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LOGIC BOY all the way...

ChopUrMoni: I DONT want a man chasing my virginity. I want a man to chase me! All my friends who are virgins have ended up marrying white men because a lot of you guys can not see beyond the physic of a woman. You want to know whether she is a virgin before you chase her. Those are not the kind of men we want! We want men who see's pass out physical attributes and look deeper into our heart. I must that's why many guys with this mindset end up with girls that have been around the block simply because you REFUSE to see beyond the physical attributes.

You have a big inferioty complex problem with you race. Deal with that problem fast

Xeroz: Are you saying there are no generational curses or saying visions are fake?

Yes there are no generational curse and visions are fake. You were brainwashed from birth to believe these things and so you find it difficult accepting the fact that they are all hoax.

kalufelix: seriously u re d one who needs primary education....hw can u be so rigid in ur understandin. so yhu think Gods revelations shows like tom cruise movies

So your god does not know the difference between airplane and a helicopter? Ignoramus.

Smooyis: Prophecies or even dreams are not meant to be interpreted or analysed carnally. He even mentioned in his prophecy that a governor will be involved in the crash, asking his wisemen to join him in prayers and fasting. What can he do alone? He is not God. You people won't believe him and your obstinate and corrupt government won't give a damn. Well we are all in it. Time shall reveal who represents the truth and light. This is not a matter of religion or denomination. We have got a great gift of prophecy in T B Joshua. The earlier we seek him for direction and guidance in this country, the better for us. I pray we would not lose him to other country someday as a result of our unbelief.

What if I prophesy that there will be a plane crash in 2013 and influential politicians including governor will be killed? There is atleast an 80% probability that it will come to pass because Nigeria lack maintenance culture, technical know how is poor and nothing works. Also it is mainly people in the middle class and upper class that can afford flying because of the cost so a plane crash will most likely have influential people on board. I can also go ahead and say some influential politicians will die through auto crash in 2013 because there is an almost 100% certainty that one of them will die in a road accident because we have very bad roads in Nigeria. Are you religious geek this daft to clearly see that these MOG are using your gullibility to get your attention so they can reap you off your money?

Too much religion that kills the reasoning capacity of people. Nigerians are all waiting for god to come help them solve even the most basic problem which the white race have mostly solved for the last 200 years through moving from Religious dogma to more secular reasoning

1stCitizen: No it was okada crash

I don't blame you for your ignorance. It is the poor state of education in Nigeria that I blame. Continue to wallow in your delusion

okpara ugo: So an helicopter is not an aircraft

Okay, its a boat crash.

1stCitizen: "On Sunday July 15th, 2012, TB Joshua predicted a looming plane crash that will take Nigeria by storm.
According to him, if this plane crash is not averted, around 9-12 top Nigerian politicians will die.
He further revealed that the crash will happen on their way back from a conference or meeting.
They will be from nine to twelve in number and they’ll all perish.
He said the devil plans to strike them if they are all together on one flight.
According to his prediction, the solution to this looming tragedy is that all the officials should never board one flight.
Nigerians should be in prayers to avert this coming disaster. What do you think of this prophesy?"

http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/news/top-stories/188877-tb-joshua-predicts-plane-crash-in-nigeria-that-will-kill-top-politicians.html

The above is what the OP quoted. Can you clearly see that plane crash is not thesame as Helicopter crash?

Dankudi: Did either of you even bother to read carefully before making these comments. The OP used the words "striking similarities" Hope you read documents well before appending your signatures else you will one day sign your lives away.

Ode which striking similarity? Someone is already making conclusion from wrong comparison and you are here saying nonsense because you are deluded like the OP. Keep on looking for miracle where there is none.

Is this a plane crash or a helicopter crash? May be you need a little primary education.

F00028: As a Biologist with a PhD in Neurosciences, I’m well aware that this is a controversial subject for both scientists and religious people alike. Scientists consider it ridiculous even to entertain the notion that science, a human achievement built on logic and reason, could possibly have anything in common with religious myths.

