wat sin is its gravity its impact,repercussion,penalty? U dnt knw enuff to utter a critism.

Dyu know who a King is, his power, scope of authority,
rights and priviledges.

Dyu know d law. And wat is legal or not and its application in d bible?

You and no atheists knows enuff to judge.
U thnk God govmnt is a democracy where the vote of d ppl counts or must b curried to gain/remain in power.

First remove those blinders frm ur eyes b4 postg ur next critique.

I cud answer ur question in detail but tht wud b a waste of time

Meaningless post with no direction. I normally avoid debating with religious people because their reasoning is very skewed. I posted quote from d bible that is suppose to have come from your God and instead of facing those quotes, you went off point talking about king. Use your brain to reason and stop allowing pastors to think for you,

kambo: there's nothg rational about ur arguments.theyre out of context and biased twrds ur favred viewpoint. First,u hate God then u look 4 scriptures to justify ur hatred. A psychopath displays wanton violent bhvior.. U hav no scriptures to support these accusation Yet u push it as logical.
Since want 2 appear objective, u shud know God cant do bets because he is all knowg, satan isnt all knwg and wanted to prove a point with job.
Job recovered all -lost time,money,children. Theologians estimate jobs trials to have spanned about 9 months.
His short affliction wrought greater good.
God owns evrythg on earth includg humans by legal fact tht He created them.this includes job's children. U can do wat u like with ur property.absolutely anythg u like. God isnt accountable to no man 4 His actions. God choosg to b a good God and respect human will is out of his inherent nature which is Love. If God were wicked and tyrannical He wud still b legally justified.

Since ur tryg 2 b objectve, y havnt u railed against Satan?..
His motto is : kill,steal,destroy.
..he is responsible for the actual attacks in job's life.
Y dnt u emphasize the Good acts of God which is all over d bible. U purposely ignore them 2 make a biased point. "and God blessed the later end of job", "and God blessed..","and God heard his/her prayer","and God gave:..","and God fought for ...", "and God remembered his promise...", "and God prospered the works of...", .
"and God had Compassion on..."
U cant read the OT without seeing these verses.
Hate God all u like but
Stay objective wen claimg to make logical points.

Meaningless ancient story. I wonder how people believe all these stories and still call the Christian god a just one. You can selectively pick verses that speak good of your god but pretend not to see verses that shows he is also an evil god. What do you have to say about these biblical verses?

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1. Leviticus 20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.


2. Deuteronomy 22:20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.



3. Exodus 35:2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.


4. Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.


5. Deuteronomy 20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.


6. Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.


7. Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

8. Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.


9. 1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
1 Peter 2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.


10. Leviticus 25:44-45 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.[/b]

Itoroetti :
clap for yourself.watch out d curve of ur life

Stop this nonsense threat and use your god to eradicate poverty from your over religious Nigeria.

PAGAN 9JA:
i hope they kill him. if he did such a thing in my neighbourhood, we would have roasted his on a spit. ugly b.astard what did the snake do to him. why does he have to offend our religion?

Your way of reasoning is too backward for someone with access to the internet. I really wonder how people will have access to limitless information and yet prefer to remain in the stone age era. It is a real pity.

amos adamu: He doesn't have to be an atheis, I finished secondary school in 1999, I passed waec and Jamb at the first attempt.. I got admitted in 2010, but today I'm better than most graduates cos in between those waiting years I pursued my passion- IT. Today I write projects for computer science graduate, and masters.. Don't lose hope just ask d Almighty to show you the best path

You brag about writing project for BSc and MSc students yet you are talking about an almighty.
Nigerians are serious hypocrites. I really don't understand how people will be committing crime and still claim to worship some god. Its really pathetic.

i-smoke-weed:
my dear i feel like laughing this evening. I DARE YOU TO POST THE FULL STORY OF YOUR MEETING WITH THAT DRUNK WHITE RACIST RIGHT HERE FOR ALL TO SEE, after all you said he was your first contact and what you both talked about that day is the main reason and basis for your turning away from God.

you think you have a good ground to discredit God, but in reality you are just a common 'empty head' with an internet enabled phone, spare mb and a lot of vaccum UPSTAIRS


we are waiting for the EXPANDED VERSION of that your conversion story (especially the first line), dont summarize it for us this time okay.

