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Ikenna351: One doesnt need to wait till he starts earning a million naira monthly to own a car. I was using and maintaining my father's car while i was in the University with my pocket money, singlehandedly. Not once did i seek for financial assistance from dad to keep the car on the road. I wasnt rich, in case you are wondering. The little i was getting was enough. It was possible to do so because i adopted and applied preventative maintenance, to prevent the car breaking down, which would cost much to fix.

Op, get a tokunbo car with your budget. Golf 3 manual tranny is the best choice for you. Look for a fuel carbureted engine one.

I wont advice anyone to use a loan and purchase a Nigerian used car. You need a car that will serve you for 2 good years, without much visits to mechanic workshop, since you will be paying for the loan and wont have much to spend in repairing the abused car on daily basis, if it was a Nigerian used car that you end up buying. By the time the tokunbo car you purchased in good condition start aging and giving you issues, you must have finished paying off the loans.

How could someone claimed that Toyota Camry has a better fuel economy than Golf 3. Anything to prove Camry I4 Consumes less than Golf 3? One need to set aside emotions when matters like this come up. Am not a VW fan, neither am I an I4 fan too. But someone needs our help. The best we could do is to offer a non-biased suggestions. Are you telling me Toyotas dont have their issues? Do you really want us to talk about that? This thing with Nigerians and Toyota!

Op, whatever you do, buy a tokunbo in good condition. Do know that people that earns lower than you do own cars too and aint complaining. Like i always say, DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!

Ikenna

I agree with most of this. However,in my view:

i) Some Nigerian used cars (depending on how well used i.e. terrain, driving frequency & proper maintenance) are far better off than some tokunbo cars of the same brand n model. For many tokunbo cars, u have to first change the tyres (they usually come with almost dead tyres) and battery. and if you r lucky, ur job ends there. A very well used and properly maintained Naija used may wel be a buy and drive. note that some people have cars they only drive on weekends. I personally though would prefer buying a Naija used car whose history i'm familiar with, or i can obtain from service records.

ii) In my last post for example, i recommended 3 toyotas not because they won't develop issues, but because I kno their parts in the market are relatively cheap if they do. & thats aside from their ruggedity (especially the Avensis Corona & Orobo camry). I guess that's part of the reasons y Nigerians go with Toyota, though I have to admit the brand is indeed overrated most times.

iii) You made a good recommendatn with Golf 3, no doubt. i guess i didnt mention it because it had been mentioned earlier & well, i was lookin at OP's query from my own point of view. In spite of the fact that the VW Golf (1.6, 1.8l) is even more fuel efficient than the fuel efficient camry 2.2 4 cyl, I'll stil go for the camry/corona. that's just me sha.lol. But the Golf is indeed a splendid n rugged ride. A friend sold his about a year ago when he was leavin for the UK for M.Sc. for 200k! Golf 3 GT, with the extra plastics n BB5 alloys. It seriously pained me coz knowin that ride, & how sound it was, i wouldv found a way to arrange even 250k just to get it, but i was too late.



OP, we don feed you with info. The final choice is yours

Thing is, because of the past accident, Dana air is very likely to become the safest local airline in the country coz they will do everything they possibly can (in an ideal situation) to ensure strict adherence to air safety standards. They've learnt the hard way. For those saying they won't fly Dana again, make them come with rock bottom prices, many of una go sing another tune. Lol. I still think the suspension shouldv gone on for longer though, especially as they've been unofficially indicted. But oh well, lets see what happens. They should even lessen Arik & Aero's burden.

You should be fine with a Toyota Camry ''Orobo'' (92-96). Or a Nigerian used manual gear baby boy, or a Nigerian used camry thin light. I advise u go for a 4 cylinder engine version of any of these cars , as they have wonderful fuel economy. Also consider a nigerian used Toyota Avensis (Corona)....around year 2000 model.. Note however that if you are buying a nigerian used car, u had better go with a trusted competent mechanic to check it out for you if you are not sure of its history.

hmmm.... Big for nothing. The SE doesnt look so bad tho, with the back spoilers n 5 spoke alloy wheels. That's the only one i can buy with my money.lol. Or i could buy the XLE, fit it with back spoilers & probably change the wheels as well. The 2005/2006 SE & XLE too isnt soo bad too. I love the redesigned front bumper n front grille. All in all, my big for nothing (if i'm ever goin to buy one) MUST have fog lights, back spoiler on the booth, nice alloy wheels, & preferably leather interior. The formica finishing & digital AC controls rear AC vent (XLE features) are optional.lol.

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adenalade: 220k lets seal d deal

sorry, its been sold!!!!!

