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No.

That’s me crediting people like you for succeeding in tarnishing the label ‘feminist’ that even women that espouse feminism ideologies have to put out a disclaimer because they don’t want the wahala of NL guys.

Haven’t you been on a mission to harass ‘f’ monikers that have made feminist comments on this forum?

My comment was simple and easy to read, please don’t twist and distort it to suit your agenda. Any woman is free to be a feminist or not.

saucecoder:
You don see am?

That is a jab at women who would rather not be boxed into a movement before they can achieve all that God made them to achieve.

Where in my comment did I say it was by force to be a feminist?

saucecoder:
This is the problem with you girls on this forum. So it's by force to be a feminist?
You sef dat is talking, tell me how you are a feminist.

Kai

Beautiful.

What better way to destroy a movement than to discredit people that espouse its ideologies?

Unfortunately it’s working, you read some ‘f’ comments and they often start with the disclaimer “I am not a feminist o but...” then go on to type feminist ideologies.

CHoccolaTE:
Because men hate women and want women to remain inferior to them.

90% of men at least have innate hatred of women and the hatred manifests itself in their blatant and shameless misogyny and constant attempts to put women down and retard_ their progress or advancement in society, that is why they hate feminism and feminists because feminists keep insisting that no gender is better than the other
Trust me, guys know that gender equality is the whole Idea behind feminism but they will pretend to be ignorant or engage in outright self delusion and start claiming that feminism is all sorts of evil things and evil ideologies because they hate the movement and want it to die off. They want a world where women are subjugated and kept under their rule not because that arrangement is fair but because of woman hate, selfishness and evil self centeredness and desire to feel superior and Important.

Forget the lies men tell about hating feminists because of paying for dates or whatever they claim the real reason for the hatred is because they DO NOT want a world where females are equal to males.

This their desire to keep women under their feet has manifested greatly in history and in the major religions in the world today, men keep making societal rules to keep themselves in the position of demi gods.

lol why would the doctor be sued? I am sure the doctor obtained an informed consent from the woman.

chii8:
A married couple can decide to abort a pregnancy that they are not ready for but my only concern is why would a woman do that without the husband's consent?On a very good the day, the doctor who did the abortion should be sued.I have a feeling also that her mum was aware of this before the deed was done.

Yoruba - the culture that treats their women less like properties.

Sex

KoiceReloaded:
Racism is part of life. The majority will always oppress the minority and judge them by the color of their skin, or by their religion, politics, etc.

It's sad, but it's the reality. It's never gonna go away.

But you don't though, if you didn't know being transgender is independent of sexuality. There is no shame in learning new things. I learn everyday from reading threads here on NL.

You’re welcome.

Sniper101:
Actually, before now, I've known all I need-to-know about "transgendered people".
So I don't plan to heed your advice and waste my time in making any more 'research' on the lot.

But, thanks anyway.

I am not offended, the time you have spent on this thread is enough for you to get the information you need about transgendered people. Also, if you don't have time to do a research then you don't have to participate. It's not compulsory you quote someone, you can ignore until you have the requisite info.

Sniper101:
No offense, but unlike you, some of us are so busy this remaining part of 2019 that we can't spend precious 'time' to Google information about each & every issue posted on NL before we participate in it.

Why don't you take a break and do a lil research on a topic before you participate on any thread. No excuse, this is 2019, information is everywhere now.

Sniper101:
Transgenders are hardly straight dear
they're either bi or they're gay

And who the hell is Caitlyn Jenner?
{sorry, I ain't got the time to look her up}.

I don't know his sexual orientation. Being transgender is independent of your sexual orientation. Caitlin Jenner still dates women. A transgender can be straight, gay or bi.

Sniper101:
If it truly has nothing to do with sexuality, then tell me this ...the fellow who changed from being a female to a male, now that he's officially a male which sex is 'he' gonna be having sex with? Huh?

And when you give your answer, try to also explain how your answer has nothing to do with the rétards sexuality.

Dead serious.

Sniper101:
You're not being serious. Right?

*

Who gives a fvck about their feelings?

I know I don't.

Pataricatering:
The “ male ego “ derives simply from d fact that men can beat women - basically might is right - every other power men have over women derives from the basic fact that they are physically stronger - so the rules have been written to soothe and empower the male ego while women are forced to subdue and suppress their own ego .

Or men, transgender has nothing to do with sexuality.

kestolove95:
So e go dey Bleep woman abi wetin?

Agree with most, disagree on these two.

”self defense will reduce rapes” NO. Parents should teach their children to respect other people’s bodies, they aren’t entitled to them. They should be taught No means No and to speak up when they see evil.

Using God as a threat to teach children to be good is not ideal. What happens when the child grows up to be an atheist?

