₦airaland Forum

osuulola:
You're saying Christianity and saying courts at the same time. That's antithetical! They don't run the same system.

There is a place in the Bible that says cast the wicked man out or something close. The man was said to have committed some sexual sin too oh!

You're not making any sense, you know how many allegations were made against Jesus himself, if you were alive during those times, you would have been one of the people that crucified him.

Godbless3:
In as much as i was and still against the act of the governor, let me use this opportunity to lend a voice out.
Ladies, if you found urself in abusive relationship, just kindly take it to human right organisation to help or look 4 a human right lawyer to handle your matter.
Pastors and elders only care about what was wrongly written for another generation.
Taking your problem to social media only shows you're doing it for attention that comes with it or for a reason best known to you.
She is a medical doctor meaning she gone via educational stage so she suppose to know where to press a button and not social media.
I hope she won't come out again to cry o.

What will a human rights lawyer in Nigeria, someone that is still hungry do? Worse comes to worst, they will land the man in jail right? Does this solve the problem that most women are still over reliant on their husband for survival? This case is different because the woman is a doctor but for many women suffering domestic violence the solution is not very simple.

Until human rights organizations or government can guarantee this women a secure form of livelihood after leaving their husband, these women would prefer to die at home than to LEAVE! As a nation, we have to start tackling the root cause instead of the symptoms, we have to support these humanitarians and NGOs as well because even if they have the resources for one or 10 people, can they handle the thousands of cases in 9ja?

SocialJustice:
This is the Internet, you can always tell lies to save face. It changes nothing.

The likes of you are not worth lying to, you're a nobody. It's 10AM over here and I just got to the office, I'll use the rest of my day mingling with sane people!

SocialJustice:
I was waiting for you to confirm my suspicion that you're from a dysfunctional family.

Have a nice day.

Oh a dysfuntional family is one with parents married for over 38 years, with siblings respecting one another and younger one respecting the elder sibling even tho the age difference is just 2-3 years? Pray that in your life you enjoy such dysfunction.....PEACE!

SocialJustice:
He's their elder brother and immediate closest family member. It is his duty to keep the family together since their parents are no more.

There are some things common sense should dictate I do not need to be a family member to see how Jude has failed in his role as the Okoye family head.

You're full of sh*t! Duty? If a junior one disrespects or continues to disrespect me as an elder, it is not my duty to apologize to him or her, it is not my duty to bring him or her closer, your mentality is whack! It is the reason many youths today lack manners and proper training, all in the name of keeping family together, elder must call monkey, uncle? In Yorubaland elder never apologizes to junior ones, it's a taboo but since they are SE or SS, I guess rubbish is allowed.

blueAgent:
They should stop committing more crime that will lessen there encounters with the Police.

Poor child, you honestly believe blacks commit more crimes....Blacks are locked up more because they are heavily policed and can't afford a good lawyer! If you want to talk about overall crime then you must include mass shootings, embezzlement, bribery, incest, meth and other drugs. You must include insider trading and tax evasion. When you add all these, ONLY A FOOL LIKE YOU WOULD BELIEVE BLACKS COMMIT MORE CRIMES


Damn kid, you are so out of touch with reality, ask yourselves who dominates the mafias, the MS-13 gangs? Is it blacks? Who shot up schools, movie theaters and churches? Was it blacks? How about 18th street gangs, YOU KNOW THE LARGEST GANG IN THE USA? Oponu like you believe you're an expert just by looking for few articles on Google, your IQ is so low it is an insult to me to continue this discourse so DON'T BOTHER REPLYING....I'M DONE WITH YA....ARGUE WITH YOUR PHONE!

SocialJustice:
You're not a family member, stop acting like you belong in it.

Neither are you but you already crucified Jude as if he stole your meat

blueAgent:
Are you running away?

You are still far from anything close to sense.


https://innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/

https://www.edelmanpclaw.com/wrongful-conviction/5-known-causes-of-wrongful-convictions/


https://exonerate.org/causes-wrongful-convictions/


Those links I posted up there shows that racism is not the reason for wrongful convictions.

