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What about the dude in the tape? The person that actually committed the crime, the one that released the video?

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"laments" lol that's a stretch. Obviously she is reminiscing the times when she was foolish hence the "restoration of senses". poor girl about to be dragged by Nigerians if this gets to FP.

DBestDoc:
[s]That Lady you quoted and called a dumbo just told you the truth, albeit rather harsh with her usage of words.

People are refusing to say things exactly as they are just so they don't come off as judgemental but trust me, the result may be three kids for three different men if we keep hiding the truth. Oh yes!

The Nigerian society doesn't favour women in any way, from the youngest of us to the oldest so it's our duty to protect ourselves in every possible ways we can, emotionally, physically etc. Being in a relationship shouldn't make you lose your sense of reasoning and self preservation.
If you were living in an organized society, the law would sort you out and that would be a different kettle of fish altogether and Of course you wouldn't be on Nairaland posting this Crap. Yeah, this is bullshi.t and crap.

It's Bullshi.t because you totally planned this out and unfortunately, it's a plan gone wrong. The public pric.k is 40 and single aha? but that doesn't mean he's a father material or even ready to be one or married and you went ahead to take your chances anyways.

He had a live in girlfriend(who was smart enough to not fall pregnant) whom you knew about but you still went on to play.

You caught him whoring with three different women and you still didn't leave. At least, you would have borrowed a leaf from the live in girlfriend that left him because of you, but you didn't. You clearly had a mission to achieve.

He still brought his public peni.s into your Vagin.a (which you clearly don't respect) and you didn't make him use a Condom. You weren't scared of contracting some incurables from him. Wow!

The 'morning after pills' would have saved the day even after all the intentional 'mistakes' but you again chose not to use it.

Women make this 'intentional mistake' for one of three reasons; to have a baby of their own with or without the involvement of the father. These women see and treat the pregnancy as a gift, they have the means and are happy to take care of the kid all by themselves. The idea of being able to have their own babies whether or not marriage happens is their motivation.These ones are the wise sisters, they don't go embarrassing themselves because they know what they want.

The second category are the ones that tie a man to marriage with pregnancy. It works for a lot of sisters but some others get their fingers burnt and their lives altered forever.

The third category are the ones that want some extra cash from Child support. This is a mistake in Nigeria as you'll spend more in time, energy and money trying to get some kobo that isn't worth the hard Labour The law will work for you abroad and you could get an extra coins from the government for the upkeep of your kids
The last group are the genuinely ignorant and innocent sisters who were deeply in love with a man, got sweet talked and lied to and mistakenly fell for the lies and got pregnant. These ones, i feel some pity for 'cause they never saw it coming.

You know which category you fit in but my advise is that you let it go. The deed has been done, pregnancy has advanced and you got an amazing gift from God already. You said money is no problem and you can pay people's salaries on here so, save yourself this stress and channel all energy to welcoming your gift and giving it a good life.

Forget about that man, he's a dead beat and very irresponsible. If you want to stress yourself fighting him, you'd be doing your mental and physical health no good as High BP may set in. The agencies and lawyers you're calling on will not do you much good. An order will be given that he pays the Child support but paying it regularly may not be achieved.

This guy rejected this pregnancy from the start, forget about him. If in the future he decides to come take responsibility, that would be fine. Let your family and friends channel all their resources towards you and your baby because you'd need as much support as you can get. Being a single mum isn't a walk in the park and that phase of your life will begin soon.

This is just an opinion and you may decide not to take it. Any quotes with insults will not be dignified with a response. i'm a very busy person but i took out time to write this here. Maybe some girls planning on using this 'intentional mistake' method may reconsider because it hardly ends well. The exact advise i'd give to my flesh and blood.

I sincerely wish you all the best![/s]

All that epistle is not why this thread was created. Judging her from your moral soapbox doesn't change the fact that a man has refused to accept the consequences of his actions. You know Nigerian society does not favor women, yet here you are, you are part of the problem. If those organized societies had women like you that are willing to sit back and accept the status quo, they wouldn't be organized.

