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Trying to understand buacement too. Sold most of my shares that changed from CCNN to Buacement when the price hit N80 as I could not fundamentally see what was pushing it to N80 or will support it at that price. sterlingD: |
That's all Nigerian Tier 1 Banks and Top Tier 2 banks are exposed since 2013. It will help their forex (and translated Naira) balance sheets if all goes well. And could be a negative exposure if the project ends up a total failure. Now the project has suffered major delays and some are speculating it will take a couple more years to go live. Without the NNPC bail out by equity participation, it would have created major stresses. MonkeyHunter: |
https://mmsplusng.com/blog/amcon-may-take-over-dangote-refinery-as-liabilities-swell/ Hope this will not hit some bank profits with impairment charges. Which banks are exposed to Dangote Refinery debt ? |
OBAGADAFFI:I contacted Coronation registrars before this your post via web forms. I am very impressed from the response I got from them today. That the payment I got was was for my "outstanding dividends of diamond bank before merger". They surely must have a high level of integrity unlike some other registrars. And must have an excellent set of records. I am so impressed because it is over a decade old and I never went out looking for it. |
So much movement in registrars. Looks like Centurion were the last registrars for Diamond Bank. Then United Securities took over on acquisition by ACCESS Bank. And its now Coronation Registrars in charge. Let me get in touch with Coronation. BabsO2: |
Guess as much not to take him too seriously. megawealth01: |
I thought so as well. They reconstructed about 10 Diamond Bank Shares to 2.858 Access Bank Shares. Called Centurion ended no one picked. Ended up in an answering machine. OBAGADAFFI: |
My question is related to former Diamond bank shares. Just trying to see if anyone knows about it's "DIAMOND-PAYMENT 1 OF 31". Saves me time of digging for info on its former registrar or transitioned registrar and details of completed or outstanding due transactions relating to former Diamond Bank share holders. Looks like your mind is off on a wrong tangent. My question has nothing to do with offering any product or marketing any scheme. locodemy: |
Please does anyone know about "DIAMOND-PAYMENT 1 OF 31" to be paid today, what it is about. |
Hot money from where. Or is it due to hope of increased oil prices trickling down to PAT's and strategic investors being more confident to take position in grossly under-valued stocks. samguru: |
https://thenationonlineng.net/banks-to-lend-nnpc-3-9b-for-equity-in-dangote-refinery/ I hope this is not further risk exposure to Nigerian Banks. Should anything happen to oil prices in the coming years. |
emmanuelewumi:The 2020 PE ratios for Okomo and Presco are 11.6 and 13.7 respectively. I don't have their 3 year earnings growth rate. Indeed Okomu seem to perform better than PRESCO looking at one year earnings growth rate and PE. With Top Nigerian Banks like GTB having PE ratios of about 4 (and less for the other big banks) it makes this PRESCO and Okomu currently appear unattractive. |
emmanuelewumi:PRESCO and OKOMU Stock price looks currently over priced. As most likely those currently in the bus don't want to part with their shares. Let me crunch my spreadsheet to see if current prices are a fair entry point. How do you rate their current prices ? |
emmanuelewumi:Is it Okitipupa Oil Palm PRESCO wants to buy ? That looks like a mature Asset. However it all depends on price of purchasing it and them converting the investment to returns. With the kind of Know How PRESCO and OKOMU have I have no doubt they will do a good job in exploiting Okitipupa Oil palm that is currently failed to generate good returns. |
This Zenith wants to leave N23. Abeg come back there today or tomorrow or latest next week. After all it appears there are more trying to sell than those trying buy based on those that have shown up in the market. But those of the sidelines we don't know which side them dey. yMcy56: |
Nigeria is still punching far below its weight in palm oil production. There is room for expansion. I think most of the growth in PRESCO and OKOMU revenues comes from new trees planted fruiting. Yes some illusionary growth will come from increasing Naira prices of their processed products mostly as a result of inflation. To an investor this illusionary growth of riding with inflation counts as it maintains the purchasing power of the investors returns over time. But if there are no new lands to acquire and expand upon, a source of investor funds growth is muted. That's my thought based on the fact that they even revalued their assets at one time based on the facts that their palm tree seedlings are now oil producing trees. Hence if you cannot repeat that aspect of expanding area cultivated, shareholder funds and dividends will not enjoy that fantastic growth. The business will enter a plateau and sooner or later a decline phase if there is woeful management. emmanuelewumi: |
