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Odingo1:
My engaged girl 25 years old always threaten to get a side man that will be given her enough money. If her money finish if I don’t give her money she start threatening.Is it wise to proceed with the marriage or Jappa. Scared of this altitude but in love and have gone far.Me 29 years.

you are not doing your job as the man. Simple.

livingchrist:
you didnt answer my question does weight determine, its humanness?
Can a new born baby survives on it's own?
Does that mean it's not a human?

@ go and check the meaning of manslaughter, it seems like you are new to the word. Manslaughter is not murder.

In both cases, a person dies. And the perpetrator still goes to jail.

A new born has the necessary functions to exist on it's own, not a foetus. .

livingchrist:
so an unborn baby is a nobody.
God recognised the children in the womb

Psalms 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

is God in charge of the constitution?

Seperate religion from your argument please.

livingchrist:
there should be other solutions apart from murder, fear God.

nobody is being murdered here

demmymoney:
Isaiah 3:9-12

"9 ESV: For the look on their faces bears witness against them; they proclaim their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! For they have brought evil on themselves.
10
ESV:Tell the righteous that it shall be well with them, for they shall eat the fruit of their deeds.
11
ESV:Woe to the wicked! It shall be ill with him, for what his hands have dealt out shall be done to him.
12
ESV:My people—INFANTS ARE THEIR OPPRESSORS (implies abortion on a grand scale) , and WOMEN RULE OVER THEM (implies radicalized feminism). O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths."


FOR FEMINISM TO REIGN ON THE EARTH WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE DAYS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH COS FEMINISM COMES WITH LGBTQ AND ABORTIONISTS

use new king james. Stop twisting the bible to fit your narrative. Infants and foetuses are not the same.

livingchrist:
clarify, what is the product of conception is it poo?
Does weight determine what should be a living human or not?
Miscarriages are accidental deaths of fetus not murder.

it can be a foetus or tumor. Google molar pregnancy.

The weight determines its CHANCE of VIABILITY. That's the when it is old enough to have a chance to live on its own. In Nigeria, that age is 7 months or 28 weeks. In america, it's 5months or 20 weeks.

Accidental deaths, isn't that the definition of manslaughter?

Stephenmoka4:
Tumor is never children, and never would be.

A mango seedling and a mango tree, both are different but, are phases and also living. An unborn child is also a living being and capable of dieing. I don't see why a responsible person would kill her unborn child.

but tumors are also living things. Or is the life of a tumor or mango less important? Didn't God create all living things?

livingchrist:
then what is abortion?

an abortion is the termination of products of conception due to any reason especially if it is less than 500g in weight.

Misscarriages are also abortions too. So are you saying all women who undergo a miscarriage are guilty of manslaughter?

Stephenmoka4:
The child is living, so death is a word there.

what child?

A tumor is also living. Does that mean that it should not be removed?

ePoster:
Healthwise.
If complications arise that would threaten the wellbeing of the woman, can she have an abortion?
Things aren't black and white.
If a thirteen year old is raped by her father and she becomes pregnant, a risk to her health. I see no reason why she can't have an abortion. Take christianity away, why is aborting a baby so wrong?
And if the girl survives, how good a mother do you think she would be? A child raising another. The baby would grow up begging alongside it's mother to eat. It wouldn't have a standard education or healthcare.
Who want's to live like that?
Do you think the baby would grow with love and care? or most likely hate?
How many people would support her? The hypocritical Nigerians who blame rape victims? The fraudulent churches around? The government? Even her family would case her away.

Aborting a pregnancy, not aborting a baby. A baby is the name given to an already born human being.

While it is still in the womb, especially less than the age of viability of 28 weeks in Nigeria (the age at which it can survive on it's own with or without assistance) it cannot be called a person.

It is just potential, that's all.

Abortion is not murder

elipheleh:
You lie a baby is not a parasite. He is a legal occupant the day you decide to have sex.

All of us including you the woman were once a baby. If by your words we were parasites. Then when did we stop being parasites? Science does not classify parasite on account of age.
It's either we all are old parasites or we were never parasites to begin with.

Your evil arguement tk contjnue sacrificing of babies to Molech, god of ancient Ammonites shall never stand in this country Nigeria in Jesus name.

Try it and be dealt with severely.

legal occupant?! Under which constitution?

An embryo or foetus has no rights. It depends on the mother for sustainance. It can't even breathe.

Until it is born, and can exist on it's own. It is not a person with fundamental human rights.

livingchrist:
then killing them is the solution?

abortion is not murder biko!!

Funkyswagzz:
They shud have aborted u so we can have less ppl to worry about.. don't u think?.. bro I'm really surprised u posted this.

let me redirect your energy back to you.

They should have aborted you too.

