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TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa 5 (the Official Thread) Is Here! by Akainzo(m): 5:56pm On Sep 16, 2010
Rheinmetal:
However Lerato has a sizeable portion of the blame, and must dance to whatever tune Hanny is made to face on account of their 'brawl'. I always refrain from being unduly 'legalistic' about supposed 'crimes of "passion" Every strand of evidence must be considered in isolation of the other to make a sum of the facts. As reprehensible as Hanny's reaction is, and should not be condoned. There are mitigating factors in his favour. Even a crime as odious as murder has its mitigating factors. Facts would take on a diiferent hue if Hanny was to stride across the length of the room to wack Lerato cos of her running mouth. In the circumstance Hanny could even plead that he was under a reasonable suspicion that he was under a danger of suffering bodily harm and reacted in self defence. The girl was drunk and had a glass and a bottle in both hands, while mouthing off right nose to nose. But then who's fooling who?

The babe taunted him and the dude cracked. Guys should not hit women no matter the degree of provocation period. But if Biggie is to swing the sledge hammer, then the two should leave the show. Afterall Rule 15 covers verbal 'violence' too!
Rheinmetal, I totally disagree with the bolded part above. If you watch that video, not once did Lerato raise that wine or glass in any threatening position. Rather she kept trying to balance the glass of wine in her hand and this contributed to her falling down.
Also, during there chest to chest face off, not one drop of wine fell from those glasses as they were kept in natural positions, thus such a statement/defense by Hanni would only show him as not being contrite but knowingly pushing/hitting Lerato.

You cannot give the same punishment to the villain as well as the victim, that is not the essence of justice. Or is it?
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa 5 (the Official Thread) Is Here! by Akainzo(m): 2:37pm On Sep 15, 2010
lindabon:
Lerato; because u can press charges on assault doesn't mean u should challege a man anytime u like sha. who knows, one day u might not make it out of a face off alive, then tell me how your dead body can press charges.because a "man should  not hit a woman" is not the reason why u should take advantage. u can always attack them from a distance, not pushing your face towards theirs to see what they can do. that might just lure them into showing you what they can really do. not evry guy is like yacob. finally sha, take heart. na so the world be. sh** happens. hope your wounds and bruises both emotional&physical heal soonest
I should advice you to always stay away from men once you wear those short skirts or figure hugging dresses as that might provoke them to rape you.  grin Or better still, to prevent it, always wear an Hijab so that the weak men would not attack you. Just to share the same advice for lerato with you. grin grin grin


lindabon:
Hannington; notin to say sha. i just pity your gf, wife and female children. really, i feel sorry for you. Apology ke apology ni. get out from my way jor!

Code; if anyone should be going home for yesterdays acts, it has to be YOU and of cos hannington the she-goat

Paloma; all these your hypo, God will punish u one day.

Tatiana; errrrr,  thanks for comforting lerato? ? ? ?

Shiela; what can i say, well done sista. na u b beta person.
Seems you need also some dose of anti-hypocrite drugs as well. So Code should be punished for Hanny getting to hit Lerato? shocked shocked shocked What would have happened if Hanny hit Code and he decides to retaliate?? Or you think most men can handle being held or hit by a fellow man?
BTW, what did Hanny do when Yacob was in that same situation with Lerato and Shiela? Did he try to get Yacob to cool down? Bottom line, Yacon held his own, Hanny lost his!
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa 5 (the Official Thread) Is Here! by Akainzo(m): 11:21pm On Sep 14, 2010
[quote author=1,2 link=topic=467188.msg6754744#msg6754744 date=1284502464]Now CODE needs attention, he is angry with Shiela, shilea just told him straight that he could not do any thing. The guy just seated there like a statue, now he needs an apology from Shiela for accusing him. If Hannington is leaving, so should CODE.[/quote]And what would be his offense? Standing while two adults were quarreling and a violent man lost his temper? huh
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa 5 (the Official Thread) Is Here! by Akainzo(m): 11:18pm On Sep 14, 2010
Hmmmm, what a funny circle of things!  grin grin grin grin grin

When Yacob was on the receiving end of things from the ladies, Hannington stood and watched and he justified it that he didn't want o get involved so as not to look bad.

