Crauxx:
Once the meat is cooked, the boiling water should destroy all organisms in the meat.
No cause for alarm

And what about possible toxic chemical contamination from the dirty floor or that fvcking horrible black water?

Microbes aren't the only deadly thing that could be there.



I don't understand why we can't make the simple decision to live with dignity in this part of the world. Everything just has to look ugly and dirty!

Abeg wtf is hallelujah challenge?

Many of the guys forming Naija patriots have no goddamn idea what it takes to be a scientist or to be a high tech inventor. Modern science HEAVILY requires money.

Let me break it down:

So, you have a great idea or a hypothesis that's testable. First you need to make samples, then you characterize your samples, obtain data, analyse, draw conclusions. If successful, you make some breakthrough.

Economics 101 of Modern Experimental Science:

Stage 1: Make samples: In modern science, most need grade III clean rooms which runs into hundreds of thousands of dollars, film making equipment from simple thermal evaporators to MBEs equipped with expemsive in-situ xterisation tools like RHEED, mass spectrometer, ion gauges etc which runs into millions of dollars. And of course, many of these equipment run under UHV environment which requires TMPs, Cryo pumps, Ion pumps, etc. All together stage 1 is in millions of dollars of investment.

Stage 2: Xterisation: Most standard materials characterisation centers in the world have XRD, SEM, HRTEM, ARPES, SQUID, SIMS... the list is almost endless. A cold emission gun TEM is more than a million dollars. Many of these equipment are easily $500k per piece. You also need service contracts for each of them!

That's exactly why scientists apply for grants well into the million dollar regime.

Now, let's to back to Oshiorenoya, who I've known his story for almost 2 years now, I remember he did his 1st PhD in Optical Microscopy, can't remember his second. A simple Google search will show you the state of the art equipment necessary to do research in such field. None of the universities in Naija have these equipment. Even if they wanted it, they can't afford it.

To state it bluntly, if Oshiorenoya stayed in Naija, his dreams would be dead and gone. If you stay in Naija, it doesn't matter how smart you are, how quickly you read Cohen-Tannoudji's 2 Volume tome on non-relativistic quantum mechanics, you will never have access to the equipment, services and funding necessary for you to make it.

It's a fucking fact!

Our government has basically condemned every person whose dream is to become a scientist, a high tech engineer, etc etc to broken people who have no choice but to hustle around, doing sh!T jobs that's beneath their skill set, all because they have no interest in funding quality education.

In good societies, 25 year olds are making breakthroughs in the field of quantum optics, information theory, etc etc. Some Chinese guy who's less than 40 lead a team that smashed the record for longest distance of beaming quantum entangled photons, paving way for un-hackable communication.

While our youth rot away. The next generation would most definitely go the same way... and the next.

Lesson: if you love your STEM inclined child, fight for his future! Fight for good education in this country. Else, your children's dreams would suffer the same date as yours!

The result of poor education, poverty and unchecked population explosion leading to low emotional intelligence, poor societal values... you can fill in the rest.

It doesn't matter if this story is true or if the lady tells lies. The truth is many children suffer such fate in our society.

The average Nigerian couple is a slave owner. The average Nigerian treats a socioeconomically disenfranchised person, his fellow citizen, like worthless trash.

Yet they scream racism at every given opportunity.

A truly disgusting society we live in!

It wouldn't even take a week to find the culprits and charge them but they didn't; instead, the fücking illiterates in charge of this nation hurriedly issued an official apology to their religious masters which, of course, they know is a huge national embarrassment.

It's really annoying to be ruled by idïots and there's not a thing one can do about it.

They didn't even bother to normalize it against state population. That would be more illuminating.

But, it's not like we even have reliable population data to start with.

Voodoo data analysis.

Premise: these schools offer quality education.

Discussion:

Nigerians are foolish people.

This is simple fucking basic education that everyone should have. Instead of demanding from the government to standardize basic education across the nation, they do the opposite. They praise people and organizations who turn basic education into a purely capitalist, for profit enterprise. They praise these schools and hope they make lots of money (by any means possible of course!) to send their kids there.

