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 Religion / Re: The Pope Is Seen As A Celebrity In United States by cgift(m): 6:20pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
[Quote from: JeSoul on Yesterday at 09:28:20 PM] Cgift, sweetie, surely, thou is not suprised the pope is kissing the qorani? Kiss Cheesy didn't you know catholics and mooslims serve the same god? catechism 841 The Church's relationship with the Mus'lims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Mus'lims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful god, mankind's judge on the last day."[330] [quote][/quote] You can imagine the time bomb they call catechism. When it explodes in their face it will be too late to have a rethink. Like you guys have already highlighted, you can see clearly that the Antichrist is seated right in the Vatican and these laymen here revel in one celebrity pope who can't even weild any noticeable spiritual powers save for dark ones. I shudder!!! Huh Look at him approving the one who has not accepted the Lordship and Sonship of God's son in Jesus Christ! And some ~lady~ comes here trying to turn scholarship upside down? She will soon come and start chanting the "judgmental" song soonest - that rhetoric, escapist, and sympathy-seeking lifebuoy statement. They would rather close their eyes (which is refusing to see anyway) to what stares them right in the face all in defense of some popey. By the way, ~Lady~, how far have you gone with my book "Dignity & Duties of the Priest", can you be honest enough to tell us that you saw what St. Alphonsus Liguori said about a priest falling once a month and that he can still be excused? I hope say the thing never kpai you already. You should be sweating seeing the legitimization of atrocities and sin by your revered fathers i guess. |
| Car Talk / Re: Motor Accidents You've Watched Or Experienced? by cgift(m): 4:57pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
Less than two weeks i bought my 1992 Primera and my first time really driving hard. I had wanted to test the ability of my car to run along Apapa Wharf expressway. Was on 120km/h on its way to 140km/h. I was not used to that road but never intended being on the road in ther first place -I had lost my way, so i had to continue on that road and still on high speeds. Got to a sudden bend, a very sharp one, no prior experience ~ swerved sharply in response inside that bend while leg was still on turtle! Hit the passenger side covet with a serious bang! Finished the chasis on that side. The impact transferred to the drivers side of the vehicle in a rebound and finsihed the driver's chassis too!. Spent hundreds of thousands to fix it but the car never recovered from that shock until i sold it off as scrpa after 4 years of usage after the accident. No injuries (i was belted and still had my hands firmly to the steering) save some particles that flew of the impact to destroy a police vehicle parked on the other side of the road. No airbags imagine! |
| Religion / Re: A Reverend Father (catholic Priest) With A Son by cgift(m): 3:15pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
anonimi: They are permitted to "sin" yes fall not more than once in a month and they are excused - no penalties according to the authorities. Let ~Lady~ or any catholic counter this if they can. |
| Properties / Re: Hottest Land Deals In Lagos At The Moment by cgift(m): 2:59pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
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| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 2:38pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
See their deceit in high places   See how you deceive yourselves imhotep? The council of Trent has it that if anyone does not declare that its the body of Jesus being served as wafer, let him be anathema (which often leads to torture and death). that birthed the Inquisition which was made to save the face of the Catholic church when people discovered their fallacies about the Transubstantiation. Vatican 2 has changed nothing of these gory laws which makes the world getting prepared for the next Inquisition. Imhotep, did Vatican two change the law of worshiping the wafers? Now tell me where did your fathers get the injunction to worship the bread when Jesus and his disciples never did? Tell me. I am waiting. Your lies and escapists strategies will eventually find you out and lets wait while you try hiding by your thin finger this time around.  |
| Religion / Re: The Pope Is Seen As A Celebrity In United States by cgift(m): 12:45pm On Apr 24, 2008 |
imhotep: Not really, You are just allergic to the truth. |
| Properties / Re: Lekki:hottest Real Estate Super-deals On The Planet! by cgift(m): 11:33am On Apr 24, 2008 |
james1: Yes o. Very real. I have several acres of land already secured in the Ibeju Lekki axis in that area. That area is another heaven not to talk about the Free Trade Zone coming in there, the presence of resorts like Lacampigne Tropican, Eleko Beach and the rest. The soil is wonderful, you feel like you are in a white man's land. Who is interested in this give-away? The land is presently going for N200K per plot. Reach me on 0802 854 7031 or crownsgift@yahoo.com |
| Properties / Hottest Land Deals In Lagos At The Moment by cgift(m): 11:27am On Apr 24, 2008 |
