₦airaland Forum

People can be funny at times.9ice has this problem of his voice being off tune.He might perform better as a traditional musician than trying to fuse hip-hop beats."Gbamu gbamu" is his best song if you understand where I'm coming from.

P Square lacks the solidity in lyrics and composition.They use sampling and street friendly beats in most of their songs but I think they are the best live performers.

Asa,Dare,Rita,Nneka and a few others are real talents but I have problem with their genre(Neo-soul) which seems foreign in origin.

Tuface has beautiful,complex and lyrical songs to his credit but his good looks has all the ladies going for him.He is the most successful but just like others,he has no signature music since reggae,hip-hop and r&b seems to be his genre.

To me J Martins is Naija's best.I think he has invented a new genre of highlife that is a signature of Nigerian music which even fits into other African countries.I see a bright future for this man if he does not deviate.He recently made a "dance" track with Cabo Snoop but still with the background highlife influence.

E be like say my praises for "Baba Iyabo" come 2 early o.Kai when will these bombings stop?

Your analysis is bullsh*t.The album is definitely gonna make Wale a superstar.I'm proud of the album.The only tracks that I skip are the saxo-filled ones 1-3.He has about 6 potential smash hits that will have the world rocking.

Congrats to Wale.Let us wait for the 1st and 2nd week sales.I do not see the album dropping sharply 2nd week like other recent albums.

We Africans can be annoying sometimes.What is wrong with tribal marks?All these butterfly and rose tatoos some of our ladies are carrying are European tatoos.What is wrong with carrying ours?

2ndly all the ethnic groups in Nigeria had tatoos including Igbos.Igbos were so quick to embrace Westernization that we lost our tatoo culture.My great grand mother had some tatoo from her neck down to her feet.

Those saying it is ugly have been influenced by the European sense of beauty.In our almost extinct sense of beauty,the tatoos were appreciated.

jason123:
No, they don't. For example, you can't tell the difference between an Akoko Edo man and an Ondo Yoruba man. The Yorubas cannot tell the difference between an Itsekiri man and a Edo man or Uhrobo. The Hausa cannot tell the difference between an Ufot and an Emeka. Its like that in Nigeria.

Likewise, the Ijaw cannot tell the difference between a Hausa man, a Yoruba, Edo muslim and an Igala man.

Sorry but I hope you do not include Rivers State because all the Yorubas are known.Infact if you go to any compound,they know every Yoruba,Edo,Igbo or Rivers people.Even the Agberos know the Yorubas amongst them.So if anything were to happen,it will be easy to distinguish Yoruba from Edo.They have different accents anyway.

ChinenyeN:
As far as I know, "ohna" simply means "the public", "the people", "the populace". No where and no time in my life did I grow up with the understanding that "ohna", as a word, is a synonym for "Igbo people" or that it means the same thing as "ndi Igbo".

Is ohna an Igbo word? Yes. Does "ohna" mean the people? Yes. But does it mean "Igbo people"? No. I doubt it, though I don't doubt that there may be some who could see sense in the idea that "ohna" means "the entire Igbo people".

It is your second paragraph that is the problem.Oha,Ohna,Ohan,Ohua,Ora,Orua all represent "the people" strictly in reference to Igbo speakers.For example you can say "Oha Ngwa" or "Oha la Eze Ngwa","Oha nu Eze Ikwerre","Oha na Eze Igbo" but "Oha na Eze Okrika" does not exist.You can't use that as reference to Okrika people.

@mbatuku1.The level of isolation of a dialect makes it less exposed to others,hence in the course of growing up,they end up knowing little about the dialect.

Frankly I went to an Ngwa/Ebonyi introduction of my friends and was surprised that they could not understand one another.I ended up being an interpreter.The thing was funny to me because I could easily understand both and wondered why they could not.

I seem more exposed to various Igbo dialects and easily understand even the ones I never heard than most Ngwas I've met.Ngwas generally seem stuck to their dialect and central Igbo.

olawalebab:
As for me Yobe, Jigawa, Ebonyi, Taraba

Its a shame that Ebonyi is the only less known Southern State.

Nassarawa

Ebonyi

Taraba

Jigawa

Yobe.

If not for Yerima's sharia and Atiku, Zamfara alongside Adamawa would have been there.