Hmmm..... Odikwa serious matter. I just dont know what adjective i can use to describe this luxury private jet on 4 wheels.

Happy sales.

ajadek: pls I want to buy car and I was thinking of going 4 toyota or honda in term of fuel and maitainers.2008 toyota or eod.pls I need ur advice.or infinity jeep

Hmmmm...... the infiniti jeeps, whether the QX4 (3.3L or 3.5L V6), the FX35 (3.5L V6) or the FX45(4.5L V8) are powerful machines.....and THIRSTY as well.

If you are really after good fuel economy, then i suggest you go for a 4 cylinder Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. Or better still, a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic. Or if you want an SUV with good economy, try the Highlander (preferably the 4 cylinder), the Rav4 or the CR-V. Whichever you decide to buy, make sure you carry out regular maintenance and service as specified. then make use of the internet to visit online car forums and know the issue you might face with your particular vehicle model, and ways you can completely avoid them or manage them when they occur

tukzee: @FindOut Thanks for the infor,
pls kindly advise me, I intend buying toyota sienna 2001 model, I do an average of 100km to and fro everyday
what is the fuel efficiency like and cost of maintenance
thanks

visit this link to see the fuel economy figures of the 2001 Toyota Sienna

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=17102


Well, the Sienna is practically a V6 Toyota Camry minivan. From my observations, report of friends, neighbours, family members, that vehicle is quite easy to maintain. usually, you only have to service your engine when due and you are fine. Once you notice any strange sound, get your trusted mechanic to look at it immediately. But the ride generally doesn't give problems. & despite its size, it moves quite fast too, thanks to the V6 engine.

If you spend a lot of time in traffic, you do not really have the need for a mini van, you don't pass through terrible roads often and you re not willing to spend much on fuel, then I advise you consider the 2001 Camry.

Note that the Sienna's fuel economy is not bad for a V6 minivan, infact, its not bad at all. And well, if you must get a minivan, get the Sienna.

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Wallie: To add to what was already said, there are quite a few variables to consider that affects fuel consumption and the size of the engine is just one of them.

The easiest way to know what you’re getting into is to check the Miles Per Gallon (MPG) or Kilometers per liter rating of the vehicle in question because with everything being equal, the manufacturers ratings will give you the ideal numbers.

Things that affect fuel consumption:

1. Weight of the vehicle – take out all the junk and unnecessary stuff in your car/trunk
2. Underinflated tires – creates more friction which means the car uses more power to move
3. Size of engine - with everything else being equal, a bigger engine will use more fuel
4. Efficiency of engine – some engines are designed efficiently which might result in a bigger engine being more fuel efficient than a smaller engine
5. State of engine - unclogged air filter, good spark plugs, type of engine oil will result in higher gas mileage
6. Stop and go traffic – your gas mileage will suffer every time you use your brakes because using your brakes means that you need more “new” energy to continue moving as the “old” energy you used to get up to speed dissipated into heat created by the brakes.
7. Quality of fuel – bad fuel will reduce the efficiency of your car because the ECU (brain box) will compensate for the fuel by retarding “timing” to avoid damaging your engine.
8. How car is driven – the higher the RPM (revving the engine), the more fuel you burn.

On point boss.

gmyguy: the automatic gearbox for that baby goes for half a million naira...just saying

lol. but then unless he's extremely careless/negligent/ignorant, he wont have to replace his gearbox.

[quote author=Idon-do-me]@OP & Find Out, which small jeep do you think has better fuel efficiency that their cost is low? Am thinking of getting one soon by God's grace. Thanks![/quote]

SpaceAngel: Some SUVs with such qualities are Toyota rav4, Honda crv, mitsubishi-outlander

i concur with these choices. if you cannot afford a toks, you can get a good and clean well maintained naija used for moderate amounts


*If you r buying any naija used vehicle, always go with a COMPETENT and TRUSTWORTHY mechanic to check it out THOROUGHLY for you*

acidtalk: ^^^
Thanks a bunch for the enlightenment.
Will suggest you are round to answer people's questions more professionally than i would have done on his issues.
Once again, thanks so much.

No probs Boss. I frequent the car talk section to learn more and share my own little knowledge when I can. I'm around, & if any question pass my power, i know my gurus here (Siena, Fhemmy, Trac, Sultaan, Ikenna e.t.c.) will do justice to it.lol

Hmmm.... Fuel consumption!!! Fuel consumption!!!!

Well, we really have to be careful here especially when it comes to generalising certain vehicle brands as consumers and some as non-thirsty vehicles.