As seen on the table

Demographics of the 375:
225 (60%) African American
117 (31%) Caucasian
29 (8%) Latinx
2 (1%) Asian American
1 (<1%) Native American
1 (<1%) Self-identified “Other”

Is not something that happens exclusively to blacks.

But Whites are also wrongfully convicted, only naive people like you make it out to be because of race.

I already told you no need to argue any longer, get your brain checked and you'll be fine! Even by your statistics we can see the danger:

Demographics of the 375:
225 (60%) African American Blacks represents 14% of the population yet 60% of wrongful conviction happened to be blacks? Yet you say the system works perfectly?
117 (31%) Caucasian Caucasians represents about 60% of the population yet only 31% of wrongful conviction, what a wonderful system!
29 (8%) Latinx
2 (1%) Asian American
1 (<1%) Native American
1 (<1%) Self-identified “Other”


Whether you call it racism, whether you call it social justice errors or just plain bias, the fact remains more blacks are wrongfully convicted than any other group, the fact remains a black man is likely to be shot when police is called than a white man. The fact reamains, racism exists and to deny this is to deny your very own existence!

SocialJustice:
All of this is on Jude for failing to keep this family united. Dude is a selfish walking failure.

Yea so he should bow to a disrespectful younger brother because of what exactly? These are grown men with bastaard money, of course it would be hard to keep one or two from going astray.

blueAgent:
You keeping proving yourself as been Naive.

[s]No victim who was robbed,rapped or killed by a white or Asian man would just wakeup and claim that it was done by a black man[/s], what will the victim gain by punishing an innocent man while letting the true suspect go free?

The fact that the wrong black person was arrested does not negate the fact that the crime was done by a black person as described by the victim and eye witnesses.

[s]I have seen countless cases of Whites who spent years in prison for a crime committed by a black only to be exonerated years later[/s].
One invouled a white woman dating an Ex black NFL player.

stop making out every thing to be about racism.

Research has shown that blacks are incerated at lower rate than they deserve.

No victim purposefully identified a black man as the culprit? Well I guess Ronnie just had bad luck!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/us/ronnie-long-nc-wrongful-conviction-trnd/index.html

Your brain has a hole in it, that is the only reasonable explanation for your ignorant assertions. You have seen countless whites serving years in prison for crimes committed by blacks? Please name 10? You said countless so I am assuming the stat is more than 100. Name just 10, if you can't then you're full of sh*t!

Research has shown that blacks are incacerated less than they deserve? YEA I SHOULD END THIS DISCUSSION HERE, IT IS OBVIOUS I AM CHATTING WITH A MENTAL PATIENT!

blueAgent:
You keep parroting liberal lies without facts.

I deal with facts not feelings and sentiments.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=174599

ODE....You deal with facts yet the opening abstract from the link you provided confirms my statement:

The criminal justice system has clearly been biased against blacks in the past, but recent evidence on such bias is far less conclusive.

So what part of men from the 1980s serving 10, 20, even 30 years in jail for crimes they didn't commit don't you understand, ignoramus!

The problem is bigger than just fat or chubbiness, the root cause is that she still has fuks to give. When you care about what people say or think, you'll only end up giving yourself hypertension. The same people that calls her fat will still go on her timeline and participate in giveaways. Same poeple would die to be in a movie set with her.

This life no balance, everybody has his or her own blemish, if Covid 19 hasn't shown you that fat, thin, short, tall, wealthy or poor don't matter to death then I guess nothing will. Just live your life the best way that you can and block whomever needs to be blocked both in real life and social media!