Why then should Code have gotten involved with Hannington's misbehaviour? What if Hannington had turned violent on him, would he have been justified to defend himself? BTW, it is possible Code didn't believe Hannington would actually hit the lady, he could have been thinking "Hell, this guy is smarter than that!"

Hannington had no right to hit a woman, he should carry his own can.
FamilyRe: Men How Do You Feel When You Hear "it's A Girl"? by Akainzo(m): 11:01am On Sep 14, 2010
tpiah:
gosh, i cant believe the amount of ignorance on this thread.

o ma se o. 


so it's children now that are the reasons for divorce, not anybody's deeds or misdeeds. I just gave the example of mel gibson, which you chose to ignore.

[s]some of you shouldnt be surprised when your women turn to juju to hold you. Obviously, you leave them no other choice. undecided Many of you end up with ogbontiras like yourselves anyway.[/s]

so, all the divorces you know of, are solely from families with girls. undecided

it's very annoying the way most black and nigerian guys just jump at any thread denigrating women. No be woman born una? huh If they tell you to slow your roll on the bosom gazing circuit and tata loving, una go say it cant be done. See all your lives now? huh
@Tpiah, obviously, you are not reading and comprehending. The write-up by OP and my take were that the sex of the child(ren) could affect the possibility of divorce NOT that it is the ONLY determinant of divorce! Is that too hard for you to understand.?

So because Mel Gibson, Obama or Bush has daughters and are still married has now meant all marriages with daughters only are ALL still surviving? Or that you can point at ten honest mechanics means ALL mechanics are honest?

The research only says the chances of having a divorce increases by 5% when there is no male child involved. That is the simple outcome of the research, do find a way to comprehend that.
FamilyRe: Men How Do You Feel When You Hear "it's A Girl"? by Akainzo(m): 10:05pm On Sep 13, 2010
I wonder why all the 'wahala' about this research? The outcome said it increases by 5%!

What this means is that 90% of the time, it doesn't matter. Is that too hard to understand?
Would you guys have quarreled at a research that says alcohols drinking increases the chance of having an accident by 5% by quoting all your buddies that have been drunk yet successfully drove home?

Abeg, lets learn to understand the essence and basis of research and the meaning of its outcome rather than emotional feelings.

BTW, how many times have you heard of a man leave a woman for having too many boys?
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa 5 (the Official Thread) Is Here! by Akainzo(m): 3:47pm On Sep 13, 2010
dominique:
Lets be fair with ourselves, its not about naija winning twice but Uti is not deserving of the money, his attitude is a total put off. i wish we can come together and rally around hanny or jennifer in the finals. Lets not make this a one-sided show.
I don't understand what you mean by Uti doesn't deserve the money? What was he supposed to be in the BB House to do, to play Jesus Christ? Even the Pharisees and Sadducees of that time didn't find or think Jesus Christ was worthy of the glory. The guy was brought in for entertainment and he had surely delivered on that - whenever the guy is MIA the House is a dead bore but once he is up and about, everyone is glued to his set.

So he has a bad mouth, that is his own way of dealing with the pressure in the house.

For me, Hanny is a no-no as much as Munya, I aint contributing towards rewarding a time spent playing with ladies and getting a feel up.
Jen: Cherise copy-cat time has passed, gal aint got too much than a beauty.

I will go for Uti any day. The bad bellus or seeming fact that he can't win is an assumption that should be jettisoned. Who says a Naija boy cant win twice. Who amongst you would accept not to be the Top graduate in his/her class simply because  his/her brother was the top gun the previous year? Would you?

