Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 6:08pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
peacengine: We eat our cake and have it, we rule the world yet we still have loving wives cooking our meals and warming our beds we also have them taking care of the kids while we work It's a man's world  Well if we follow the theory that says women love cooking and house keeping according to Esther Vilar and co, I think men have the short end of the stick. You rule the world and don't have a bond with your kids... browse NL to see several threads laments the 'thankless' job of fatherhood. A wife cooks & cleans and care of her kids (doing what she loves) and still get to be made love to. (Studies on NL say women enjoy love making more than men) Perhaps girls actually rule your world.  @Having kids when you want: The older you are, the older the quality of sperm And I am sure an average man doesn't want kids in his old age. You don't want to do school runs @ 60, do you? |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 6:04pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Pidggin: You should know, you are also a lady, you ought to know a sister or two in such a situation. Are you saying a woman should freeze her eggs as a backup in the event she has issues conceiving? |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:52pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
peacengine: This is why women will never be equal to men. You can't eat your cake and have it, some sacrifices have to be made, if all women want to be mothers that is perfect, but you will loose out on participating in things outside the home e.g politics, and other occupations that require your time. This is why the argument that a woman's place is in the home, you cannot be the president and at the same time have to cook for your husband and kids, accept your place as kitchen minders and baby making machines  I am yet to see anyone who 'eats' his/her cake and have it. Perfect mothers? Don't think it is achievable. And I am sure some 'Presidents' will still be able to tend their homes in addition to ruling the world. |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:46pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Pidggin: I am talking to those who can't have them now due to circumstances beyond their control. @Bold such as... |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:45pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
postmann: Don't know what to say. But this topic coming from a female, indicates maybe things isn't as hopeless as they seem.
The moral is simple: There is a price to pay for every action. If you're ambitious whether male or female reconcile yourself to the cost.
When it's all done, you wouldn't need anyone to tell you what should have been, where you lost it, what you traded for material gratification , and how it wasn't worth it.
With the material gratification and wealth, the soul ended its journey unfulfilled still. @Bold: True Again, I would also say it is important to be able to prioritize and plan appropriately. |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:41pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Pidggin: Freeze your eggs ladies Well, Why would I want to freeze my eggs when I can have them now and bounce back in future? hypothetically. |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:39pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
LewsTherin: Human society has been patriarchal in nature from the very beginning whether you subscribe to God or evolution. The men provide and protect, the women nurture and preserve. The modern woman's desire to change that is not going to happen in 3 or 4 generations whether you subscribe to God or evolution.
While I admire and support the modern woman's desire to get more from life, I still believe her primary role is to nurture and preserve.
The meaning of "women and children first" is basically "keep the tribe and the human race from extinction" The bold brings a question... Didn't/Did the women of old get more from life (according to their times)? |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:36pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
crackhaus: So you people don't want to delay marriage and pregnancy anymore? I thought career-oriented independent women could get any man they desired at any age, and get pregnant/give birth even at 50yrs of age and above? Una don change am for us again...
People grounded in reality have always known the truths, it's women who fill their head with illusions that come for our necks when we tell them to pay attention to their biological clocks. Unlike men, women usually don't taste or get more attractive with age...sorry to say. Nature's a sure b!tch, ain't it? @Bold: I find 'you people' especially when you cannot pinpoint a post where I made/implied the bolded very irritating and  . It does nothing to help the discourse. @ 2nd paragraph: Unfortunately, life is not all white and black so people intend to marry earlier and do so later; people marry early and TTC for long; people marry early and it does not work out; people marry late and they seem to have it all. I also believe there is a role destiny has to play. I am also sure you would advocate a woman has a job/ source of income before marriage. What now happens when a lady serves at 29 and does not get a job immediately? |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 5:30pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
cococandy: This I believe they can learn from observing their parents' relationship. There's only so much that words can do if the examples set for them are poor. You can't teach your kids (with words) that it takes love and selflessness to build a strong home when they can actually see there's no love between the parents. Also extremely true |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 4:55pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
LewsTherin: Shocker! Bukatyne's daughter is 20 years!! Bukatyne is of the hippie generation?
