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Buhari has simply confirmed what so many of being saying, which is there has been corruption in ALL govts in in Nigeria. Yet Buhari and the ACP keep trying to give the impression that it's only the GEJ govt that somehow destroyed the Nation.

The Halliburton file is with the FG. The Americans have already investigate, persecuted and convicted people on it. If Buhari is REALLY SERIOUS about changing this country then that is a good place to start. Charge the Halliburton bribe takers to court, send out a message that NOBODY is above the law.

For all those of you who support Buhari and can see nothing wrong in what he does, please understand, as long as Buhari does not cut down the 'Big Men' his govt will ultimately fail. This is because they will block any real meaningful efforts at change. We all know who the 'Big Men' are in Nigeria. These people have Senators , judges, security personal on their indirect payrolls. They have done so much damage to this country for DECADES yet Buhari only wants to focus on GEJ.

GEJ has no ambition anymore O. The man is happy to be traveling around enjoying his life. The 'BIG MEN' however never have enough, they want to continue to control and suck Nigeria dry. If Buhari does not confront them and take them down once and for all he only has himself to blame, for just like in 1985, they will ultimately destroy his govt.

Dbboy:
Some people are talking rubbish here who should we blame if not buhari, when The Great GEJ was there they said he was clueless yet the economy grew at 7% now with there sophisticated du-llard of a president he has set Nigeria back to 2.5% ask any business man now in Nigeria,cash flow in business has reduced yet we are singing praises to this duara man that knows nothing but to make noise about probe, abi na probe we go chop. Let him wake up and come tell us the economic plan he has for us.

My brother the level of IGNORANCE and straight out semi-illiteracy among a lot of Nigerians is truly staggering.

I challenge people to go and compare both Bill Clinton and Obama when they were fist elected. In both cases (1992 and 2008) the US economy was in trouble, during the elections both man put forward their DETAILED economic plans and once they were sworn in they got down to work implementing those plans. During the elections the plans were debated extensively and everybody know the direction that would be followed.
It is clear Buhari has no such plan. In almost three months he has not found it necessary to even convene an economic summit, to bring together talent from business, industry and finance to help give input on the way forward.
Nobody is saying don't fight corruption, but corruption is not the ONLY issue the country is facing.
Obama had to deal with an economy on the verge of collapse, two wars going wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan and the ever present threat of terror on the homeland, as well as fight to keep his promise of health care reform. He focused on ALL of them at the same time and moved forward on all. Multi tasking is what a President does!

Buhari is displaying a worrying aloofness on the economy. All the forecasts are for the price of oil to remain subdued through 2016, he needs to put together an economic team without delay and start to fashion out policies to deal with the coming economic crash.

Only those who have never seen war, call for war

Buhari supporters have told us not to worry, that ministers are not important. So let's sit and watch how their great leader will run the entire FG with perm secs.
BTW how's the Niara done since May 30th??

It's very simple. As long as the south is divided the North will continue to rule.

GEJ did his things quietly and achived results.

The Imam of Daura is just making noise all over the place with nothing to show for it.

2019 gets closer everyday

Change!!!!!

Lai Mohamed will not see this one!

Buhari will no see this one!

Oshimole will not see this one!

Na GEJ name matter they go hala from morning till midnight. APC All progressive craze people!

The games go on.

Larmode is corrupt and fed fat under the last govt. When Buhair came in he suddenly woke up and 'saw the light' and started probing left right and center. The senate is the political arm of the looters and mafia's and they now want to hit back at Larmode. Don't think they are doing this out some sort of patriotic zeal. As always it's about selfish interest.

