₦airaland Forum

kadman: No it's actually not! Thoughts like this is what keeps women in abusive homes till their death. I know several women who left abusive relationships or marriages where another woman was brought in - as far back as 50 years ago. I haven't heard of them being ridiculed. Could it be that it's actually you who judge these women and you mask your opinion as "society".

I do know some parents force their daughters into unhappy marriages and then force them to stay in it. I've noticed this is mostly to do with religion especially when said parents are senior member of churches.

God bless you!

Divorce as a word might be relatively new but it's not new as an action.

Go to the villages and see women who packed out of their homes and married other men; men who kicked their wives out and married new wives. I do not know where the stigma is.

Is the label divorcee or separated on their foreheads or what?

coogar: everything in nigeria is about the society. 80% of what you do is because of what the society dictates. your elaborate wedding is for the society otherwise why can't nigerian women go to a court with 4-5 witnesses and get over the ish. all you hear is make up artiste, aso-ebi and live cows.....many newlyweds spent their salary of 5 years in one day to please the society...



the ridicule is bearable as it is. if she leaves him, then it's a different tale entirely. you cannot compare what obtains in the west with africa. it's easy to come on the internet and talk a good game.

Mr.,

I live in Nigeria so I talk with first hand experience...

I will await the person who will walk up to me to 'talk' because of a choice I made.

I guess when she dies, 'the society' will mock her and eat akara at her funeral.

Nairaland should be a sample to you: When a woman comes crying, it is 'pray, endure, wear tight pant, wear loose bra' etc.

When she dies, the same posters be like 'why did she not leave, marriage is not do or die' etc.

The truth is that anybody caring about what society says cannot succeed.

One musician of old sang about it ...'ko sogbon to le da, so siwa tole wu ... o maa le te aye lorun o!'

Don't mind my Yoruba... there is nothing you can do, there is no way you behave that you can please the society

coogar: not all men are abusive....
some families are happy with only the husband bringing in the bacon with the wife taking care of the home front!

the problem is - nigerian women think physical abuse is the only form of abuse. married women in that country tonguelash their spouses and they expect a bouquet in return.

when a woman provokes a man, she should be ready to face the consequences. I don't tolerate any form of violence and by the same token, i don't tolerate any form of verbal abuse as well. mutual respect towards each other is the way to go.....




which society? your society! the irony is it is the same female folk that would use her divorce status as a whip to flog her.



not in a society where single women are seen as pröstitutes. are you aware some landlords would not rent their houses to single women of a marriageable age?



i really don't think you stay in Nigeria....you either stay in Chad or Douala.

I am from Mars and stay in Jupiter Lol!

I am quite young but I have seen enough to know that the only person who really cares about you is you.

As she is staying, is the same society not ridiculing her? I bet some women whose husbands pound them secretly will still be pointing fingers at her laughing.

coogar: not all men are abusive....
some families are happy with only the husband bringing in the bacon with the wife taking care of the home front!

the problem is - nigerian women think physical abuse is the only form of abuse. married women in that country tonguelash their spouses and they expect a bouquet in return.

when a woman provokes a man, she should be ready to face the consequences. I don't tolerate any form of violence and by the same token, i don't tolerate any form of verbal abuse as well. mutual respect towards each other is the way to go.....




which society? your society! the irony is it is the same female folk that would use her divorce status as a whip to flog her.



not in a society where single women are seen as pröstitutes. are you aware some landlords would not rent their houses to single women of a marriageable age?



i really don't think you stay in Nigeria....you either stay in Chad or Douala.

I am from Mars and stay in Jupiter Lol!

I am quite young but I have seen enough to know that the only person who really cares about you is you.

As she is staying, is the same society not ridiculing her? I bet some women whose husbands pound them secretly will still be pointing fingers at her laughing.

coogar: the society, duh!

Which society? Who really in the society? At the end of the day, who really cares about you?

Anybody doing one thing or the other because of the 'society' has nothing to do in the first place.

When a person has no purpose/dream/ambition, anywhere becomes his/her destination.