Oh wait. It's not her own story. Sorry. Lemme finish reading.
(Those were the thots that went thru my head)  Lols! Maybe it is my story  |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 4:54pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
cococandy: @topic.
Typical Consequences of being extremist. Very True |
Family › Re: Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 2:35pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
I found this interesting and debatable  |
Family › Don't Delay Pregnancy: D'oh! by bukatyne(op): 2:35pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Just over a decade ago, I wrote a book whose main theme was about the cost of delaying marriage and motherhood to my generation of women. We'd grown up in the 1970s and '80s, during a period when our mothers were casting off their marriages like old dresses; entering the workforce for the first time in huge numbers; and the feminist movement was decreeing that men were as necessary to women as bicycles are to fish. The message to us was clear and unwavering: Don't waste your time getting married young like we did. In fact, don't waste your time getting married, period. Put off having children until later. MUCH later. Focus on your education and then your career. It's in your work that you will find your identity and achieve your independence; it's from your work that you are going to derive the most satisfaction in life. And it was upon your work, not a man, which you could depend to support you in the long haul (hey, they was boom times). Marriage, kids -- those are afterthoughts. Things to be considered down the road, if at all. The lesson we eventually drew, however, was quite different. Urged to "celebrate our sexuality" with multiple partners throughout our 20s, many of us became acquainted with rather less celebrated aftershocks: STDs, abortion, "commitment issues," and maybe most of all, loneliness. Much as we might try, we could not reprogram our hearts. The majority of women continued to express the desire to marry and become mothers (at least in anonymity to pollsters; it was not something you'd admit to your girlfriends). But we still had no idea how we were going to achieve these things -- how to fit them in with our careers? How to fit them in with our so-called independent identities? And how to fit them in before... we couldn't? That was the kicker. If you stumbled along this way into your 30s, suddenly you found yourself looking around and wondering where the men went. And just as we couldn't reprogram our hearts, we discovered that we couldn't reprogram our biology either. Babies? Did someone just say babies? Where? Where?! Thus many of us found ourselves making the accidental journey into single motherhood, reproductive technology, and adoption. My eldest daughter is now 20. I began researching my book before she could read. In the space of time since my book was published and she has grown up, I've watched her generation shake off the stigmas attached to marriage and motherhood. Traditional weddings, with all the trimmings, have become fashionable again. She and her friends don't hide their delight with babies and small children (I remember me and my friends rolling our eyes at such behavior). And they talk seriously about how they will mesh their careers (because of course they will have them, economy permitting) with marriage and motherhood. And yet, they seem to be as perplexed as we were about how to do so -- to "have it all." My daughter cites Beyoncé as an inspiration. True, celebrities of Beyoncé's stature in my time weren't singing about "what we leave behind" (at least beyond our staplers and investment portfolios): I was here I lived, I loved I was here I did, I've done, everything that I wanted And it was more than I thought it would be I will leave my mark so everyone will know I was here I want to say I lived each day, until I die And know that I meant something in, somebody's life The hearts I have touched, will be the proof that I leave That I made a difference, and this world will see ...or lifetime monogamy (as in "1 Plus 1"  : Hey! I don't know much about guns but I... I've been shot by you Hey! And I don't know when I'm gonna die, but I hope that I'm gonna die by you Hey! And I don't know much about fighting, but I, I know I will fight for you Hey! Just when I ball up my fist I realize that I'm laying right next to you But I do notice that parents will spend thousands of dollars, if they have them, researching colleges for their children; we will spend hours agonizing over every grade, every step our children take towards setting themselves up for a career. But how many hours do we spend talking to them about how and what it means to share a life with someone? About the selflessness and generosity it takes to be a wife or husband, a mother or father -- and that such selflessness and generosity are not stifling things, nor are they identity crushing things? Indeed, these are the very qualities that will lead to the most enlarging and enriching experiences of our lives. I know parents who will speak frankly to their 12-year-olds about how to use a condom -- but would shy from "asserting" any advice about marriage or motherhood. And yet the latter advice is desperately and urgently needed, more so than ever. Now another study has just come out confirming what should by this point be the obvious: that postponing pregnancy too long has its perils. The [study] says some women may be waiting too long to start their families, perhaps because they over-estimate their chances of successfully conceiving with fertility treatments, if the need arises. It says women in their 20s and 30s need better reproductive counselling so that they have an accurate grasp of what waiting to start their families does to their chances of conceiving. "Better" reproductive counselling. Yes, that's what needed. Sure. And maybe "better" and more realistic life counselling as well. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/danielle-crittenden/dont-delay-pregnancy-doh_b_1101651.html |
Family › Re: A Must Read Four Couples Especially Women. by bukatyne(f): 8:58am On Mar 23, 2016 |
amokeme: All you needed was financial assistance and not a husband. I'm sorry but that's what this write up is insinuating.