The Naija boy has been composed and has used yabis as his own self defense mechanism. His other qualities are not wasted or naught just because of one flaw.
PoliticsRe: Efcc To Bar Corrupt Politicians From Contesting ! by Akainzo(m): 1:24pm On Aug 27, 2010
This is another sensational story, trying to play to the gallery as EFCC is fond of doing.

The courts have shown in 2003, using the Atiku case, to clearly state that EFCC does NOT have the power to prevent/declare anyone unfit from political office without a court declaration. This is another plan to do an [i]"Atiku" [/i]on someone that is running against the President. I'm not surprised sha, as OBJ is one of the government advisers.
PoliticsRe: Why Bankole Disembarked from BA Flight by Akainzo(m): 3:32pm On Aug 14, 2010
Truly, the inter-government diplomatic rules state that the Speakers of sovereign countries are exempted from searches, but it is only when they are on official assignments.

Reading the accounts of the situation as stated by the Speaker's press secretary, I can deduce or postulate this:
1. Bankole was NOT on official assignment.
2. As standard in Naija, it was the aide that was carrying the bags to the aircraft.
3. The BA official demanded to search the bags being carried by the aide.
4. Bankole then stepped in to say the bags are his!

Unfortunately by the letters of the law, once the bags were carried by the aide to the aircraft, they MUST be searched as the aide has no diplomatic cover.

The mistake most Nigerian officials make, is that they assume that the usual Nigerian practice of the big Oga's boy also being covered by the Oga's aura is acceptable in the developed countries. That is a huge mistake!

Therefore the aisde not being covered cannot be exempted from being searched.
SportsRe: N1.4bn Scandal: Efcc Discovers $6m, N144m In Nff’s Accounts by Akainzo(m): 3:47pm On Jul 27, 2010
Fellow Nigerians, when are we going to stop falling for cheap publicity and noise making in this country? When??

When has it now become a crime worthy of sensationalism that you have found NFF's money in NFF's account? Was the money supposed to have been kept in NSC or EFCC's account?
Maybe what they are indirectly saying is they were surprised that NFF had money as the thought all the money had been stolen, so EFCC was shocked to still see that there was still money! Or what can I make of this?

Soon, it would be news that crude oil was found at Warri refinery! grin grin grin
SportsRe: Nff Appoints Samson Siasia As New Super Eagles! by Akainzo(m): 4:26pm On Jul 26, 2010
@Okija,

I guess all the teams that left at the group stages at the tournaments that Siasia won Silver were all blacks? grin

And come to think of it, how many Gold did Bonfrere Jo win at the Nations cup for us? Or Vogts or Bora or even Lagerback? Start reasoning objectively and get to have a belief in people rather than the colour of their skins.
RomanceRe: Blackberry Palava: Babes N Stupidity by Akainzo(m): 5:25pm On Jul 25, 2010
Much as I don't support the BB craze, but I am astonished that you guys haven't seen the economics of it all. I am amazed actually!

Let me give you this scenarios:

Babe 1: Nokia n97, N9500 voice calls, N1600 text messages, N3500 data calls = 14,600/month

Babe 2: SE X1, 8000 voice calls, 1500 text messages, 3500 data calls = 13,100/month

Babe 3: BB Bold 2: 5000 subscription, 1500 voice call, 0.00 text message, 0.00 data calls = 6,500/month

Meaning the more friends a lady has on the BB, the less she can actually spend at the end of the month as almost all the other services are free or negligible.

Why is it a major thing in Nigeria, because of the cost of the traditional services. For our US and UK friends, they get Text messaging almost free, have free voice minutes and loads of extras that make the BB unattractive except for business purposes.