Let her not live her life and be talking of society!

goldstarpamela: Ma'am on no account should you leave your matrimonial home...dis is d means d devil wants 2 use 2 break ur home..it is also ur home..pls stay and find a means of putting a stop 2 his bad attitude

Lol!

If she could 'put a stop to her husband's bad attitude', she would not be here

I guess even if her husband wants to kill her, she should not leave.... it is better to be a glorified/dead Mrs. than to be a single living mom.

It is well

AjanleKoko: Not at all.
But there is a very distinct social stigma associated with divorced women in Nigeria. It has nothing to do with the woman's income.
And of course you are likely to not get any support from anybody if you report your husband to the police in Nigeria. Neither your family nor your husband's.

What/ where is the social stigma? Who is stigmatizing her?

dowjones: sorrystories.com! I will not mind standing as the bad guy but i'll drop my 2 cents.

Any matured mind will know, it is wrong to listen to one side of a story, especially the WOMAN'S side. Laced with tears and self-righteousness, a woman WILL never say what REALLY triggered the abuse. I AM AGAINST ANY FORM FORM OF ABUSE but some men are not particularly diplomatic or patient. The woman must have seen these traits during courtship and early parts of the marriage yet they still dont know how to handle thier man.

Men who exhibit "abusive" traits are usually victims of extremely strict upbringing, where perfection is required at all times or they've been played by women (ex-girlfriends). Men like this will transfer this "discipline" or pain to his household if that part of him is triggered.

I grew up in a home where my Dad constantly abused my mom verbally,he'd leave the house for months but he made sure we had more than enough. I grew up hating him and this hate remains but even as a child i knew MY MOM WAS USUALLY THE CAUSE ! (RIP to her soul but she was the cause). She was forgetful and careless and he was a perfectionist. her carelessness caused a fire that burned our house and 2 houses on our street (and this is is one of the many things)
There must be days ur husband is sincerely loving and "normal". Ask him what you do that pisses him off and after that, tell him you will change but he has to stop the abuses for the sake of the kids. (asking what pisses him off works like magic)

I have talked too much..and its a sign of the end times!

Nobody is a saint; I will agree

Would your father have liked it if your mom always abused him when he wronged her?

Did you know that the thought/ pain of your dad abusing her is enough for her to continue to err?

if he was a perfectionist, why did he not marry one?

Look up the definition of love in 1 Cor 13: 1 - 8

When I come across stories like this, I wonder: How was the foundation like?

Was all these stuffs hidden or did the people really see them and still venture into the marriage?


OP:

I would advice you re-evaluate yourself to see if he is reacting to your actions (not that I support his actions). If you are satisfied that you are clear, biko run as fast as your two legs can carry you. You have two beautiful kids to take care of. Don't listen to all those who will come and tell you to endure esp. cheating and beating is involved.

If you decide to leave him, don't see it as an opportunity to start sampling new men. It is a time to re-evaluate and see why you fell his victim in the first place. Even if you are innocent, you faulted in marrying him.

God be with you

RoyPCain: @bukatyne;

if man is visible, is he really spirit or he has been mislabeled or misclassified to be spirit, similar to the earth is flat? you can say for sure the body of man that needs nutrients, etc is not part of man that you see, but arguing that the spirit you dont see is the man. how is body housing two invisible things, soul and spirit or is it just one with two names depending on your vista? there is no way that physical body that the bible deems unimportant will carry 2 major invisible; spirit and soul. you did not say where the soul comes from, though i think christians and many think spirit is not only from God, but part of God. nothing in man is part of God, but all of man like in all other creation are from God.

you are arguing that spirit that man is dies, but it is the soul that gets the reward of what body and spirit did. if soul is punished, it borders on injustice and if rewarded, it borders on undue benefit. in either case when soul is punished the responsible duo gats off scot-free. when soul in rewarded, the duo responded are deprived. either way, it is not a good thing for a party. you may need t know that Jesus did not promise you or any group outside the disciples any holy spirit, since you really want to be technical. so your saying the holy spirit lives in you as a christian is a farce. there is no way it will happen. the additional reason is that no christian today does not fall into mistakes. so how is the holy spirit living in you and you are mistake riddled? only your holy spirit is always going away when you are falling into mistakes and comes back after and one should ask, what good is allowing you the pitfalls when that will make you short of the glory?

has the holy spirit ever bore witness in you that your father is God and not the nigerian man married to momma and you forced him to pay school fees, since you are saying he is not your dad? [this is the light moment of my day].