I'd say you find out the ENGINE CONFIGURATION/DISPLACEMENT of the PARTICULAR vehicle you intend to buy. Then consult the internet if you want to have an idea of the fuel economy figures (fueleconomy dot gov) is a very useful site in this regard.

Some people say, ''oh, Benz, audi, they consume fuel. Toyota is very fuel efficient. Honda is the best''

Go and buy an Audi A4/Volks passat i4 1.8litre, (naturally aspirated, non turbo) and come back and tell me if it consumes fuel. It doesnt.

Go and buy another Audi A4/Volks Passat, same model year, looks exactly the same as the first, (OK, maybe this one has leather) but with a 2.8litre V6 engine. U'll get different (higher) fuel consumption figures, especially if u spend a lotta tym in traffic.


Get Volks Bora/Jetta/Golf (IV), 1.6 litre engine (you'll be wondering if your car engine does not use fuel).

Get the same model year Volks Bora/Jetta/Golf(IV) with a 2.8 VR6 engine, much higher fuel consumption figures.


Even the hondas and Toyotas which we hold in high esteem, same same.

I know for a fact that the V6(3.0litre) Honda Accord 03 -07 EOD & Discussion continues CONSUME fuel...if you drive in heavy traffic a lot. Whereas, those who drive the 4 cylinder (2.4litre) versions will tell you ''Honda is very fuel efficient, & well, in their case, they wouldnt be lying''.


Or if you still think Toyotas are fuel efficient, get urself a Toyota Sequioa or Landcruiser, powered by a V8 4.7litre, then you'll be properly re-educated.

Know your car well before you buy it. I personally love V6 cars coz of the power, but I know i'll be paying for it at d filling station.

If you are not willing /capable enough to spend a lot of cash on fuel, then dont just buy any camry or bora coz they are fuel efficient. Ensure that you go for the one with the particular engine capacity that will give you the best fuel economy.


Mercedes cars are also another serious cause for confusion. Many people do not know that the first generatn C class for e.g. comes in about 4 diff engine variants....at least that can be commonly found on naija roads. U have the C180, C200, C230, C280. Those numbers mean something, usually used to denote the exact (or close to) engine displacement. Know the particular C class you are buying. If you buy a C280 (2.8litre V6) & you are expecting the same infrequent visits to the filling station as applies to your neighbour who drives the C180, then you'll be in 4 a shock.

Above all, as has bn said severally here, proper vehicle maintenance is key to getting the best fuel economy results.

danjohn: Oga you know say na Atiku talk that one na. As for your suggestion I am strongly considering taking a sabatical from my job to work on the 2015 campaign (hopefully it is Buhari/Fashola or Fashola/Marwa).

Lool. I know!!! I wonder why people keep ascribing that statement to Buhari.

U go do well as campaign team member o..lol. Yeah, let's wait for the candidates before we know who to support. Even tho i'll find it hard to ever cast my vote for any PDP candidate, its really high time we concentrate on candidates rather than parties. We go recruit Jarus too. That guy na effective organizer.

naiko: not to derail your post but i mean 3.5 for 2012 model for me is cheap, being brand new because i remember i bought my 2011 model for almost 4 million so hw can?

my point exactly. A Tokunbo 2011 model still sells for 3-3.5 million. Even more. So i expect a brand new 2012 model to start from way higher. Anywy, since OP has said its for real, Happy sales

^^^ Nice one up there. Hope you've dropped ur CV and campaign ideas at the CPC secretariat o.lol. I agree completely. Buhari couldv spoken out then but the truth is no matter what he would have said, the press & the PDP (assuming they are not ihtertwined) would have still crucified him while pretending to ignore the fact that it was (is) not primarily Buhari's responsibility to ensure law and order in d country & safeguard the life of its citizens. Some people were busy popping champagne in Abuja and others were fighting over themselves to congratulate the champagne poppers, while innocent people were being killed for over 3 days. Where were the policemen and d soldiers??


& Let us get this clear once and for all. Maybe i didnt read well. Who said he'll ''make Nigeria ungovernable'' if he loses the elections ( or something to that effect) ?

Was it Muhammadu Buhari (CPC) OR Atiku Abubakar (PDP)?

3.5 Million?? Or was that a typo?

thelastPope: Buhari has still not showed us what he did with hundreds of billions of Naira in PTF. Five years of looting and squander. He is trying to cover up by living like an Aboki but we cannot be fooled. Where are the PTF projects because we cant see anything in our states. What did he do with the money. No impact in Education, Infrastructure, Agriculture, Power, Transport, Job creation, in fact, nothing. He just shared the money amongst his peers just like he did in 1978/79.