1. Science Requires Faith
Even highly-specialized scientists will often pursue a certain line of thought, and explore the implications of certain theory while rejecting others, based on nothing more than intuitive preferences, and their sense of what is elegant and right.

Most people who reject the religion they once accepted will claim to have done so in favor of the reasonable, clear-cut answers provided by logic and science. When asked to explain the existence of the universe, they’ll mention the Big Bang and M Theories; when asked to explain the existence of humans, they’ll mention evolution.

When pressed to explain any of the above, however, they soon realize that they actually understand very little. They were exhibiting blind faith – accepting the theories without comprehending them. If you don’t understand something, yet accept it as the truth, then you’re simply a Believer – and like much of science, you’ll find yourself well within the territory of religion.

2. Most of Science is Unfounded
Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Quantum Strings and Ego –all of them sound like plausible stories. But can anyone point out the Ego locus in a dissected brain? Or use the concept of Dark Energy for anything besides helping to explain the expanding universe –another scientific theory? There is no actual proof for any of these theories.

That’s right – we have no proof for the existence of 96% of what science thinks the universe is made of –and yet the theories explaining it (we call them theories to avoid calling them stories) we hold to be true. Why? you ask. Because we have faith

3. Science Will Bend to Accommodate Modern Trends
If you think scientists are immune to the pressure to conform to public opinion –think again. I am not even going to consider the announcements made by scientists under totalitarian regimes (such as racist “conclusions”), because I consider these to be forced aberrations.

Instead I will use the scientific approach to homosexuality. It was included in the list of personality disorders of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM) up to its 1973 edition. It was then removed – only to be replaced a year later by a close variant, before being removed entirely in 1986. Upon what evidence rested the changing decisions to include or exclude homosexuality among mental disorders? Public sentiment, backed by convenient “empirical evidence”, played a leading role.

4. Science is Based on Established Dogmas
Ever wonder how for centuries, the best doctors could insist on blood-letting as a cure – without ever noticing that their patients did worse? The answer: belief in blood-letting was part of the scientific dogma at the time.

Anything contradicting this dogma is simply rejected and ignored, or ridiculed for as long as possible. Science thus has the trappings of a full blown religion.

5. Science Has Its Own Priesthood
Newton, Darwin and Einstein serve as the holy trinity of western science. And below these are the elders: Watson, Crick, Dawkins, Hawking, Dennet, Chomsky, Penrose and Sagan. And then you have the High Priests: the Nobel Prize winners, the popular writers and the media celebrities.

Their opinions are received as sermons, and their statements are quoted like sacred texts. Ordinary people are ridiculed, if they doubt the interpretations of this priesthood. Even for scientists, questioning a member of a higher tier is done only at your own risk. After all, all scientific work (from papers to grant applications) is peer reviewed, remember?

6. Science Has Its Own Code of Ethics
There are state laws, and there are moral laws. And now, according to science, there are “laws of scientific conduct”. All kinds of atrocities are committed in the name of science – take a doctor, for example, who has to give placebo pills to a number of his patients in a drug trial, knowing that they will suffer or die much sooner than if they had received proper treatment.

But scientific advancement almost always claims precedence over personal morality. And – unless you’re a zealot yourself – its ethics will clash with your personal code of conduct.

7. Science Makes up Stories to Explain Our Origins
The Sumerians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Aztecs – all of them had creation myths, probably invented around a fire. All of them took their creation myths seriously. Now, of course, we have science to explain our origins.

You know what its latest version of this story is? In the beginning, there were giant membranes. These membranes touched each other, triggering something called the “Big Bang”. Sure.

8. Science Reveres Its Own Saints
The ranks of science martyrdom may be thin, yet its members are revered as far greater scientists they actually were. Take Galileo Galilei, for example, the patron saint of all scientists persecuted by religious orders. He actually contributed very little to science: most of his achievements were technical, such as tampering with telescopes. Heliocentricity was known since the 4th century BC.

9. It Casts Out Heretics and Persecutes all Other Religions
Science, like God in the Old Testament, behaves jealously against any other religion. So science will say to its followers: “You shall have no other gods before me”.

