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marabout:
How can he bring forward when he is barred from commenting? This was your gang up plan, bar Areafada2 and then flood the thread with lies he cannot respond to.

What makes you believe that your mushroom so called proof has to dignified with any evidence.

Even simple fair play, you people are afraid of. Shame on you guys.

Anyhow, who says those so called evidence are genuine?

Who cares about what your Muslim masters write or think of Yoruba?

You lot are so pained & jealous that you have dedicated yourself to denying Benin history. Continue with your futility.

I guess History2900 has already learnt not to argue with bigoted narrow minded people.

So you feed your Edo friend that he will miss your friendship? Who says he cares about such a worthless friendship? See megalomania o. Very funny.

Maybe he grew up in Yorubaland to even keep a friend like you.

You cannit not be different from the usual traitor, backbitting behaviour while forming "respectful".

gabazin080:
Joy?

bro is your brain paining u?

InvertedHammer:
Simple solution.

She cut your clothes. She cut your wife's clothes.

You and your wife should get together and beat "rankadede barkazu aki ba "out of her.

I no sure say person don wire her serious beating before.
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NoRetreat:
It's a very serious concern that despite the fact that lagoon with sufficient water surrounds the island yet fire could wreck havoc and destroyed traditional regalia of the monarch. The implication to my mind is that whenever we see Oba in his traditional regalia ,we should assume that he is fake as original is burnt !!!

Amiano:
GEJ lost his brother in that Aso Villa.

Demonds in Aso Rock

Ochoiho:
There is something sinister in that Aso Villa. The scenario had been either the President, the wife or a close relation die during the tenure of a sitting president. What could be the possible explanation for this. I hope history will not repeat itself. The President might not have done very well but there is no point expecting his death, he has a good heart lets pray for his recovery.

ephi123:
Not again.

Where on earth is our president? Where?

Why should an incapacitated person be leading a nation of 170+ million?

icemann:
Are you that stupid' that you can't see that you have been manipulated to be happy with ₦400 when the govt took over at about ₦200 to a $.

potent5:
If they don't have the balls, at least you can ask them out. Otherwise you will lose out o.

africandictator:
this is insanely ridiculous, there is nothing special in this, daughters and sons of purewater and akara sellers have also becomed graduates!.. kudos and congrats to the girl tho..

YonkijiSappo:
^^ Guy, pls just answer the thread question for the sake of us interested in Knowing, and stop beating around the bush.

Olu317:
You see, Once again, you have been taught falsified lies. How can a landlocked Edo invaded Lagos without firstly fighting against Itsekiri, Ilaje even ijebu before getting across through Lagos? You guys are bunch of liars. BINI had no military might. I raised a questions ,which you cowardly ignored . If BINI was that strong, how come she didn't fight against Ebira? My own Father Luusi has an off shoot at USI EKITI, EMURE EKITI, IKOLE EKITI, OKE IMESI, ARA ORIN IN IGBOMINA etc. What is the testimony of your fake BINI history? You think, I am one those who just come online without adequate information of who he is. You must be a new person in history. You kept claiming Places, and they kept denying you. For your information, BINI at one time claimed ONDO town, Claimed OWO , CLAIMED OWNERSHIP OF IFA, CLAIMED OLOKUN, CLAIMED OGUN and IDUNGARAN. You have mentioned Ashipa, as if it is a BINI name. Stop peddling lies all about because Yoruba didn't find it necessary to attach sentiments to it. Whose lineage did the Ashipa came out from BINI? Little did you know that many proper Indigene came from ILE IFE with ORANMIYAN. WITHOUT these people, mention other IGODOMOGODO people. You have no HISTORY without Yoruba. Oh No, what a pity! You mentioned French Army acknowledging one man? When Infact Yoruba woman called Carlotta in Cuba was even acknowledged even CUBA. You are here comparing hundreds of thousands awesome and fearsome warriors. Are you sure, it was BINI or BÉNIN? You better get the information correct? Where did Landlocked BINI had contact with FRENCH ARMY? It is the same thing, I have written about you guys. Lies! lies!! lies!!! Dahomey Kingdom was what the British Soldiers fought against and it was recorded that Dahomey at one time was paying tribute to Oyo Empire. Who paid tribute to BINI Kingdom? BINI was at best carving sculpture to boast their small enclave town. The IDUNGARAN that thrived was under IJESHA MAN'S DESCENDANTS. What story are you inferring? The Ogun, IFA, Olokun, etc you worship today were all Yoruba owned. You lay claim to something and yet you people couldn't defend how it came into being. No known story of Yoruba princes who came to BINI to visit that didn't return. There are record of these. In fact when they depart, it is always with a lot gifts to follow them. History of interaction is always there to open this up. Yoruba even thought you how to Wear clothes. After all, it is Yoruba ASO OKE you wear. What are you really thinking to come do some irrelevant comparative between BINI and YORUBA. Yoruba men are always Hot cake for BINI ladies even if they come in contact. Even if he such men were married. WE GOT STYLE THAT MAKE PEOPLE WANT AN ATTACHE LIKE IGODO DID when they came to beg someone that we can rule OVER YOU. AND We are still ruling over you. Have you done population statistics? kindly don't add AMERICAS TO IT BECAUSE IT MAY GIVE YOU MORE SHOCK than you can imagine.