You have all these for the woman but none for the man that is also responsible for this mess. You really ended with "I sincerely wish you all the best" I hate to see when you don't wish someone the best.

yawn. Captain obvious, I just said in my post the shoe fits. Some men will continue to pay for tfare for a girl to come over, some girls will always accept. It is not your lifestyle, so why question grown people on what they decide to do with their life?

P.S. This topic is already a dead horse on Nairaland.

MissRaine69:
If the shoe fits.....

O well good for you! Do you want a cookie? Not all women have the privilege to be blessed with your exceptional qualities. Why don't you continue in your virtuous ways and let us unworthy women live our sinful ways in peace.

MissRaine69:
If it’s paid for then that relegates me to the very realm I am exploring.
Let me direct your mindset to a certain woman that does exist you might never come across this type in your lifetime maybe in the next one if the fates choose to be kind to you. I want for nothing. I don’t demand or expect any monetary rewards or “gifts” for my sexual prowess. If and when gifts are given it’s because that person wants to not because I expect it or demand it.
Does that answer your question?

Thank you. I thought the other moniker thought she was wrong too, until I saw she said she was being sarcastic. I don't like it when people resort to being grammar police when they don't have anything else to say.

raymi:
Whomever is absolutely correct in that context. It's a dependent clause and it applies in the way it was used.

Why would you post your daughter on NL? some one has already called your daughter a slut. What is a prestigious high school? I hope you got permission from your daughter to post her picture on a male dominated forum. Congrats to her!

Unlike world famous celebrities, Nigerian celebrities only respond to comments when they are insulted.

PROVEN facts with statistics that don't favor your biases and prejudice is false but your opinions that are NOT facts is what it is true. OKAY.

Logic: let's talk ad-nauseam about something that happens 2-10% of the time and lets proclaim as false and no need to talk about things that happen about 90% of the time.

There is no need for us to go back and forth, your prejudices are making you blind to hard facts. Anything I type you would say it's false and find a way to twist it to fit your bias, because you have been conditioned to believe and see women in a certain light. It is your prerogative to be close minded and not leave room for some doubt. I know some guys in my circle that think like you, some changed because of experiences, circumstances etc. Also, some do not change, I suspect you will not change but that's ok, the world is changing, for every one of you, there are five more guys that believe that a woman should be judged solely on the contents of her character and not by some stereotypes you get from random strangers on the internet that create posts for likes ( not you, referring to OPs). I am glad that in real life most men that I know don't think like you, it means there is hope for mankind yet.

I am bowing out. I genuinely enjoyed our discussion. I guess we path to meet on another NL topic, who knows we might agree on something.

Regiomontanus:
So one cannot make a honest observation without someone determining what a honest observation is? Are you reading what you are typing? An honest observation is simply what it is. LMFAO

One can honestly observe what I have said. Remember, you are mixing up scientific facts and facts together. In science, if something is true but can't be proven, it cannot be regarded as a scientific fact. In certain legal cases, a man might be acquitted in court due to lack of evidence but that doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime he was accused. Evidence must arise before he is declared guilty.

Once again, not all women. The behaviour I spoke about were not predefined but were based on my honest observations.

Good day.

Okay.

Lol. Why can't I trust the experiences of my friends or certain NL males that I find credible? If you want to really be sceptical and remove trust from the equation, can you be sceptical of the fact that op is married? Can you also the sceptical of the fact that op is a male?

Do I need to approach women to get my information? Even if I approached women, do you expect them to tell me the truth that they falsely accused a man of rape and made up stories against their husbands? Don't be silly. I got my information from my honest observation and other credible accounts(friends, family, nairalanders, etc.). I find them credible.

They are facts because I have seen them happen too many times.

I know they were true through my honest observation and other credible accounts. Besides, you need to distinguish between scientific facts and facts. Because something hasn't been proven or can't be proven doesn't necessarily mean it isn't the case. The general theory of relativity predicted the existence of gravitational waves but they were proven in 2015 and gravitational waves became a scientific fact. Prior 2015, didn’t gravitational waves exist?

If you and I were alone in my sitting room, there were no cameras around and I tapped your ass, can you prove it to a third person? No! But isn't it a fact that I tapped your ass? Of course it is! How do you know? Your honest observation and experience. When you can somehow prove it, it becomes a "scientific fact."

