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[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=776556.msg9290812#msg9290812 date=1317954569]Either way she will be a partial juror. If she is a Christian southerner, she will definitely convict Mutallab, if she is Yoruba Christian,  but if she is Yoruba or Northern muslim, she will definitely cause mistrial in that court. The best thing to do is to eliminate her besides, she may not want to be part of it because she may not only be losing wages doing that but her family in Nigeria will be at the mercy of the outcome of the case. Imagine selecting OnlyTruth in the jury and how merciful he will be to the cause of his fellow country man who is from the muslim North. Mutallab is safer in the hands of white rednecks I swear.[/quote]your comment here reflects your level of ignorance. So what u are saying is that a Yoruba muslim is also a terrorist. Have u seen such propensity in them talkless of any record? Any one who will convict the guy does not need to do that on the basis of whether christain or muslim but on the basis of fact. It doesnt matter at all what he believes to have commited that offence and it shouldnt matter at all what the judge or any one involved believes before convicting him of the crime. Is he guilty? - yes then jail him period.

U need to expand your scope I think, its an advice, not to run u down, hope u'd understand.

Nonsense!

If this is truly the prophecy T.B gave, then I pity those who believe, they have to recharge their brains. Such prophecy is meant to be that he was getting hints from God, how would God's hint be so deceitful and indirect? This is strategic lying applying the pendulum principle, wherever it swings is favorable.

If we lost on saturday, he would say he already predicted the loss, so his prediction comes true? If we won, he would say he predicted victory provided they work together, So his prediction comes true?we all know they need to work together in order for them to win this match.

So why the Gambling Pastor T.B?

Nothing to celebrate in the real sense, I mean,  what are we celebrating? the bombs, the hardship, the hopeless govt?

I told ppl that it is understandable if "diasporan's" wants to celebrate cos it might be an event used as an opportunity to unify themselves but lets not call it celebration, lets call it Reflection and make it a lil bit low key.

Otherwise, others might be wondering "what are these Nigerians actually celebrating?",  thats the way I see it, at least if they are not very aware of the level of poverty, unemployment etc in Nigeria, c'mon the bombings alone is everywhere in the news and it has since been relapsing like a strange fever, they keep asking you all the time about the bomb blast in your country and feel sorry for Nigeria.  Therefore I advised that lets say reflection and we will make more sense and at the end of the day it will still look like we are celebrating just in a lil different way and that we did and it was okay.

But your advice is best needed by your own self.

U did not check and cross-check before contributing As a result, you grossly misunderstood the development.

Let me help you out, The family did not ask for 58M as you have misunderstood and the story was not blown out by the media but by ACN. ACN sorted for media publicity for their action.

The family formally informed the govt of their fathers death being an ex governor of the state. The family had budgeted 58M for the burial, remember that it would have been a PDP affair but Ajimobi was willing to gain further political relevance amongst the Ibadan political class, hence he offered to sponsor roughly 70% of the family's budget to silence the PDP who would have claimed the glory for the burial if it was totally funded by them

So Ajimobi could never have assumed that the burial would have no funding because he knows the financial worth of Kolapo's children and even ground children and he knows very well that the PDP could sponsor the burial without a sweat. The fact still remains that he squandered ppl,s money for a mere reason of scoring political point.

, and how did u arrive at "monetizing"? (you seem trying to impose your own personal opinion on ppl here) they said the money would be released to the family, the only monetization is probably the Adamsingba that they want to renovate for th burial which the family has turned down already.

@Paris10

You tried but got a fact wrong. Alubarika is validly a Yoruba word. It is a borrowed word with arabic origin, that is true but the fact that you are aware that it is of Arabic origin does not nullify it as a valid Yoruba vocabulary. It is just like saying words like Champaign, Serviette, Mayday etc are not English but French.

It is a normal phenomenon in all languages to borrow words to improve their vocabulary. It is also very wrong your claim that the word Alubarika is used amongst the Yoruba muslims only, that is very very wrong because even if you attend the orthodox churches in Nigeria where pastors preach in the hardcore Yoruba, such pastors use the word Alubarika countless times in their preaching. So check your facts very well. I have a feeling that you are a very limited user of the language. Oriire that u gave instead as the real meaning does not meanthe same as Alubarika.


Alubarika is used most times as an expression of good virtues in a given entity while Oriire means Goodluck. U must have confused it to mean the same thing because its closely used side by side but it doesn't mean the same.