Hottest land deals in Lagos at the moment!!! Ibeju Lekki!!! This area is da bomb! Was there a few times but could not just help it but lock into this treasure that is yet to be exposed. The area near Lacampigne Tropicana, around Eleko beach and with industrialisation kicking off there. Its too hard to beat! Four dual carraige roads are being built as access roads into the vast land i am talking about here. If were you, i will lock in for the short-medium term. Its going for N200K per plot! You can't beat it! |
| Religion / Re: A Reverend Father (catholic Priest) With A Son by cgift(m): 11:11am On Apr 24, 2008 |
imhotep: Its probably the word trinity that is distrubing you. well, tell us what is in the bible concerning the relationship between the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, that is what i believe in - so long as it is in the bible. I dont subscribe to you confusing issues with this Trinity thing! Hope you are not saying that there is no relationship between the Father, Son and Holy Ghost in the bible? If there is a relationship, kindly tell us what is in the bible concerning the relationship between the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost from the bible. That relationship is what i will believe in. |
| Religion / Re: A Reverend Father (catholic Priest) With A Son by cgift(m): 10:45am On Apr 24, 2008 |
imhotep: No thanks to the popes who defended what they were not told to defend. If the contracted bible was not complied by catholics, God would have used other people to compile it. So dont fool yourselves with that no reward compiling thing you claim you did. The same bible you compiled is nailing your coffins here. There were no bibles but scrolls and texts of the old testament then and even during Jesus's time. Did they not get the message? They did, so people would still have gotten the message where they not to have catholics compile them! Simple as ABC. |
| Religion / Re: Re:The Only Saviour by cgift(m): 10:37am On Apr 24, 2008 |
To these alqaeda fellas: If MO admitted that he did not know where he was going and what al'ilah was going to do with him? How can you follow that kind of person. What assurances of salvation do you guys have? Dont you think there i a problem somewhere if your leader never knew what would be happening to him. Jesus was too sure of what he meant and left no one in doubt about his mission and personality. Jesus, according to even the kuran is alive. Cant you read in between the lines to see that MO was only a deceitful person who had not special powers or grace but dwelt on the power of the sword to breathe terror? MO is still i his grave waiting for judgment. Little wonder when you guys mention he name of Jesus, you say he who has honour, wealth, peace and every good thing, i dont know exactly how you say it. But when you mention your woli's name you pray for him saying may peace, , and whatever go to him (in his grave). You are still praying for your woli. Jesus is made already. You cant comprehend that? Just keep enjoying an incomplete and unsure leader who claims he is a woli. You obviously like inferiorities. Now look at the Jesus you say you love, what records of him do you have in your kurihan? You call him your prophet also, where are his prophecies in your kurihan? Why dont you just admit that you have no records of Jesus and that his personality eludes you completely. Your claim for his prophethood is therefore baseless as you dont have records of his works and prophecies in the kurihan. The Bible has messages and prophecies from the prophets of old and we therefore duly call them our prophets. Where are your prophecies of Araham, Noah, Moses, and Jesus? Where are they? |
| Religion / Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by cgift(m): 10:05am On Apr 24, 2008 |
To babs787, Do you care to know that the bible is a book of prophecy and that very many of its prophecy have been fulfilled. The old testaments talks about the coming, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. This was fulfilled in the new Testament no doubt. In what way then do you want to compare the bible's authenticity to the kuran which is far from being a book of prophecy? The kuran is just a book of fiction and plagiarism. You know it. |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 10:02am On Apr 24, 2008 |
imhotep: No one is saying Jesus should not be remembered. What we are saying is that the Vatican has built so many demonic teachings around the Eucharist such that you guys worship the wafer/bread) and the wine by bowing down to it and doing all sorts which is at variance with what Jesus taught and practiced. So where does the problem lie? The communion can be very powerful especially if one knows the significance of it but not to be worshiped. It is idolatry when you worship the bread/wafer and the wine. Jesus and is disciples broke the bread and ate it. They did not worship it. Cant you get it? You guys just interpret the bible upside down and even display the effrontery of ratifying one who undermines the Lordship of Jesus. Tufiakwa! When you see those robed men, take to your heels 'cos they have deception up their sleeves |
| Religion / Re: The Pope Is Seen As A Celebrity In United States by cgift(m): 9:40am On Apr 24, 2008 |
imhotep: i think I shold just write-off this guy and commit his soul to the hands of "al'lah" his surrogate god! |
| Religion / Re: The Pope Is Seen As A Celebrity In United States by cgift(m): 8:52am On Apr 24, 2008 |