Hope it is not the false statistics that only 2% of rape allegations are false? Let's, for a minute, assume it's true. The fact that women have lied(as given by the 2%) and rape is a serious issue with the accused's life in danger shows that scepticism is a must.

Will start with 4 because 1-3 is not pointing to any definition.

4. Honest observation:- what is an honest observation? who determines how honest an observation is? how do you conduct one? would I be right in saying the only way to conduct one is to survey a sample of women and observe how they relate with men.

5. Something actual, not invented. How do you know the pre-defined behavior you have for women is actual? and please don't say the anecdotal experiences of your friends.

6. How do you know what you believe about women is also REAL for all women? How many women have you met? No need to answer that, you haven't met enough women on which to extrapolate a pre-defined behavior of women.

7. see number 6

8. How many people do you know men and women (to make it objective) that are substantial enough to agree with your defined behavior of women to make it an OBJECTIVE CONSENSUS? if we limit your defined behavior of women to Nigeria women alone, there are tens of millions of adult women in Nigeria and about as much men. What percentage of adult Nigerian do you know to get this information from? Remember, NL men experiences doesn't count, we don't know if the information is honest.

9. Where and how did you get your information? Did you get information from enough women for the statistics to make sense? please don"t say from your friends or on Nairaland because you are going to violate numbers 4 & 5.

I am happy you posted these nine lists. There is NO way your defined behavior of women can be a fact. For something to be a fact it has go through some scenarios (your list) to be proven as true. How did you prove your fact was true?

Again, look up the statistics of false accusation of rape vs real rape.

Regiomontanus:
I agree with you what you saying but "facts" have different meanings. I will leave a picture on the meanings of "fact". As long as it happens in reality, it's a fact. The fact I talked about are corroborated through the independent observation of many men. Experience is also one of the things that informs us. The fact that you can't pull up a scientific evidence for something doesn't mean it's not true. Besides, I never said all women were guilty of such disceit.


Lol. I don't see you as a silly person in general but misrepresentating my views and expecting me to have such scientific evidence on women are actually silly. When most women tell too many lies on this issue, do expect anyone to believe the account of the any other woman? No! I keep asking how many men falsely accuse women of rape or lie during such issues? Compare your answer to that of women.

I understand what sexism is. I have never said anything that's sexism. I have repeatedly given you reasons why women accounts on this issue are met with immense sceptism but you have ignored them. I never said all women are liars.

Not at all.

Lol. What you are referring to as facts are scientific facts. Every fact becomes a scientific facts once it has been proven. There are facts that are difficult or impossible to prove. here:

*sighs* just as I was about to type that I appreciate we were able to discuss like two matured people you went on to say "don't be silly". I am sorry but facts are not silly they may NOT align with your prejudices but they are just plain old facts. Facts has only ONE meaning, just because people say "this is a fact" a lot does not make their opinion facts. You can have opinions but you can't make up facts. FACTS: you can not have a pre-defined behavior for ALL women and then judge a woman you don't know on those stereotypes, that's sexism. You should judge a woman solely based on the contents of HER character, not on the contents of the character YOU think women have.

I can see you are already set in your views, and even if the truth hits you in the face you would still be in denial. I am not here to convince anyone, you believe what you believe. Unlike you, I don't think you are silly, I think you are too prejudiced to have a rational conversation about women. I guess we have to agree to disagree.

I will NEVER understand how a black man can not recognize sexism when it is through the same lens of prejudice that you are being judged on by a stranger. Just replace women and men with black and white and say it back to yourself. or if you are Muslim in a christian world.

You can say you are not a sexist but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

P.S. I am curious to see these nine definitions of 'fact(s)' that doesn't point to "for something to be a fact it has to be proven to be true"

Regiomontanus:
Stop trying to pretend. There are up to nine different meanings of the word "fact" in the English.

Stop being silly. What I listed were reasons why men are more sceptical about accounts given by women. I never said all women are liars instead I said most women lie greatly and very often on issues like this. The fact that most women cruelly tell lies and are manipulative is something that is corroborated by experience. Most men have this experience and/or have seen men who are victims of most women's deceit. One more misrepresentation of my write up, I am done.