These idiots still don't know the game Buhari is playing, even if the Constitution gives you the right to summon the president, WHAT WILL YOU BLOODY DO WHEN HE REFUSES? Impeach him? LMAO....You don't have the votes! Go to the Judiciary? LEEMAO.....He controls the judiciary as well. This is MFking Game of Thrones....The National Assembly is Jammie Lannister, oga keep quiet when Jon Buhari Snow is talking

The funny thing here is that just when you think it is over for this man, he rises like a phoenix and shouts, "ANOTHER ONE" . We have had Awolowo, Adedibu, MKO, Obasanjo but nobody with the sheer determination like Jagaban....This man is always calculating, permutating and correlating, let's not be surprised that before June next year, he'll announce his support for a candidate we least expected

blueAgent:
Is obvious you are an Illiterate coupled with low IQ.

In your dumb mind those Blacks would have been freed becos they were black, even when they matched the victims description?

So the ones that were later exonerated because DNA evidence proved someone else did it, what do you have to say about those? The men that served 10, 15, 20, 30 years in jail for a crime they didn't commit all because of their skin color, what do you have to say to them and a mistaken witness. You're a f*cking disgrace! You read books at 6 and age 8 but you obviously didn't apply what you learned into intellectual capacity. You are welcomed to compare qualifications and IQ but your comments on Nairaland already gave you away as an empty drum!

blueAgent:
You are confused, what people does black men in Prison was not their skin colour.
Stop confusing racism and false witness.

You're a dumbass, a simple 2 hour search on Google will expose many cases like this, stop drinking the cool aide and enlighten yourself! We have many black men convicted of rape from the 1980s because even tho there were no DNA evidence, the victim description fit the suspect, black man, tall, scary and familiar with the area. No DNA evidence, nothing! About 10 of them were freed within the last 4 years based on wrongful conviction but your black ass will sit in 9ja and spew rubbish.....Well done sir!

blueAgent:
Cut the crap short.

They are traumatized for been descendants of slaves.
Who sold them to the whites in the first place?

Let me ask you why Haiti killed all the whites and barred whites from owning lands in Haiti, but the irony is that Haiti is a 3rd if not 4th World country, shithole. it citizens are running to white countries they claim traumatized them.

Where did this one come from? Haiti killed all the whites but they were basically lowballed by the UN and Swiss Banks as punishment, read boy read! Educate yourself instead of coming with some bullshit rhetoric. They were denied humanitarian reliefs and left to fend for themselves without viable trade routes. What did you think would happen when a bunch of people who have been denied their rights and history suddenly gain freedom without proper guidance or resources? It's just like what's happening in Zimbabwe, they got rid of the snake but the effects of the venom will hurt for generations to come.

Activist001:
Bro, slavery is long gone for fück sake. Leave that shit alone and move on. No one owns black slaves in the US again and slavery is now a crime GLOBALLY.

If you're gonna blame the current generation of whites for the slaves their ancestors owned, you might as well blame the current generation of Africans for the slaves our ancestors sold to the whites right?

Obama, a black president ruled the most powerful nation in the world for 8 solid years, black people have being to space, they are some of the biggest achievers in the US + many other numerous achievements and blacks are still having the trauma of slavery? Füvk that!

If the history behind it is so bad, then why do blacks call themselves these words? I mean, you can't completely rewrite another man's language to suit your feelings.

Black means negro, nigger and stuff like that in other languages. Is it wrong to call a black guy "black"? If it is whether in a professional or causal environment, then we should also ask ourselves to stop calling the whites "whites".

You're not making any sense! It's like arguing with a child, let me burst your brain, majority of blacks do not call one another niggas. The ones using the word are those lower classed wannabee gangstas. Just like majority of blacks would never sit in a workplace and refer to their coworker or boss as white guy or girl.

You mentioned slavery ended yet a black man was killed in georgia just for jogging, another was killed for looking suspicious. Slavery ended but the reminders are ever present, everything from walking into a bank to deposit a big check and the white cashier calliung the cops on you to walking into a luxury store and someone automatically starts following you around because they think you came to steal.