And don't forget, they had to make a special $50K BB for Obama as he couldn't live without his own.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs USA: 4 - 2! @ Women's U-20 World Cup by Akainzo(m): 4:24pm On Jul 25, 2010
detruth:
Welcome Mr. Professor! Ashamed to hear that internet usage has also derailed your sense of morals! You are even free to call your parents names, after all it's a world of freedom of speech. I wonder which day you saw citizens of developed countries with their much knowledge of democracy speaking foul languages like that. Only God knows which kind of youth we are raising nowadays!
Obviously you were too young to have access to the internet or maybe cable TV in the times of the Monicka Lewinsky or the G.W. Bush era, you would have learnt a few things about what developed countries say about their leaders. Being a president does not remove him from doing things that can be considered foolish. If you want to live in ancient times, please log off the internet and go drink palm wine under your village tree.

detruth:
My friend this is no Church, this Nairaland! Did you learn/know anything about "register" at all in your secondary school? There are words associated with different places. If you doubt this, try and call a common mobile police a "fool" and see how he will give you a "offering"! Shameless!!! I wonder where you live!
ROTFLMAO, so you equate registration with censorship in a forum? You must be a joker. And your analogy of police officer shows a clear indication of your mentality. Where I come from a policeman has no right to slap you for calling him foolish, he might be angry but has no right to assault you.
PoliticsRe: How Governors Rig Elections, By Donald Duke by Akainzo(m): 3:33pm On Jul 25, 2010
While I support the use of technology, let us not miss out on the MOST important thing to learn from this expose - GO OUT AND VOTE!

If every registered voter actually goes out to vote on election day, then we would truly be on the way to credible, free and fair elections.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: The End Of Hitv - Multichoice/dstv Wins Back Epl Coverage Rights In Nigeria by Akainzo(m): 3:00pm On Jul 25, 2010
To me, HiTV had a faulty business plan.

1. Their model was based on EPL being the main thing Nigerians wanted on cable or DTH, very bad assumption! And forgot to develop other contents.
Imagine trying to get 2,500 from CTL for showing EPL matches when the subscription to that cable is 3,500!

2. They were burning bridges rather than partnering.
They chased and harassed viewing centres and other cable providers. Even their CMTV deal eventually hit the rocks! They wanted to be the ONLY  player rather than the 'biggest' player. If they had shared and entered into partnerships, who knows what would have happened.

3. They relied on the Nigerian business environment, where deadlines are not enforced. The FA gave them an ultimatum, they failed to meet the deadline set. Simple. They knew about the deadlines for over a month. One wonders why they were shopping for foreign backers when they couldn't even get the local banks for back them up.

toskom:
This is pure criminality on HITV. Only two weeks to the start of EPL. this is totally unfair. let me put the real issue in perspective so that we all have a full view of what happened. HITV won the EPL right, it had paid part of the money and was expected to pay the remaining on installment. The problem is not MONEY. In terms of payment HITV was intact. THIS IS BACKAYARD POLITICS. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. If Nigerian do no arise such thing, ONE DAY WE WILL WAKE UP IN NIGERIA TO DISCOVER THAT NIGERIAN'S COMPANIES ARE GOING DOWN. if the right was to have been taken from them they should have been informed long time not at this hour when they have acquire so much equipment and spend billions of money that this EPL people stabbed them at the back.

The problem i heard was that a guarantor was expected to be provided and the bank who was to be their grurantor had written to them on when the necessary papers will be forwarded to them. when all of a suddenly this capital flight company called DSTV went behind the back to make a dirty arrangement. i know of thousand of young guys who benefitted so much from HITV. if not for Hitv the kind of competition will have in this country will never be. the death of HITV WILL DEFINITELY THE ERA OF IMMENSE EXPLOITATION OF THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE. THIS IS FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD,FRAUD, AND FRAUD. WE MUST EXPRESS OUR PROTEST. I KNOW SO MANY OF MINE FRIENDS WHO STARTED TO MAKE LIFE AS A RESULT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF HITV. THOUSAND OF THEM ARE WEEPING RIGHT NOW. THEY SAID THEY WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH DSTV.
@Toskom, do not get deceived, HiTV only paid for 1 season as was required, the other two seasons they had a right of first refusal at the reserved price. HiTV failed to pay or provide a guarantee that they would pay. Don't allow your Nigerian mentality to affect how you analyze businesses. Businesses thrive when they have money or guarantees that money would come in. The FA aint no father Christmas you know.