RoyPCain,

I do not understand your post and do not want to read the wrong meaning into it. I would appreciate you state your points clearly to enable us discuss.

Thanks.

99cent: I think what you are trying to say is that all fingers are not equal and we should accept reality the way it is. ie not try to change the status quo.
I personally find it unfair although I agree that reality will always be unfair. but that doesn't mean we should all be complacent.

We all have the opportunity to excel in certain areas. In some places, it is man know man; in others, it is strictly by merit. Everyone should find the system that enhances their chances best.

99cent: I agree that many feminists are doing a job that is not easy. The women who fought so women could be able to vote were probably miserable. they were hated and most didn't take them serious. But many yrs later, ALL women have reaped the benefit from that simple step.
Hillary Clinton when she first started out trying to put her feet in the waters of politics she was ridiculed and called all the abusive names in the book. was she miserable? I'm sure. But today, she is one of the leading candidates for presidency.
The same for BOTH female presidents in Africa (yes there are two female presidents in Africa) and they both faced misery for being females. It's extremely difficult and that's why there aren't many women in great places as there should be. the uphill battle is hard because of the many centuries of setback. it will take a lot of hard work to break even but it can be done.

just less than 200 yrs ago, EDUCATION was only for BOYS ONLY. The idea of girls going to school was unheard of and would be ridiculed. Even the english language developed in a way that it was assumed that only males will have access to reading. hence when u read the bible, they use male pronouns as if all humans were a "he" and that's because women weren't expected to be able to read so they were mostly ignored. In fact, people claimed that there was scientific evidence for why women should remain illiterate because because of biology, they are made for child rearing/cooking rather than for intellectual stuff. imagine
things have changed since then. change is always possible. the goal is for equality. I don't expect it to happen in my lifetime but I want as much progress towards the ideal in my lifetime as possible

There is a difference btw fighting for a cause you believe in and fighting because people are fighting! LOL! Do you know why those women excelled and we hear about them today? It's because they did what they believe in. There are some things money cannot buy. Passion and talent is part of them. We all hear about Yerima because he staunchly believes in child marriage and even married one. It comes from within him. If I decide to support it because Yerima is doing so, I will burn out after a while because there is no passion within to sustain me.

Have you ever wondered how those women sat down and said women should be able to vote, be educated etc. without seeing any example around them? That is the spirit within I am talking about. Everyone have a drive and a purpose within. My point is that they should develop it and excel rather than trying to copy someone else. Imagine Martin Luther Jnr. fighting for women rights or Elizabeth Stanton fighting for equal rights for whites and blacks or Issac Newton trying to discover radiation? They would have failed and we would not hear about them

99cent: hmm
yes. most people naturally do this. it's called staying in your COMFORT ZONE.
then there are the mavericks that decide to gravitate outside of the comfort zone.
Yes many feminists fall under this category and i'm sure they do it expecting the abuses and hardships. but if u are doing it for a grander vision, purpose or ideology, u can withstand anything. just like those folks that die for their beliefs.
that's why we need idealists in this world. without the idealists with progressive beliefs, nothing will ever change. we will still be living in the 10th century middle ages.

80% of progress is achieved by 20% of the population.
we don't need everybody to be feminist (although that will be awesome). just enough people to make changes. and definitely most women will be happy to share in the rewards. ex. there aren't many women out there staying at home and refusing to work. LOL but the idea that women could work happily in professional setting is something that had to be fought for and only a few women started out doing it and being ridiculed for it. ex. PHD used to stand for "push your husband down" imagine those bold women who went and achieved higher degrees and the second wave feminist movement that paved the way for the future generation of women who now see no big deal in this accomplishment of advanced educational degrees.