For the avoidance of doubts, see the examples below:

Omo ol'oriire = A lucky child
Omo al'alubarika = A child with good virtues

Iyawo ol'oriire = A lucky wife
Iyawo al'alubarika = A wife with good virtues

If you look at these examples, your wife could be lucky but without good virtues while she could have good virtues but not lucky.
If we pay attention to our local languages, many will find out that they make several diction blunders and most are unaware of it because we dont use these languages to measure our competences whatsoever. Those that are aware dont even care.

Hey guys, I can give u an update on this old story.

Ajimobi announced on paper monday that

1)He has aproved the sum N30M naira for the burial of Kolapo the ex governor.
2) That the family of the dead requested for the amount and he decided to release the total sum requested
3) That he took the action to score political point against PDP whom he percieved was trying to checkmate him with the burial

See link below:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/ajimobi-approves-n30-million-for-ex-gov-isholas-burial/

On wednesday
1) the representative of Kolapo Ishola family expressed their anger at the action and thereby rejected the money
for the following reason

1) Undue publicity
2) Undue politicization of their father's burial
3) That they did not request money from him as he claimed rather he was the one who was willing to contribute
4) He has told the whole world he gave them money whereas he has not
5) That they will not use Adamasingba has offered by the gov and instead will use Liberty stadium the family earlier planned to use just to show the world that they had their plans before the governor interrupted with his plans (see tribune sep 28)

Ajimobi's reaction
1) It is unfortunate that Kolapo's family misconcieved our kind gesture
2) They informed us about their fathers death
3) We offered to assist with 25M and another 5M out of the total 58M the family budgeted to bury their father

See link below

http://www.champion.com.ng/displaycontent.asp?pid=13637

My conclusion

1) ACN are very lousy. they like to blow out things out of proportion using the media.
2) They claimed that they released the total sum earlier where as they later told the truth that the total sum was 58 and not 30M they announced last week
3) The only reason these ppl gave to have released such a huge sume for mere merriment is that they are willing to score political point against PDP. Which implies that these people will go as far as spending any amount from the state funds as long as it is politics against the PDP. If people are more observant with how they read papers, they can detect many lies and flaws from the statement and actions of these politicians.

A responsible government will not feed her people with lies on papers on regular basis
A responsible governmeent will not put priority on politics at the expense of the welfare of the masses.
I rest my case

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=770046.msg9235488#msg9235488 date=1317202069]No be him fault since EFCC,ICPC and CCB refused to do their job.Akala should be in kirikiri by now.[/quote]Are u aware that EFCC can't draw any allegation against anyone if no petition is filed from either the govt, group or an individual You should have put the blame on Ajimobi who until this moment is still yet to file a petition against Akala despite even being part of his campaign promises so much so that it was generally believed by the ppl of the state that Akala would be heading straight to Agodi prison as soon as he signed out as the governor of the state, it's a different thing if Ajimobi filed a petition and EFCC refused to act on it. It shouldn't be very difficult for Ajimobi to petition Akala who is believed to be so corrupt.

I don't need a soothsayer to know that these guys are another bunch of thieves in another package strictly for the consumption of the same target group (the helpless masses)

@dustydee wow! she beat me hands down. runs off to take private lessons from Ileke idi

Even Ileke -Idi herself, how much Yoruba can she speak? Youth of this generation can't just speak the hardcore anymore and unfortunately, they feel proud for not being able to speak their language.

I have not met any Yoruba that falls within my scope in Yoruba language for a long time.

When u use vocabularies like Faraan, Oniganbe, lakalaka, alumogaji, toto, iyewu, aha, okiti-ogan, gaaru, opalamba etc they look at u as if u are speaking a different language. Can u ask ur to-be teacher Ileke Idi if she knows the meaning of those vocabularies?

Shame!

The headline's for people's consumption. Playing politics with tax payer's money How much sense and how much nonsense does this make

IBADAN- GOVERNOR Abiola Ajimobi of Oyo State has approved the sum of N30 million for the burial of the former governor of the state, Chief Kolapo Ishola, who died recently in Ibadan.

The governor has also set up a five-man committee headed by the Special Adviser on Political Matters to the governor, Alhaji Fatai Ibikunle, to liaise with another five-man committee set up by the Ishola family comprising his children and others.