Cheers

thornapple:
At least you were smart enough to avoid what would've been a perilous marriage. Kudos and where have you been?.
Still busy showing new comers how to survive outside their fatherland?

Olu317:
The story, you sent has nothing to do with Yoruba influence on BINI history. I would no go into Julio Cesar history today because, it irrelevant. I asked again because You people have always claimed supremacy, why didnt BINI have an edge and influence EBIRA? Yoruba has at least 60+% influence on Ebira, yet their Art is related to BINI and not Yoruba. Are you from Owo or Bini? Quite a funny man, you are. And which of the family are from in OWO?, I am doubtful of your history unless you clarify it because you can not claim to Owo and not know Yoruba history with your desire to unravel many part of the connection of Yoruba's Odu'a and one unknown and non existing Izoduwa . However, Let me inform you that, there is no iota of doubt that I will be more desirous in knowing the man called Olofin Adimula (Odu'a) history more than you because I am his DESCENDANT from the lineage of OONI LAJADOGUN whose ruling house today , are the only accepted ruling houses in ILE IFE. I am the son of OWALUUSI( called LUUSI by his family) who was the son of OONI LAFOGIDO. LAFIGODO was the son of LAJADOGUN . LUUSI's FIRST SON was ORIMOLAADE(called LAADE by his family) .The current OONI is from my own HOUSE. In the current Ruling houses at ILE IFE, LUUSI is connected to two out of the four ruling houses because he was mighty warrior like ORANMIYAN. I refer to this because you can imagine, over five hundred (500+) years,history I just informed you on. How can you now want to tell me who ODU'A was? I know who ODU'A was and where he came from. Let me inform you that it was a problem to truly pinned down Yoruba identity in the past because of no concrete evidence apart from oral and Bronze castings, Clothes weaving as well as beads making with which some were done in west Africa. But their Bronze castings were too developed to be from west Africa ideology. This is not because west Africa cannot develop such Artistic creativity but because it was a modern kind of castings method during the iron age. The Songhai of this world didn't have anything close to it. This and many more were the reason, the whites researchers kept researching on Yoruba identity. And BINI has no history without Yoruba . But thank God, the whole world is a global village and DNA has shown that Yoruba information about migration is true with YORUBA traces link to many part of the world even is Middle Eastern with four Jewish blood link; SAMARITAN, SEPHARDIC JEWISH TURKEY, JEWISH IRAQ,COCHIN JEWISH INDIA AND BNEI MENASHE JEWISH INDIA .There is also, traces of Yoruba link with people on Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon. In the middle East region, there are no mention of any other tribes apart from JEWISH LINK. Now, if some people claim Yoruba from Middle East, isn't correct? DNA has said all these. Even in sub Saharan Africa, there are DNA traces link with people. Someone like me, has gone far on the issue of this pseudo BINI link to Odu'a as from IGODOMIGODO . So, clear off your chest over identity of Oranmiyan Grandfather called Odu'a. Then, on your argument, on Yoruba not, hearing themselves, if you think it was true, what language did they use in transaction and communication among themselves? Is it because you have not been able to know Yoruba Language classification? Scholars who aren't Nigerians have defined which language is Yoruba Or Not. Better to infer dialectics of the same language or not according to language classification.
Let me inform you that international Language Assessment Conference (1992), only when a wordlist analysis shows a lexical similarity of below 70% are two speech forms considered to be different languages. An overlap of 70% and above indicates that both speech forms are the same language, although dialect intelligibility tests would need to be carried out to determine how well speakers of one dialect can understand the other speech form.
So, where did you get your information? When in fact, Owo, Ijebu, Ondo city, ilaje, Remo, Ijebu even some part of AKOKO Edo are classified as SOUTH EAST YORUBA Language. Be informed bro.
You have been claiming Igodo had a city before Yoruba invaded you people. Bring out the list of the so called Ogiso. And where did they come from before they settled in UDO? You seem to even forgot something, you called Africa as if Africa is a tribe. There are so many things that had happened and because People moved out of ancient times from Africa doesn't mean their mentality are the same. Take for instance, Bob Marley's mother was a Black woman, do you not know his father was IRISH WHITE? So, if story is written about many of his descendants history in the future, would it mentioned that BOB MARLEY'S PATRILINEAL LINEAGE as a Black man? Of course, not.
Lastly, on the reason, I cap some of my word is because, I am not in an examination. And we are just here expressing our opinions and giving out fact as it has been proven to the true in human history as it relates to YORUBA AND BINI. IGODO was nothing before Ogun's son ODÈDÈ ( Oranmiyan) emerged.