Why waste all that money on a child who cannot think for himself or thinks that trolling is a sign of intelligence.

livingchrist:
Something is wrong with this generation, human life means nothing to them.
Babies are the most vulnerable in the society, they need protection and care not bloody abortionist looking for ways to eliminate them.
Abstinence is key but humanity is selfish, self centered and destructive they only celebrate their depravity. Smh

A pregnancy, and a baby are 2 different things

livingchrist:
then killing them is the solution?

I'll tell all those unwilling mother's to start abandoning children at your doorstep since you are their defender

Just type your address here.

You will soon be mother of nations

Shortyy:
Hmm. First I answered a question based on a raped girl, I said she should go ahead and birth the child and give it to the church If she won't be able to take care of the child(in my church Catholic church, there are Rev sisters in charge of taking care of these kind of babies) it is the duty of the church.

What I'm trying to tell you here is that a child is a gift from God, and shall never be killed. Let the child grow, teach him the ways of the Lord, the sins of the mother shall not be transferred to the child.

Fornication or no fornication, God is a merciful and forgiving God. He said even if our sin is as black as a coal he'll make it as white as a snow.

Rape is not the only cause for abortion, broaden your horizon. .

So why do evil people have children if they are gifts from God? God said be fruitful and multiply! That is not a gift. It is a duty

If every child is a gift from God, then every mango, yam and cockroach is also a gift from God too.

Shortyy:
Endangered how?

Preeclampsia, gestational diabetes, placenta praevia, abruptio placentae, post partum depression, post partum psychosis, making her prone to many diseases and putting her life at risk especially during childbirth. I can mention more.

You obviously have no experience with pregnancy and pregnant women.

Go and google maternal mortality rate in Nigeria and then for developed countries like germany, them come back and type reasonably.

Shortyy:
You think hoodlums is because of what exactly? Hoodlum is a result of bad parenting.

And it is the duty of the church to take of children born from rape, or children whose mothers have nothing to take care of them. If your church don't do it, well that's bad. Means they're are not following the ways if our Lord.

The Church's duty is to take care of your rejects, really?!!!

How much do you pay your church to look after such children? Compare that to how much you spend to raise your own children(if you have any), then divide that by the number of children this church is supposed to raise.

You sound entitled in that comment. A child is meant to be raised by willing parent's to be contributing members of society, not by an institution whose purpose is to provide moral guidance.

I don't blame you for your thinking tho. Since the church likes preaching against fornication and abortion, maybe the church deserves to raise abandoned children that would have been spared much suffering if a condom was used or an abortion done. That should be their punishment.

Very disappointing argument

ePoster:
virginprincess
and the rate of unwanted children would reduce. People already fornicate. Corruption?
if it's legalized, why would anyone go to a quack doctor?
fornication is a big sin before God. Since we can't stop that, let's address the topic of quelling it's negative effects.
Is self_defense also murder?
Plus I'm an atheist. Convince me with something else.
nope.

Shortyy:
They should give birth to the baby, and as they might not be financially ready to take care of the child, the child should be taken care of by the Church until the mother is ready.

A child is a gift, no matter how it came about.

No it is not. It is a crying, Shitting, dependent burden. The church is not a parent, a charity, an orphanage or a nanny. Children are expensive to raise. A majorreason why we have so many hoodlums around is because someone made poor decisions years ago and brought a child onto the world that he/she was not ready to raise properly, believing that God will provide.

virginprincess:
Abortion should never ever be legalised in this part of the world ,here are my reasons. 1) If abortion is legalised in nigeria that means the rate of forunication and corruption would go high, some people don't forunicate for fear of pregnancy. 2) The death rate of young girls would sky rocket, because we have many quack doctors and abortion kills. 3) It is a very big sin before God, and no religion should encourage abortion, the girl, the boy, and the doctor are all murders in the sight of both man and God. I hope with these few point of mine, have being able to convise you and not confuse you that abortion should never be legalise in nigeria.

You didn't convince anyone of anything.

Point No1: how does this point make sense? You think the rate of fornication is low? Fear of pregnancy stops only the ignorant and brainwashed from fornication. If your point were true, then no one will fornicate at all.

point No2: this is totally wrong. If abortions were legalized, that means every girl and woman can walk into a hospital to get one. That's less chances of it being done by a quack. This is why women don't die of abortions in developed countries, because only licensed professionals do it. This will reduce the death/morbidity rates. Let me give an analogy.

If operations like appendectomies were to become illegal in Nigeria, many people will die because even though doctors know how to do the surgery, they won't because it is against the law. This now creates opportunity for quacks to make money illegally by saying that they will do the operation and name thier price. And the patient will be in too much pain and desperation to refuse.

point No3 : The fact is that the pregnancy in the womb is not a person, it has no rights, it is a parasite that has half of the host's DNA.

Moreover, did God whisper in your ear that abortion is a sin? Quote scripture and verse from any holy book.