If you have any doubts, try asking an audience at a scientific convention to join you in a prayer. From that moment on you’ll be called a theist-scientist. A heretic. A miasma. An abomination. Just look up how Kurt Gödel was viewed at Princeton after circulating his ontological proof of God.

10. Science Thinks Humans are Special
It is understandable that religion might place man in the center of the universe –but for science to do so is inexcusable. However, a great number of astrophysicists and cosmologists are eager to talk about how the universe conforms to the “anthropic principle”.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why human understanding – above that of slugs, dolphins and monkeys – should be wide enough to encompass the universe. Anthropocentrism – the assumption that humans take center-stage in the universe – is rife in the sciences, as it is in religion.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10-reasons-science-is-another-religion/

Is it not so funny that you castigate science yet you are so much ready to use a product of science which is computer, to propagate your anti science message. Also go to your churches today and see how your pastors use the products of scientific inventions like i-pad, electronic bible, internet, television, projector etc to propagate your god's message. I mean you religious people are so deluded that you don't even reason before making a claim. I wonder when all these madness will end.

Atheist:-D:
Until they hit a roof and ppl begin to abandon Xtianity due to failed promises.

Unfortunately, I don't see people abandoning religion because of laziness of the brain. They are just too afraid to question the status quo.

ACK CITY: I have heard lots of people discussing and complaining about the increase in the number of pastors in the world today. Maybe I have joined in such conversations in the past too.

But after studying this portion of the bible I discovered that many more pastors will spring up because there’s still so much work to be done before the coming of the groom.

Look at the story in Matthew 9:35-38, Jesus traveled through all the towns and villages of that area, teaching in the synagogue and announcing the Good News about the kingdom. And he healed every kind of disease and illness.

Just the same way God is working today, through His prophets to heal people and deliver many oppressed.

In verse 36 of Matthew 9, when he (Jesus) saw the crowds, he had compassion on them because they were confused and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.

Okay, you will understand it now, the reason why Jesus had compassion on these people was because they were confused and helpless.

Many people in the world today are confused and helpless just like in the time of Jesus. Poverty is everywhere, no jobs, people are suffering, marriages are failing, children duping their parents, friends cheating friends, people using others for money rituals, and Government not doing anything to help the masses. Yes, there is confusion everywhere and people are helpless!

Take a look at this and you will understand why many more pastors will spring up: Matthew 9: 37, He(Jesus) said to his disciples, “The harvest is great, (the people to be saved from oppression, poverty, confusion, helplessness and hopelessness are many) but the workers (pastors, evangelists, bishops, prophets and teachers) are few.

Don’t forget that from this study the duties of men of God are to save people who are confused and helpless.

Possibly, the “confused and helpless people” in the world today are up to or more than 75% of the world’s population. How many pastors do you think will be too much to guide, counsel, teach and prophecy on these great number of people?

Jesus concluded by telling his disciples in verse 38, “So pray to the Lord who is in charge of the harvest (people); ask Him to send more workers into His fields”

This prayer was prayed long ago by the disciples of Jesus, today many great men of God are still praying the same prayer. So in the same manner that many apostles sprang up after the disciples prayed to God for more workers, is the same way that many pastors are springing up in the world today to help the helpless and guide the confused, through the word of God.

You too can be that great man of God, all you need to do is to pray to Him for guide and be willing to be committed to His work.

God bless you.

Notice: Unless otherwise indicated, all scripture quotations are taken from the Holy Bible, New Living Translation.

For more information and sponsor enquiry of the CITY Pastor’s Ministry, please Contact: citypastor@ackcity.net

Source: http://www.ackcity.net/more-pastors-will-spring-up

More pastor means more brainwashing, loss of independent reasoning capacity by Nigerians which will in turn result in more delusional expectation of miracle from some god to come solve basic daily problems. The whole drama above culminates in more poverty and underdevelopment in Nigeria. I pity my race!

Mr_Anony: As I said, you are running on faulty presumptions. I repeat: I have never met any Christian who doesn't pray for God's will above his/her own!
Secondly, how do you know that they know that they will die? have you recently picked up mind reading as a hobby?