Would you tell JAMB that you didn't meet the deadline for submission because your parents wrote you to know when money would be credited to your account which just happens to be the Monday after the Friday closing date, would you?

In case you do not know, thousands of Nigerians also make their livelihood from DSTV, in fact more than half of the HiTV retail outlets are also DSTV outlets that branched out to support HiTV.

Tell your friends to rethink their survival strategy, if they are business minded then they would realize that they can either sink with HiTV or embrace DSTV and survive in the light of the current realities.
SportsRe: Nff Appoints Samson Siasia As New Super Eagles! by Akainzo(m): 1:55pm On Jul 25, 2010
Silver Medal winning? Yes, that is the hallmark of a good coach.

How many of you would not have settled for Silver medal at the last Nations Cup or even the World Cup?
The other foreign coaches, what have they all achieved? Other than the Westerhoff ACN in 94 and Bonfrere Jo Gold in 1996, which of them have gotten this nation a silver medal? which one?

What I admire about Siasia is his work ethics and his belief in his own self worth. Maybe, we should start asking ourselves why the NFF have always overlooked him even when he always comes first in their interviews?
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs USA: 4 - 2! @ Women's U-20 World Cup by Akainzo(m): 1:48pm On Jul 25, 2010
detruth:
Someone seems to lack proper home training here! Such a public demonstration depicts how they address their parents at home. What a statement! Moderator!!! where is your whip? Awon omo alaileko gbogbo! Aburo Yabuku! Omo iya Keita!
KMVBO:
@ Na so. This shows that you lack morals and home training and you should be ban from this forum. Moderator note
You guys better get a life. If you are still living in the past, then stay there and don't get connected to the internet nor use a public forum. The freedom of speech is the best thing that democracy brings. Your attempted censorship is so off the point that you guys need some more learnings on the use of public forums.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Supersport Acquires Epl Rights For Nigeria, What Now Happens To Hitv? by Akainzo(m): 10:49am On Jul 22, 2010
HiTV now has to develop its content beyond football.

Yes, they have used EPL to launch themselves, but I am dismayed that they have not done so much to develop more content. Once the EPL season ended, HiTV programming was lost in the oceans.
Now they have a fight on their hands and I do hope (as a Nigerian) that they rise up to the occasion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Supersport Acquires Epl Rights For Nigeria by Akainzo(m): 10:37am On Jul 22, 2010
Hurray!!!!

This is one great news I am glad to hear! grin smiley grin
RomanceRe: At The Verge Of Break Up by Akainzo(m): 11:25am On Jul 20, 2010
@OP,

Are you a virgin? I would love to know as that might have an influence on my advice to you.

If you are a virgin, then my advice: Dump the guy and move to someone else that would accept your worldview.

If you are NOT a virgin: Then don't go the way of quoting the bed undefiled bible verse to him (or to us.) The guy might be a jerk just trying to get some from you or he could genuinely love you and want to erase all doubt about sexual compatibility between the two of you. Only you can tell the difference as you can read the subtle messages better.

BTW: why are you afraid he'd leave after having sex with you? Any inadequacies in that area? Do you possess enough self confidence to know that you can keep your man?
A soul search to answer these questions would help you make up your mind. All the best.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 11:27am On Jul 15, 2010
nulldev:
You do know the average size of a financial/central district is less than 4 square miles? How big do you think the square mile in London,the financial district in Manhattan or Jo'burg is? You also know there is (or at least was) a strict floor limit on buildings in Abuja. You also know that the area density is actually bigger than the (already congested) Victoria Island?