Senator Ajimobi was said to have released the money to silence members of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, in the state for allegedly introducing political sentiments into the former governor’s burial.

A source told Vanguard that Governor Ajimobi approved the exact money requested by the family for the burial as a way of forestalling politicisation of the burial by some PDP stalwarts in the state who wanted government alienated from the burial.

It was gathered that some top PDP stalwarts in the state sought to monopolise the burial of Ishola and use it to indict the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, administration.

It will be recalled that Governor Ajimobi announced immediately after Ishola’s death that the state government would accord the late elder statesman a state burial.

The governor had said that Ishola’s loss was personal to him as he was an associate of his late father.

The burial ceremony, which begins on October 3, will culminate in Ishola’s burial on October 7, 2011.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/ajimobi-approves-n30-million-for-ex-gov-isholas-burial/

@Jamesdoe

Everyone following this thread can easily spot the difference between you and me. Another advice for you, using gutter languages is bad for ur reputation. Think responsibly.

Goodluck.

JamesDoe:
@ Anvallar

Go and look up the definition of "maybe" in an English dictionary.

OLODO!

U are are washing your dirty linen in the public. For that reason, I don't need to ask whats your level of education, I have already known it.  If u know the meaning of "maybe" I am sure you dont know the meaning of "probably" as reflected in my comment otherwise you wouldn't have written what u wrote. Look the word "probably" up in your dictionary and tell me the meaning.

Tell me how this is different from ur post's impresssion "He now went ahead to believe that the police were PROBABLY beating up someone." or did I make things difficult for u cos I did not copy your statement word for word?

U may also want to know what it means when words are synonymous to each other. I hate that I am giving u an elementary assignment but I have to if u need to be rescued.

Get your self busy with this home work.


Homie.

@Werepeleri

Sorry I have modified my post, u may check the last paragraph. I am leaning on slap 1's side. And I advised that some one may give a counter argument to slap 1's.

I am laughing at some here trying to argue like lawyers.

@Jamesdoe [/b]who argued that the pix can not prove that the police were scrambling for money because he did not see any money. He now went ahead to believe that the police were probably beating up someone. What a very flat and biased argument!!! Did he see who the police were beating in the picture just like he didn't see the money they were scrambling for?

[b]@Yem-yem He or she believe strongly that the police were beating up someone, yem-yem must be looking at a different picture. If it was the same picture, every one captured in it were police. Both guys under, kneeling and bending forward has police trousers and shoes, could they be civilian in police uniform, u may tell me about it if u have seen more than I have seen in this picture?

@doctokwus He believes that the image in the picture can not be taken as exhibit in any court but he is probably not aware that such can be taken as an exhibit if it is accompanied by eyewitnesses which is possible in this case. U may not know that eyewitness accounts are most times taken more seriously in the court than even pictures.

@slap 1 Although his argument looks sarcastic but if there are no eyewitnesses, it might be difficult for the other lawyer to strike out his argument just like I have struck out the argument of the 1st 3. Because th 1st 3 were arguing that they were not scrambling for money but the 3 failed to put up a good argument for what the police could be scrambling for which slap1 has done here. Can anyone strike out slap1's argument that they are not scrambling for bushmeat?

Johnnie
gave at least 3 pictures of Obama and his wife in exactly the same GEJ circumstance. "Mitchell stepping out the jet before Obama" so what exactly is the protocol if the US president is also breaking it?

I think the problem with GEJ is that his wife looks too bush so even if he was not actually wrong by his action but the bushy swag of his wife will give a feeling that something is just not right.

walex2:
AKALA HIMSELF IS NOT CLEAN, BUT TO SAY THE FACT IS UNBECOMING OF A SITTING GOVERNOR TO GO AND SIT ON A BENCH AT THE TRIBUNAL BECAUSE HIS MASTER IS BEING TRIED.

Check the bolded: Another point u are raising here, I keep asking this question, why has Ajimobi up till now not filed a single petition against Akala to the EFCC? According to them, him and his party were extremely exasperated at the level of corruption of Akala administration and were committed to putting him to jail as soon as they take over power. Why has Ajimobi relaxed immediately after he became governor even though he blame his inability to perform on this same guy every day. It must be that this guy Ajimobi does not hate corruption as much as the impression he was trying to give, he only needed to impress people to get their votes.

I think we all know the value of 16b Naira. That is the amount these people get from the presidency exclusively to help the flood victim and and clear the drainages.