It seems you did not get the gist of my post. When I was referring to abilities, I was talking of in born abilities also known as talents. The gifts God you because you are you. It is not buyable in the market. No amount of training or education can make me as good as you are if I am not gifted in that area. Like I stated in an earlier post, I don't believe in gender roles save exceptions like child birth etc.

I believe anyone can do/achieve anything if he/she has the innate ability to do so. I am against doing something because someone else does it.

are sometimes it is very necessary to stay in our comfort zone. As a Christian, it would be foolish of me to go to a club and complain about the indecency there. That is not my forte or a Muslim complaining about women opening their hair outside the mosque.

It is well

Ile, byvan, sholly, Efe and dayo thanks for giving me a good laugh.

@OP:

Your title is funny. Is married women to take care of hubby or are married couples to care for themselves?

Men are babies? Can you please explain?

While I would agree that sometimes we develop strong familial bonds in the work place, know that there should be a limit. Do want you can within reasonable limits as a friend without dragging his wife's imcopetences or otherwise into it. A well trained adult ought to have been groomed in etiquette by his parents or himself.

Don't worry, you will soon be married. I am sure you will not like if another secretary with a lot of time on her hands decides to make over your husband.

It is well

ileobatojo: Further proof of your argument is now quite apparent on this thread. The supporting evidence? Here's the link..

https://www.nairaland.com/1334835/what-other-means-use

Lol!

It's well

biolabee: no one celebrates cheating in nigeria

in the haste to condemn you are overlooking one basic thing

2 generations ago, we were under a polygamous system. Currently we are morphing into a monogamous system as a result of christianity which is a white man''s religion and is less than 100 years at best

It will take time

In another 2 or 3 generations, things will be better

You still don't get it....

I am addressing the hypocrisy and not even the vice

When did Christianity become the 'white man's religion'?

Things will not get better until we begin to take in what we are really learning at the altar.

No one celebrates cheating.... Speak for only yourself sir.

I know someone who said he is a pro in cheating, no girl can hang belle on his neck etc. He is 'happily' married and really 'loves' his wife. According to him, he doesn't 'lie' to his wife and she has 'no reason' to bother.

My point: He will still go to church on Sunday and dance. He might probably even be an elder giving 'martial' advice to intending couples.

bukatyne: The Bibles Nigerians read and live their life by.

When a Christian feels it's ok/natural to cheat on wife/husband, be rude, not love, cheat, steal, lie, kidnap, forge documents, deceive one another and still thank God for His protection/mercies/blessings.

I know someone who was thinking of attending a church service with his girlfriend.... he is married

Reread my post.

I did not imply that those vices are only found in Nigeria; I am saying that they are been celebrated while we still call ourselves Christians.

biolabee: I believe the words cheating, rude, stealing are all english words which are not a preserve of any nationality but rather a human failing

Contrary to the OP's stated intentions, this thread is defaulting to the original intention ab initio e.gof bashing

By virtue of adamic nature, men n women have sinned and are subject to natural desires (weakness). Christians believe one can do nothing of himself

If you want to divorce your husband... pls do
if you want to pray.. pls do


if that is not clear,,,i wonder what is

jidegirl12: Which one is Nigerian bible again?

The Bibles Nigerians read and live their life by.

When a Christian feels it's ok/natural to cheat on wife/husband, be rude, not love, cheat, steal, lie, kidnap, forge documents, deceive one another and still thank God for His protection/mercies/blessings.

I know someone who was thinking of attending a church service with his girlfriend.... he is married

[quote author=eagle,eye]Am available.[/quote]My standards are extremely high!

Nashville and above

How old are you?

baldman: To all: Can you please ignore my reference to the fact that the bible does not seem to address the possibility of a woman divorcing her husband, it was an aside, and I really just wanted someone to tell me if there was any literal provision in the bible for that. Not to worry again, I have found the answer in the bible and that settles it for me.



It is interesting that my interpretation of the bible is 'Nigerian', but this bible verse is written in English and fortunately is is very clear, any man that marries a divorced woman commits adultery.. so no man who does not want to commit adultery should be married to the divorced. This bible verse cannot be interpreted to mean that a woman who divorces her husband for sexual immorality can then proceed to marry another man. I have found other scriptural position on this point and for this who are interested in the truth, the bible remains our final authority. Pls see the following scriptures:

1 Corinthians 7:10-11 - 10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

1 Corinthians 7:15 - But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.

1 John 2:3-4 - And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. (Read More...)

Matthew 5:32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matthew 19:6 - Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Romans 7:2 - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.

