₦airaland Forum

Electorate:
You are now saying rubbish, I did not write the constitution and the constitution is very clear on this matter. Tinubu did not win the election constitutionally, period.

Don't bother replying me again, I wont respond cuz I have made myself clear enough.

I'm also not the one that wrote this section

299. The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly .

Why should a candidate that had the majority votes and at least, 25% in 30 states of the federation not be declared winner if the above quote is true that FCT is treated just like a regular state of the federation?
What's your special about the residents of the FCT (I live there) that a sitting President must have at least a quarter of their vote?
So the INEC should conduct a rerun election because a candidate got 80% of the votes in the FCT and he's not the one with the majority vote?

Electorate:
The Constitution in stipulating the requirements for election as Nigerian president states in Section 134(2) that a candidate must (a) have the highest number of votes cast at the election; and (b) have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja. Clearly, it appears that the Constitution creates two hurdles that ought to be crossed by a candidate before the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) can return him or her as president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

There you have it, you can rest now and stop the noise.

You're not saying anything different.
So how would you feel if that section stated that "...have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation"?
Since you don't know why "and the FCT" was included in the phrase.

DMerciful:
Ofcourse we will...you have to prove why you think we didnt score what we got

You'll have to convince the Jurists why you think you won in states like Sokoto, Katsina, Kano, Borno, Jigawa, Kebbi, Zamfara, Niger, Kogi, Kwara, Ekiti, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Osun, then we'll prove why you didn't.
But I learned you guys are not talking about how APC rigged the election, but focused on why Tinubu is not eligible. Guess you already know you actually lost the election.

DMerciful:
You guys have to prove it in court

The burden of prove is on Labor Party, not APC.
You have to prove why you think you scored the majority vote.

Electorate:
Going by your assertion, Since FCT is not a state which is rightfully so because it doesn't have a Governor neither does it have representatives in the Senate and House of Representative which makes it DISTINCT and DISTINGUISHED hence the stated 2/3 of all states AND fct.

The AND clearly represent an addition to the 2/3 require to win which the APC didn't meet up to. The APC didn't win the FCT (Mandatory English Language) which means they cannot be declared winner. Period.

There's no where in the constitution that states a candidate must win the FCT to be declared the winner, no?
Section 299 or is it 290 already instructs us to treat FCT as though it's a state in the federal in constitutional matters.
Sticking to allegations of rigging would have been the best best for Obi, banking on an ambiguous section of the constitution.
They'll use the ambiguity to knock your case out.

Electorate:
[b]For you to pass WAEC, you must pass 5 subjects, and English language.
For you to win Presidential Election, you must have 25% in 24 states, and FCT.

There's no parallel between your comparisons.
It would make sense if English was not really considered to be a subject in the same way FCT is not like the regular State of the federation.
English is a subject, just like every other subjects. Saying 5 credit passes in 5 subjects and English language would mean a pass in English language is required.
However, FCT doesn't have the same similarities with other states of the federation in terms of administration and other things. There's no state attached to the constitutional name of FCT, so it makes sense to say 25% in 2/3 of the 36 states and the FCT. Section 299 would go ahead to say the FCT should be treated as if it's a state of the federation in constitutional matters.

AdaojoTheUrchin:
Why is he not a Fulani or Igbo man? Is it only yorubas that can defend Tinubu in the court?

Yorubas have the best lawyers in the country. That's not debatable.

podium:
Good morning all,

I will make this short and brief. I have work in a school for 10years now. I started working there with a salary of 8k up till 20k. I now have a wife with 2kids. The salary was not taking care of us again. And I was left in taking loan. But in any academic session ie 1st, 2nd, 3rd term, apart from my salary I do see up to 100k or more base on tips and other deals.

I resigned February and I got a new job of 45k. Now my former job is calling me to come back, that I will be given 30k.. maybe when more pupils come my salary will be increase..

Former job
* I go by 7.30 and close by 3.30 and have time with my family
* Trekable from my house, I don't pay t.p.
* I enjoyed public holidays and mid term break
* I don't go on Saturday, still have time with my family
* Tips and pension available

New job
* I go by 7:30 and close by lastest 7:30 or 8 no time for my family
* I pay 400 to and fro
* I work on Saturdays no time for my family
* No tips anywhere.. just your salary and you will be subcharge for any wrong posting.

I have 1 week to decide... Please help coz I am confused.