How many times have you seen a man falsely accused a woman of sexual abuse? Compare that to how many times men have been falsely accused and tell me why every woman's story shouldn't be met with scepticism. Being sceptical about a woman's account doesn't mean you think she is lying. It simply means you will not believe her no matter what until concrete evidences showed up. Society used to blindly believe women but thanks to lies and deceit, woman must have evidence for their claims. It's a matter of trust. Men have earned their trust by not being known to lie on these issues while women have lot the trust society has in them on this issue — all thanks the irresponsible majority.

Can't you be reasonable and comprehend simple stuffs. One more of this nonsense and I am done with you. I never judge based on stereotypes. I clearly gave a reason why people tend to be more sceptical in women stories. You cannot eat your cake and have it. Tell too many lies and you won't be readily believed — that's natural. There is no hate or prejudice against women here.

As I have explained, unlike men, too many women lie too often with great drama, cruelty and manipulation on issues like this. That's a fact corroborated by experience.

Really? they are facts? FACTS: A fact: A fact is a truth. A fact is a statement of truth that can be verified and is able to be proven as true.

So have you put some sort of tracking on ALL women and monitor and record their behavior towards men. Have you done this observation under clinical conditions? Have you stated your hypothesis and gone on to establish your theory? and have you published said theories? and where can I read this report? Just because you say they are facts doesn't make them so.

Sexism: You have judged the stranger without even knowing all the facts just because she is woman, you judged her based on stereotypes that you think her facts (switch sex with race, may you would understand) and oh by the way some white people think for a fact black people are criminals, are not intelligent and they are savages.

So if you know not ALL women are bad why are you willing to give the man the benefit of a doubt but not the woman even though you don't know anything about both of them? Why do people say "lets hear from both sides" when it's a woman complaining but are unwilling to do the same when roles are switched? Sexism.

Regiomontanus:
It's not sexism. I am not judging based on sex. I clearly gave you reasons why such "bias" happens? They are not stereotypes. They are facts and real life experiences of many. Please read my post again.

I never said all men were good, did I? I never said all women were bad, did I? All I said was due to the bad behaviours and deceit of many women, their stories will be met with great scepticism until evidence comes out. That's all. I never said any female stranger is bad.

I am sorry but this is the definition of sexism, you are judging a person based on their sex. You refuse to give someone benefit of a doubt because of stereotypes. This isn't different from racism, where a person is judged based on their race. Some people stereotype all blacks as criminals, monkeys and dumb. Some people refuse to give a black man benefit of a doubt based on those same stereotypes.

Based on the rules of statistics, you have to know that not all men are good and not all women are bad, vice versa. So why so confident that this female stranger has to be bad, you don't know her. The only reason you have come to that conclusion, without knowing ALL the facts is because she is a woman.

Edit: While we are still on statistics, please look up the stats on false accusation of rape.

Regiomontanus:
There is no good reason or flaw from the man that can explain why a woman should behave this way except she is a terrible person? Besides, people are likely to believe men because men don't usually lie about this issue. If women want to believed, then they should stop lying. A particular gender cannot be falsely accusing people of rape, cruelly lying and pretending during marital disputes and expect people to readily believe them. You cannot eat your cake and have it.

You just proved my point. You don't know this man either. How do you know he is not lying? Men don't lie? why are you willing to give the man the benefit of a doubt but you are unwilling to do the same for the woman? since they are both strangers on the internet.

Regiomontanus:
If your post is sarcastic then don't blame me for not being able to tell because almost all girls who have commented reasoned similarly. Could it really be sarcasm or are you now claiming it is sarcasm as a cover up? I think it's the latter given your nonsensical conclusion. Am I a hypocrite? Can you list out any post of mine where I demonstrated such "hypocrisy"? Besides am I a representative of Nigerian men?

I am not a hypocrite. If a woman had been complaining of having a man beater for a husband, I would advise her to dump him ASAP. The reason why I did not ask for both sides of the story is because I believed the op story as only a terrible person would do what the op's wife did.