OlooSHi !!

Don't you have something better to do with your time rather than following and insulting someone for having a different view from you?

Joel.:
hello nairaland atheists, firstly let me apologize if you guys find this thread insulting and i do believe most of you were once a christian or maybe already ve pass through several religion before you back out and made conclusion for atheism, and mostly due to frustration, at first you guys feel frustrated as your prayers were not answered or maybe the religion is not working for you as expected before the thought about “does God truely exist?” came into you. and maybe you have dedicate much time and prayed tiredlessly to no avail before you take time to read through the bible with “anger”. when you read the bible with anger or trying to disbelief you will never be satisfied but finding fault everywhere. i would like to say this that you guys are not the only forks who is feeling this way, even true believing christian does so due to all the above. let me also say this, the bible can not and never be satisfactory to human thought, there are mystic to it, those who believe or take the bible matters seriously do so by faith

This is for you to ponder on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RXmkftK0Sw

van bonattel: Just to confuse people, this is a set up to make us believe they are after the main patrons. It might be the emir of Kano that payed for the bombs and told them to detonate it in front of his palace. He has paid for the lives of the terrorists killed tonight.

This is arrant nonsense! Think properly before you say something in the public

Logicboy03: Agreed......however, you seem to be into some spirituality nowadays or has it always been so. I ave no problem with spiritual peeps, it is the religious tat can get really silly.

Logicboy is back!

onyfrank: Computers aren't capable of rational thought and knw nothing abt morals, yet they av more sense than d most learned atheist.

Somebody was deleting unwanted files while working on his PC. There was a html file that showed all of d 10 Commandment. Since it is a duplicate file, he decided to delete it also. When he clicked "delete," d usual message came on d screen dat said 'Are you sure you want to send the '10
commandments' to the Recycle bin?'
D question struck him very deeply bkus of hw it was worded and 4 a moment he hesistated 2 delete the file.
After clicking 'yes,' a msg box came up on d screen dat said an illegal act had been performed by a program.

So what atheist has sense enough 2 think as correctly as dat unthinking computer. Atheist do nt think it's illegal act to try to destroy d 10 commandments.

You need some education. I can't believe people still reason this backward in this age.

vedaxcool: Haba "L"B take am easy nawh! Jesus never spoke broken english, so it is beyond scientific fact that he could not have said Oga on the top (I actually coughed out a bit of laughter though) but any way this is unwarranted, u have been mocking Jesus the same way frosbel have been mocking the "Holy"See please two of u should be careful this things have repercussions!

Jesus never spoke Queen's English either. He spoke Hebrew which was translated by scholars to other languages including English Language

israel boy: y barack obama?

y not Barack Obama?

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Βουκέφαλος:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdIlzAyueow

John Maccain couldn't use the internet too. although his answers were clumsy. especially the " oga at the top" nonsense he was saying. we should cut the senior citizens some slack when it comes to technology abeg. even seniors in developed countries are still behind

Did you really understand the message in the video you posted?

I made this post so that Nigerians can see one of the reason why we are backward. There are many educated and better qualified Nigerians both home and abroad that can man government effectively but due to favoritism and nepotism, we have thrown merit away. We just have to look for a way of stopping these unqualified guys from getting into government otherwise none of our problems will be solved.

Civil Defence Commandant Can't Tell His Organisation's Web Address

This is exactly one of the reasons why Nigeria is still more than 100 years behind developed countries. So many incompetent people in government.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ZV8pfJS34

Why would any woman be a christian?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JIKOMQV5A

You have to know being married is not easy

Religious argument is really a waste of time. Discussion is meant for learning but that is not what I see here. If there is no intention of analyzing issues objectively from all paties involved, then threads like this should not exist.

FXKing2012: You say I dont work yet I can employ you. Come to think of it, maybe that's why I dont have any qualms giving a woman something substantial if need be. It's only a man who hasnt handled REAL money that is willing to die for the little he has. Little wonder the likes of Michael Jordan, Johnny Depp, Bernie Ecclestone, Rupert Murdoch, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg, Tiger Woods, Madonna, James Cameron, Paul McCartney, Kevin Costner, Kenny Rogers, Lionel Richie, Donald Trump, Michael Douglas, Mick Jagger, etc etc didnt find it outrageous to settle their exes big time and didnt go about calling them thieves after the settlement.

