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There are too many loopholes in this system....and all because of politics based on tribalism.

Nigeria is an experiment the whole is watching...and I think if we are to survive this, we need to cut off the expectations of world-powerful nations. We need to shock the whole world.

Tinubu himself is a product of the Nigerian mistake. A product of the Nigerian tribalism...amd corruption. Likewise Buhari...and even Peter Obi Pandora and Atiku the main thief.

Nigeria should split now. This is the joker. If we do this, some of the nations from this present Nigeria will align with the US and its allies, while one or two with BRICS. This is where we will confuse the whole world. And then, we bareNaija. We know how to roll it.

But if we keep playing their game by being together cos that's what they want, we will not make it.

If we split, we will have control over our resources better. We will demand accountability better than what we are doing now. Our greatest weakness is what we have refused to accept. We can not be US in unity. Let us accept that we are so many, and we can't work well together. Let us split..and then come back to a formal partnership.

Believe me...let's try this. Nigeria cannot work on the present path Awo, Zik, and Balewa gave us. These three guys did not consider the whole of the South-South...Niger Delta...and even Egun in Lagos. Believe me, they have no plan for North Central when they put Nigeria together. There are so many things wrong with this present Nigeria.

Accountability is what we need and cannot be achieved in Nigeria. Period!

Forumites:
if he was a British pastor boss what will you say. I can’t judge and I’m an Anglican by Christian birth and what I’m saying is that if he was to be a white British offspring would this come up. I have been around the globe trust me these guys do worse. We must not take our own to the gallows. Tell them to return our stolen heritage first.

Christ! So you have watched his old videos and still saying this. Omo...eh! Joshua has happened to you. I am having my fun knowing those who are easily manipulated. See eh...you are a candidate for such business model. We will soon reach out to you soon. You can't escape it cos I know you are weak.

luminouz:
You are always saying rubbish!! Why can't you be logical for once? What do I expect from your mouth though?

Ooops! This guy again?

Mr Lecturer . No wonder. You too you are a Joshua's discipline. No wonder you are a Federal government blackmailer. Wow! You learned very well from Joshua.

I told you then...no one needs to look far to know you need help.

I will reach out to you boy when another set of people with Joshua's business manipulative model is out. They will make yoy a disciple..and even set up a yeye lab for you....though, they know your researches are rubbish...dont worry...they will keep funding you cos they know you have no will of your own to resist them. You are chained for life. They are reading. You are a dead meat already..but you will think you are somebody.

ItShallPass:
I don't know much about Oyakhilome. But I knew him in his early days to be a true man of God. These days, I don't even know what he does. But TB Joshua has been known to be a satanist from the beginning.

Search for the videos of Oyakhilome and T.B. Joshua were doing yeye miracles together. The videos are online.

Lol...the main reason Nigeria cannot work.

Klinxmanz:
ladies which category of guys will u choose "handsome broke guys or rich ugly guys"

How can you be broke and be clean like the guy in the pic? Na waooo

Is Segun Arinze ugly that no one will want him as his guy?

No one who is rich can ever be ugly. May not be handsome like a model, but such will look good.Know this and have peace.

bitbillionaire:
Poverty? What is that? I don't have such word in my dictionary. Anyway, enjoy yours bro.

I guess you really don't understand where I am going, and you are still shocked. This false hope is dangerous. Know the truth to be free. You have no future in Nigeria.

Son, since I was born, we have been praying for Nigeria. My parents' church prayed every Sunday and weekday program for it. Even every morning and night devotions, my parents prayed. I grew up praying for Nigeria believing it will be well someday.

The day I stepped out of Nigeria in my 20s was the day I got my deliverance. I am not a kid now son.

Looking back, I understand why our prayers cannot work. On top...the population keeps exploding.

See eh! I pray God opens the door for you to leave Nigeria. That's my prayer for you. Nigeria has no hope. I will advise you to make wealth for yourself. Please check my thread and find out how to make wealth. Make wealth and let Nigeria be. If not, poverty will show you shege.

ItShallPass:
Please post links to the old videos. Let the evil msn be exposed.

Use YouTube and Google.

Who doesnt know T.B. Joshua in those days?

But I respect him ....how he polished his English....those white around him did a good job.

Oyakhilome is another as.shole. all those healing school....jerry curl hair...and bla bla bla...demons. i dont know how people believe these guys. Oyakhilome started well...but he is into deep demonic manifestation these days.

INTEGRITYA1:
Back to sender, I was responding to you because I thought you're a sane mind.