Question to Ibadan people, have u seen any 16b Naira at work in Ibadan? except the distribution of mattresses which was even marred with several complaints of fraud and favoritism. The news of distribution of mattresses was everywhere in the newspaper (blatant propagandists). But the news that they got 16b never reflected in all their report except through statement from presidency and criticism from the PDP. Who are the ACN fooling actually?

@Hajifaty and Sandysprax

Are u both joking? What that guy wrote is nonsense and am amazed that u lack the comprehension to see the flaws in his claims. He got many things wrong and he is even arrogant and unreasonable. Fine, it is accepted that some Nigerians are too flambouyant and spoils their children while they should allow them to be productive but he lied when he said it is only the case amongst Nigerians.

Check this, he thinks that if a young graduate demands N250, 000 as starting salary is as a result of spoiling a child. This makes me doubt his claim that he owns a house in the U.K (which i bet its mortgage) because with the prevailing exchange rate, that is just about 1,100 euro. What much can he do with that? anywhere in the world, salary is negotiated, if u demand 250, u may end up negotiating for 200 or 180 so what is wrong if a guy proposed 250? So how can that be too much in the opinion of a guy who claimed to have bought a house in UK? U cant do any thing extra with such salary except in Nigeria where almost all basic needs in life are considered as luxury (poverty!)

The point is that a very few Nigerians do what he is writing about. I know what I am saying, when I was studying, I know many of us that we knew how comfortable our living standard was back home but we still went scouting here and there for job even including ladies simply because we considered it inaudible to ask our parents to send money for living (from Nigeria) after having paid expensive tuition already. We risked sharing room with each other (which was illegal) in order to reduce cost on accommodation, the ones who were in the middle class or lower from home but were lucky enough to have scholarship lived far better life than we did. This guys got about 1000 euro living allowance every month and they did not pay tuition. They belonged to the rich students group while we belonged to the poor students group, they did not need to work and they earn 1000 at the end of the month while we strive to work and may not even earn up to 300 in a month. So if u are there and u think "haa the rich Nigerians just spend money anyhow and spoil their children" it must be part of mis information this guy is trying to spread here. Are u telling me that the children of the middle class Nigerians dont also stay home and enjoy the little their parents have until they are able to get a job?

This guy should have discussed the unemployment problem in Nigeria and how to solve it instead of writing a long silly note to the parents

Kolababa:
Those PDP hawks that lost election in the southwest and now pushing GEJ to deal with Tinubu because he made them loose election, did they perform in office? I dont know why Alao Akala will blame Tinubu for his failure. What about a governor that executed a project of N20 million and then spent N95million to commission it. He increased tuition fees three times in office aqnd he is complaining to GEJ that Tinubu is the PDP problem in the southwest.

They said the man operated a foreign account but fail to tell us or show us the statement or balance to know if he actually run the account because I reliably gathered that those accounts were opened before he became governor. When they knew there was no concrete evidence to nail this man, they hurriedly ammended the charge to false declaration.

@ Kolababa

Check the bolded in the 1st paragraph, do u believe that? C'mon, tell me NO!!! I am sure that u cant be so dumb. Don't u know about the run down strategy in politics? If u do not run your opposition down u may fail at your attempt at booting him out considering the power of incumbency. If it was true, why has ACN not even written a petition against that? 95M to commission 20M project and Oyo ACN has not filed a single petition to the EFCC? U are a joker.

Check the bolded in the second paragraph, what they did was actually not amendment as u want to believe but addition to the count of the charges it is not abnormal if they are coming up with after-thought charges. Check most cases in Nigeria, lawyers are always coming with extra exhibits that were never stated in the original application. It is now left to the judge to accept or reject such. Tinubu is yet to argue against the accusation that he failed to declare those accounts even if there was zero amount in them (that is the principal count against him). He knew quite well that it was unconstitutional thing to do. Why did he not declare them?

Many like u have argued that it is mere witch hunting to want to punish Tinubu of that offence because many other politicians are equally guilty of same. The point is if the court finds him guilty and charged, it will be setting a good precedent in the judiciary to equally charge other accuse where similar evidences have been presented against them.

It is a pity that many like u look at things thru the eyes of sentiment.

To the poster,

In ur write up, between the lines of some paragraphs, u made sense. It is true that no matter how rich ur parents are in this part of the world, the children would work for their own money. They may enjoy certain priviledges because they have rich parents but not ridiculously as in the case of Nigeria.