I'm not going to entertain your strawman theory any longer, this topic here is about degradation using skin color in a professional capacity and you referring to gangsta/gutter language to make your point is very myopic! You're right, negro means black but I dare you to go to an interview or a contract meeting and address them there as black man or black woman. I dare you to open a business and refer to your customers as black man or black woman. Let's see how well you would succeed, after all black is just a color . Your attempt to justify people disrespecting you because they see you as basically a skin color instead of using your proper title or name is disgusting and I pray you make it big in life to a position where you realize you do not deserve to be degraded in such a way regardless of what your fellow African/African American does!

Activist001:
In a professional setting, I don't accept it.

Look, in an ideal world, I don't support refering to anyone by their skin colour but we don't live in ideal world.

Black people refer to white people as "white people" all the time (same way I'm doing now), but when a white person refers to a black dude as "black", it becomes an offence? Why?

And please don't tell me you don't know this happens unless you live in some sort of fantasy made up world. It's a FACT that people of both sides sterotype based on skin colour!

These days, blacks are even turning to become the opposite of what they've been fighting for decades - racists - especially in America.

The video below is an evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZ2XoaBO2A

Once again you're removing the conditions, most times it occurs on a professional capacity or a workplace but let me entertain you a little. Why do blacks get upset when the focus is on their skin color instead of other attributes? Could it be the 400 years of slavery? Could it be that even after slavery, for another 100 years the word black, nigger was continuously used as a derogative? Could it be that up until 1970s, blacks were restricted to lower income jobs and marginalized based on their skin color? If you don't understand the history behind something, you will never see the significance.

I'll give you a simple analogy, you were molested, raped, tortured by people from another tribe. 20 years later, you moved to a neighborhood dominated by people of that tribe and you hear your neighbors jokingly saying if your kids don't stop running around, they'll tie your whole family up and torture them. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Would you be upset? Worried? Nervous or will you just dismiss it as a joke?

Yes black folks do call white people names but majority of black folks will never ever dare do it on a job or in a professional capacity, majority of these white folks do not have the same historical context to know the trauma behind racial based degrading.

Grandmeister:
No I didn't..I merely showed the unrealistic ideology that you were championing on this thread..I showed you the error in thinking that identifying someone by his skin color or race which is God given is not and can never be a bad thing! But mocking or treating someone differently for looking different is...If you can't see this simple fact then you my friend need to work on your sensitivity to issues.

More than 2000 black men languishing in prison due to circumstantial evidence like sin color DISAGREES with you! I know it is hard to imagine with your limited view of the world but even as black man, if you stood in front of me and yelled black man how are you? I would either shun you or put you in your place right away!

If one of my employees called another person by their skin color, I would give that worker a disciplinary caution or fire him or her immediately. The average fine for raical abuse /discrimination in a US workplace is over 1 million dollars, we don't joke with issues like this. So save me your ill formed ideology and focus on enlightening yourself about global views!

Activist001:
Black people call white people "white" all the time especially when they don't know the person. Is that racism too?

In a professional setting? You mean a coworker or a boss can call someone by their skin color. E.g. Come here white bog, come here black girl. Black girl why are you late? etc. You people are funny! I have seen companies sued for much less

kendrick93:
There is nothing racist about saying 'give it to the black fella' ...
Unless there are other things that happened that hasn't been reported but if that's all the official said,
No wrong doing imo

Yea and there's nothing wrong in me calling you 'boy' even when you're fully grown, have your own money and title. No wonder the Northerners enjoy ruling over us, brain ti yoro!

Grandmeister:
You're living in an utopian dream land! So if a black man committed a crime and I was asked to come and make a report..I will just say he is tall,slim with a bent knee? When there are many whites that also fit into that description? My goodness you guys are really sensitive!

Okay you've delibrately ignored what I wrote so there's no need for further discourse. Ignorance is bliss....Enjoy!

Grandmeister:
If I want to refer or asked to identify a white man in a predominantly non white environment I will call him a white man! It doesn't make me a racist for fvck sake! People are called by the police to help identify a victim or a criminal and most times you're asked if the person you witnessed was black, white, brown etc...what an annoyingly sensitive generation!