Kobicove:
Only wimps kiss and tell

Amen to that!!

Shortcut2life:
How have you guys been coping with it ?
*That believe that one has to go to school and graduate to get a good job
* That believe that one has to have a car and house to be comfortable and ready for marriage
* That believe that one has to possess some qualities to be a wife or husband materials
* That believe on the need to reproduce so that your offspring can inherit your properties
* The discrimination of one’s religion
* The discrimination of ones races ,tribes and skin color
This is just a few ......
Coupled with that fact Nigeria as whole is not making adulting an easy task it is very Herculean ..
Everything is just depressing and frustrating with the constant needs to have money ..
My Old man try Walai Na just now I sabi why that man they always leave house early in the morning come back late for night and it doesn’t stop..

How are you guys managing your adulting or youthful life ...

you are in your 20s, aren't you?

AstroG:
You that is Wealthy and not Lazy,do giveaway for us na

expecting handouts from the apparently wealthy is what keeps poor people poor

SpeciMental:
What a crappy post in so many ways. First off, zzor, try typing like a graduate. Always leave a space after each punctuation i.e. comma, dot, etc. Also know when to start a paragraph, it makes your post legible.
Second, so you mean to tell me you went to the market by yourself, bought a cream with your money, used your own hands to rub on your body, everyday for months and turned around to blame men for that. How foolish.
The reason you did all that was because you don't believe you can make yourself valuable enough to attract a man and so your lack of self-esteem made you focus on faking your body.
Just so you know, each man has his specs and some like them light skinned. But let me tell you truth, no man in right mind, not even those that prefer light-skinned will ever be turned on by bleached skin, being so disgusting because its glaringly fake, and sometimes smells.
The best thing any lady can do for her skin is an even tone, spotless and glowing skin with perfect hygiene.
As for me, I'd pick a highly intelligent, high-flying achiever virgin girl, with aforementioned skin features, all natural (even hair)and a banging physique( if you know what I mean), ebony shade than any bleached mass of flesh.

#Unemotional, purely Mental from the unapologetic SpeciMen#

there's no spacing between your paragraphs you grammar nazi. It's causing a headache reading your writeup.

@bolded, your standards are very high which is not bad. But hopefully when you find such a woman, will you'll be the type of man she wants? I wish you the best.

Fasholu:
Women should rather learn some confidence, rather than taking the seemingly easy way out. Everyone has got excuses for their actions

She does have a point tho. Not the part blaming men for liking lightskinned women more, although it is what drives people to bleach. Women propagate the bleaching propaganda too.

Then there's this whole, 'White good and Black bad/White angel and black devil' trope that is promoted to everyone. This perpetuates internalised self hate, rascism, and colorism

Although i shun it. I don't judge those who do it.

Many people have been denied opportunities, such as jobs just based on thier looks especially because they are darker in complexion.

I have been on both sides.

The thing is this. Those who bleach will end up in the doctors' office anyways. It's a free world.

ubunja:
I understand you're a nurse. Stay safe out there don't get yourself infected with this Corona virus.

Thanks. I do try.

Please protect yourself to protect others. Lost a classmate to the virus this week

ubunja:
Posting the next writeup after this one gets 100 Likes.

long time. Hope you are also going to talk about the opposite side of the equation- How having no father figure brings out feminine men.

I read the first 2 comments before getting it.

No time abeg.

Like 2 mins i guess.

The fact that he wants to settle down by December is a red flag.

Dors your friend also want to settle down by then.

She needs to know him a little bit more and come out straight to ask why he wants to marry so quickly

That I'm a rich girl forming street.

If only they knew

hinere:
Why is my spirit telling me "IT'S NOT COVID" becos any person that dies this time, they tag as COVID.

During the heat of the pandemic, even if you have just mild cough, they tag as Covid-19.

Tomorrow the govt will say all those he treated should present themselves for testing then later pronounce them Covid-19 positive.
Just another strategy of theirs.

Or will use this opportunity to interrogate the Nurses and staff into revealing Vital information that they have not been able to get from the doctor or the hospital.

Or then close down the Hospital.

I smell a rat. Something is really fishy.

If the government can pay hoodlums to scatter the protest and cause havoc in the city, they can do anything.

This government are really out to destroy but our GOD pass them big time. God please keep your people away from the sight of theses evil blood sucking demons.

please, don't speak ill against him.

He died of COVID comlpications on Sunday.

After many years of celebrating no death in our class.

He is gone.

There's been increasing cases of COVID-19.

I PERSONALLY HAVE REFERED SOME POSITIVE MEMBERS TO ISOLATION CENTRES.

He had plans, and a future, and dreams to further his career like the rest of us.

So I'll never see his comments on the groups again.

I pray for his loved ones to have the strength to grieve and mourn.
I pray that the memories he made with us are not forgotten.