Finally, the reason why many men behave the way you described is because of you women. When relating marital disputes, most women go a great extent to lie, pretend and bastardise their innocent husbands as the devil while they cunningly play the victim? Some even accuse their innocent husbands of beating them; some fake their cry to gather sympathy and produce great theatrics to increase the sympathy and make themselves more believable; some even accuse the husband of molesting their daughter and even brainwash the daughter to admit this, etc. Many men are aware of how deceitful and manipulative women are when narrating marital disputes. Women can cruelly, without a nudge on their conscience, go to great extent in ruin a man's life with lies. Men are not known for that in general hence they are likely to be believed and it's women's fault for this "hypocrisy."

Are you surprised that men are not longer taking rape accusations seriously? Why is that? Because of you women. You people have exploited society's willingness to blindly believe rape accusations to falsely accuse innocent men and ruin them hence you guys are no longer taken seriously and every rape allegation is now met with immense scepticism. The fact that false rape allegations hurt real rape victims isn't enough to deter you guys — how morally bankrupt . If a man accuses a woman of rape, is he likely to be believed? Yes of course. Why? Because men don't usually lie about such. How many times have you seen a man falsely accuse a woman of sexual harassment?

If men support men on this issue and become sceptical when it comes to women, I can't blame them because they have learnt from experience how cruelly manipulative and deceitful women are with their stories and you women are to be blame for this. Did you see how pretentious and dramatical Neymar's accuser was on a TV show despite telling lies? You cannot eat your cake and have. If you lie too much, nobody believes you or takes your claims seriously. It's what it is so don't try to label men as hypocrite instead call out your fellow women.

I hope you will channel this energy to when it's a woman that reports her demon husband here on NL.

Godoverevery:
sorry to say ma....... you really sound shallow and it already say alot about you....waooo you are asking him to beg her for how long.... elderly people sud talk to her calmly cos she is a goddess.
A water beg for can never quench a thirst...

I am quoting you so this your response will be on record. You didn't even know my post was a sarcasm to expose the hypocrisy of Nairaland men. I literally just wrote what men here tell women all the time, just changed the sex.

I absolutely agree with you. However, you don't have the same response when it is a woman that wants to leave her husband because she is not happy in her marriage. In my post, just replace it woman that is what you guys tell the wives here all the time on Nairaland. All I did was expose your hypocrisy. So now that it is not a woman, divorce is no longer a western thing that foolish feminists want to copy abi?

Thank you for exposing Nigerian men for the hypocrites that they are, you can dish the advice but can't take it . See the way you are so passionate in your reply? so you know this standard BS that men here like to tell women all the time is hogwash.

Regiomontanus:
What a silly advice. No one should put up with a toxic partner. If partner is too toxic, such partner should be dumped ASAP. I know you don't like this because you are probably like the op's wife. Besides, why are you acting like the wife is an angel and can't do these things except if provoked by the husband? Have you met the wife before? Why try to turn the tables on the man?

Couldn't you have passed your message without trying to demean NL alpha males? From where did you girls get the idea that NL alpha males are simps offline? Did you stalk everyone of them? Such shaming is pointless and such reasoning, even if true, doesn't justify putting up with a toxic partner.

Lastly, he is not obliged to be like our forefathers. In fact, some of our fore fathers didn't endure to the end as they were polygamous and sent erring wives back to their parent's house. Women in the past dear not try what the op's wife did back in the days. Even if our forefathers did put up with toxic wives, it doesn't mean that the op should do the same. Toxic wives are a big NO.

What did you do to her for her to do all seven? We need to hear from your wife, we have heard your side now we need to hear the side of the wife before we can judge. There are two sides to a story.

Don't listen to the guys on this thread that are trying to break your home, most of them experience worse from their wives, yet they beg their wives for forgiveness, then they come online and form alpha male. OP while your home is broken these men go back to their wives and wash her feet.

Don't divorce her it is not African, our fathers endured and stayed married till death, you should go and look for elders she respects so they can talk to her calmly.

o dear calm down lol. We were joking!!! did you really think we thought Venza and Lexus were sharing ideas?!! why would a car marketed as luxury will want to have anything to do with their non luxury car? We also know that they are different.

amliftedhigher:
Some of you are ignorant about Rx. Rx started in 1998 while venza started in 2009. Venza was discontinued because it could not stand its competitors in the market. Rx models are the reason why lexus Toyota is the richest car manufacturing company.