You see the quality of basic education that Scandinavian countries, the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc offer their kids for next to nothing, then you'll understand why we are a failed nation.

It's of no use if less than 1% of the population (whose parents are in the rich) gets a good education as we only perpetuate the cycle of poverty and ignorance. In the end, many of these "well educated" students leave the country and the nation remains weak and poor.

Ajet001:


You're right boss

But in 2016 some kids from lagos state claimed Gold and Bronze in south africa among 100 smarts kid from around the world.
I think private schools are a way doing better ..


Did i remember to tell you that i attended a public secondary school

Lol. I don't know the competition but I surely know the outcome of that competition isn't representative of what the actual reality is. Our kids are smart and have the potential to be as good as the rest but, as I said, they don't have the teachers.

Of course public secondary school was the norm in our time. We all go public school.

Now parents are using their entire savings to get their children to learn the basics: speaking English and finding dy/dx. Weyrey government!

Ajet001:

I tell you
The highest score in Nigeria then, i don't think it's up to 3/10

You should watch the movie based on the IMO competition: X + Y.

We don't have the teachers (at the secondary school level) to teach our very smart kids number theory and stuff, and drilling them with hard problems.

It's just the simple stuff we do in Cowbell Math Competition: plug in numbers into a formula and get the answer. No need to think deep.

I never succefully solved a full IMO question.

This isn't even about infidelity. It's about being completely fucking stupid! Well, apart from the case of the husband being impotent.

I just can not understand why Naija women don't use contraceptives regularly + insisting on protection.

If they did, our population would probably be half of what it is. I'm willing to wager that up to half of our jobless youths were unplanned/unwanted babies.

This is why sex education is important!

vantage001:

But you will never have the unity. It will not happen in a million years, because you are a nation where illiterates dictate your national direction.
Why would the president boycott an Isreali meeting because of far-away Palestine? An illiterate government is what it is.
You are just wasting your time and your future trying to patch Nigeria up.

Don't mind these guys. They don't seem to understand.

We are a small and weak nation, we don't need to get involved in picking sides (Arab league vs Israel, Saudi vs Iran, etc) and making enemies when we need not. We should only look to work with ALL of them to gain their knowledge, skills, etc.

It's only when our nation has amassed wealth and power that we can pick sides.

But since we are being led by an illiterate religious bigot assisted by a pastor with no guts, we'll suffer the consequences.

banmee:


It's miles and I am a soldier

Damn! Time to adjust my target.

banmee:


What am i enjoying? Plenty. Been married almost 20 years and it's like we just met yesterday. It's simple really. Just make sure that elements of what you like in your spouse are there before you marry him/her. For me it was kindness, sexual compatibility, and being pleasing to the eye. One very important factor in a marriage is sexual compatibility. As the years go by it gets harder and harder to keep up so you got to spice it up. I love the way my wife still looks almost the same way she did when we met. Flat tummy and all. It's just crazy. She is probably one of the most beautiful women in the world. I am a health nut and so is she. I can run a 2 mile in 15 minute but she does it in 14. That's how fit she is. At 40 fa. Not many 20 years olds can do that. To add honey to the tea, she's gave me 3 strapping boys who are guaranteed to be super models when they grow up if they so choose. Hehehehehe . Seriously though, if i had to do it over again, i'd marry her in a heartbeat.

That being said; we fight on occasion. Marriage is not a bed of roses. The most important thing to realize is that things like that will happen. Think about it; if you can fight with your siblings then you can definitely have one with your spouse. Some days i'd feel like choking her out when she starts pissing me off but when i compare her abnormal days to her normal days it's pretty much 90/10 with 90 being her good days.

I'm in my late twenties. I run an 8 minute mile once a week at least and I feel like dying after every run. While your 40+ wife does 2 miles in 14 mins. Are you sure it's miles or kilometers? There's a huge difference.

Maybe, you guys don't live in Naija (i.e exposed to constant exercise since you were young, have the opportunity to follow strict diet etc) or you are both professional athletes. I don't see another way!

The North and her leaders aren't the problem. The South is.

When will Southerners face the truth?