But between the lines of some other paragraphs, u did not make sense. U took things too far, talking as if everything is okay in Nigeria. Do u think that this ridiculous trend would be sustained if there are holiday jobs here and there in Nigeria that young ppl can do as its the case in UK? No is the answer.

If u dont know, many young people are ready to leave their parents' house whether the parents like it or not and find a job so that they can earn their own money and feel responsible for themselves but unfortunately they have no option than to stay home cos there are no jobs out there. No adult will be comfortable with dad and mum telling u what to do even if they have bought u a car. U would have prefered to use ur own money to buy ur own car so no one tells u what to do with ur car.

Even the so called rich became so stupid about spoonfeeding their "ädult children" because these children have no other option. If u know that ur child can get a job that pays reasonably out there, they would bother less about over protecting them. Now pls read my comment very well, I am not defending these parents, I am just raising it as a point because one must discuss the cause of a problem before discussing the effect and then the solution.

Conclusion: As long as the Nigerian situation remains as it is, all these crazy trends will be sustained. Therefore u should have written a letter to the govt to at least provide job for young ppl and see whether this trend wil not die naturally

bekay911:
am so sorry but guys are not good they werent good and will neva b good. for where ;d

Hahahahaha, she must have been broken hearted sooo many times, there are still good guys, change your strategy and perception would change.

@LaShawn-- U ve got a kind a pretty nick name, my advice for u is to evaluate urself, u are probably doing something wrong. Guys dont like ladies that are too "chicken hearted" or may be guys like them only because they can easily ride such ladies over. Don't present urself as weak and vulnerable to your relationship. A guy would respect u if he knows that u are strong and knows what u want just as much as u are in love. Although, this sounds a bit theoretical but it may also work if u try to fix it in.

You may enjoy the track "pass u by" of boyzIImen for some "soul-lyrical" advice on this issue

Goodluck

@Pateuropa

U seem not to understand the scope of my argument. U are making several references to me in ur reply which I never said. So I f I keep exchanging comment with u here, it will amount to a waste of time for me.

Just to let u know, I argue from a psychological angle not from a religious angle. (so all ur effort to try to paint me as one of those religious fools is nonsense) My argument is about what could be the psychological effect of believing in religion and not. It will be wrong for u to completely strike out sense in religious beliefs because there are positivities in it, I can as well chose to argue for atheism cos I know the sense that it makes, however I also know the nonsense that it makes just as I know the nonsense about religion. For u to fix urself in one extreme side is where u are getting things wrong.

Goodluck in Germany!
Bye Homie.

Pateuropa

I dont want to engage in long argument with u on this issue, nonetheless I cant afford not to reply u. U sounded ignorant by asking what is satanic? let me leave that. My guy, if u are directly juxtaposing the Nigerian situation with the western situation to draw your conclusions, u would always get things wrong. U fail to understand that u can not absolve the westerners of these so called habits by claiming that Nigerians also do it because it is a known fact that they are all western influences on Nigerians.

Now let me tell u, I leave here yes and I relate with all types of people. No matter what they look like because of course I learn form them, u ask questions what do they believe etc. They don't hurt you, in fact they are nice people but becasue of the kind of life they live, they fight psychological battles most of the time. They are always slaves to these and those addictions and they can not help it, I probably know more about what I am saying more than u do, I roll with them, I understand them very well, I have been to several crazy clubs that may be u urself have never stepped in, but all that would not pollute my understanding of life, rather I would just learn lessons from it. In Nigeria, most of the so called bad habits could always be traced to poverty. Poverty is zero here, it doesnt exist, so why? If u think that atheistic mentality has nothing to do with a girl prostituting at will, why is it that only the poor ladies with no hopes are the most LovePeddlers in Nigeria?

I am not completely defending the situation in Nigeria but I will not agree with a complete argument to the left. Okay, let me ask u? U are there in Germany, talking as if u understand everything about freedom and exposure, I dont know your socio economic class in Germany but here in the Netherlands where human right is claimed to be almost 100%, U would not get a job in certain sector if u are badly tattoed and pierced looking like a "hippy" I work with an international management consultancy, I don't see ppl like that in my company and all our partners. mind u, we have several partner companies these group of ppl belong to lower socio economic class/lower level of education. Now the question is if there is nothing wrong with what they look like, why not not employ them in the corporate world? why are they mostly lowly educated. Is that not discrimination in a country where they are fighting day in day out to reduce discrimination to the bearest minimum?