I also find the estate claims amusing, maybe Kobojunkie can give us a dictionary link of what an estate is so we can decide if 4 square miles / mixed use qualifies as a 'glorified estate'
That a business district is about 4 square miles is no problem, but to refer to it as a city? Haba! That VI is congested is a mirage of a belief by people that are lazy. The Vegas strip keeps evolving with new hotels almost every two years. However, the strip itself has not been expanded in 30 years! What smart people do is reclaim the land, destroy the old and build new ones. With the right financing, you would have two vegas strips in VI without any probs.

The floor limit is about MAXIMUM height, paddy_lo had been inferring a MINIMUM HEIGHT.  There is a whole world of difference between the two.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 9:57am On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6388007#msg6388007 date=1279159518]can u tell me how u go about acquiring orile iganmu?. . .what legal precedent will u use
Will u just bulldoze the poor people out of there,and then what if they cant afford the new houses built there?
what if they refuse to move?. . .

Where will the money come from?. . .As tax payers in Lagos,why should the rest of the state subsidize the poor people of orile iganmu
What of FESTAC,OJO,AMUWO ODOFFIN,IGBO-ILERI. . . Huh[/quote]You amaze me with this reasoning. FYI, the land in Nigeria by a certain Land Use Act belongs to the State, what needs to be done is to pay compensation for the acquired land and properties, the same way, this project developers paid the state government for the rights to reclaim that land.

Even in the US where you currently reside, government acquires whole areas for re-development. And by the way, all advanced economies subsidize the poor people amongst them, so subsiding the poor in Orile is not unheard of.  FESTAC? It was acquired and built in case you do not know in 1976 by the federal government of Nigeria.  So get to know the facts not the advertisements.

It makes it different from V.I cause the developers will build all infrastructure including light rail. . . .Also provide power to the whole district
There is also no effective zoning in V.I. . .
A highrise building can be built close to a bungalow. . .

Here there are 5 or 6 districts. . the Financial district will be strictly for highrises. . .Besides i suspect with the high cost of plots it will make more sense to build up for most developers
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All of this on 4 square miles  grin grin You are definitely a sucker for advertisement and grand talking. bUt as it is, you are free to spend your money any where you deem fit.

[quote]The Eko Atlantic ppl will construct the circular financial centre building. . . .
Most of the rest of the Area will be developed by private developers
Thats how its done worldwide. . .u cant expect one company to build 100highrises for u
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Read Mr Chagouri's mail to you, he clearly also stated that they have no say in what the developers build, just that they need to conform to certain zoning. That they build one circular financial centre within the estate doesn't make it any better than what it is. That teh developers, can build whatever they want, so long as they conform to zoning.


[quote]Zoning means zoning. . in the financial district it might be say no building lower than 20floors. . . .
They dont have a say in what u build,(u can build 100floors),but nothing below
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And pray, tell me anywhere in the world that has a zoning formula /rule that stipulates the number of floors a building MUST HAVE within that zone. And please, don't confuse that highrises congregate together to mean that the zoning forced them to! wink

[quote]The whole Lagos coastline has lots of free public beaches. . .this is just one tiny sliver and u are getting all worked up
There are private beaches everywhere in the world, miami, rio, cape town and so on. . . .
Plus i am not even sure the whole coastline will be off limits. . .the renders show public bars,restaurant and clubs lining the coast
This is obviously a nice argument to be borrowed by our thieving politicians. Nigeria actually has so much money, so what if I take a small pittance out of it!

In case you do not know, 80% of the Lagos coastline, is for now inaccessible for lack of development. While another 40% of the accessible ones have been taking up by the government agencies (their offices and all, almost the entire Ahmadu Bello way beach front is occupied by government offices, leaving only the Bar Beach end for public use. So when private developers now decide to put Meridian Atlantic city in its front, you believe the people should keep quiet because there are private beaches also in Rio and Cape Town. Try and visit Cape Town and see the expanse of public beach compared to the private ones and the development there before you start to compare the two.