When Bishop Kukah was trying to speak sense, stupid, ignorant, brainless Buharists were coming here to rain insults on the man. Buhari can spend the next 4 years chasing stolen money he'll only meet with failure. That's the reality of things. He should focus on putting strucures and personal in place to ensure that going forward theses type of things do not happen again, and by all means where there is evidence prosecute those that he can, but DO NOT make chasing looted funds the be all and end all.

tete7000:
Hypocrisy is the biggest problem Nigeria has. Obasanjo came into power, people jettisoned his presidential tittle, called him baba (as if na him born them) and went ahead to tell him that without him Nigeria will come to a standstill. As far as they are concerned only him has the requisite experience to make nigeria great. Consequently, he rode roughshod on all of us, he abused people on national media at will and when it was time to go he connived with some to change constitution and get a third term. He eventually left after installing those he consider stooge and even after leaving power he himself couldn't recover from hype created about him while in power. He insanely goes around accusing everyone else of corrupttiin but himself. So sad.

Jonathan came in, he got surrounded by sycophants too to the extent that he became totally inure to all crimes being perpetrated around him.

It is Buhari's time and the slogan now is that he is the only incorruptible man on planet earth. Whatever he does as far as his sycophants are concerned he is immuned to mistake and he cannot err. If he chooses to take the entire four years to form a cabinet and keep Nigeria at standstill, it doesn't matter. In buhari we now have not another President but another 'baba' in the mode of Obasanjo. He is free to roughshod over us, neglect constitutional provision and at the end of the day cleanse us of our corrupt tendency while he himself sits down there and gradually slide into dictatorship, a terrible form of corruption. What a people we are, we glory in human worship and turn our leaders to deities only worthy of our worship.

The funds spent on your education was money well spent!!

lurther:
Are you guys sure that Tunde Fowler is Tinubu's candidate?

Saharareporters attacked Tunde fowler yesterday and today the nation is attacking Buhari that he is running a one man show.

To the best of my knowledge Tunde fowler resigned as LIRS last year to contest for governorship election and he was denied and stopped by Tinybu who preffered ambode.

Are you sure the same way Tinubu is attacking fashola so as not to get a job from PMB is not the same way Tinubu is using to others he has fallen apart with.

PMB is picking Tinub's former boys that are now his enemies like Tunde fowler. I am sure fashola and fayemi will make PMB cabinet.

Tinubu would be cut to size. People should just watch out.

I was thinking the exact the same thing, the way Shara quickly started attacking Tunde Fowler, there was no way he could be Tinubu's candidate. Now with this article in The Nation it is clear that Tinubu is getting angry with PMB

hedonistic:
Don't sit in your middle class bubble and imagine that all is well with the world. Many Nigerians would be further impoverished if the fuel subsidy regime is discontinued, for the simple reason that removal of subsidy will lead to higher and higher pump prices. This in turn would lead to higher prices of goods and services, including higher transport fares and higher price of foodstuff and associated items.

With the already weak purchasing power of the poor Nigerian masses and struggling lower end of the middle class (who collectively make up the majority), such pressures will entrench poverty across the land.

We know that structures and processes don't work normally in Nigeria, so all the beautiful talk about allowing 'market forces' to regulate the price of fuel is nonsense. This same argument was advanced for diesel. Since subsidy was discontinued for diesel many years ago, how come the price has always been increasing endlessly, regardless of the price of crude in the international markets? This same thing would happen with PMS, because the oil marketers in Nigeria operate as a cartel with the sole aim of colluding to rip off consumers. There will never be anything like a free market or competitive pricing in the marketing and sale of PMS if subsidies are removed. The masses would suffer for it.

and so what? Is the current corruption ridden subsidy regime actually helping the masses? The billions spent on Subsidy could go into critical infrastructure development that would help alleviate the rise in pump price.

Understand one thing, the country is damn broke! Hard times await and people need to trim their coat and bear it.

So all those eWarriors who were calling themselves 'Occupy Nigeria' and fighting GEJ when he tried to remove subsidy, do you know accept you were wrong? No whala?

Does Buhari no understand what is Subsidy?

Why cant he put his son in on of the university and he showcase his talent?