I'm not against going to abroad or traveling out but I will like to tell you that; we're not all abroad frick.

Bye.

Like I predicted, you have not gone outside Nigeria, yet, running your mouth like you know what wealth and poverty are. Anyway....enjoy your poverty.

Peace!

bitbillionaire:
No. It hasn't gotten to that stage yet even though there are pockets of insecurity here and there but it's surmountable at least for now.



Yes. My believe in Nigeria's potential as one United entity is unshakeable. And it's not too late for Nigeria to become great. With enough determination on the part of the leaders and the citizen It's just a matter of time

Enjoy your poverty!

INTEGRITYA1:
To me, if he is found guilty. He should go and that will serve as example to others and make them to sit right.

So, why were you defending him? He didn't deny the allegations....he was trying to say he is a shareholder and not director of the company. A company that is a private entity. Lol. If Edu is sacked, he needs to be sacked too. Dem never start at all, they are already embezzling. Ordinary passport collection automation is why you all are hailing him. The guy has killed his political career. Na his enemies asked him to steal Naija's money?

I guess my questions have twisted your brain in the right direction.

For you saying poverty is bad, Yes poverty is bad and that's not my own portion but where you see poverty in my comments kept me wondering.

Poverty is your portion if you remain in this present Nigeria. It is a fact I am telling you. It is not by confessing positively alone. Get out of Nigeria if your papa or mama isn't a politician. You don't know you are poor because you have not gone out. I am not insulting you...I am telling you the truth. The day you land abroad, you will weep for Nigeria. Period.

TruthsFM:
Bbc is full of lies and propaganda. No one take them serious at all.

Forumites:
BBC. Always pokenosing into naija affair. Till now dem never tell us how princess diana take die… or how the late queen was a kleptomaniac until her death. Idiats. You guys should return all the stolen artifacts you looted from Nigeria.

Na to just dey use you enjoy ones day.

So, you still think Joshua is a good man despite all his old videos out there. Chai! Joshua has really happened to you. Nigeria has happened to you. Eee yaaa! Wow!

You need to be rehabilitated fast.

bitbillionaire:
Can cutting a snake into pieces change the snake to something that is no longer a snake?

Nigerians of all tribes, religion and social background are almost irredeemably corrupt in addition to being religious and ethnic bigots and nepotistic. So I doubt if dividing the country can change anything that much.

I have searched deeply for the real problem with Nigeria, and I think I have got it. You may disagree... it's ok.

Initially, I thought it was corruption...while I agree corruption is a cancer, there is something aiding corruption. Remove that thing and corruption will start dying. Tribalism is the answer. Tribalism is why a group of people will want a known thief to rule them because their tribe has not ruled for a long time....and tribalism is why a tribe will keep forcing its own tribe despite dullards coming out of the place. Separate the country and see if corrupt people of my tribe and your tribe can go away freely like they used to.

Can we try it?

The only incidence that can make me support the break up of Nigeria is if Northern muslim terrorists take terrorism to such a dimension that security of lives, properties and businesses of southerners living and doing their business in the south is no longer guaranteed. At that point if you talk about break up of Nigeria I will support it.

When will it not happen? So, do you want to wait till they penetrate and overpower you till you realise their goals? Na waooo! If you are waiting for them to chain you finally, then, you can't see the reason Nigeria cannot prosper cos to me it seems you are the type who does nothing until you are totally overpowered

Corruption, marginalization and what have you are not enough reason for us to break up unless the terrorist acts of Northern muslim fanatics have reached unbearable point.

If you prefer to live in poverty, good luck to you. Cos all you listed up will keep making you poor. Those who have seen the light will keep japa-ing because because like you cannot see. You will now see.

I believe there is still hope for Nigeria. The country at the moment is still salvageable if we are serious. One united, peacefully and prosperous Nigeria is better for Africa and the black race as the country has a potential to be a force to reckon with on the global stage

Keep hoping. The same hope your people had and kept doing the same thing...keep doing it. 50 years is just like 5 years... before you know it...it is already late.

We need to educate many and they need to buy into seeing that Nigeria cannot work again; otherwise, nothing we can do. Cos many have been chained like you, this is why smart ones are japa-ing. And we will keep wishing you the best.

You think Nigeria has a potential to reckon with? Lol. Since 1960...Mehn... that's over 60 years dream. You believe a hope giving to you by Zik, Awo and Balewa? Na waoo. Guy..Poverty has made a home inside you. Fact!

If you think you can have a united Nigeria with those extreme northern Muslims, you will definitely die in poverty in Nigeria.