In your story, "prevelege of a husband" = financial provider for both your children and yourself. You need another story to justify the acceptance of a "second wife" which I don't see necessary since your religion permits it. But the important thing men don't talk about is that the prophet(pbh ) said you should take a second wife if only you can love them all EQUALLY which is almost impossible. Now, about your husband, couldn't he have helped the widow and her kids without marrying her? Marrying someone to "help" the person financially doesn't even make sense. It's just like she is paying for the financial help he is rendering by marrying him. And now that you have gotten a man that will marry you, what if (God for bids) he dies too? You will start looking for another man that will financially help your children from two husband and yourself C'mon, this ideology is just sick. On point.  I think this is a lesson for Muslim wives/couples. |
Family › Re: Why Today's Women Should Marry Before Age 25! by bukatyne(f): 7:42pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
tearoses: It is well The earlier we all understand that both men and women benefit from marriage, then maybe this master slave mentality " I am doing you a favour" will stop. Hopefully. |
Celebrities › Re: Peter Okoye Cautions Paul For Giving The Public An Opportunity To Crucify Him by bukatyne(f): 7:42pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
pass111: you seriously don't know? I don't know o! |
Family › Re: The Silent Pain Of Fathers by bukatyne(f): 7:41pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
fem29: You have said it all. If you are a good dad, your kids will be close to you. Thanks dear |
Family › Re: The Silent Pain Of Fathers by bukatyne(f): 7:40pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
fem29: You have said it all. If you are a good dad, your kids will be close to you. Thanks |
Family › Re: My Marriage Is Crashing Already by bukatyne(f): 7:39pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
byvan03: I was banned by spam bot so couldn't respond earlier. Extremely rough life @ 25 only? . I feel the money is the main blinder here, she should prepare to open more pathetic threads in future. I wonder if she thinks that walking away in future will be easier than doing it now. Never say never. Well I think she is getting prepared for it. |
Family › Re: İ Am Very Angry by bukatyne(f): 7:18pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
@redwriter, It is that way with 1st kids... Our parents expect us to be pace setters and more understanding & undemanding than our younger ones. In some places, the first child is seen as the youngest sis/bro of the parents. Again, their finances might have improved with time and they have more cash to spare. I can particularly relate with managing rather than asking them for stuffs and devising means to make my pocket money last. I am however happy my sis has it all because I see her as my 'big' daughter.... She sometimes calls me small mommy Now you are a big girl and relate with her that way. If she is a jewelry person, raid her jewelry and like me eye one set & beg for it till you get. If na lace, or whatever, start collecting. If you prove to be trustworthy and mature, they would also start involving you in investment plans and require financial advises. Biko leave laptop and pocket money things for you baby sis. I asked my mom for a nice salad bowl during Christmas for my guests and I honestly doubt I would return it back  except she expressly asks. In fact, I am sure your parents will soon start reporting her to you (if they have not started). They expect you to take over training and care from where they stopped. God will give you the strength and wisdom required. Biko, ma binu.  |
Family › Re: My Father Kept Malice With Me For Four Year For This Reason by bukatyne(f): 4:46pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
igwegeorgiano: The joy of every parent is to see their wards excelling in their chosen careers in life knowing fully well that the time to enjoy the fruit of their labor is just standing by their side.
Fellow nairalanders for those of you who are catholics, you will understand better my ordeal as a 'disobedient' child according to my father because that is what he choose to call me then.