JeSoul: You can imagine the time bomb they call catechism. When it explodes in their face it will be too late to have a rethink. Like you guys have already highlighted, you can see clearly that the Antichrist is seated right in the Vatican and these laymen here revel in one celebrity pope who cant even weild any noticeable spiritual powers save for dark ones. I shudder!!!  Look at him approving the one who has not accepted the Lordship and Sonship of God's son in Jesus Christ! And some ~lady~ comes here trying to turn scholarship upside down? She will soon come and start chanting the "judgmental" song soonest - that rhetoric, escapist, and sympathy-seeking lifebuoy statement. They would rather close their eyes (which is refusing to see anyway) to what stares them right in the face all in defense of some popey.By the way, ~Lady~, how far have you gone with my book "Dignity & Duties of the Priest", can you be honest enough to tell us that you saw what St. Alphonsus Liguori said about a priest falling once a month and that he can still be excused? I hope say the thing never kpai you already. You should be sweating seeing the legitimization of atrocities and sin by your revered fathers i guess. JeSoul: Leave Imhotep alone! He enjoys his fallacy. Let him keep enjoying it but he would not be able to run back to Nairaland when the bubble burst. He cannot even understand why his popes approve a religion that denies Jesus' sonship in as much as the religion (Is'lam) approves of their mary ~ they have no worries over that of Jesus. |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 9:13pm On Apr 23, 2008 |
imhotep: i repeat, where did they worship the bread and wine as God as you catholics worship it today? Show me in the bible. |
| Religion / Re: The Pope Is Seen As A Celebrity In United States by cgift(m): 9:04pm On Apr 23, 2008 |
imhotep: Imohotep, the signs are all there for you to see. Your pope is kissing the qurihan and you are comfortable with that. Let me open this up a littel. The qurihan is one of the most opposing books to the mission of Christ on earth and your pope approves it. The qurihan states that Jesus did not die and your pope approves it It states that Jesus is not God and your pope approves it It also states that you can kill anybody who insults Is'lam or its prophet MO and ur pope approves it. It states that all jews should be killed and calls them apes and goats and all sorts, and your pope approves it. So what does the pope stand for? Falsehood, divisions, sheep in wolf's clothing. Yes! I am however not surprised anyways. No wonder is'lam thinks that the "trinity" that some Christians talk about comprises God, Jesus and Mary ( na wa o!) Delusions in high places. Coalition of darkness. The doom of the catholic church is clearly spelt in the book of revelations as it is the only one that fulfills that prophecy. The days of the RCC is numbered for the wrath of God to descend upon them. |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 8:43pm On Apr 23, 2008 |
imhotep: Imhotep, you deceive yourself so much that you make me wonder! When the 2nd Commandments in the bible talked about you not making the image of anything on earth or in heaven and worshiping them, in what was the bread and wine worshiped by Jesus and the apostles? Did they worship it and call it their lord just like you catholics call the Eucharist Christ on the wafer board. Your own god is a wafer, my God is not a wafer and neither can a wafer be my God. For long, your priests have deceived you into believing that that wafer they give to you is God. How can it be God? It is only a representation of God. You cannot literally eat God my friend. This rebuttal i know was responsible for the massacre of many innocent Christians in those days by the catholic monks for refusing to accept the demonic teaching of the Eucharist that the wafer being eaten is God. Imagine that wafer fall on the ground and trampled by someone, you probably are saying that God is being trampled on the floor under a man's feet right? Can you beat that? Let me iterate. Jesus did not worship the wafer or bread and wine in the bible as they is no where in the bible that says that unless your catholic bible says so. Back to the topic. Your understanding of the scriptures and its significance is so warped that the errors and herecies you people are churning out is so alarming, yet you refuse to see it. Bread and wine does not connote a god being worshiped. Your images of mary (of the apparitions) is clearly a violation of the command which says you shall not make the image of anything anywhere. Shikena! |
| Religion / Re: The Human Race Products Of Incest ? by cgift(m): 4:13pm On Apr 23, 2008 |
This is really getting more and more interesting. I like your analysis. They are obviously enlightened. Let me give my rebuttals nevertheless. m_nwankwo: Good. I believe that as well that God cannot annul his laws. However, i would not say i fully comprehend your religious inclinations at the moment but i see that you believe in God and also believe in the bible (even if to an extent). That notwithstanding, i think there are some misconceptions we need to iron out and fast too. m_nwankwo: God's laws are immutable does not mean that he cannot suspend it to achieve a particular aim or goal. m_nwankwo: Are you saying in essence that the narration in the bible falls flat on its face as the bible declares that the Sun stood still on the day the Children of is Israel fought against an enemy nation. What scenario then must have taken place if not that the sun stood still physcially? It could not have been reported as an extra-ordinary event when it happened if it had always been like that in that part of the world (my thinking). m_nwankwo: I think i will need further explanations on your submissions there. How do you mean adaptiing the law of gravity to go against gravity? Can i then adapt the same law of gravity to start going upwards into the air? Jesus walked on the waters, is that not a suspension of some laws of upthrust or whatever the scientists want to call it? The same thing applies to the axe in the time of Elijah that floated from the bottom of the ocean to the surface! I see these occurences as a suspension or call it violation of laws that he made and not an adaptation (whatever you mean by that anyway). Cheers! |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 8:20pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