The prediction is almost coming to pass

ibibiogrl:
@jayyem    U're very right Igbo's own is cheaper compared to Akwa Ibom, also if the bride is pregnant or have children before the list is fullfilled in Akwa Ibom. The groom will pay more including a separate insult goat & gifts for that "Insult!" .

I think its the same everywhere including Rivers State

ChinenyeN:
I've never really understood this claim of "mutual intelligibility" between the Igbo speech forms. Mutual intelligibility means that the speakers involved can automatically communicate without having to learn each other's speech forms, and that isn't true for "Igbo". Honestly, I think this thing with urbanization (your Asaba-Aba & Nsukka-P.H. examples being a case-in-point), as well as 'central Igbo' and people speaking 'watered down' versions of their speech has really made people unaware of the degree of mutual unintelligibility.

You are on point.The people that actually killed the dialects were the people that standardized Igbo language.That is why an Nsukka man can understand some Ikwerre and vice-versa.They borrowed words from all Igbo dialects and created a form of Igbo mutually intelligible to everyone.It helped in fostering unity and ease in communication amongst Igbo speakers.

One of the most voiced out critic of standard Igbo is Chinua Achebe.

ChinenyeN:
ohna just means "populace" or "public", and in a larger, more political sense, "nation" or "ethnic nation" or "nation-state". In the traditional sense (also connected to the larger, more, political sense) Ohna is the institution of government. It's the actual proper name for the institution. I don't believe it has anything to do with the "entire Igbo people", since there wasn't anything like "the entire Igbo people" until Europeans showed up. Ohnaleze isa also a new thing, I believe, just like the idea of "Ohna Igbo".

You gave out the answer when you referred to it as "ethnic nation".If you observe closely,we never use the word "Oha" for Yoruba,Ijaw or Edo.We can never say Ohanaeze Yoruba or Ohaneze Efik. Think about this.

I can see hom.ose.xuality has gained grounds on nairaland hence we need a g.ay section for aloy/emeka ,onila and other ga.ys opening these kinds of disgusting thread.

I get pissed at our lack of focus as Igbos.I grew up with stories that my people migrated from Benin only to do further investigation and found out that some people crossed over the Niger from Aboh and Ukwuani who are Igbos to settle by the lake and later Aros,Isuamas,Awka and other Igbos joined them.

Igbos simply seem to have lived around the Nigeria/Cameroun border and later moved down with Yorubas,Edos and Igalas to the Niger-Benue confluence.We are the same people with Yoruba and Edo.The major reason for our deviation is a later mix of Bantu from Cross River.The light skin you find amongst Igbo is the same with Efik/Ibibio.Infact Igbo and Efik/Ibibio are almost 100% similar in physique.

Just like Ikwerres crafted very illogical Benin ancestry,so have I noticed Nri's claim of Jewish ancestry.If we follow this trend,then we will end up having no Igbo origin as all Igbos are either Benin,Jewish or Cross River origin.

chy101:
My friend shuttappp. talk about Onitsha the commercial hub of the SE with respect. Onitsha represent New York to Ibadam, akure, abeokuta and other dungeons state capitals in the SW. Even my home town Uga is far more developed and modern that Ibadan not to talk Onitsha. I wonder when you yarobas will start translating your so called education to your environment. You guys pack professors both fake and 'oluwale' all in the name of professorship but yet you guys continue to wallow in deep poverty, you guys continue to live in mud and cranky houses.

Chino11 has taken another user name.lol! Why is it that you find it so difficult to accept what is quite glaring.Onitsha has no difference with Ibadan except that there are more 4 storey buildings and it is much smaller than Ibadan in land mass.Nigerians are generally poor but we must agree that while Igbos parade less super rich,Igbos seem to have income more evenly distributed.

As per the tall building,it has to do with scarcity of land.It is an involuntary effect of over-population on Igbos.It is similar to the mass outward migration of Igbos as well.

Omenala nnem.I bu nw'owerri.Nye si ala Owerri a ri ya nma kwara li.Ejeme je gba'a cha ekere were tala ugba nuo mmii.

As a true Owerri son you should understand the above.My advice is that you people should organize your land before selling it so that Owerri will not go the way of Aba and Onitsha.And again you guys should ban construction of buildings above 3 storey.