I am sure you have heard about the Maslow Theorem, I am just asking the government to apply it on behalf of the people.

And if u are a socialist cant help u out mate,I'll be Gordon Gecko and tell u Greed is good. . .cheers
Sure, that is why teh world's biggest capitalist, USA, has controls in place to ensure that there are no monopolies so that 'Greed is good' philosophy does not destroy the world. This is done for the good of the people! Get it?
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 1:00am On Jul 15, 2010
Kobojunkie:
I really doubt this is the government erosion control . . I doubt this is all of it. I mean this is just for a 7km long area, the rest still lies open.
You can check it out on their wiki page. That is one of the selling points to the gullible masses.

I still have not gotten responses on this particular aspect of the project. According to Chagouri, the project development includes road development, utilities etc. So, I am thinking this will be a fully self-serviced estate on the island for now. I am also assuming the roads,water, electricity, and possibly security etc will be produced and provided by the main project owners and so there will be not much of a need for government intervention. And this also brings up more questions. Like, if it is really the case that the government has no control on what is done in this area, exactly how much do we get in taxes as so many claim will be the benefit we get to reap from this?
Once there are businesses there, then government has got to be involved. A whole Lagos State can't have its own police force and you want to believe the Eko Atlantic Estate would provide its own security! grin grin grin
What of refuse disposal? Sewage management? Electricity? We are in Nigeria, electricity usually means power lines are there and would be connected to public grid.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 12:47am On Jul 15, 2010
Princek12:
Based on your concerns, you would hope that the Lagos State Govt. is implementing an efficient means of taxing future occupants of buildings in Eko Atlantic, proceeds which will hopefully be used in paying for the costs incident to responding to any disaster that strikes the area.
Nope! Based on my concerns, I would wish the Lagos State government gave thought to the needs of the generality of Lagosians over the needs of the monied few.  That it had told the developers to concentrate for now, on the present land mass in Lagos State using the masterplan as a basis and choose an area to develop.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 12:34am On Jul 15, 2010
Kobojunkie:
But would this not only apply IF and only IF Government is the one manning this project?  Nothing stops the government itself from investing money into erosion control, which I am shocked it is not doing a lot of already. It is usually the governments job to make sure that the right thing is done all the time, not the private sectors, or am I wrong in this particular case?
That is the simplistic way of looking at it. Once this project is completed and people are living and paying taxes to Lagos State government, gbam, the problem is now that of the government.
Supposing there is a massive thunderstorm that threatens the island, who is going to respond? Who has to deploy resources to save lives and properties? Whose monies would be used for that venture?
I am sure none of the above questions can be answered with Chagouri and his group can it?

What has been achieved through the back door is to ensure that government erosion control would be to protect private beaches rather than the public ones, and using public funds at that!

In essence I have a right to choose to purchase and build on swamp land during the dry season. All I would think government could do is probably inform me of the risks and possibly kick me out if lives will be endangered in some way by my actions.
You are quite right. Which is why many a posters have been saying that the postulation that the government of Lagos has nothing to do with this is preposterous. One government gave the go ahead, government gave some guarantees to the bank and when completed the Lagos state government has to provide electricity, security and other government presence. All this cost money and this funds could have been better utilized for the good of all if Orile had been bought over and demolished for this mega estate.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by Akainzo(m): 12:10am On Jul 15, 2010
Been following this for a while now and just some clarity.

First and foremost, irrespective of its nomenclature 'Eko Atlantic City', the project does not build a city, it's just an island estate.
Proof: The developers say it is 4 square miles. That is less than Orile Iganmu!

Meaning, the government of Lagos State, the city of Lagos and the people of Lagos would have been better served if Orile Iganmu was acquired and new developments built.
However, that would not serve the big boys so they reclaim the land and thus have private beaches. grin


[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6386292#msg6386292 date=1279133766]@GARTH. . .
Now he she doesnt want to uderstand that the project has zones,some for high rises,some for low rises. . .