Only poor and average people go on ranting about divorce settlements. If you are truly rich you will not even lose sleep over it because what you will still have left after the settlement is way over and beyond what you can spend in your lifetime.

Now I know why my thinking is very different - like minds think alike.

Another post to confirm you have a negative figure IQ. Your brain is a waste to mankind because your kind will contribute nothing to societal development

FXKing2012: @dayokanu & 2good, yes the man takes care of the woman while pregnant but you still havent addressed how you expect the woman to make any real contribution after carrying pregnancy and nursing kids for 13yrs out of the 15yrs she was married.
Or would u suggest she risk losing the pregnancy by working while heavily pregnant? Or she should abandon the babies at home and go chasing after money?

Pls put yourselves in her shoe and tell me how you are going to make any reasonable income to contribute based on the analogy I gave about a woman being pregnant and nursing kids for 13yrs out of the 15yrs she was married.

You did not answer my question on whether U are married at all. Also I am pretty sure you don't work else you will that pregnant women work till month 6 in most places and get a career break with or without pay for sometime after delivery. You seem to be very inexperience in life from all what you're typing here. Mothers with careers don't have 5 heads.

FXKing2012: Now how easy/possible is it for a woman who carried pregnancy for 9months and then nursed the baby for 2-3yrs to work and make money to contribute to buying assets?

Assuming she was married for 15yrs and had 4 children in the process, then she must have spent 9months * 4 equals 36months (3yrs) being pregnant and 2.5yrs * 4 equals 10yrs nursing the kids.
So in all she spent 13yrs out of the 15yrs she was married being pregnant and nursing the children while the man was working and making money all along.

Now when it's time to share assets you say to share according to financial contribution? Does that sound even remotely fair? If it sounds fair to you then it's only fair for the woman to keep the kids, with the man having no access to them because bringing them (the kids) into the world and raising/nursing them is what she has been busy doing ( or contributing). Remember you said to go with what you contributed.

Pls do away with the bias and be objective.

When she was pregnant who was the person feeding her, housing her, clothing her and giving her emotional support? Who also provided finance to give the children a good future? Look you are not married that is why you say this crap. I work offshore under -20 deg C sometimes and the suffering I go through working under cold cannot be quatified. I go through all these to provide for my wife and kids yet you're talking nonsense about emotional support and pregnancy stress. When you get married you can raise this topic again for discussion.

F00028: so how do those unbelieving atheists think we got here then?

Personally as an Atheist, I don't know but if you tell me you know and quote the bible, then you are an ignorant man that doesn't want to learn about the unknown.

frosbel: I start with mine :

1. Using logic, reason and scientific evidence, kindly trace back to the beginning , the origin of MAN.

2. In your own words, describe how you think human reproductive organs evolved into what it is today

3. If we came from monkeys , how come we still have monkeys around today


Thanks,

Atheism is different from evolution theory. Not every Atheist have absolute believe in evolution. Just want to clarify that so ask more reasonable questions next time

armyofone: By the way, three of my sisters are at Naval Academy and West Point So there are other real tough places too. The only point I tried to make is: Nigerian women are hardworking. But hey. . . you know what, no need for long argument as there are real wars in middle East . But carry on!
SemperFi

If they are in West Point, then they have really worked hard to be there and they don't belong to the category of women we are talking about here. You know yourself that only few women work that hard to get into a place like West point and they cannot throw away their career to be a permanent sit at home mum and expect to be taken serious by a man.

FXKing2012: GBAM!

lol!

armyofone: I have seen that before bros. I know a lot about her. I said at some point, she was a stay at home mom.

She graduated from Duke in 1986 and married Bill in 1994. Does she look like the average woman to you? Do you think its easy to get into Duke? Don't even bring up the issue of Melinda Gates if you want to give an example of a lazy woman because she already had a career before marrying Bill Gate. Many women get some form of long Maternity leave etc without pay for sometime but go back to work when they are fit to work. Many Nigerian women on the other hand, feels they are not suppose to work simply because their husband earns good money.