I've written it earlier that Ebonyi is the finest State in the SE.2nd only to Cross-River if you join SS and SE.They are unbelievably very rich in solid minerals but the problem remains bad governance.Abakaliki is today a very modern and spaced out city compared with other cities across Nigeria.I have been there like 20 times in the last 5 years but yet to reach there in 2011.I normally lodged at a beautiful 6 storey hotel with functional lift owned by the former Governor Egwu.owned by the former Governor Egwu.

alj_harem:
you would miss the beloved Naija

why? are we divided

It is increasingly likely.Events are not helping matters.I'm a Zikist like Jonathan,Obj and Buhari but Nigerians hate Zikism .Tribal and religious sentiments will break us.

Anioma State will soon be created and the 3i's with the big U will continue their power play.

Another issue that I am yet to come to terms is the scanty or lack of Nri settlements in Southern Igboland.Nri is not as influential in Southern Igbo as it is in Anambra,Enugu and Delta.

I sometimes seem to think that Southern Igbos might have come from a more Southernly direction while the Northern Igbos are of Nri stock.They might have merged at Isuama and created Igbo as we know it today.The Isu might even be more of an influential group in the South.For example Ikwerres call every Igbo speaker north of them "Nwisoama" which literally means "son of Isu".

Only Ibuzo is an Isu settlement I have heard of in Delta-Igbo.I will like to know if their dialect is significantly different from other Anioma like Owerri is from Onitsha or Orlu from Awka.Do they call land Ala,Ali,Ana or Ani?

@tpia.Read this link.I opened up a thread on it but I just discovered that it was deleted.I think there is conspiracy to cover up some truth on nairaland.http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/features/2357-a-yoruba-enclave-in-the-heart-of-igboland-story-of-ugbodu-others-in-delta-state.

Read it before they will delete.

Revisited

@odumchi.I am not from Arochukwu but you can enquire from your fellow Aros on your history or visit Aro facebook page or website.I never implied that Aros are Ibibios but only wrote what I read that the three groups played major role in the founding of Arochukwu.

It is difficult if possible to get a pure breed of any ethnicity.

This is from your www.ndiowa.com foolish man.Now go and hug transformer.


             The first version and by far the most popular states that Ndi Owa are of Nri origin, i.e. from Awka in Anambra State. According to Onwuejeogwu (1970) and based on linguistic, archeological and genealogical data, the migratory movement started at about 900 A.D. and continued till early 20th century. This migratory flow led to the establishment of towns and villages to the west of the Niger. But more importantly, immigrants from Nri, between the 12th and 13th centuries settled at Ute-Okpu under the leadership of Ijueh, who thus established the dynasty of rulers of Ute-Okpu. It was therefore from Ute-Okpu that Odogwu later established the Owa dynasty


http://www.ndi-owa.com/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66:origin-of-owa&catid=4:owa&Itemid=9

@agbotaen, we have passed this stage and you have been disgraced out and yet you keep coming here to digrace yourself,the Ika and the entire Igbo.

The name of your website (ndi)owa.com is already passing a message of (ndi)igbo.com.

Obi of Owa has made it very clear that he is an Nri man by lineage and your kingship is based on Nri and not Bini.You rather got influenced by Bini.

It is safe for you to choose not to be Igbo but stop talking on behalf of those greater than you(Obi Efeizomor has claimed Igbo).He is the custodian of your culture and hence has more knowledge than you Solomon.Your father is not happy with you at all.

For the newbies on NL ,Ndu chucks is not an Igboman but a Fulani that took up Igbo sounding name.


I am proud of being an Imolite that is civilized in our actions.It is for the interest of our Igbo brothers in the North that no action has been taken.I advice them to abandon all those worthless investments and come back home because hell will soon be let loose.

@ubani. A true Ngwa son ChinenyeN has given an account of Ngwa history as written and told which is exactly same as yours but more comprehensive.Thank you for your contribution.

Negro_Ntns:
Wey ogbuefi and Abagworo?

I'm here to give an emergency notification to my fellow Southerners living in Abuja,Kaduna,Sokoto,Kano,Jos,Maiduguri and other parts of the North to come back home or at least to relocate to any part of South.Nigeria is on the verge of bloody war.Forget all those your worthless investments and come back home alive.

i whole heartedly supported Buhari(a Fulani) during the elections and I also wish Nigeria to survive but Nigeria seems to be sitting on a time bomb.I predict a new country coming out from the SE/SS axis soon.

All these can be avoidable if an SNE is held and the country re-arranged for the good of us all.God bless Nigeria.

lol@ my ignorance.Where da hell is my sense of humor ?Thanks Exotic for your moment of comic relief.Meet ya @ d jokes session.