The North (the Islamic part at least) and Islam are inseparable, and Islam isn't just a religion, it's also a political movement. The North isn't truly interested in a democracy, or a secular one for that matter, it wants a theocracy. It's why they've got almajiri education and Sharia. The North will not invest in mass standard "western" education, not now, not in our lifetime, not in the next 100 years. They simply won't!

If the South really wants development, she should start asking the Northern leaders hard questions.

But the South isn't ready for that yet. We haven't even reached the necessary threshold of enlightenment and awareness to start asking such questions.

But when the enlightenment happens, when the time comes, it's the minorities in the North that suffers. I pity them.

Nigerian leaders have absolutely no fucking plan for the next generation. Basic education at an acceptable standard is extremely expensive in this country.

Coupled to a huge population growth rate, caused by ignorance on a massive scale and fuelled by religion and culture, we are no doubt raising an army, 100+ million strong, of unskilled liabilities.

In sum, we are creating a very bleak future for our children.

Lol. Theists always sound foolish whenever they try to explain away the issue of the existence of evil and suffering in a world supposedly created by a GOOD, OMNISCIENT, and OMNIPOTENT god.

It's simply impossible for a creator to fulfill those three conditions and still end up creating the world we live in governed by the food chain, the laws of thermodynamics, and the extremely violent history of evolution where more than 95% of all species are already extinct. Also, you should never forget that there is a perpetual war going on at the microscopic scale - microorganisms constantly developing new attack and defensive abilities - all as a result of the laws that govern the universe.

Advice to theists: just stop the argument and accept it as a divine mystery to keep your faith.

I'll basically rehash what others have said in a slightly different way:

It's really simple. Once a large proportion of a society gets logic and critical thinking, once such key ideas become common sense, then problem solving, creativity, meritocracy, innovation etc becomes commonplace.

It's a cycle just as poverty is a cycle. Good education gives rise to an informed populace - a pool outta which good leaders (at all levels) with good critical thinking and decision making skills can arise from. While, strong value systems ensure meritocracy last for as long as possible. But, like in all interconnected systems, persistent little lapses and failures inevitably leads to a cascade failure (well, all societies fail in the end, a simple consequence of thermodynamics!).

Same analysis goes for the poverty and ignorance cycle, but it's society (e.g. ours) has a far shorter timeframe for a cascade failure.

Adding this to the fact that many sub-saharan people are successful in schools and companies around the world (i.e. nothing intrinsically wrong with us) plus the second fact that race is nothing but an arbitrary definition of groups from what's actually a continuous genetic variation, you would have no choice but to agree that your question isn't valid.

So, until we deal with STEM education with a focus on making stuff and being a world leader in more than one market, until we standardize our education system, raise the bar of the horseshit level we call basic education (I.e reading and writing), ensure that all boys and girls must go to school, relegate religion and non-progressive cultural beliefs, until we create strong vocational training schools, etc we'll keep wasting our time with such invalid questions.

mickyeddi:


Too much energy is required to break water down into Hydrogen and Oxygen. According to the currently accepted laws of physics, there is no way to extract chemical energy from water alone. Water itself is highly stable—it was one of the classical elements and contains very strong chemical bonds. Its enthalpy of formation is negative (-68.3 kcal/mol or -285.8 kJ/mol), meaning that energy is required to break those stable bonds, to separate water into its elements, and there are no other compounds of hydrogen and oxygen with more negative enthalpies of formation, meaning that no energy can be released in this manner either.

Most proposed water-fuelled cars rely on some form of electrolysis to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen and then recombine them to release energy; however, because the energy required to separate the elements will always be at least as great as the useful energy released, this cannot be used to produce net energy.

Nope.

It's the same for all energy "generating" processes. You can't produce net positive energy. Thermo basics. However, you can make use of an abundant energy source to convert from one form to another.

In the case of water splitting, using light activated catalysts (solar energy being the ideal source) to kick-start the electolysis process is very promising. The development of stable catalysts (e.g. Perovskites, doped TiO2 etc) with bandgap in the visible (1.9 ish to about 3eV) is the main target now because the solar spectrum predominantly lies in the visible with just a little irradiance lying in UV and IR.