Am in my late thirties now and i remember with nostalgia all that happened during my growing up years. I attended the oldest catholic minor seminary in Nigeria years back. after my first six years in the minor seminary i proceeded to the major seminary which is regarded as an institution of higher learning in the catholic church
While in the seminary, i knew deep inside of me that my vocation was no where to be found in d seminary because i knew i was not called to be a priest. my father desperately desired me to. therefore, i made up my mind to pull out at the end of my first degree in philosophy which is my first five years in the seminary.
I met with my spritual director and disclosed to him what i intended to do at the end of my philosophy course in d seminary. please note that every catholic major seminary is an affiliate of one university or the other in nigeria. My spiritual director counselled that i should followed my heart. it was easy for me to take this bold step to quit because i knew my calling was not to be a priest. it finally came the day i wrote my final exams in the seminary(5th year)the feeling was so great that i appreciated God for revealing it to me that i wasn't cut out for the life of a celibate. The news of my voluntary exit from the seminary shocked my parish priest, and members of my parish. my father was so devastated and i could not gather the courage to face him but eventually i did and let him into why i quit. every bits of explations and reasons i gave for quitting the seminary never made any sence to my father because he felt i broght shame upon the family by refusing to become a catholic priest.
At twenty years old i had my first degree and was ever qualified to go for my youth service but i declined and purchase a jamb form. i wrote the exams ans passed. i got admission to study economics in one the universities in the south south. i informed my dad about the admission but turned me down. my problem with him started from that day. he refused to sponsor my univetsity education but God favour smiled on me a family in US who knows my ordeal with my dad took up the responsibity of seeing me through school without my father knowing it. after four years i graduated with the best grade in my dept and for four year during that period my father kept malice with me without recourse to the fact that being a priest does'nt guarantee holiness or a sure ticket to heaven. i only did what i know was the best for me and my family. Kenamo! So you left father work because of chopping pussy Abi? Anyways, on your wedding night, bring out your JT and tell your wife to kiss it. After that, tell her to be grateful you followed your heart else her JT would have been locked up in a seminary. To the ladies, may our JTs not be locked up in a seminary and hidden under robes of priesthood..... Isseeeeeeeeeee! On a serious note, what do you want to be? |
Family › Re: Woman Mouth Lashed For Kneeling To Appreciate Her Husband Publicly? by bukatyne(f): 4:08pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
aljharem: The way some women talk eh, one would think they are either immature or just have fish brain
A woman shows appreciation for her husband support and some people are talking trash. Can't they see that the husband is almost kneeling down to pick her as well.
these same women would gladly kneel down to give bj. Rubbish Is there anything wrong in kneeling to give BJ? I think both parties are blowing it out of proportion... 1. Those using the woman as a yardstick for a 'good wife' 2. Those 'insulting' the woman. |
Celebrities › Re: Peter Okoye Cautions Paul For Giving The Public An Opportunity To Crucify Him by bukatyne(f): 7:03pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
Deivid10: meanwhile . . . A man and his wife quarrelled. After the fight, the wife went into the bedroom. A few minutes later, the husband also trooped into the bedroom only to find the wife busy packing her suitcase! He asked "You are packing! Where are you going?" She answered "To my mother". The man paused for a while and also got his big brown pure leather suitcase & started packing his clothes. The angry wife stared at him and said "You are packing! Where are you going?" He replied "Oh yeah! I"m going to my mother!" The wife replied, "To your mother??!! And what about the 6 children?! Who is going to look after them?" The man replied, "You are going to your mother and I am going to my mother, the children should also go to their mother! . . . . Enjoy your day jooor..... leave Rivers Election violence for fools whom won't just be gone BT also forgotten so soon The wife kuku change to her father's house  |
Celebrities › Re: Peter Okoye Cautions Paul For Giving The Public An Opportunity To Crucify Him by bukatyne(f): 6:57pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
pass111: It Is only a fool that won't understand waz actually going on  What is going on? |
Family › Re: My Marriage Is Crashing Already by bukatyne(f): 6:43pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
Ujoan: Eiyaaah. . . Poor you!