Mark 10:12 - And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Matthew 19:8 - He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Malachi 2:16 - For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for [one] covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Matthew 5:31-32 - It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 7:11 - But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

Mark 10:11 - And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

1 Peter 3:1 - Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

Malachi 2:14-16 - Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet [is] she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant. (Read More...)

Romans 7:3 - So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

I know this is a sensitive matter so I will rather not dwell any further on it, but pls, as much as it is within our power ( God helping us) let us strive to keep our home. Look out for what the devil is trying to achieve in any situation and make sure you do not play into his hand.

Adultery is a sin, sin is a weakness of the flesh.

Adultery is a sin and weakness, fine. If God can forgive adultery, why can't He forgive a divorcee marrying another man/woman? Is divorce not a weakness too?

Nashville: So you are marketing your 18 yr old sister. No let Yerima see this thread o!

Marketing? More like doing under G runs and findings

@bolded, it seems ileobatojo has initiated you

Nashville: Sorry I am the last born of my parents. But I have a friend in his mid-thirties, fine boy, works for a top bank in London and looking to settle. If you are interested, I can hook you up o!

Mid- thirties?

I am not yet mid-twenties myself and I am seriously hooked!

I was looking for my baby sis that is why I said your baby brother.

Issorait, I will keep looking

[quote author=$wtme]Seriously I don't understand u,do u expect me 2 start fighting my husband,or nagging n calling him names in presence of our kids is that what u want d kids 2 see n remember so that they can disrespect their husbands?

Tnx but i will train my children d right way cos violence will not solve anything

If you av a gud advice give it 2 d op who needs it instead of lecturing me on ow 2 train my kids....[/quote]Can you state where I said you should fight him?

I said you are the mirror they will look at regarding marriage. How can I now advice you to fight or nag him?

Princess zoe: This man you are something else. The oddity amongest the nairaland married men. May the mercy of God that endures forever never depart from your home. May your marriage be a point of contact to broken homes around your vicinity and may your children be the best amongest their equals. Amen.

Nashville do have a baby brother?

It will continue to be well with you and your family.

Anything there are issues, remember this very post and God will give you both the strength to forge ahead and solve them without erring.

I pray that 10, 20, 30, 40 years down the life, you and your wife's testimony will be better and sweeter than this.

My regards to Madam

biolabee: interesting

You be ghost?

I never see you viewing the thread and yet once I comment, your comment appears?

99cent: GBAM. it's so funny how people know so little about feminism that they assume all feminist share the exact same ideas.
all feminist have the same GOAL of gender equality but there are many views to take on it. but as long as the goal/vision is the same of gender equality then it falls under the umbrella of feminism.




[b]I will disagree with you on this one. Ever heard of such thing as "old boys network" or "old boys club"?
at the end of the day (aka in reality), networks and connections often triumphs meritocracy. So, women should be given the opportunity in areas where they are underrepresented due to the fact that they are often shut out of these networks and connections.
ie. women will NEVER be equal to men in certain professions if they are not given the leg up. same applies to men in female dominated profession
ex. if the CEO of the company and all the upper level directors are all men then the likelihood that they will pick a female to become a director is very low. this is not about merit but more about the way things work in reality.

the "equal chance" you talk about DOES NOT EXIST in reality. a poor child usually doesn't have a equal chance as a rich child. that's why things like financial aid scholarships exist for poor students in some places. or affirmative action for minority groups etc. these are all well intentioned programs that try to offset the fact that not everyone has equal chance and opportunity.

I don't understand your last sentence. Men are not more intelligent than women and neither are women more intelligent than men. So if men are always winning, then in my opinion, something needs to be searched and analyzed to figure out why and how to make things better.
I mean why do we need feminism in the first place if it's ok for women to be losers? the whole point of feminism is to uplift women from our subordinate position in society. we are not losers. there shouldn't be a winner vs loser[/b].