Miss Sacramento take your ignorance away from this thread. What has someone saying she is a "feminist" got to do with MGTOW, a fringe movement? Unless she said she is a radical feminist then you have no business comparing feminism with MGTOW. MGTOW is already the hard-line of a bigger movement. You can have blinders on and equate feminism with MGTOW, in the grand scheme of things, you don't matter. Feminists will continue to fight for your rights while you seek approval from NL misogynists. Anti-feminists like you purposely define the movement by the radicalism in the movement, you people willfully distort the movement in order to tarnish and derail the movement. What you are doing on this thread, miss Sacramento, is distortion.

missjo:
Lol,i did say you are a very angry girl and it is beclouding your judgments. I do not know the grudge you have against me.
The person i quoted was Baby123 and it was she who mentioned feminism and being a feminist on this thread, not i. Her comment is what even got me here to draw a contrast between hardliners. Not like i owe u this explanation but you seem to get off on spinning false narratives in your desperate chase for clout.

Enjoy your clout here dolly and allow me enjoy my L in peace,please.

missjo:

I just gave the name of the feminist group with ideologies likened to mgtow and you are still on me. What is it dolly?

So, the thread is still waiting on you to name these extreme ideologies that feminism espouses. Miss Sacramento.

missjo:

I just gave the name of the feminist group with ideologies likened to mgtow and you are still on me. What is it dolly?

Okay got it! So you do NOT know any extreme feminist ideologies.

missjo:
Go use your phone as usual to learn about separatist feminism dolly
We have actually expelled ladies from our group who try to internally recruit members from the gen pop to that branch.

I do not know what your problem is

I thought you were just bold on this thread claiming you know extreme feminism ideologies that is same as MGTOW. Alas! you know nothing, you were just making sh!t up. Post them here.

My problem is anti-feminist like you that make up sh!t about the movement because you disagree with the movement. I am still waiting on your extreme feminist ideologies.

missjo:
I can't engage you,too much anger projecting. You only need to learn the meaning of false equivalence.[b][/b]
How you also assume i am anti-feminist is quite funny considering that i have participated in equality matches in Sacramento and you are in your cubicle typing internet speeches when you have never held a placard in your life. Do not teach me about women rights,i have enjoyed those rights mor than you have and probably ever will. Bye Felicia

AKA I absolutely have NO clue what I am talking about and I just decided to jump into a thread that I know nothing about. At least you were honest from the start, unlike some of your anti-feminist cohorts. Also you haven't participated in any equality marches, if you have, you would NEVER compare feminism to MGTOW. lol "Sacramento"

missjo:
I take it this is partly directed at me.
You are right,feminism in its original sense does not want to do away with men. Are you saying there are no feminist ideologies today that believe men are to be done away with?

Please post them here. What are these ideologies

missjo:
No it does not but are there feminists who believe men should be done away with?

Let us not do this,i don't want to do this. Just understand that extremists and hardliners exist among movements.
From what i see in the starting post,there are levels to this mgtow. Not everyone is going to go up the levels same way not every feminist believes men are not needed for sex or procreation anymore.

Are there some women that believe men should be done away with? YES! Are they feminists? NO! There is a dictionary word for them and it's called misandry. You do not get to be disingenuous, invent and ascribe ideologies to a movement to prove a point.

FALSE EQUIVALENCE.

I am going to assume you meant to say MGTOW is a response to the feminist movement. What you are NOT going to do is compare a movement that seeks to fight for women to gain access to opportunities and rights that men already have so we can have a gender equal society, to an alt-right movement that seeks for men to separate themselves from a society that they deem harmful/non beneficiary to men. You compare feminist women that came before you that fought for all the rights that you now enjoy to incels. Do not conflate misandry with feminism, even the radical of feminists (feminists that believe that society should do away with patriarchy, they challenge existing social norms, objectification of women etc) cannot be compared with the mildest of a MGTOW. Do you know what MGTOW hardliners do? They shoot people. Please can you post for the class what these extreme feminist ideologies are?

lol talking about "I spent most of my life in Western countries" Feminism started in Nigeria before your grandparents were born and they made voting rights possible for women, and made it possible for women to run for office. There are some men that still believe women think and behave like children so they shouldn't vote. You can be anti-feminist if you want, no one cares, brave women will continue to fight for opportunities that you will undoubtedly enjoy. I just couldn't ignore your false balance. You have the nerve to compare feminism with a movement that came out of online white supremacy groups. A bunch of social rejects that live on the fringes of society. I don't blame you, it's times like this I wish time travel was possible, so I can throw you back to the 20th century.

missjo:
Baby124, feminism and mgtow are two sides of the same golden coin and in my opinion,anyone who is a part of one but despises those who are part of the other simply does not understand the concept of cause & effect. Just like feminism has hardliners,mgtow also has hardliners. As a feminist yourself, there are certain feminist ideologies you certainly consider extreme, i guess that is how there are men who are not fully mgtow and will not end up foregoing pucci in the long run.
And this is what brings me to my point, becoming part of a movement and not encompassing the full substance of it is to me a farce. I hate labels same way i hate peanut butter. Africa does not understand either of these two concepts in its entirety because the dynamics are different. I had spent most of my life in western countries before experiencing my mother land Africa and i can see that social movements can never be replicated exact in societies with different cultural dynamics, it just doesn't happen.