Even his Grand father has a university in Edo state, but of course that's not good enough for the family.

allanphash7:
Rubbish i thought we have some univeristies in Edo state?














Nigeria sucks





Politician enrolling their children in Internationa school since d day of Adam while our own children experience sub standard quality of education




Rubbish once again







Am i FTC?





Oh ! Where is lady F and introvert?




Its fun anyway

OZAOEKPE:
PMB, why the discrimination, look at the second pic, why is that main seat empty, during jonathan era, sambo was allowed to sit there when his "oga" was not around. But our houseboy VP is being denied that right.

Ah my brother don't joke Fulani man and power O! They understand completely how to deploy power, and of those things is the 'symbol of power' Just as nobody but an Emir would sit on an Emir's throne, so for a Fulani president, nobody but the president will sit on the presidential seat. That is how their mind works.

Nigeria needs RADICAL measures to save it. The international oil markets are not predicting oil of more than $60 right up to 2017. That is about half of what Nigeria needs to balance it's books. The maths is simple we either need to find other sources of revenue or slash expenditure. The next few years will be very interesting indeed

A gentleman, who will only truly be appreciated in time.

He did his best for the country but was surrounded by demons and devils. There were no political killings during his time, no abuse of power, he could have used the power at his disposal to cling onto power, but instead chose the path of honor. For that singular act alone, Goodluck Jonathan will always be a hero and an untypical African

NoRetreat:
when did Oshiomole become the spokesman of the FGN. Oshiomole has been having mouth diarhorea recently maybe he has just got married sha.

All Osho baba's mouth vomitting can be directly linked to the the immediate period after he married Lara. I am telling you guys, he is suffering the after effects of using too much Viagra. That stuff is only supposed to be used in small does but becasue Osho wants to keep Lara happy he's taking overdoes and it's making him go mad!!

Splashme:
Effect of an illiterate govt in Aso Rock

We are being mocked by the international community. This is not good, and will not give investors confidence. I really do hope Buhari understands this and gets a credible minster of finance in place ASAP

Sunday8650:
Am advocating a stronger stance on corruption from the public irrespective of party affiliation. When a step is commendable we should support it not because it was not propose by your party but because it is just.

When you see no good in a man nothing good will come out of him. Because i don't like Jonathan automatically his policies becomes wrong in my eyes. Even though it is a just policy.

We are in the times were critics are base on party affiliation instead of national and collective interest.

That is what is rampant on nairaland and other social platforms

Calm down, I feel your passion and it's highly commendable. For your information, I don't support any party. Honestly I don't know how any right thinking Nigerian can claim to be a party supporter seeing how ALL parties have looted this great country into the ground.

Additionally please don't take my stance as criticism or attack on Buhari. People need to rise above this and accept that on national issues, we can take different sides of an issue that does not mean it's an 'attack'

I take your point on national interest entirely and that's what I am trying to argue here. If you deeply read my posts with you, you will understand that I am not even referring to Buhair, GEJ or whoever. What I am simply talking about is what's the best way to go about the fight against corruption while, ensuring that due process is followed and the independence of the 3 arms of govt as laid down by the constitution is maintained.

Now you propose that the issue here is that we have a lot of corrupt judges in Nigeria. Guess what? I agree 100% with you. However where we disagree is how to proceed. You say that Buhari should be allowed to select 'honest' judges to try the corruption cases. I disagree because that would break the independence of the judiciary and set a very dangerous precedence for the future.

I think a better way forward, would be for the EFCC and ICPC to be instructed to launch a quick blitz on the judiciary. I am certain the very corrupt judges are known within the profession. It would not be hard to focus internally on a few of them, seize their excess properties, freeze their accounts...etc. While this is happening the NSA or head of DSS could summon the Chief judge of the federation and the 36 state chief judges and tell them to pass onto all the other judges a simple message. You are being watched. Your accounts and those of your close family are being monitored, the govt is about to start anti corruption cases, if you like take bribe, we will now and you'll be arrested. This way the independence of the judiciary is maintained, but the judges will now think twice before taking any bribes. To go further the security agencies could even arrange some 'sting' operations, where undercover agents actually offer bribes to some judges to catch them out. Trust me once a few a caught like this the rest will sit up and do their job properly because ultimately Nigerians are cowards.