As I said, a Christian wants to live to declare the glory of God and win more into the kingdom, and we also want to see His face so if He says "Come back home my son, you have finished your race." With great joy we will return to Him and if He grants us longer life on earth, we will use that time to continue to proclaim His Goodness. It is all about His will and not ours. Our purpose is to do the will of our Father.



Lol, you are still carrying on assuming that we are afraid of death. No we are not. The reason why you can't understand it is because your heart is by nature selfish so you expect a christian to want to die once he/she has been saved because that is the kind of thing you would do.

Praying that God gives us long life is not because we are scared of death. If God wills it we will live long and proclaim His glory and if He wills that we come home to Him, then we will go rejoicing. It is all about God not us.

Show me one Christian from the bible who begged for his/her life when faced with death. Also show me one Christian from the bible who prayed for a speedy and painless death. There are none! But I can show you from scripture a good number of Christians who submitted their lives to God even on to the point of death. I wonder from whence you invented these "christians" you are talking about.


Lol, of course mazaje knows this for sure because only last week mazaje held a gun to anony's head and witnessed him crying to God to save his life.

You're completely making no sense. Try to be atleast 20% rational in your response. I know that religion makes even the best educated man to throw away logic just to defend their blind faith but yours is really to the extreme.

FXKing2012: The apostles were called Christians for the first time on the day of the penticost (Acts 2). This means that the first Christians were penticostal Christians.
So quit spreading the false notion that the first Christians were catholics.

your level if delusion is beyond imagination. Pentecostal movement originated from the Lutheran church created by a former Roman Catholic German monk called Martin Luther. Get a proper history education and stop reading your bible

SaveNigeria: This is one of the signs of the end times. Jesus is on His way for His people. Are you ready for Him?

You are so daft and deluded. A waste of human brain.

seedord247: Stop thinking with poverty mentality.

They have effective drainage system..... You thought every country put thier garbage on the street like naija

It is your thinking that is skewed. Its better to keep quiet than typing nonsense.

I think its about time that posts like this from the OP be deleted and not pushed to the front page because its just make a mockery of the intelligence of people.

frosbel: mr. atheist, just grow up and go away, give people a chance to believe in whatever they want.

Stop trolling .

ok Sir Frosbel, I will give you all chance. Enjoy the remaining discussion

sunkoye: let me tell u about my and ur God!see, We cannot have a right conception of God unless we think of Him as all-powerful, as well as all-wise. He who cannot do what he will and perform all his pleasure cannot be God. As God hath a will to resolve what He deems good, so has He power to execute His will.

The power of God is that ability and strength whereby He can bring to pass whatsoever He pleases, whatsoever His infinite wisdom may direct, and whatsoever the infinite purity of His will may resolve. . . . As holiness is the beauty of all God’s attributes, so power is that which gives life and action to all the perfections of the Divine nature. How vain would be the eternal counsels, if power did not step in to execute them. Without power His mercy would be but feeble pity, His promises an empty sound, His threatenings a mere scarecrow. God’s power is like Himself: infinite, eternal, incomprehensible; it can neither be checked, restrained, nor frustrated by the creature. (S. Charnock).

"God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this, that power belongeth unto God" (Ps. 62:11). "God hath spoken once": nothing more is necessary! Heaven and earth shall pass away, but His word abideth forever. God hath spoken once: how befitting His Divine majesty! We poor mortals may speak often and yet fail to be heard. He speaks but once and the thunder of His power is heard on a thousand hills. "The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave His voice; hailstones and coals of fire. Yea, He sent out His arrows, and scattered them; and He shot out lightnings, and discomfited them. Then the channels of waters were seen and the foundations of the world were discovered at Thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of Thy nostrils" (Ps. 18:13-15).

"God hath spoken once": behold His unchanging authority. "For who in the heaven can be compared unto the Lord? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the Lord?" (Ps. 89:6). "And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What dost Thou?" (Dan. 4:35). This was openly displayed when God became incarnate and tabernacled among men. To the leper He said, "I Will, be thou clean, and immediately his leprosy was cleansed" (Matt. 8:3). To one who had lain in the grave four days He cried, "Lazarus, come forth," and the dead came forth. The stormy wind and the angry wave were hushed at a single word from Him. A legion of demons could not resist His authoritative command.