Thank you for this thread. All the guys on this thread, thank you for supporting our girls. I hope they win. in recent years, Nigeria has been failing in sports I hope these girls will change that for us today.

I agree 100% Nigerians deserve their leaders.

Nigerians shout "we have poor leaders" up and down but support and vote into office known (with evidence) corrupt politicians because he/she shares same tribe with the thief.

Nigerians shout our leaders are corrupt but will steal from their bosses, mark up prices of project and support yahoo yahoo boys.

Nigerians don't hold their leaders accountable. Nigerians create a fertile environment for corrupt politicians to thrive. It's only in Nigeria where a convicted criminal in a country where rule of law works comes home runs for office and becomes a notable politician. The Westerners are not better than Nigerians in terms of corruption, a Western politician too will steal if he can. The difference? 8/10 times they can't get away with it. Here in Nigeria we reward and revere thieves.

Is kuku the same company, maybe when they discontinued the Venza, The Venza team handed their notes to the Lexus guys

Jmk9292:
Na venza with improved interior.

We learned difference between an embryo, a fetus and a baby and all the stages of reproduction in basic biology. It's not my fault you can't remember or you didn't go to school to learn it. Anyways all of this is not relevant to the thread, you are derailing it.

Miarose:
How is it a fact? I bet you read up something online to justify your position. Something that some one came up with in this our generation to defend their depravity? Pregnancy and childbirth has existed before any write-up on the internet so u can't tell me otherwise.
Besides, did the OP tell you that her foetus was not a baby despite her decision to abort?

I understand what you are saying, that's why I am agnostic. I think the mistake some atheist make is looking at theism through the lens of the Christian god or any other man made religion. The existence of God or gods cannot be proven or disproved. I believe that even if god exists he/she is not represented by any religion or beliefs on earth. All religions are man made, they are different cultural interpretations of the concept of a supernatural being. So there is no real representation of a deity on earth to make accurate comparison vis-a-vis atheism.

omokoladejames:
Naaa, I'm actually a christian.
Although i do think being agnostic is a much more honest position to hold if you have a problem with the notion God, especially if everything you've been taught about him is wrong. Just my opinion sha, I could be wrong.

I am sorry facts do NOT die!

Miarose:
Do all d abortions u want but just die this argument please.

So are you agnostic?

omokoladejames:
Aiit... let me try putting some things into perspective a bit, for clearer understanding


Basically cosmic inflation is an idea that, at it's beginning,the universe rapidly expanded by a factor atleast 10^26 in less than 10^−32 secs( thats way faster than the speed of light in a very short time).
Why do we need it? If we are to accept big bang as the origin of the universe as we know it and assume regular gravity was always the only force at work, we run into two major problems(there are a couple of other ones but these are the major ones):
a) Flatness: to keep it simple. We know(atleast to best of our understanding) our observable universe is flat(the density of matter in the universe appears "fine-tuned" to be very close to the critical value at which space is perfectly flat rather than a hyperbolic or spherical). But that's kinda of a problem because our knowledge of physics tells us that an expanding universe should not be flat, especially if it had started out even by the tiniest degree not flat.

b)Horizon Problem: Basically, completely opposite sides of the universe that shouldn't have had time to be interact are at completely the same temperature. Think of when you mix cold water into hot tea, it would take time to mix together(some parts of the tea would be hot and some parts cold for a while). Given the size of the universe,all these opposite sides shouldn't have had enough time(speed of light limitation) to interact and have the same temperature.

The Inflation idea solves both problems by giving us a force(or whatever we want to call it) that could expand the universe at speeds way faster than the speed of light in a very very short time. What this force,stuff,anti-gravity or anything we want to call it is, we just don't know. And we have no proof for it with our current scientific methods because 10^-32 sec into the beginning of the universe is as far as our theories can go and anything beyond 10^-42,everything we know about fundamental physics is thrown out the window. Most scientist just believe inflation must have happened even though we have absolutely no idea what the stuff is, what started it and why it stopped.