The late great Dora Akunyli practically eliminated fake drugs from Nigeria and she never had to cross the law to do it. I am confident that with similar leadership our anti corruption agencies can do the same with the ALL branches of govt in Nigeria.

Sunday8650:
1. There is no question. Of " IF", You know and I know we have corrupt judges in the helm of power.

2. This judges have a way of influencing public sentiment and regional aggression through their sponsors.

3. Our own senate is filled with corrupt lawmakers from both APC and PDP

4. You can not fight corruption with a pampered hand of the law. The very law you defend can be interpreted by any judge to suite the situation as it arises

5. When you put a pot on fire everything inside the pot feels the heat as the pot itself. True fight against corruption will reflect on all parties including APC and PDP. When EFCC was on the fore front on the fight against corruption even ACN were very cautious not to associate with corrupt individuals. The only hatred some people on this forum have for apc its because of the alliance with cpc and anpp

6.If all fabric of a nation is affected by corruption the only logical thing to do is to be cautious of who handles the process of eradicating that corruption. Buhari have state it clearly he is not after anybody he only wants the stolen funds return either willingly or by the sword of justice.

7. Now his only desire is that the person or body who handles that sword is upright and credible to give the process credibility.

Quite a lot of points, I conceed, but none change the simple fact that the LAW MUST BE FOLLOWED AT ALL TIMES.

If you are saying that the body politic of the Federal Republic of Nigeria is now so rotten and corrupted that it can't be relied upon to effectively dispense justice(Which seems to the case from your seven points above) then the only logical conclusion is that the current constitution and the 4th republic need to be suspended, emergency rule brought in and the whole stable cleaned out. Is that what you are advocating?

Habakus:
when you guys decide to make public your opinion on issues,learn to think deeply and logically; it really doesn't take much to do. Infact it's a way of excercising the brain. You shouldn't just be supporting someone brashly without recourse to critical analysis and thinking. Do you know the implications of suspending the constitution,even if it's in a bid to fight corruption? Don't you know that it's a perfect recipe for dictatorship and tyranny? Have you considered the kind of precedence it will be for future governments;or you think Buhari will be president forever? Think.

May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you wise and healthy. The funds your parents spent educating you were truly monies well spent. Well done!!

What you wrote is very similar to something I wrote in another thread. People are jumping up and down now saying things like 'Buhari choose your own judges to try the corrupt people, suspend their rights, desperate times require desperate measures......etc' They forget, as you so correctly said, that Buhari will not be forever. if we start to tinker with the constitution today in order to 'fight corruption', what will happen tomorrow, when it's no longer Buhari there? We must all work within the limits of the law. The law is there to protect everybody.

DeRoyalFranco:
Wasnt there the time u guys were spending money together... Next news abeg.

My brother no mind the gal. When the going was good, she dey follow am fleece all the mumu followers. No that kati kati don enter she's trying to make herself out as some kind of 'victim of abuse'. Typical female hypocrite.

if I my add madam:

Another lesson you should learn in life, is that grabbing millions upon millions from gullible followers (Tithes, First fruit, endless 'sowing') is no guarantee of happiness on earth.

Sunday8650:
you have vehemently supported corruption. Corruption has entered the very fabric of our daily lives. You can't fight corruption without hurting even your family. It is wise to seek an upright judge than to assume every judge is righteous unless proven otherwise.

Buhari is doing the right thing any just man who wishes to fight corruption irrespective of party affiliation will do. Both APC and PDP have corrupt judges in their palm.