I blame your parents for raising someone with such low self esteem. The parents might have tried but it did not enter.  |
Family › Re: My Marriage Is Crashing Already by bukatyne(f): 6:40pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
byvan03: 25years, yet so desperate!! It will only get worse, common what exactly drives you bonkers about this evil aged man? Call off that wedding, go ahead and that will be the worst mistake of your life. You are forcing this marriage, seems he got lots of cash . The cold feet thing before marriage is a lie for those that are sure of what they are doing. Babes, Not seems... The guy is over loaded and might be good in bed. But that money sure pa! Or she lived an extremely rough life earlier and is scared that after this man, no one else. |
Family › Re: My Mum VS My Girlfriend. by bukatyne(f): 6:32pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
Lols @ topic.
Wouldn't wash
Again, might wash
And end the relationship depending on the guy's reaction |
Family › Re: My Mum VS My Girlfriend. by bukatyne(f): 6:20pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
aforti: .
Na your type of people them they use do rag for marriage. Op's mother is meeting you for the first time. She no offer you food as a mother would to to a child Na cloths she go bring out for you to wash as if Na house girl skills them want access and you are saying u will wash it. If you go visit your mama from a distance after you have not seen her for a while and nxt thing she just go bring pit cloths for you to wash you no go vex? This is the first characteristic of a desperado, aka fake ppl, doing things you would not normally do just to please people. Laugh wan tire my belle |
Family › Re: Woman Mouth Lashed For Kneeling To Appreciate Her Husband Publicly? by bukatyne(f): 6:14pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
@PinkBarbie...
I do not get the correlation between a boss and a spouse...
I expect higher conduct from the one I chose from the whole world an intend to spend the rest of my life with than a boss who I did not choose and can leave when I decide.
Like I said in the original thread, whatever rocks their boat.
I am happy reading a wife was so happy with her husband and decided to kneel in appreciation publicly.
100% better than she slapped him in public. |
Family › Re: Woman Mouth Lashed For Kneeling To Appreciate Her Husband Publicly? by bukatyne(f): 6:09pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
pendusky: You guys never seen this couples before on outing.
The Lady is a medical Doc
The hubby a Lawyer and Speaker Akwa Ibom House of Assembly
visit his church you will know what they do. How do they behave Story dey sweet me |
Family › Re: The Silent Pain Of Fathers by bukatyne(f): 5:59pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
@personal59,
While I understand you want us to appreciate fathers and by extension husbands, generalizations will not help it.
First, growing up, my parents expected us to be able to defend ourselves... (Girls & boys alike). In fact, I was expected to be able to stand up for my younger ones (a male & female)
Secondly, I don't think the girl child is immune to injury or naturally restricted to a type of play... It is mostly parents that conditions their kids to certain types of recreation. I and my younger bro were treated like twins and yea, we had almost similar likes.
I remember when we were in Jnr School (God help our parents), we used to jump from spoilt tractors behind our dormitory (thank God nobody fell).
Don't you see Female children running about during primary school break period?
Third, I always find the line that fathers are 'working hard' hilarious. If I didn't know better, I would have thought men and women have different job descriptions at work.
The same work your very hardworking man does and comes home 'fagged out' is the work a mummy does and is still expected to take care of the home. Some women would testify they have to make breakfast before work and cook dinner when thy get home.
I have two colleagues whose husbands doesn't like 'frozen' food; they prefer freshly cooked meals....
Women have same working hours and yet, they are able to work around it to be involved in the kids' lives.
@Gettinh things easier.... It depends on how you see it. Women pay with their bodies; men pay with their money... Both parties are still paying. Now we have increase in gay lords and sugar mummies, guys have started paying with their dicks too.
@Going to the market.... Well I would say women do market runs more.
I am also sure that irrespective of the hype of mothers worldwide, a child will always acknowledge & appreciate a good/active father. |
Family › Re: Help! My Husband Keeps Saving His Ex-girl Pix From Watzup On His Phone by bukatyne(f): 5:27pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
byvan03: Marriage has been ridiculed, things that shouldn't be condoned are now being nurtured. I don't even get how his ex is still his friend. You guys didn't date? I believe everyone knows where the rain started beating them. The foundation of every marriage defines the structure, hope you didn't cause their break-up.  |