Damn!

So many "they signed up for it" comments. Even though the post clearly states the legal basis for the illegal actions of CU.

It shows that many many Nigerians are stark functional illiterates! Including most that went to school. They can only speak and write English. They can't fvcking think!

Same way they could only lament that banks were rejecting the country's legal tender just because it was slightly torn.

No wonder the government violently fvcks us on a whim. We don't know our rights!

Okay. Page 14 and no improvement. I shall repeat what I posted on page 8:

As in all other instances, not ONE Muslim criticised the act. Not even the "Islam is peace" kind. In fact, the only ones that commented are in support of beheading a human being for daring to criticize their beliefs. They're the aspiring terrorists.

There's only 2 why muslims will avoid this thread: they are fully in support but don't dare show it, or they're afraid to criticize openly. Either way, both cases have to deal with fear.

What a fvcked up situation to be born into a cult!

Conclusion: given that there might be a few number of them (a very very small number) that may openly criticize such barbaric acts, whichever way you look at it, you can't help but conclude that almost ALL Muslims (the nice ones included) are either violent or enablers of violence.

Question: why do religious people (especially Muslims) feel intense anger and the need to act violently whenever their beliefs are questioned? Is it purely irrational or does it stem from cognitive dissonance?





I like this thread. We can comment about Islam without the obligatory option to claim Allah as our Lord and Savior!

As in all other instances, after going through 8 pages of this thread, not ONE Muslim criticised the act. Not even the "Islam is peace" kind. In fact, the only ones that commented are in support of beheading a human being. They're the aspiring terrorists.

There's only 2 reasons that come to mind: they are fully in support but don't dare show it, or they're afraid to criticize openly. Either way, both cases have to deal with fear. What a fvckers up situation to be born into such a cult group!

Nnaabros:


Doesn't mean Kenya is better than Nigeria. The op only showed the capital, NAIROBI, not the whole of Kenya. You can't appraise a whole country just from the capital and use that to condemn the WHOLE of your country

I don't know, and I don't care. It's easy to make another successful city, once you made one & I'm sure theyve already done that. The important thing is that they're getting it right while we aren't.

The ease and standard of living is what makes a great city. Not the expensive rubbish we call lovely places (E.g. Abuja, lekki, VI etc) that haven't even got basic amenities that makes for a nice stay when a foreigner comes. If your city can't provide what developed nations regard as basic amenities at an affordable price to some tourist students taking a year off, then your city simply isn't livable.

It's really easy to know if a nice city. It's these little things that counts: did you take notice of the security flash cams on their roads, or that they also make pedestrian way when they build their roads, that they've got great cuisine because of the diversity and influence from basically every part of the world, that they've got country themed pubs, bars & resturants, that their shops (E.g coffee shops) have soul and a certain loveable ambience i.e designed & decorated so that you love to hang out at the place not just because of their products but because the outlet stands for something etc etc. Note: all these have to be affordable!

And we haven't even talked about electricity, manufacturing, agriculture or security and all that. That further relegates Nigerian cities into the darker part of the spectrum of shit-holes to live in.

Again, if basic, simple, beautiful things are available only to the sizeable elite, then your city is sh!t.

dazzlingd:


I agree we have our challenges, so do others.

Coming here to shower praises on Kenya and mocking Nigeria on the same thread is a bias comparison

There's no bias intended when a tourist posts pics of beautiful African cities he visits.

The comparison was inevitable. We are both African nations. If they can get basic things done, if they've got access to basic amenities like 24/7 electricity, so should we.

The Nigerian people, leaders and culture of mediocrity have created an unsafe and unjust society where nothing works, theives reign and merit is worthless.

You can all keep up with the cognitive dissonance, but the honest fact is that we've created a horrible place for our next generation to live in.

dazzlingd:


at least our rigorous educational system has produced graduates who have competed at world levels.
At least Nigeria is home of Wole Soyinka of OAU as the first African to win Noble prize in literature.
The legend Ransom kuti Fela

Hehehehehe.