Africans can not on one hand hate feminism and love mgtow, same way Africans can not hate mgtow and love feminism.
Let love lead.

lol

desvi:
your mama, sisters and daughters

ok if you put it that way, all the cliches that have already been mentioned on this thread plus a few.

1. Innately good - someone that isn't nice/good to you because you're his SO, observe how he treats his siblings, waiters, cleaners and avoid any guy that badmouths his ex.
2. Open-minded
3. Empathetic - this is good for conflict resolution.
4. Easy going
5. Conversationalist

Desvi, did I pass?

desvi:
ok then let me ask you something else
your daughter asks you
mama, what is good husband material?
you: ...

okay.

missjo:
Lol,i wish i could show you this in about 30 or 35 years from now

I don't know which makes me happier your comment or that you had the most likes? There is still hope for Nigerians.

Richdad50:


A beautiful married woman who has her husband's support fears no troll especially the ones coming from inconsequential living things on Nairaland. After all, her husband's understanding and support is all that matters.

Most people would never understand the impact of bottled hurt. For years, she has kept the rage and cuddled sadness over an unfortunate event decades ago. Freedom starts from unpacking the heart and glowing is first an inner experience.

Richdad

Any qualities that she wants in a man. She is a grown woman and she is the one that will live with said qualities. I trust I have raised her with enough sense to choose what is best for her. Also I think my daughter would know her boyfriend better than I would, she actually dated him. I would have only met him a handful of times on his best behavior to form a true assessment.

I would have said you are the liar but that would imply you know what you are talking about. Based on your replies it shows you have no knowledge of the subject matter and you're parroting right wing websites word for word like your master here on Nairaland. All the ignorance you typed here has already been debunked. However, you do not want to stray from your talking points and you have no intelligent contribution so you are willfully ignoring the truth and repeating your deranged spiel over and over.

In some states the woman as the statutory rapist would have her parental rights terminated and subsequently lose custody hence she CAN'T receive child support, while in some states the male victim would have to pay child support because his parental rights are intact. Laws differ from state to state and child support cases are civil. If you say I am lying why don't you back up your claims with FACTS instead of all these your illogical emotional outbursts all over this thread. You refute claims without facts and you enlist the same three monikers ( which are probably you) to participate in your delusions. Empty barrel.

Regiomontanus:
STOP SPREADING LIES.

A woman can decide to have an abortion if raped. She can decide to keep the baby and the man will pay child support. Whether the child is aborted or not rests solely on the woman's choice.

A raped man cannot escape child support if his female rapist decides to keep the child.

Nothing is balanced. Prove me wrong with specific evidence. Keep helping Martinez39 prove his point.

hopefulLandlord:
A pregnant female regardless of being a victim of rape or not can abort the child Yes/No?

A male rape victim who impregnated unintentionally his rapist needs to go to court to ask for permission to relinquish his parental rights. which may be denied if he doesn't have enough evidence to prove he was raped

you still think it goes both ways?

If it happened in a state where they have written laws to terminate parental rights, as a victim of statutory rape, his parental rights are automatically terminated unless he wants them because he was a victim. If he was raped as a full grown man, then of course he would need a conviction just like a full grown woman that was raped would need a conviction.

The law doesn't care about gender, they are more concerned about the child, the ruling of a written law can be favorable to either side. A 14 year old girl was statutory raped by a 19 year old man, she had a child. The judge refused to terminate the man's parental right, even though that was what the mother (victim) wanted, he based the ruling on what was best for the child.

A state high court affirmed a judgment of paternity in a statutory rape case, rejecting the mother's argument that the lower court had "no authority" to adjudicate the parental rights of a father whose child was conceived by statutory rape. H.T. v. J.M. According to the Appeals Court of Massachusetts, terminating the father's parental rights "would unfairly disadvantage the child by depriving her of the right to receive financial support from both parents." ABA Section of Litigation leaders believe the decision is contrary to a majority of other state laws or decisions and opens the door to continuous harassment of rape victims by their rapists.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/publications/litigation-news/top-stories/2017/court-affirms-parental-rights-of-statutory-rapist/