Poverty!!! Far away from me.

Lol..

It is not too late to get a DNA sample from Joshua's graveyard to prove us all wrong.

I said it many times....the old videos of Joshua are out there where he displayed his magic openly. Lol. Guy man saw that he would make more money with another strategy; so he rebranded himself.

I repeat...you need to check your head if you keep saying Joshua is innocent...or you have asked why BBC is just releasing the videos. The story we heard was that he poisoned himself when he realised the BBC had started the interview. How can he get out of it? The old videos are there na. I dont care if he poisoned himself or not. T.B. Joshua is fake...period.

You are a f.ool if you still attend his church.

Image123:
It's management, not seminary. A good manager would not sack a good performer, except that performer is doing something very bad to the detriment of the whole team. The manager must also look at the options on ground to make a good decision, not everything is emotion.

So Tunji-Ojo is the only option on ground. Right? Na waooo! If he suddenly died today (God forbids it), no other option....abi? Mehn! Out of 300 million people...Tunji-Ojo who is trying to automate collection of passport is the only one for the job. If he doesnt automatic it...what else is he supposed to do? mehn!

Show me with real example of a corrupt good manager who achieved so much positively since you refused to answer my questions. Show me just one.

Mehn! The best you hope for is the least a corrupt man can give you.

I pray that you find yourself outside Nigeria because you are in bondage. When we say Nigeria is finished...it is not the land area or the ocean there. You are a typical example of the finished Nigeria.

Please, don't quote me again if you don't have a real example of what I asked you here...and if you still cannot answer all my previous questions..scram. I will attend to you if you do what I have asked you...otherwise...it is foolish to discuss with a victim of poverty.

God bless!

INTEGRITYA1:
What do you mean by THESE ARE THE HELPLESS PEOPLE?

May be you have comprehension issues or you should go back and read my comment again.

I said hope this man will not be affected by this scenario I didn't say he should be spare if eventually found guilty.

Also going by what you also said we are all seeing his efforts so far, how did that different from my opinion that; he's one of the best performing Ministers?

And you also said he's not the only person who can do the job, we all agree but for the fact that we are all seeing the results of his efforts within the short period and they're obvious for all to see, that's why people are talking about his contributions so far.

We all witnessed Aregbesola tenure where there was nothing to show for his wasted 8 years

I have read your view, but I have some questions for you.

1. If he is found guilty of the corruption that he is accused of (the same reason Beta Edu is presently suspended), are you suggesting that he should be left alone because he is trying to automate the system?

2. Do you think there is no other person who can automate the passport issuing system?

3. If there is a blueprint of how to automate the system, do you think he is still the only person who can do it?

4. If he truly stole the money just like Edu...is he a good person?

Hmmm! Nigeria is finished. Mehn! Because Aregbesola is an as.shole under dullard Buhari...so even if Ojo steals...he is a saint...right? Poverty is bad. Mehn!

firearcher:
Whoever you are, you don't know me, where I have been and what I know.
Your ranting here only truly betray your level of inferiority complex.

May I never know anyone comfortable with the chain of poverty and sees those who want a good life for them as having an inferiority complex. Nope. I prefer the good life in the EU and America. I don't want the poverty you have been chained to in Nigeria. If that is an inferiority complex...I still prefer it.

All these countries you tout as your paradise on earth have their myriads of problems and even the citizens of these nations are not holding hands and celebrating their perfect lives.

If Nigeria is your own paradise, good luck. Live in gour poverty alone. Good for you. Still..I prefer the live there. Shikena.

Son, I can see you have not travelled out. What a pity. Mehn! What a wasted life you are presently living. Chai.

Some people just love to totally put down Nigeria and overpraise these western nations forgetting that they were not built in a day. Simply because they offer them some benefits Nigeria don't offer.

Stockholm Syndrome at work. You are suffering in Nigeria and defending it. Wow! Some are so unfortunate to come into this world. Wow! The most unfortunate issue is that they don't even want to experience a good life because they have been chained to poverty. Wow!

Nigeria has her problem but she is NOT finished and will get better with time.

Nigeria as a land area is not what I am concerned about. I am concerned about you and other people in it. Life expectancy in it is 55 years. Mehn! You are finished.

A beg....don't quote me again. Poverty ....far away from me in Jesus' name. I don't want your "poverty" mentality and the unwillingness to get out of it. A sign of poverty is when you do the same thing over and over with the same failed results. And you keep doing it.

Please.... don't mention me again. I wish you whatever life you get and whatever the result of the hope you are dreaming with the same failed strategy you have been using since 1960.