I don't understand why people lie to themselves. Accept the truth: We have a failed nation! It's the first step to solving our problems.

omohayek:
Attempts to blame Africa's technological backwardness on environmental factors or "leaders" are nothing more than blame-shifting, and betray a lack of understanding of how those technological advances came about in the Western world in the first place. The real difference between Africa and other parts of the world which are moving forward is in the mindset of the African masses themselves, not just a few select leaders, and it comes down to this: most Africans have at best a shallow understanding of scientific thinking, and no grasp of Enlightenment principles whatsoever.

Until the Renaissance, the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment, Europe was just as full of backwardness as Africa is today, and the people of Europe were just as obsessed with religion and the supernatural, burning witches, blaming spirits and "evil eyes" for their personal problems, etc. The key breakthrough was the realization that the natural world is something that can be rationally understood through study, and that knowledge is accumulated through asking questions and putting cherished hypotheses to rigorous, careful testing, not by unquestioningly memorizing handed-down materials, or asking pastors, "prophets" and priests for the secrets of "heavenly" kingdoms no one had ever laid eyes on. For the first time in 1500 years, people began to actually test their theories about the world, rather than simply taking things as true because "Aristotle" or "The Bible" said so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enlightenment

The question the OP and everyone else here needs to ask themselves is whether any of you really understand the intellectual movements I've mentioned, assuming you've heard of them at all. Do you really know how the scientific method works, or are you simply envious of technological developments you have no understanding of? If the latter, then you're really no better than the other Africans you criticize, and no different to Melanesian "cargo culters" who thought they could reap the benefits of the white man's technology by making wooden imitations of planes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

TLDR: Africans are technologically backward because they don't understand even the basic principles of scientific thinking, even if they are able to memorize solutions to physics and chemistry problems from textbooks. If more Africans truly understand such principles, the front-page of Nairaland wouldn't be continuously full of ridiculous stories about witches, spirits, "mammy water" and other such superstitious rubbish.

In my short time of being on nairaland and [long time] on Twitter, I can't count 10 Nigerians who are actually, really scientifically enlightened. And it seems you just made into the list. There's probably more. No. Not those pseudo-enlightened Twitter lords.

Very well done for working on yourself to rise above the mediocrity and ignorance vieled and presented as African culture. Very well done!

alignacademy:


It's been fun chatting with you.

By the way, when next you "argue", it helps to know your FACTS.

"Drama" and swear words may seem clever, but they usually don't help...unless maybe if you're Kim Kardashian.

Cheers!

It seems most "educated" Nigerians' intellectual capacity is solely restricted to speaking/writing good English.

Like most of your kind, you've got zero critical thinking skills, knows fvck all about his rights, thinks swear words in an argument attenuates its logical weight, doesn't even understand the basics of logical arguments, etc. Only English for show off.

Another unfortunate product of our horrible education system.

alignacademy:


There's no reason to get worked up; I always want to learn more.

Which particular section of the constitution stipulates that private organizations cannot draw up their own agenda (as long as they are not criminal in nature)?

It's not a case to get unduly sentimental about.

Goodness gracious! I give up.

Hint: You should at least know your fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution. The school is forcing students to attend a religious function. If that isn't infringement of the rights to religious association, I don't know what it is.

alignacademy:


OK, I see your point.

I don't pretend to be a lawyer, but I don't think freedom of choice in religious matters is against the state/society.

(Isn't it supposed to be a fundamental human right?)

As long as the organization's rules are not inimical to the state, nothing stops the NUC from giving them a license.

From the facts available, the student was not forced to enrol in this institution.

And enrollment presupposes that he will abide by the rules and regulations of the said institution.

So why flout their directives?

Are you playing dumb or what? How can you not get it?!!!!

Their "directives" are against the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Their rules, whatever the fvck it is, hold zero power. Whatever the student signed isn't binding!

alignacademy:


There is something illogical about your argument...

Of course. It's illogical that NUC (or whatever institution is in charge) grants licenses to religious schools with unconstitutional rules in their code of conduct.

Phi001:

Did you actually read what you typed?
Huh?

Go to the kiddies corner. Come back when you've grasped the basics of reading comprehension.