"Power belongeth unto God," and to Him alone. Not a creature in the entire universe has an atom of power save what God delegates. But God’s power is not acquired, nor does it depend upon any recognition by any other authority. It belongs to Him inherently.

God’s power is like Himself, self-existent, self-sustained. Bro, its either u say all wat u see is an illussion and does nt exist or u worship my God. Two choices u have!

Can't believe you spent so much time typing this gibberish in response to my earlier question. Does you response make any logical sense to you?

sunkoye: yea...“What is beyond all space and time, what is uncreated, eternal,dat came into nature, descended into His own universe, and rose again.”bro..that is my God am talkin about here!

The Muslims, Jews and many other religion also lay claim to serve that god, so why are you sure yours is the authentic one? Don't you think you're all confused?

Check out these old NTA commercials. Bring back memories of my childhood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPXAqzCqFMY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6WyYyufuI&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Rooneyboy: Mr know it all, u don't consider ur self as gullible abi ?
By wetin u dey worship ?

I don't worship anything because all religion are man made except you can prove to me they are not.
Also I don't know it all I just want people to use their brain to reason logically before accepting every news or story they are fed.

LemonBoy1: U nid 2 weep 4 ur sef nd ur after life 4 ds rubbish u js said...hw d hell can u fully understand d HOLY TRINITY wen u nd ur cohots cnt explain d perfection of nature, wen u nd ur cohots cnt explain d reason behind "the living bodies of Saints that died long ago nd av being buried 4 centuries nd millenia, yet their bodies r still as fresh as ever" ?

Anther conspiracy theory the Catholic church use to brain wash people like you. The problem with Nigeria is that there are too many gullible people not using their brain to reason and you my friend just happen to be one of them. Have you seen the body of any of those Saints with your own eyes?
People have been waiting for the second coming of your Jesus for the last 2000 years with disappointment because he is not coming. You're too lazy to study the history of your religion.

sunkoye: weeep for urself...cos a time is comming and very soon. U will long for this discussion bt u won't have the oppurtunity. May God help u

Which of the gods are you talking about?

zig2ryme04: Matthew 2:1-12: Even from Jesus' childhood, we see the Father's miraculous provision in operation. A caravan of Magi, wise men from the east, make a long journey to bring priceless gifts to the child Jesus. Researchers have estimated these gifts to be worth around $200,000,000 in modern currency.

This is absolute foolishness in reasoning and interpretation.

charlsecy4: No doubt, hotel is especially beneficial to visitors and travellers. I, myself, have experienced the usefulness of a hotel, when I arrived Owerri, on my first visit there, by 12:40am (midnight). It was a hotel that saved me that day from the killing cold and my inability to reach my final destination that night.

But, what if you were a Christian owner of a hotel, or a receptionist; and a guy and a gal came to your hotel to take a room, from all indications, to have sex, what should you do? Should you deny them entry, or let them in, knowing fully well their intentions? If you allowed them in, could you be said to be a partaker in their iniquity?

If I owe an hotel and you deny my customer a room, I will personally sack you without pay. Why not go work in a church where lots of religious hypocrites like you are found?

Bunch of confused black men/ women. Always arguing on some imported religion with no evidence to back up their claims besides some ancient book. I weep for my race.

Many black people are extremely daft and a waste of brain to the human race. The current situation is almost hopeless even among so called educated people.

magmegas: They better begin to live with the fact that A Blackman is currently the president of America for the second tenure,very soon He will amend the American constitution to allow him for a Third Term. by the way i heard that Mr Kahmil Heggel an Afghanistan-American has started a subtle campaign to be the Republican presidential candidate in the next election and from all indication, he has the nod of virtually all the delegate in the electoral college. wonders they say will never cease to happen.

The good thing is election result in America is not determined solely by the majorly white population any more. Obama won 73% of Latino-American vote and 75% of Asian-American vote. Any candidate that can get the attention of most of the minorities will surely win. The white Americans just have to understand the changing demographics in America.