Olu317:
HISTORY OF BINI BRONZE CASTING

According to Bini tradition, brass-casting was introduced into Benin by medieval artists from Ife (Uhe) under Oba Oguola in about 1280. The Oba wanted works like those imported from Ife to be produced in Benin itself. He therefore sent to the Oghene of Uhe for a brass-smith and Igue-igha was sent to him. Igue-igha was very clever and left many designs to his successors and was in consequence deified and is worshipped to this day by brass-smiths. The practice of making brass castings for the preservation of the records of events was originated during the reign of Oguola. Oba Esigie (c.1504) encouraged and improved the brass work, and it is generally recognised that the art of Benin reached its prime in the sixteenth century. Ivory and wood carving were introduced by Oba Ewuare the great (c. 1440), while ivory flutes (akohen) were invented sometime after 1735 by a man called Ereoyen.

HOW WAS IT PRODUCED?
The bronzes are produced by what is known as the cire-perdu (lost-wax) process. A model is made - usually of clay - and covered with a layer of wax. If the object is very small the model is entirely of wax, A thin metal tube is attached to each end of the waxed model, and the whole encased in a lump of soft clay. When the clay has hardened, the molten metal is poured into the upper tube through a funnel. It runs down into the interior, filling the space occupied by the wax, while the melted wax flows out through the lower tube, hence the name lost-wax. When the metal has cooled the shell of clay is carefully broken and removed. The surface of the bronze is invariably rough, and has to be finished off with chisel and file. In cases of bad craftsmanship, holes may be left where the metal did not entirely fill the cavity. The clay in the interior is usually burnt quite black with the heat, and can be dug out comparatively easily.

WHERE CAN THE REPLICA OF THE METHOD OF PRODUCTION BE FOUND?
This technique has been recorded in many books, and there is a set of models in the British Museum showing various stages of the work. It is the method used in all West African bronze and brass industries.


YORUBA SCULPTURE

There is a vast difference between the ancient art of the Yorubas and their present-day work. Modern Yoruba art consists chiefly of wooden figures and masks. With its striking polychrome paintings, it is certainly very decorative, but it is on a lower artistic plane than the old classic stone sculpture in stone, terracotta and bronze. The old carvings in hard stone such as quartz and the old bronze castings are distinguished by an astonishing fidelity to nature, absolutely correct proportions and a lack of conventional features. The technique was excellent and the figures show a marked sense of beauty.
It is probably centuries since work of this kind was produced at Ife, but the antique masterpieces have never been forgotten. Bronze heads still stand in the palace of the Oni. On certain festivals they are removed by the priests and carried to the shrines. Dozens of beautiful terracotta heads were kept in a shrine outside the town until only a few years ago, when they were all stolen or broken. In Ife there is still a ram's head in granite, almost life-size, and ceremonial stools carved in single pieces from solid pieces of quartz. But it is the
terracotta sculpture (and bronzes) WHICH SHOW THE ART OF ANCIENT IFE AT ITS BEST. EVEN THE BENIN HEADS CANNOT COMPARE.

WHICH AMONG THE BRONZE CASTING IN ILE IFE AND BINI IS OLDER?

The age of the IFE HEADS has not yet been CONCLUSIVELY ASCERTAINED, but since it is PRACTICALLY CERTAIN THAT the BRONZE ART of BENIN WAS DERIVED FROM IFE, there is some data to work on. They FIRST CAME FROM IFE to BENIN about 1280, after which it must have taken some time for this CRUDE ART to develop into the masterpieces which we know, so that the BRONZE art of IFE CANNOT have reached its zenith till the thirteenth century at the earliest.

Although both in terra-cotta and bronze the ethnic characteristics of the models are well portrayed, the works resemble the sculpture of ancient Greece or Egyptian art , rather than the culture of black Africa.


You only made mockery of yourself because, you have not VISITED MANY PLACES. So deal with it.


you can visit when less busy or check it out at British Museum or visit :www.visual-arts-cork.com

If the whites don't acknowledge, your BINI without Yoruba history, what does it say about you? It simply meant, we married your Women and gave you HISTORY.
IF NEANDERTHALS WERE PRIMITIVE, THEN THANK GOD THAT THEY WERE THE ONES THAT DEVELOPED AND GAVE HUMANITY THE NEEDED TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT IT HAS TODAY.
LASTLY, YOU ARE NOT WELL STUDIOUS BECAUSE FULANI DIDN'T CALL US YORUBA BUT BERBER Scholar IN MAHLI CALLEd Ibñ Baba Ahmed in 16th CENTURY .FULANI SULTAN SAW IT IN THEIR AJAMI ABOUT YORUBA BEING DESCENDANTS OF CANAAN.