Actually,lets make the statement clearer. Its because of what we observe in the universe that makes the big bang not a theory of the origins of the universe but more accurately an explanation describing a series of events that happened to the universe following its existence.Basically the big bang started after inflation. Most scientist just accept inflation as what happened before the big bang even though we don't have proof or evidence for it.

So i brought this up with our friend earlier because, the notion that just because there's no evidence for God from a "proof it to me by science(because apparently cause and effects are no longer good enough)" worldview, is simply not be consistent position to hold.
I also brought up consciousness with him to make the same point. Trying to proof or test for it has been one of the most complex problem in science and philosophy till date; mainly because there's seems to be no material component to it as far as we know. But consciousness is one of the few things we are sure exist because it is part of us. If it was outside of us, there would be no way of proving it from a naturalistic point of view.

U and I can both agree that the universe seems to be fine-tuned for life to such degrees that are unimaginable. For example: if the gravitational constant alone varies by just 1/10^60, the universe would have either collapsed on itself or expanded too rapidly for any stars to have been formed. And we have many other extremely precise values from the universe at large down to most minute living organism, all of which have been independently balanced on the tip of a blade.

Of course you can chose to believe it all just randomly happened, or believe super advanced aliens from another universe sowed the seed and they might be extinct by now for all we know or that we are living in a simulation, that's all fine; but saying the believe in a Creator is irrational is not an honest opinion to me sha.
You can rightly reject the notion of God for many other personal reasons(which is understandable) but hiding behind rationality and science is not just one of them. They are both answering fundamentally different questions and not at odds with one another.

Nope. You have it backwards. It actually takes more courage to be an atheist than a theist. If you are an atheist and you are wrong, you go to hell when rapture comes. However, if you are a theist if rapture comes and you are wrong you will be fine. I know lots of ivy league peeps that know that religion doesn't make a lot of sense but the fear of hell (brainwashed) prevents them from totally refuting religion.

KingEbukasBlog:
True. They understand the implications of denying God's existence and they are afraid of that reality. To deal with the fear and soothe themselves and express their intellectual superiority , they take positions to fill the gap left by their lack of belief that are self-refuting and irrational. Brilliant move!

Please you don't need to explain yourself to strangers on the internet. Please go to a hospital, all will be well.

Djbond:
reasons for the abortion is financial instability, frustration, hard knock living and lastly, imagine living in a room apartment with 2 kids and husband making 4? How inconvenient would it be?

The pregnancy was 3 months old.

A foetus is NOT a child!

Abcruz:
Children are indeed a heritage from the LORD, and the fruit of the womb is His reward.--psalm 127:3


You were rewarded with an innocent child but you and your husband decided to kill him/her gruesomely. When some couples are praying day and night just to conceive.

A foetus is NOT a child!

ezugegere:
Human beings! You're worried about your health but you didn't care about the life of an innocent child... Odiegu!

No need sef. When there is internet and google.

Benbisco:
Shoo! It is a simple matter, look for who sabi solve maths, when you get the answer, withdraw the cash and give him 1k.

I agree with you 100% I am late to the party just joined NL.

I am happy millennial women are starting to reclaim their sexuality. For decades men have told us to be ashamed of our sexuality while they claimed theirs. What's the point of being holy when the same men will call you an 'olosho' either way. Every woman should be able to do the hell they want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone's happiness, so this leads me to the only problem I have with runs. Most rich dudes are married, even though a cheating spouse is solely responsible for cheating on his wife, however I will never support another woman indirectly causing another pain.

liberalchick:
Yawn

You keep bringing up my marital status like it’s supposed to be some sort of handicap

I am not going to go back and forth with you, I quoted you because I COULD, and you have replied even though your posts had absolutely nothing do with the thread. Now, this exchange is no longer useful to me. I will leave you in your virtual world where you believe you are king and people actually care about what you think.

This part made me laugh and "faux intellect" I was wondering who was going to read all that epistle for a simple definition of 'submissive' I blame the internet lol. Most of his posts were without logic, talking about because you are married so you shouldn't contribute to a thread you were invited to and discuss a topic that was a question posed to married people.