My point is that even if there is 'old boys network', merit should be the standard when giving aid/assistance. I will place a man who has connections and a brilliant woman on equal pedestal. It now depends on the system in place at that point in time. Do you know there was a year in LASU when Jambites got admission before their own pre - degree students who passed? The Pre-degree students actually lost hope at a point. Some of my friends then even re-wrote Jamb and got admitted as Jambites. The university I graduated from gives a higher quota to jambites than Pre-degree students e.g. if the intake is about 5,000 students, they can do 3,500 Jambites and 1,500 Pre - degree or even a higher margin. In some other schools, they might not even look at the Jambites who applied to them until they have exhausted the pre-degree students.

We all owe ourselves the duty to know our strong points and gravitate to the system that suits us best. However, when we get into the system and the game changes we can start looking for necessary assistance. Imagine someone enters Covenant University and starts looking for assistance/scholarship to pay the fees when there are numerous Federal and State universities around.

As for the last sentence, I still believe in merit. If I do a test 100 times under standard conditions for a class taught under the same tutor with equal conditions where everyone has an equal chance, what is my business if a male scores highest the 100 times? or if a female scores highest the 100 times?

In my few years on earth, I have come to the realization that no body can be good in everything. Some people are only good in one thing. With the whole stereotype of females singing, I can't sing to save myself. Why do I have to disturb myself to sing when I know I can write well or teach? Wouldn't be foolish of me to go for a singing competition and be crying I always fail?

Every single person should determine their strong points and develop it. No matter how small or lowly it seems, please develop it to the very best.

Do you know why most people don't take feminists serious? We have left what we are good at to be looking for assistance in what we can't do. (I am not talking of gender roles because I do not believe in them either minus some exceptions). In this life, there is no competition with anybody. There is no I want to do A because Mr. B does so or because I want to prove I can or what a man can do a woman can do also/better. Anyone who does that will be extremely miserable whether a feminist or anti-feminist.

If I am not good at heights, why should I attempt to climb because Segun did to prove a point? Why don't I leave the mountain base and fly if I am expert at flying? Why don't I write or cook or swim or dance if that is what I will excel in? Why must it be that climbing that Segun does that I want to do? Why do I want to prove I am better than Segun in Climbing? Why must I be asking for special mountain gear instead of using my brain and time to put my flying gear in top form? The sky is wide enough to accommodate every one of us soaring. Guaranteed that some would soar more than others but why bother?

It is well.

Olajumokeibk: God bless men that love their wives

And how did you come into that conclusion?

Nashville: Matthew 5: 32 Read it very well:

But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Don't bother with him,

He is reading the 'Nigerian Bible'

Ray McBlue: It started out as serious, but somewhere along the line, I got bored. Can't blame a brother for having a little fun with the questions, can you?

Lol!

Chillisauce: Someone is cheating and you result in fasting. Keep fasting until you contact HIV..then you proceed to TB Joshua for cure.

If really he is cheating,and you want to go that route of fasting..na you Sabi.

*unfollows thread abeg***

And we are blaming the Pastor that taught women should see cheating as a weakness and pray for cheating husbands.

Ray McBlue: @bukatyne,

Your response to number one question was witty, but it made a tiny sense, so I conceded that one to you...for now

Your question number two response again made sense in a weird way. Conceded.

Your response number three was simple as it was definite. On a roll, ain't you?

The number four response finally gave me my confidence back! Big fail on your part.

Number five, Phew!! You seem to have lost your form. I'm on the ascendancy now.

Number six, Lass, what's going on? I'm really starting to get worried for you. It's 3 all, btw.

Question number seven, your losing streak continues...

Question number eight, found your feet at last! 4 all.

I concede question number nine to you based solely on your honesty.

And finally on question number Ten, you ended with a big finish!

Congrats, that made you my best reponder so far, and you didn't even use long grammar to complicate matters.

So you did not post this to learn?

You are not so serious

alexmbachu2: i dont have problems wit your marriage.just drop ur contact lets meet each other

It is well o!