Oga, stick to the your former job, but be sure you make it clear that they can't serve you breakfast within the next one year.
You should up skill so you can get a better job.
You're a real man managing 20k with wife and 2 kids.

omonnakoda:
Shame on them

The level of hypocrisy is so sickening.
I remembered how Igbos cornered Jonathan's regime and made him sideline the Yorubas, despite the support he got from the SW in 2011.
This same set of people still blame the Yorubas for teaming up to vote him out of Office.
They would have done exactly the same thing had Obi won.
As long as the Igbos play this kind of divisive and hate-filled politics, the Presidency will always rotate between the SW and SS whenever it's the turn of the South.

Put her in charge of INEC and she'll do worse.
It's easier for you to criticize when you're on the outside. It's only those first time voters that would not know how far and better we've come.

This fool knows nothing than to increase interest rate, there by increasing the cost of borrowing. How will this help the already grounded economy? Remember this same idiot started a policy that resulted in we having parallel markets for foreign exchange? He has succeeded in doing the same thing for Naira. We're now literally buying Naira.

AntiTerrorist:
Do you know more than billionaire Obi and his excellent SANs? Believe me, it's your brain that is dead on arrival.

The same billionaire that doesn't know the difference between BVAS and iRev?

Apologizing in any guise is a sign of weakness, especially if you're apologizing to people who are bent on bringing you down.
You'll never see Mark or Musk apologize personally for Facebook or Twitter respectively.

Workch:
Well, there was a "fine" to forfeit $460k. So why did he forfeit it?

That was not a fine.

I've known this man to be a Thug since the early days of WWE.

These same people taunting Yorubas on these thread are the ones shouting tribalism because Yorubas said no to Igbos incursion in Lagos.
E ni wo tan!

President - SW
Vice President - NE
Senate President - SS
Speaker HOR - NW
V. Senate President - NC
Deputy Speaker - SE (or NW because it seems we don't have anyone from the SE)

BeardedmeatR:
Everyone will go back to stone age. Then everyone will begin from the scratch. Then we will know who's the master.

I hope you know the tribe that has the largest and the best artisans won't have problems starting from scratch?

SpatialKing:
From 1999 to 2007 how many states was Tinubu controlling as the opposition leader then?

This clearly shows you're a kid born into the 20s.

BeardedmeatR:
Only five bombs will level Lagos into a pile of rubbles. You are just a foolish boy.

The same number of bombs will blow the entire SE back to the stone age.

Krismas:
Then if u are serious about Jesus being THE SON OF GOD then how can Jesus not be God? Since everything gives birth to its own kind? That already means there the two GODs, father and son

I'm not disputing the fact that Jesus is like God. Of course, he came out from God, so He should have all the qualities of God. What I'm disputing is here is the narrative that God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is just one Person, serving 3 purposes.
It's against common sense to even imagine that God sends Himself (in the form of the Son) to the world to die for the sins of humankind to appease Himself (Father).

Venerable612:
I didn’t just type those things bro. I know them in my spirit. My spirit bears witness to these things - I understand them in a way that I can’t explain.

This is the verse you should pray about. It embodies all you need to know about how these three personalities are connected as 1!

John 15:26
“When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”

The Spirit of God is not a person my Brother, it's the essence of God Himself. There's only two Beings in the Godhead, Father and Son. Trinity is paganism.

JeffSA:
you see why I said you lots are Coward, you only have your mouth nothing more, even a single Russian can not kill 3 million of anybody without going down.

Dont worry tomorrow I will start by firing all my yolobaos employees and nothing will happen. Poor thing, go baff first.
MC olumo or whatever his called is more intelligent than you fools at least he gain massively from his evil deeds but what about you poverty birthed fool.

Highest two months this election will be forgotten but u idiot will continue living like a rats in your so called Lagos while igbo man business strive and live better than your entire generation. Poverty lineage pass on from your great grand father is still living with you Coward.
Send your account number make I send you the same amount I give your yorubas sister, Bleep them and never date them.
Naso one agbero way the form say na Dem Lagos but him wife come beg me for money, I Bleep her just give money.
the idiot still the shout Dem get Lagos but him no fit hold n feed in family. I go Bleep her again, bastard Coward yooluubaaes.

Mumu. Someone that hasn't eaten anything in days wants to fire Yoruba employees. Go and face your life. Hopefully, Tinubu will renew your hopeless life.
You even sound too incoherent for someone that has 2k in his bank account.
I'm not one of those that brag on being what they're not on a faceless forum, but if it's sure for you, share your location.
Anywhere you are in this country, by the time I mess you up with my influence, you'll realize you're a very poor man.

JeffSA:
A yoruba man is a born Coward, I rather use my time to think ways to make more money than worried about this dirty lazy lots.

A single Yoruba man is capable of killing 3 million of your kind without shooting a single bullet. If that's what you call cowardice, then it's fine.

He'll have the opportunity to explain how LP is winning accross Anambra to Interpol. Shey una think say una stubborn ni?