What a shame.

This must be the biggest lie of the century. If you were in Nigeria during late 1990s & u didnt see anythn PTF? Then i guess u were underground. Even a foreign journal/mag/organizatn (cant remember which) once adjudged the PTF as the most successful government intervention in Africa. This guy used to go n inspect projects with policemen. If the contractor was not performin as he ought to, or not on site, na arrest sharp sharp, no waste time. I can vividly remember seeing several textbooks then with the PTF stamp, drug dispensing envelopes with the PTF insignia. Back then, i used to wonder what d whole PTF was all about. I knew what was going on, but was a bit young to fully understand.

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phemybof: SLS just say dat to defend himsef frm harazment by general public.NEW currency introduction is a real inflation.SALARY EARNERS wl sofer most on introduction because minimum wage has already put inplace, so there won't be strike 4 increase in salary 4 d time being.a busins man can increase his price rate at enytime of favourable condition.on d coins issue,SLS,FED.GOVT. dosnt tink of average nigerians and common man on d street. Ds is just a way of DEVALUATION and it wil increase IMPORT AND DECREASE EXPORT wich wl leads to BALANCE OF PAYMENT DEFFICIT

I sincerely hope you are not an Economist. Infact, for the sake of the integrity of the subject, I hope u didnt waste your time taking any Economics class in school.

Provide justifications which could include but are not limited to real-life case studies / scenarios, for your assertions above.

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Pics taken last night.

Nissan Sunny 2 doors sports hatchback.
Green.
Clean interior and exterior, 80%
Factory fabric seats.
AC working but not too cold.
Manual transmission.
Sound, fuel efficient 1.4 litre engine
Alloy wheels with mud guards behind tyres.
Sunroof.

Location - Ikeja.

Reason for sale- Owner wants to upgrade and doesn't need 2 cars at his age .

To fix - Car horn

This car belongs to a friend. The owner (& not a dealer).
If you need a nice reliable fuel efficient rugged ride, this is for you.

If this car stays an extra day on this forum unsold, then i'll just conclude that nairalanders no sabi beta thing.lol. Luvly ride, great price too. This is the successor to the indestructible ever-rugged Carina E. Wish I had 650k to buy this, 600k (or a bit less) for car, the rest for fresh alloy wheels


Nice to see (from the gear stick & indicators) that this is not a converted vehicle. Was seriously lookin for this for a friend some months ago, & most of what we saw were conversions.
Happy sales man.

ogugua88: Long resume. You forgot Jennifer Love Hewitt lol.

Lol.. Yeah, her too! We'll see who comes up next. Maybe he'll head over to Rihanna's house & offer to dry her Chris Brown tears

No offence OP, but this car seems VERY underpriced to me. Are there any issues with it?

From Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Aniston, Taylor Swift & now Katy Perry. This guy is trying. Lol

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NO NO NO NO NO & NO!!!

I strongly believe that money should remain with the FG & NOT returned to Delta.

1) Delta state Govt has once said their money was not missing, in essence, exonerating Chief Ibori.

2) 'Hon.' Justice Marcel Awokulehin has cleared Chief Ibori of all charges, in essence (according to my limited legal knowledge), Mr. Ibori is NOT guilty of bribing anybody.

3) The current political leadership in Delta state is a well known ally of former Governor Ibori. How are we sure that should this money is returned to Delta, it would actually be spent to improve the lives of the people. Or is it too far-fetched to suggest that this money might be invested or kept for the former Governor (at least in the short-term, b4 it is inevitably re-embezzled), so he can have some cushion to fall back on whenever he gets back to Nigeria?


4) Last week/dis weekend, we heard news making rounds that there was a plot by some powerful people to retrieve & keep the money for the former Governor. Now, is that 'rumor' not proving to be true with the current propaganda & brouhaha over this issue?


5) This is BRIBE money. A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT official was bribed with it & he declined & submitted the money instead. We shouldnt care if the money is for DTSG or Ibori inherited it from his father, the money should remain confiscated & added to the federation account as income. Pure and simple.


6) For those saying the money can be used by the current DTSG to ''improve the lives of the people'', my question is simple: Delta state has a population of less than 5 million & receives BILLIONS of naira monthly. Has this told on the living standards of the average Deltan? The Governor is trying, yes, but with the amount of money he receieves every month, trust me, he can do A WHOLE LOT MORE.. Lets not deceive ourselves. I spent the first half of this year in beloved Delta so i think I know what i'm talking about. But lemme not derail the topic.


The 15 Million dollars should be credited to the Federation account ASAP.


Note: I'm be quite nice by saying the Governor is trying.