Poor people are the worst one can try to help. They just love poverty!

Take care!

Flier:
The Job that has been there since 1999 and nobody was able to do it and now you are telling me you know someone who can do it
Go and sack him,the fact is we are helpless as a country and we need more of him rather than sacking him

Wow!

Stockholm syndrome at work.

Nigeria is finished.

sonature1:
Oga, this isn't about any future. That's a fact. Millions of people benefit from this dysfunctional country and have turned out to become the wealthiest among us.

We are 300 millions in Nigeria. 1 million is 1/300. So, are you saying that 1/300 million of the people benefit from it?

Son, you keep showing you have not travelled out of Nigeria. Believe me...you are in the dark.

Those people would give anything to keep this country one. This is something your emotions wouldn't let you understand because you lack emotional intelligence.

Exactly my point.

Read my past post...I cannot repeat myself. Here is the link:
https://www.nairaland.com/7964830/ypp-gives-tinubu-48-hours/1#127867990

Kei144:
Even if we split, the resulting nations will be populated by the same Nigerians of today. We will still see the same performance.

Not all. Some will definitely not make it.

My prediction:
At the initial stage (the first 8 years...two terms for presidents) I am sure the majority of the north will have the same fate as Niger...they won't find it easy...but they will prosper in Agric. Also, South-South will face ethical issues there cos they have many issues there. Too many tribes there too. Lagos will try to pull other SW into prosperity. Also, all eastern states will form a good alliance. Igbos will prosper.

When the ones doing bad see the ones doing good, they will want to catch up also. And I think we will then form an effective strategic partnership that will make us prosper.

firearcher:
Many have been saying this for decades and Nigeria still stands. I get it. They feel hopeless.
But many times we over-exagerate our problems and underestimate our capacity for survival.

Wow! Nigeria has really blocked your brain. Let me try if I can open it.

Do you think those milking Nigeria will let it get to 100% destruction? No way. Cancer kills .....but do you think many in stage 4 feeling the pain want to keep living? Nope. Most want to die so the pain can stop...and it is better. But to keep living in pain..may we not experience it. This is Nigeria. It will not be totally destroyed because the natural resources in it will not dry. Do you think France will let Niger be prosperous? Do you think uranium in Niger will dry?

Guy...when we say Nigeria is finished, we are saying the people in it are finished. They are "walking dead". Your life is hopeless except you get out of Nigeria. How many new cars are in Nigeria? Are you all cursed that you don't deserve a good life like EUs?

We "over-exaggerate" Nigeria's problem? You haven't stepped out of Nigeria so you don't know what is wrong with you. You are "walking dead" indeed. What a pity. RIP.

sonature1:
Quote me when Nigeria has split 🥱🥱🥱🥱

A signal of a man without a future but he thinks he has one.. won't realise it until it is too late. A signal of a man who does the same thing despite having the same failed results many times. What is the end? Poverty has come to make a home in him.

Good luck!

PussyKing:
Oga which one you don see eyes since?

Is it not better to have someone work for the people and loot than have someone who doesn't work, doesn't care yet looting

Wow!

No nation can survive this comment. Wow!!!

Nigeria is finished. This is why Nigeria must split. Wow!!!

sonature1:
Stop this wishful thinking. Nigeria will not split.
What keeps this country going is the oil and gas. The only thing that can end this country is when the resources are exhausted.

If you aren't born in the 40s to the latest 1985, don't ever quote me again.

Nigerians' problem is not oil and gas...it is the 190X amalgamation. If you are not in the age bracket, shut up...your parents are the ones I can talk with.

The day they get exhausted, that will mark the end of pseudo country. Until then, every citizen will try to steal as much as they can from the system, so nobody should blame Madam Edu. Her problem is that she was caught in the act.

Nigeria will not run out of mineral resources in the next 100 years...and you won't be alive by then. Stop deceiving yourself. And it will keep getting poorer. It is like saying Niger will run out of uranium and France will stop raiding them. Like saying SA will run out of gold. Since when? Dey play.

Don't worry. You will understand this point when you are my age. Dont worry.

Good luck!

Tunji-Ojo is not the only person who can do the job...though, we all can see his effort. However, he is gone. He is just a thief like all of them. No matter how you want to show you are good, you cannot be good when you are corrupt. Tunji-Ojo like most Nigerians are corrupt.

The below comments are signals of helpless people. I feel for the individuals below cos they don't even know good from bad. The signal is clear that Nigerians are ready to accept suffering for the rest of their lives. They just want their passport and get out of Nigeria.