Then my friend, you would be quickly rebuffed or ignored! You're only talking like this because you've never actually had the opportunity to meet many white people especially those that are well to do, they do not tolerate the nonsense you're used to. Furthermore, the example you used highlights the exact danger of using a person color as main identification. Police asked you to identify a suspect and you shout black man black man, so they looked at the nearest black man at the scene and arrested him not knowing 2 other black men used the back entrance and one of them committed the act......This is an example of racial profiling and it has resulted in many black men rotting in prison for crimes they did not commit. Once again your ignorance is outstanding!

Grandmeister:
Quit this over reaction and emotional sensitivity to every thing! Do you know what racism is? Referring to someone based on his skin color or race is NOT racism, treating the person differently because of his skin or race IS racism..Many of you guys have become so ducked up in this shyt that you can't even tell what racism is anymore dammit!

Another ignorant point, it is not just calling the person by skin color but the underlying meaning behind it. If a person is not important to you, you call them names like boy, girl, you, pikin etc. If a person is important to you or at least deserves your respect, you use their title or name.

Let me give you a brief history lesson on racism, whenever slave masters wanted to call a male slave they would use the term, 'boy'. Even a grown adult male is called boy so as to let the slave know that he will never amount to anything more. Now why do blcks get upset when called nigger? It is simple, it is the same as being called boy. LEt's remove the skin color, if you see a full grown white man in your presence, would you refer to the white man as WHITE? Calling human beings by generalized names especially one based on skin color is UNCALLED FOR, especially someone that deserves respect!

Grandmeister:
I can bet that if your office was dominated by blacks they will...

I am black, I am the manager, I have 10 people on my team, 7 blacks, 3 whites. Oga talk another one, you don fail for this one

HitlerGaddafi:
If a black guy says "that white guy". Will anybody take offence?

I can see you're daft. Blacks are just using racism to cover-up for their failures .

I work with whites on a daily basis and I can tell you no black guy in the office would openly call a white colleague or boss, "WHITE GUY", once again your ignorance is outstanding!

HitlerGaddafi:
.see black people are over reactive. The ref simply asked his assistant who should be carded and he respond by "that black guy". (In his language). Pls what's the offence? Black people we too carry this racism for head like gala

You sound ignorant! Players have names and each official is expected to know the players name or numbers not call them by their color. Imagine police raided your office in a foreign land and they shouted we are looking for criminal, yes the black guy, I'm sure you would be very upset

dazzlingd:
Black man calls black man nigger and it's okay..
White man calls black man nigger and everyone screams for his head.
This is injustice against the white man.

Just like when your siblings or friends call you fool or stupid, you would react more positively than when a total stranger or someone you do not know suddenly starts calling you fooolish boy or stupid boy!

Redcrafton:
Pic 1 First class citizen - Oshogbo

Pic 2. Third class citizen - sh*ty Aba

Now which one looks like hell

Werey dey disguise! How long did it take you to find that photo, let me help you out with your reality, so that you can wake up from your delusions

jneutron4000:
[s][/s]hahaha ass licker, he empowered lot of his people, ass licker he attracted lots of development to his people, Lagos -Ibadan railway done and dusted, Lagos-Abeokuta railway done and dusted and many other projects. Nyamiri, you that is not licking Fulanis ass, why are you crying up and down second class citizen

Who dash dem second class, third class citizens is more like it

The disrespect occurs because your parents/guardians did not set the necessary boundary and you might have traded your elder status for cheap things. Does your brother know your dirty secrets? Have you sold your integrity in his presence? 9 years is a lot of distance, not even a drug addict would ignore such distance in age except you've given the impression that both of you are age mates.

You are 26, stop looking for respect and start earning it, avoid the mofo! Spend as little time at home as possible, keep busy, use this time to learn a trade or improve your skill set. YOU DO NOT WANT THAT MOFO TO MAKE MONEY BEFORE YOU, it will get very dangerous for you especially if your parents are the type to only recognize stomach infrastructure