Now i have been communicating with Mr Marc Chagouri for a while now,below are some of our correspondence
[/quote]This still doesn't negate the fact that the island is just an estate.
Also, nothing in this specifies that you cannot build a low rise in an high-rise, just that the maximum height is regulated. So what exactly makes this place different from V.I?


Plots are currently available for sale. Plot sizes start at 2000 square meters and up, and have a starting price of $825 and go up to $1660 per square meter (please note we do accept the equivalent in Naira). Price are determined by where your land is in location to water.

Yes you can make down payments. Our payment plan is simple and straight forward. In Phase 1, which is expected to be sand filled by the end of this year or beginning of next, is 50% down payment and 50% when you receive your land. In phase 2 and on, it is 25% down payment, 25% at the  1 year and 2 year anniversary, and the last 25% when you receive your land.
As you can see from Marc Chagouri's reply, what they are selling is reclaimed land, nothing more, nothing less. All the fanciful buildings are advertisement.

We expect developers to build up in Eko Atlantic. Taller building serving the needs of residential, commercial, retail, and office space. The city is zoned mixed use. Developers can build to their plan, so as long as it adheres to the rules of our planning deparment.

Basic infrastructure will be ready by the time developers begin building. I would like to add that we are providing the infrastructure, and that you will not need to provide your own.
They have clearly also stated that they have no say in what the developers build, just that they need to conform to certain zoning.

And by the way, your initial assertion that the place is not residential is totally incorrect. Their adverts and even wiki page did clearly state that it would have residential zones and well as business districts. The leisure parks are a given as it is the beaches that is driving this.

I also noted that one of the selling points of the project is that it would purportedly help to control erosion of the Lagos public beaches!
Hmmmm, so to control the beach erosion at the public beaches, you create private beaches! Pure bunkum to rob the populace but that is what capitalism is all about. Greed.

As much as this project would put us on the map as doing something, it is however doing something in the wrong direction. One of the successes of the SA World Cup, is that they learnt from the failures of the Korea-Japan 2002 edition. Japan did build fantastic stadiums but they were located away from the populace and didn't have a plan for steady utilization, those WC stadiums are losing Japan a steady $25M every year.
This project is the same, doing something good in the wrong direction.
RomanceRe: if na you nko ? Wetin you go do ? by Akainzo(m): 11:36am On Jul 12, 2010
indie22:
Wife drives an old beat up peugeot while smallie girlfriend drives a honda, ?

I hope that woman threatens to divorce him and take half of all his cheating backside is worth!!

Oniranu!
Are you saying threaten to? Mehn, that guy has a lot going wrong for him. She should go ahead and file and take 75% of his earnings. (he can't do anything better with it anyway)
1st up, he is a fool of a man, that same wife would take his kids around in that old 505.
2nd, that Accord would have been able to get his family an improved lifestyle.
3rd, he is a wimp of a man, and is deranged with no sense of values.
RomanceRe: Did I Act Well? by Akainzo(m): 12:24am On Jul 12, 2010
@OP,

That you are wondering if you did right can only mean one thing: You are regretting letting the pussy go!

Did you do right? Maybe?

What I'd love to know is, supposing she wasn't that forward and had played it coy with you, would you have referred to her as a LovePeddler?
And once you didn't think of her as a LovePeddler, what decision would you have made?
PoliticsRe: Pastor Okotie Blasts Jonathan Over Soccer Ban Reversal by Akainzo(m): 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2010
sessy2:
He should go and sit down jare. what makes him different from them.?
And therefore he can say what he thinks or believe about 'them'. This time around, he amongst 'them' have said the correct thing.

BTW, what makes YOU different from them? Is this the reason why you support rash and unnecessary decisions?

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