My friend, I am living here and I am enjoying it of course but u also need to enjoy urself without getting lost to the white man mentality. Humans need to restrain themselves, u must have self control, there should be limit to your ventures, u must not be a pervert. Don't people comit suicide regularly on your rail tracks there in Germany? These ppl are not starving, they can enjoy social benefits but they still kill themselves. On three occassions this year alone, my travel has been delayed due to ppl jumping on the rail track to comit suicide, and it happens across the country, many cancelled train trips because there is a suicide, it doesnt even bug ppl anymore, that is not part of several domestic suicide records, why are they committing suicide? so can u commit suicide? Nigerian would comit suicide as a result of any form of frustration caused by poverty. All these things have effects on psychology of man, so also does religion but the effects work out in different ways

So my friend, I am not here to sojourn abroad because I want to allow the white man mentality to suppress me, never, I am highly educated and I look at things and give a judgment from the normal angle.

U guys have to be careful most especially the writer of the article. He is an atheist and very proud of being one but I dont totally agree with his points. He sounded intelligent but atheists can also be as silly as a religious person if measured from the opposite angle. If u completely detach religion from ppl, they become mad, irrational and immoral, less controllable and if u asked me that why should they be controlled? then I would ask u to tell me whether there are no strong systems in place (even stronger than any in Nigeria) in the developed world (where they are less religious) to control their citizens despite the fact that they have all they want, why are they still irrational? [/b]Power is nothing without control.

In the west, Women, after having gone through the best of education would just detach from the same family that made her who she is and start professional prostitution. It is not out of depression, not out of poverty, she is just happy with it, a means of enjoying FREEDOM which this writer is advocating for. U can see the extent at which ppl can be immoral when there is too much freedom. [b]Children smoking hemps and using drugs and it is because no one can stop them, not the society, not even their parents. An atheistic mentality sees nothing wrong in anything as long as something makes u feel good, then go ahead and do it. It is the reason why U'd see more and more ppl on the streets, with several piercings on their face, and tongue looking satanic. What about the proliferation of same sex? I wont delve so much into that.

This guy should have written an article about how Nigerians should believe less in miracle while they remain religious and use their brains to think of solutions to their problems and solve it practically and then learn to be satisfied with whatever result they get from the solution. Not the I-must-build-a-house-next-year mentality when u earn less than N100k this year how possible? Such person would steal and call it miracle. The reason for this mentality is what there preacher tells them. Many churches in Nigeria start the new year with ridiculous slogans, 20?? "YOUR YEAR OF ASCENSION" "YOUR YEAR OF MIRACLE" "YOUR YEAR OF ABUNDANCE" etc. year after year, they manufacture slogans and unfortunately, every single member from church to church would believe that they will breakthrough that year. Looking at the laws of nature, is it possible?

I'd continue using Q&A

Q But would u blame them?
A[/b]of course yes, why are they so silly to believe these clergies each time they tell them craps,
[b]Q But they are adults why would they just believe craps
A Because they have been made to believ that thy can not just pick up these books buy themselves and comprehend unless u have a level of holy spirit residing in u and it is only the clergies that has the required level to comprehend
Q What do the clergies stand to gain by telling ppl that?
A So that ppl can easily be manipulated and dogmatised. This the reason why no listener would challenge the claims of any preacher as he preaches. They have been conditioned to believe that everything they say is right even if u have a different understanding of the same verse in the same book u have in your hand.

So to the writer of this article, hating religion in this case is like hating the game instead of the players.

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=762182.msg9166345#msg9166345 date=1316282356]So where are all the IDiOOOOOOTs jumping up and down praising the Boko Haram begging yesterday?

Where Una dey nah?

We told you, You cannot fight an ideological struggle with amnesty begging and pleading. But Una too mumu to understand  

Until we punish people and make them accountable for their crimes we cannot have anything close to peace and progress.

The right thing to do is to try those( soldiers and policemen) that murdered people in their custody and sentence them to death for murder.

The right thing to do is to find arrest and try every Boko Haram involved in killing innocent people and sentence them to death.

The right thing to do is to try every act of law breaking, looting and corruption we've swept under the carpet and make people pay for their crimes.