PussyKing:
Suspend the only performing minister
Okay they craze ooo

INTEGRITYA1:
Hope this man will not be affected with this Scenario, one of the best performing Ministers.

Unlike Aregbesola who occupied the same portfolio and just announcing public holidays for good 8 years.

sukkot:
otilo. Thank God I collect my passport before dem sack am. Watch as it goes back to 2 year wait before collecting passport 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Flier:
They want to suspend the only good man that ever comes out Nigerias politics ?
Good luck .

And this comment....hmmmm....you are right sir. It is better to stay out of politics for now.

HeavenlyHolines:
The level of system corruption in Nigeria can turn saints to sinners.

Nigeria is finished. It cannot survive this. Never.

Osita himself was not a saint when he was a minister; so he is just mischievous saying this issue reveals deep systemic issues. Nope...this issue reveals nothing we had not known. Rather, these issues and many to come are telling us that the time to split is now. Nigeria needs to split. Each region should go make or destroy itself. Period.

Nigeria has got too many challenges...and the recent one is drug addiction. I remember how Russia fought it. In those days, there wasn't a market in Africa, but the profit they make in Africa is so high now. The drug is going to destroy the future of Nigeria.

Parents....if you refuse to teach your kids well.....trust me...they aren't safe again. Train them well.

In the next 10 years, you all will be shocked by the way guns will be accessible to everyone. So you know what that means? When most people are also high!!! Gun killings will be extremely high in Nigeria.

There is no solution to this thing other than Nigeria should quickly start functioning well. And Nigeria will NEVER function well because of tribalism. So, Nigeria should save itself by splitting now. Peter Obi should align with those seeking Biafra. Yoruba should move away...and Hausa too should form its nation. South-South can create two or more nations from their region....as they wish.

Nackzy:
It's a good thing but the test should be free of charge

Nigeria cannot function because of people like you. If it is free, who should cover the cost? God in heaven? Or a government that cannot pay minimum wage? Maybe your dead great-grandparents. Dem curse you with free things?

MisterBanny:
I expect the appropriate Authorities to subject the Pablo Escobar in Aso Rock to Drug test first before trying to intimidate the Innocent students. Can the VC of that sch swear that he has never done drugs in his life?
Tinubu is the Grand patron

The appropriate whatever authority is dysfunctional because Nigeria isn't working...and the school has taken it upon itself to go ahead. It is a good decision son.

Son...drug kills...stop using drugs...stop taking it...and stop defending your friends taking it. You won't know today...but in 5 to 10 years, you will be a shadow of yourself. Trust me...you are "Walking Dead".

Lol

This borrowing is a real blessing....I have been praying that Tinubu should run down Nigeria asap. Nigeria needs to stop existing asap if the present Nigerians will live a life worth living. Cos as long as Nigeria exists, Nigerians cannot have a quality life. Those live agter Nigeria splita are the ones who will enjoy it.

Sophia does not need this money...this is the truth. Lol. She only wants to make David suffer. But the truth is that David doesnt really care that much seeing the little girl. Lol. When he keeps rubbing Chioma in other baby mamas' faces..... Shopia should find love elsewhere and forget about David if she doesnt want to waste her life. David pays or he doesnt pay futher (cos he is already paying enough), Sophia should go settle down with someone else....if not...she will pay a big price in the nearest future.

The cash is too small for David....and also..Sophia does not need it. This is the truth. Someone shld advise her to settle down with someone else asap and show David she has moved on....whether he pays ir he doesnt. It is for her good. If she doesn't let David finally out of her life, she will not have peace for the rest of her life....while David will continue his jumping around lifestyle. Wetin cpncern me sef?

Anyone who needs this BBC whatever to know who T.B. Joshua is needs to have his brain checked. Like for real? You need this BBC report to know T.B. Joshua is an as.shole?

Honestly, whenever I see his old videos, I laugh at the human race. Listen...you can manipulate people. Humans are the easiest to tame. As in ... for real? You saw the way "abrakatabra" dey do his magic in those videos and you still dey go that demonic place? Humans are so careless.

I ask again...who needs this BBC documentary to know the real T.B. Joshua? If you answer yes...you are just a pawn. Lol.

fergie001:
It will.

It will work ONLY if your tribe is there....right? But if another Fulani or Yoruba man takes over from Tinubu...it will not work...right? No matter how incompetent your teibe man is or competent that Yoruba or Fulani man is. Right? OK...we must by force get the competent man from your tribe to work.

A beg... let's stop here.