If buhari is witch hunting the opposition by now he would have appointed all his ministers from APC recommendations but he refuse to accept any candidate. What more should this man do to appease you people. His government is not an APC or PDP government it is one he is building on his integrity

I am sorry but you are very wrong. I am in no way supporting corruption, what I am supporting is CORRECT DUE PROCESS.

Please consider this simple fact, Buhari will not be president for ever. Whatever he does now can and will be used as a precedence by future govts. If a President is allowed to select the judges he wants for certain cases, what happens if tomorrow it's the PDP that are back in power? What would you then say if the a PDP govt started selecting judges for cases against ACP members, or cases where for example a PDP person's election was being challenged.
Nigerians MUST start to understand that is is PROCESS and INSTITUTIONS that make a country great, not individuals. As I've stated in my previous write up, if there are corrupt judges on the bench, by all means remove them, but the INDEPENDENCE of the judiciary must be maintained else we are in a dictatorship.

This is the kind of the mentality that belongs in a Army govt.

Nigerians need to be very careful cheering every move like this, which is in fact an assault on democratic tenants. In a democracy there is supposed to be separation between the Executive, legislative, and judicial branches. That is how checks and balances work.
ALL judges are supposed to impartial and honest. By all means if there is evidence of corruption against a judge, then such a judge should be suspended and charged accordingly, but for the govt to charge people, and then also look for specific judges to judge the case, I am sorry that is no longer democratic.
I've got no problem with corrupt people being tried, but we MUST follow all due process to do it and maintain democratic best practices. Failure to do that will only give more ammunition to those who do not want the fight against corruption to succeed for their won selfish reasons.

Ask the following people please:
Buhari
Babangida
Shagari
Gowon
Danjuma
Abubakar
Atiku
They should be able to answer your questions

The simple truth is that a president has MANY roles to furfil. Right now Buhari seems to be pee-occupied with 'corruption'. Well meaning people are starring to notice that this is becoming an obsession to the detriment of other spheres of govt. All Buhari needs to do is appoint people he trusts to head the ant-corruption agencies, appoint a credible Attorney General, give these people their marching orders, and then get on with attending to the many other massive problems the country faces.
Also we must not be naive. We wish this country works like the US or Uk, but it does not. This is Nigeria. If Buhari really goes after GEJ and the PDP looters, then he ALSO HAS to go after Ammechi, Tinubu and every other ACP looter. Trust me this country will explode if only GEJ has his cronies are being hounded. That is just the truth of the matter. Now please tell me how does Buhari go against Amechi and Tinubu when they'll turn round and say 'Baba the funds you are querying us on where what was used to fund your nomination and campaign'. What happens are that point? How did he think his campaign was funded.
This is why I've always been a bit dubious about all Buhari's anti-corruption talk. It always seems selective. Til this day he has never acknowledged that Abacha was corrupt simply because, he served in that govt.

nnachukz:
I can feel their frustration. The hard currencies they easily loot our money in, can no longer be accepted in the bank for onward transfer to foreign hidden accounts.

You do not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Not all fx deposits are from looters, there are quite a lot of people who need to transfer FX for viable business or personal reasons, policy makers need to think carefully before implementing new policies.

Probe and jail ANYONE who has stolen public funds. Weather the are North or South, PDP or ACP it should not matter.

Where Buhari will face a BIG problem is if the probes are seen to be only targeted at PDP.

I wish Buhari strength and wisdom to clean up this country.

Much as I detest corruption and want to see all corrupt officials jailed, I don't think Obasanjo is the person we should listen to. The man is a complete and total hypocrite and very very vindictive. He has nothing good to say about anybody and think he's God. Buhari should ignore him complexly

As a country we need to start being a land of strong laws and process and not strong men (Quoting Obama) The law is simple. If there is evidence of corruption against GEJ, the relevant agencies should investigate it and if there is sufficient grounds, then he should be charged accordingly. It really should not be down to Buhari to decide weather anybody is investigated or not. This should also apply to ALL former leaders not just GEJ