Or an investor that got N21,060 from PRESCO in 2009 as dividends and without adding a further penny in investments earned N140,400 in dividends in 2020. This is real data ! And earned something every year in between 2008 and 2020 in a way that trended up gradually will believe in the Stocks in the Stockmarket run by good management. Thanks to the management of PRESCO (I think Belgian led) running a successful agric business exploiting palm trees due to the comparative advantage of palm tree flourishing in Edo State. I pray we have more companies run by good and prudent management on the NSE. I glanced recently at their annual report to see what's up. How they returned so much value to me. Was not surprised they invest in R & D. emmanuelewumi: |
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emmanuelewumi:A good society needs savings/investments to grow the society. Smart people do not eat all their seeds but plant some in expectation of a good reward. It is a cycle for creating wealth both for the individual and the society. Passive income is the reward of the person or society that does not consume all its seeds. |
emmanuelewumi:Anyhow you paint it. This is the reasoning behind why some Naija people run businesses aground. I get what you are saying loud and clear. And please do not take this as a personal attack. But it is the same similar thoughts that run in the minds of Nigerians that run businesses down. They believe owners are not due anything while they are sleeping and they are working. I do not see dividends like awuf money, but more as my reward for venturing into the business and not chopping my money completely in the first place. |
emmanuelewumi:Is this why some of you run companies aground or refuse to pay shareholders. Or even outright damage other peoples business. As you think shareholders getting dividend is like awuf money. what about the sweat used to accumulate money to use in buying the shares or setting up a company. Now I understand what some Nigerians think when they damage other peoples business. They think na them dey work, why should the owner get anything. |
The amount of offer to sell Zenith on a daily basis exceed the amount of bids. often times offer to sell doubles bid to buy. Ordinarily this should make the price of Zenith to drop. But I just don't understand why the price is now stuck on N23. While UBA has more bids than offer but the price is not going up soon. For fear of poor dividends. Or is it fear of Audio results. Lion123: |
Chai. This Otudeko na big thief. emmanuelewumi: |
Otudeko out is the big change. Hope he will be forced to forgo his First Bank shares to pay for any outstanding non performing loans he has. May not be bad for those of us in this bus. In fact returns may be better in the next one year. ukay2: |
I entered at N1.30 this January. I hope I will be able to Jump out with a profit. jijo Though I am still trapped right from the IPO days.locodemy: |
locodemy:Looking closely at what shareholders are getting. It is very low. The Non Controlling Shares folk are taking the profit and retail NSE investors at the moment are still making a loss in comprehensive income. Hope in coming quarters this will reverse. |
OBAGADAFFI:But GTB still grew deposits faster than other big banks last year except for UBA that grew the most (perhaps due to foreign ops). What else can one use to measure reliability or likeability of service than rate of deposit growth ? |
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/33077_GUARANTY_TRUST_BANK_PLC%20_QUARTER_1_%20_FINANCIAL_STATEM.pdf GTB profits have dropped by 10%. Traced to a huge drop in interest income. Will be interesting to see the review of the analysts from the broking houses. Stock prices may dip in the coming days and weeks especially if Zenith follows with a similar pattern of results. UBA results will be seen more as audio profits . Till UBA shakes body and pay correct dividends in line with reported profits like GTB and Zenith that pay nearly half of profits in dividends. |
By Tuesday 20th Elephant will fall down 45 kobo for Dividend and Access should be ahead once again. FBNH can only catch Access if it shakes body and pay more dividends. With last year results they have a tie in Book Value Per Share of N21 with Access ahead in Earning Per Share based on bank operations and far ahead using consolidate numbers for computing earnings per share. Where are Q1 reports (estimates) of performance. The market should speed them up based on this. Or increased interest rates may mute a price rises. yMcy56: |
samguru:This is chicken change compared to the emoluments of First Bank directors that run into billions of naira every year. That bank has the highest paid directors in the whole of the banking industry. |
UBN - Union Bank was supposed to pay their tiny dividend yesterday 13th. But I didn't get it. What is wrong with this poor performing stock ? |
Sterling Bank Better than ETI with a dividend of 0 Kobo every year. BIGGER SHAME Lion123: |
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. Till UBA shakes body and pay correct dividends in line with reported profits like GTB and Zenith that pay nearly half of profits in dividends.