imhotep: i think you should be dismissed. I had thought you will be scholarly enough to coin your own words up and present them here. Alas! what do we find? direction and re-direction. Link this link that? You dont even have a defense for yourself for a faith you claim to hold tight unto? How many times have i or anyone directed you to go and read up some piffles coined as catechism documents? When challenged to defend, you say its online, what a way to elope Its your trademark. can you put your own analysis to test without directing us to a place where one commandment was split in two to make up for the missing one? |
| Religion / Re: The Human Race Products Of Incest ? by cgift(m): 8:07pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
m_nwakwo, do not forget that God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. He made laws and can change laws., times and seasons! If you believe the account of the bible about the sun standing still, then why cant you believe that as at that time, ther was no genetic suicide in producing offsprings by two people made of same genetic materials. He probably introduced what yu now call genetic suicide in the later part of our existence to stop in-breeding? Why cant you think about that for a minute? If that is possible that he could have suspended the same laws he made like making Jesus Ascend into the sky as both the qurihan and the bible has it, thereby debilitating gravity, then he could do so, other laws he made. Simple enough i guess? |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 7:57pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
Imhotep, events have since overtaken that your submission? Why combine commandments in a bid to conceal and make room for your violation of same? Mary's image is a brazen violation of the command which says , make no graven image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or in the waters? Why the image of mary (of the apparition and not of the bible?) |
| Religion / Re: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by cgift(m): 7:49pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
Pastor AIO: You make sense sir. indeed one scripture is a more elaborate repreentation of anothetr one but these guys will not be patient enough to see that. They will immediately label it an error when in actual fact one might be explaining the other in details. However, for certain issues like discrepancies in number e.g., where it has it in one place the 20 people met Jesus and in another say 10 people, it could be that one writer counted only a certain kind of people and the other write another kind. One could have counted only men and the other everybody without explicitly saying so. Moreso, since some of them did not write their experiences on the spot, there is room for a margin of error as it relates to number narrations as two people will definately report different numbers for even the same event they were both party to! |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 7:41pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
~Lady~: Obviously this is fraudulent! Who combined it? Which of the popes? and to serve what purpose? If indeed your people have fused them together, that presupposes that you still hold the protestants #2 command, i.e., thou shalt not make any graven image , in regards right? If so, that brings up a fundamental question then: If indeed protestants command# 2. You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on earth below or in the waters beneath the earth is what it is literally, how have you guys kept it? Are you sure you have not violated it in anyway with mary's statutes being bowed to and prayed unto? Let me give my understanding of that point #2 : Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: , What is the statute of Mary doing in your cathedrals then? Whom in the bible have the Catholics done this after? Again, why bowing down to it? When it is very explicit that you should not bow down to anything made with men's hands. Let me give you another poser! Having another god does not and cannot be grouped as bowing down to another god. You can have gods without necessarily having a physical representations for them. Hence, the clear separation of the first command. It clearly antagonizes you setting up a god different from Yahweh in your mind like we Protestants serve God with our spirits without any physical structures erected. The second refers to the physical structures/images like you have in the catholic church and states that you should not construct them to serve them or bow down to them. Of course, they could not have erected a structure for the fun of it without wanting to serve it back then. So, you should not have separated points 2 and 3 as serving different commands. They are one and only one in my humble opinion. I think you only try to create more confusion doing a hard job trying to separate them when they are naturally one.