As for those still planning a protest tomorrow, we're waiting for you to carry out your threats on twitter space.
Starting from tomorrow, na one by one una go disappear into Interpol cell.

ebbo:
Jesus is a messenger of God not the son of God. God does not have a son and him only is above everyone else, nobody is closer to him in anything.

Your opinion.

ufotunang:
...no need to insult... can't you respond to issues or comments without insulting....at least the electoral law can be amended to allow policemen well armed with guns to be at the polling units...you can see what is happening in many polling units..voters are attacked, injured, some killed in some polling units. distruption of election...how long will we continue like this since 1999 where election and democracy started..since 1999 election till now ...voters , election polling units have been attacked by thugs..so we must find another option to reduce, solve and stop all this problems... that law can be amended

Sorry for the insults, but carrying arms at the polling units is considered to cause voters intimidation and most people would not feel comfortable with it.
What we should be advocating for is the use of electronic voting as an option for those who doesn't want to go out on election day. Our Senior citizens or less educated can go to polling units to cast their votes electronically too, but maybe guided. We need to get rid of ballot paper in our elections.

Venerable612:
Your first mistake is to think you can comprehend God with your limited senses. We know that God is, by Faith.

Now - please read through the passages below:

Phil 2: 6 - 11.
“6 Though he was God,[a]
he did not think of equality with God
[/b] as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges[b];
he took the humble position of a slave[c]
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,[d]
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.”

John 10:30
“[b]The Father and I are one.”

John 1:18
“No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“

John 1:1
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“

John 1:14
“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

Jesus Christ is the Son of God - and he is God himself. You cannot separate them - they are 3 persons - with the same ESSENCE.

How can you understand that God can be in multiple places and versions of realities at the same time… but you can’t bring your senses to understand that HE can be flesh and spirit at the same time?

You can speak with your pastor, if you still do not understand.

And no, humans are not body soul and spirit.
The Bible said we were formed from the dust and God breathed into us and we were made a living soul.
Bible never mentioned we were given a soul. The breath of God made us a living soul. And what happens at death when God's breath leaves us? We go back to dust. That's common sense and it's simple as that.
There's God the Father and Jesus is His Son because He came out from Him. That doesn't make Jesus any less than His Father. Let's be guided.

Bros naaa.. I would advise you read the Bible and understand.

Now - please read through the passages below:

2.
1 Thessalonians 5:23

23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 4:12

12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Matthew 10:28

28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

I willl stop there.

Lessons:
Humans are made of body, soul and spirit.

Your body is your flesh. Your soul is your Seat of reason, choices and desires. Your spirit is what connects you to God - it is pure.

At death, the human body dies. Spirit returns back to God. Soul either perishes in hell or lives in heaven - depending on the choices you have made.

If you read the Greek or Hebrew translation of the Bible, everything you typed up there would make sense to you. Especially where God is mentioned.
Even from the dubiously and confusingly translated English version, you'd know that God the Father and His Son are different Entities.

ufotunang:
...in each polling units they should be polce men with gun, AK 47 at the polling units...any thugs that come to attack.. they gun him down and other thugs will be afraid of going to the polling units to attack because of well armed police men at the polling units

You guys are illiterates. There can't be an armed security personnel anywhere 100 meters near any polling unit according to the law.
You guys will just be opening your mouths waaaa.

Venerable612:
You are probably the one who lacks understanding.

The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God! who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Stated differently, God is one in ESSENCE and three in person.

Just as a man is (I) BODY (ii) SOUL; AND (iii) SPIRIT. The difference is that Man is not co-eternal, like God. In the beginning (Genesis 1), God said let us create man in our own image - in the likeness of God.

It is never a contradiction to refer to God has 1 in 3 persons.

These things were express in the words of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

See this gibberish you just typed up there!
God is not 3 in 1. God is one and Jesus is not God. He's the Son of God.
Jesus said He came out from the Father. He also said he from the Father and will return to Him. If it's not absurd to you that someone would come out of himself or return to Himself, I don't know how to to explain common sense to you.
And no, humans are not body soul and spirit.
The Bible said we were formed from the dust and God breathed into us and we were made a living soul.
Bible never mentioned we were given a soul. The breath of God made us a living soul. And what happens at death when God's breath leaves us? We go back to dust. That's common sense and it's simple as that.
There's God the Father and Jesus is His Son because He came out from Him. That doesn't make Jesus any less than His Father. Let's be guided.

tctrills:
But Jesus Christ is God and he is Jehovah

Bible made it clear that Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus also said that he came out from God.
It's those preaching absurdities like only one person is the Father, Son and also the Holy Spirit that are misleading unbelievers.

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