But we will not do that, because we keep making excuses for wicked and dishonest looters and liars.

Without justice there can never be peace. I just pity the gullible innocents.[/quote]You are very right.

Though I am not saying Obj's visit to the Yusuff's family was right but this development somehow made things clear. Killing of this guy after Obj's visit is an indication that 1) the influence controlling Boko Haram is not rooted in that family and 2) Boko Haram is committed to their course and that they would exterminate any saboteur even if it is one of their own (Baba Fugu).

To this end, I believe it would have been very clear to Obj and all of them by now that negotiation as a solution can never work as an option. This guys have already declared war and the only option for the government is to go into war with them.

well I dont know much about this case but reading through all comments, I think Oshiomhole shouldnt have done that after all. Lets assume the the major was a monster who have terrorized innocent ppl by bringing down their houses. He has misused power to oppress people which Oshiomhole accused him for and subsequently ordered his arrest.

But there and then, Oshiomhole becomes also guilty of the same thing he accused the major for. MISUSE of power. He can equally get the major punished without going the crude way. He should have at that point terminated is appointment with immediate effect (not an arrest) and order him to appear probably the following day, before a panel which will investigate his actions, the result of which will lead to his arrest, charge him to court and get him jailed. All this can happen in 2 weeks depending on how much Oshiomhole is committed to getting the case expedited.

So if we say the gov was right to have treated the major that way because the major was a monster, so when would someone do something right? thats the problem we have in Nigeria, always finding justification for doing the wrong thing, the major did it and Oshiomhole also did it by the way he reacted while many posters here are also supporting the action, so when would Nigeria change?

@Poster, U are the one who can solve this problem for yourself, many ppl are raising different points here, which are good points but u have to identify which one really suit ur situation otherwise u would end up further confused by this thread. There is nothing wrong at all if u want to stay alone but look around you first, is it realistic? can u afford it? does it make u happy? would your parent understand or be very angry with u instead? etc.

Another area, check urself, how much self control u have, can u still be as disciplined as your parent want u to be even if they are not around to put any pressure on u?

Would you be able to handle aggressive moves from guys because they see u are lady living alone (out of assumption that u have freedom to do anything crazy)

Have u considered security of yourself in a lonely flat? although u mentioned sharing with another person.

If u look at all these and may be some more that is also important to you and u are convinced that u can handle the situation perfectly, Then I dont see nothing wrong if u want to leave alone, u are an adult and educated but if u look thru this and u see nothing but troubles, hmmm stay home with mummy and u'd be safe, at least it cant be forever.

What a looooooooooooonng thread, something like a loooooong thing.

Good try by the initiator but how does this work when all xters exist virtually

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=759141.msg9150980#msg9150980 date=1316076690]LOL--Wow! So folks like you still exist. Interesting.

Does the thread look like a boxing ring? What's your deal?

You're trying so hard to "sound" like a tough guy, but in the process you "sound" like a lame coward. It's just an argument fam. Easy on the testosterone.

Plus, how are you so sure I'm a female for real? (rhetorical question)[/quote]Well I wont feel bad if u call me anything, no competition here. I am disappointed u took my last comment very seriously, U didnt read any jokes between my lines well lets leave it here please, I enjoyed my argument with u but u seem very ready to be harsh on me, u are probably the one who is taking this as competition. Honestly, I was expecting u will just LOL, over my comment and thats it. But "lame coward" hmm BABE! I have to run now.

I wish u goodluck, thanks and bye.

@BABE!
[quote][/quote] "PS: I could have replied your post earlier. I didn't know it was gonna be this easy. I randomly saw some chunky sentences in the post, and I assumed it was some Harvard sh1t---- lol. "
----This is the more reason why I felt disappointed when u left. Whatever message I am, trying to pass across, its my principle to make myself as clear as a glass so ppl can see through me.

Ok Babe! I'd feel no shame if I am giving up to a lady so am giving it up to you. Hahahaha u are the boss!!! Mind u, its not because I have lost the points to hit u back but cos I have lost the mood.

U should have done this right then when I was fuming,  I would never have given in if u were a guy though, I would have handled it as a "chrome-meet-chrome" thing but nah not with a BABE!

Well its okay, I have enjoyed the exchange so far, I would have appreciated it much more if u are still in the mood to keep it coming but never mind, I am not trying to induce u to continue. Surely I would have gone out of mood when u reply.

Bye.