I think you should remove that protectionist garb of yours and discuss issues. Don't raise false alarms of hatred! Again, no one hates! |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 5:20pm On Apr 22, 2008 |
Many thanks, my dear Olaadegbu. I had no time going through that pile they call Catechism as i am only smuggling time out of my office work hours to even read and respond. I have gone through Imhotep's links and the furtherance you gave , i.e., http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a3.htm! You can see for yourselves. Even the Vatican site corroborates my assertions! The second commandment is completely missing on the Vatican site Imhotep, now got anything good to say now? The very link you gave nails your coffin. So what is your stance? While this is not to be seen as a war, it should be taken that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere within the walls of catholicism. Have you asked yourselves fellow Imhotep, ebos, oby1, ~lady~, lawyer, orobo 50cl, (all catholic friends), et al why your authorities have decided to jettison a critical part of the commandments that God Himself wrote only to put their their own thoughts to play and feed you laity with it? Could it be that they have something up their sleeves? If they do what is it? Imhotep, if truly you are truth conscious, then you should shudder at that omission assuming this is the first time you are seeing it stare you in the face like this. cheerio! |
| Religion / Re: The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 11:32am On Apr 22, 2008 |
imhotep: I think i am beginning to know where you belong imhotep. Its obvious you are being mischievous and untruthful to yourself. If someone is deceiving you, i think it is better than you deceiving yourself. I think my challenge was lucid enough. The topic is very direct; talking about the ten commandments. Do you have the balls to list them accordingly? Show us the direct links in that same Vatican site that has all the ten commandments they are teaching you. You use all sorts of names but you yourself are docking and not being truthful to yourself. The question remains: why did the Catholic Church redefine the ten commandments? Why? Why would God write with His finger on a tablet and some mortals alter the content and order and give it to you to follow and yet you come here saying all sorts of things that dont sound convincing even to you! Are you in a cult where even if an error or serious heresy is discovered, you still prefer to go on with it like that? Is it to justify your worship of mary of the apparitions not of the bible) that they removed the second commandments as it relates directly to your veneration of mary? We are listening. Help our"shallow reasoning?" we want to know. I have not lost anyone in the crusades, neither did i loose anything to any catholic, so why should i hate? Forget that your attempt to draw sympathy by labeling us haters. Face the issues that stare you in the face my bro. Must you stick to an error? Admit error in your doctrines or Catechism and we move on! Simple!!! Why did they split commandment ten into two? Can you be bold enough bro to alter what God has written? Is that not removing from the scriptures? Do you know what that means? This is it: Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: |
| Romance / Re: Marriage: He Wants Me To Wait Until I'm 32 by cgift(m): 9:56am On Apr 22, 2008 |
Tonyblu: word!!! It all depends. She needs to be sure she knows the guy and that the guy is not easily susceptible like me. If he is very resolute when it comes to marriage like me, then she can stay after giving her his word. Simple!!! |
| Religion / The Missing Second Commandment: by cgift(m): 8:03am On Apr 22, 2008 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn4uweesQrU Fellow Nairalanders, Here i am again. No dark goggles. My Catholic friends will need to convince me why they have nine commandments instead of ten in their Catechism. I have raised the question over and over again yet, they duck it. If there is anyone interested in telling us the rationale behind it, let them come on board to educate us. The second commandment in the bible says : Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: What do we have in the Catholic Catechism as the second commandment of God? Here we go: Thou shalt not take the name of they Lord God in vain. That means the commandments according to the RCC should be short of one since they have removed one. Right? But you are wrong! We now have commandments ten in the bible split into two and taken as one commandment each! They have taken the issue of covetousness and split it into numbers 9 and 10. Amazing i guess. Catechism has Commandment nine as Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor' wife. Catechism has Commandment ten as Thou shalt not covet they neighbor' goods. Its just one verse in Exodus 20:17! So is some wrong somewhere? Let us dissect this my feofle! |
| Nairaland / General / Re: @ Seun, Pls Reply To Me by cgift(m): 7:38am On Apr 22, 2008 |
Siena: why defend her? |
| Religion / Re: Re:The Only Saviour by cgift(m): 8:54pm On Apr 21, 2008 |
bab787, ori e n wu (your head is swelling abi?) ma a lagimo. what fast one are you pulling here with your known and stale duplicity? I am coming at you soonest. |
| Religion / Re: Pope And Security. by cgift(m): 8:45pm On Apr 21, 2008 |
imhotep: I hear o. That man is a great man. Leader of hundreds of millions of people. its not easy really. But note God is not moved numbers. He once wiped out almost everyone on earth. My problem is why does he kneel down before Mary's statute to pray and even bow to it? God had said that thou shalt have no other gods beside him. 1Jo 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen |
didn't you know catholics and mooslims serve the same god? 
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