IT IS A BITTER PILL, SWALLOW IT WITH CALMNESS.

BINI TOO STUBBORN?
WHERE IN YOUR HISTORY DID THEY MENTIONED CALVARY WARRIORS?
WHERE IN BINI HISTORY DID SHE FIGHT REAL WAR?
WHY IS YOUR LANGUAGE GOING INTO EXTINCTION IF BINI WAS A POWERFUL KINGDOM ?
WHAT IS EVEN EDO POPULATION THAT YOU CLAIMED STUBBORNNESS TOWARD BRITISH ARMY ?
DID YOU NOT KNOW BRITISH EMPIRE WROTE OUT A TREATY FOR YORUBA TO SIGN AMONGST EKITIPARAPO AND IBADAN ARMY?

IF BINI WAS THAT STUBBORN, WHY DIDN'T HISTORY RECORD ITS MIGHT AGAINST EVEN EBIRA KINGDOM?

BINI was literally BEGGING OGEDENGBE AGBOGUNGBORO AND HIS CO WARRIOR , WHEN THEY WERE RAIDING PART OF EDO.
YOU NEED TO READ MORE TO BE WELL INFORMED WITH THE FACT.

GET IT TO YOUR HEAD, BRO.
ODUA DESCENDANT REPRESENT ALWAYS

Olu317:
You called Yoruba primitive? And it was clearly stated by Reich D and co other DNA analysis on YORUBA AND KHOISAN OF SOUTH AFRICA ,which identified them as the two proven African descents from SUBSAHARA AFRICA WITH NEANDERTHALS ANCESTORS.
Go and read more books to learn more on YORUBA Ethnicity and others . You can get a copy of; “Reich, D. et al. Genetic history of an archaic hominin group from Denisova Cave in Siberia."
DNA has been supporting Yoruba history of late even if some whites politicians don't like the truth. Their historians, archaeologists, ethnologists, also, those who study ethnography et al have been doing more research day and night on Yoruba history. Despite, the fact that
John Alfonso d'Aveiro (1485-86), and subsequently by several Portuguese, Dutch and English travellers came in contact with BINI. Have you not asked yourself this question;Why did a Fulani Sultan, a core Muslim leader,Arab descendant,call Yoruba, children of CANAAN? Why havent the whites done much about IGODO, if it truly exist?
YORUBA WAS EVEN PRONOUNCED AS DESCENDANTS OF ISRAEL BY A GERMAN EMERITUS PROFESSOR DIERK LANGE .
EDO history is interwoven with YORUBA. YORUBA SHAPED YOUR ADVANCEMENT And history.
LOOK AROUND YOU, WHICH ETHNICITY IS THE MOSTLY RESPECTED OUTSIDE NIGERIA?

PIECE OF ADVICE : go find more on BINI DNA traces to start with.

Go to British museum and see the replica of how Yoruba thought YOU(BINI) ART WORK.

Deal with the truth.

nisai:
AreaFada2

thornapple:
1. For the ladies:
You are a Lady with wonderful prospects and great suitors. You accepted the proposal of a man that seems the best for you only to discover after your wedding that he is impotent.

2. For the guys:
You worked hard all your life to get to where you are today. You could've decided to remain single for a while and catch some fun but for the love of family decided to marry. You got married to a lady of your choice who made you believe is the most decent to start a family with. Several months afterwards it was discovered she was barren resulting from multiple abortions due to a promiscuous life she lived before you met.

What will you do given either of these situations?.

Mayflowa:
Jonathan has all the instruments to alter the course of Nigeria. [b] When he came, the people were ready to cooperate with him [/b]until he allowed wide spread looting under his nose. I blame GEJ for the recession indirectly.

Without him messing up, who would hv allowed Buhari to snuff the life out of all of us. So you believe there are no great leaders to change the fortune of the country? Think again!

Joavid:
Your story isn't exactly coherent. perhaps you wrote it under duress.

Going by what you wrote, she started cheating after you refused to give her the 2million or help her get the loan.
and the reason why you refused to give her the 2million is because nothing has come out of the previous business you financed for her.


Oga adam500hr, you did not marry a wife material. You married someone who's emotionally and psychologically immature with a huge sense of entitlement.

Mayflowa:
The people own the power. Don't focus on conspiracy. If you did a wonderful job, the people would fight to die for you. Period.

Splashme:
The conspiracies and gang-up of 2015 elections will take Nigeria two decades to heal the wounds

And for Obama . . . .

[b]Nemesis just caught up with him. The bulldozer Donald Trump is equally dismantling all his legacies beginning with his baby - The Obamacare[/b]