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muhsin:
Then, as an academic, prove that beyond shadow of doubt. Waiting. . .lol

Your cohorts on those threads flatly fail to do that; am therefore waiting to see your trial.

uplawal:
MOST PEOPLE KEEP CELEBRATING,they are so unaware



Abuzola,where are my roses

muhsin:
^^^ Can you, as well, show me where smoking, drinking, homosexuality, etc is allowed in Islam? Why all the hubs because of some sordid action of a few followers of Islam? Don’t be too narrow-minded.

muhsin:
You had me grinning; I must say.

Have you ever been objective in your whole life on NL? I really don't think.

chakula:
If there exist any terrorism in the world American and Israel alone would have constituted 90% of the world terrorism. what America is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? I think mazaje is not worthy to still be part of this forum for his uncivilized, uncultured and unintelligent post which is unforgivable. This is an academic forum; we write with logic, speak with reason and pose challenge intelligently.

Abusafwan, dont mind them ,Hitler is alive and he will back and dealth them.

are the actions of america and israel the justification for islamic terrorism??
because terro5rism started wayy back before israel was a nation and before united states of america was even born,
it started before george bush's great great great granfather was even born
terrorism started with your prophet when he started to way lay and murder innocent travellers

uplawal:
some people are so senseless, imagine godslave against people learning arabic?i wanna tell u now that even if is hausa language GOD used to send the QURAN people from all over the world will learn it,

godslave,can u tell me how many of you doomed(lost)souls learnt hebrew language?

I TELL YOU,YOU SPEAK AS IF YOU ARE A FOOL

JeSoul:
Godson my friend, no be fight at all. I defer to superior knowledge now and since I'm not sensible and cannot follow, please be so kind as to post again the exact scripture verse that says the pastor is the spiritual father and head?

JeSoul:
TV you sef you try no be small to read and respond to that epistle which was nothing more than a caveman whipping up a smoke screen

Godson, I will not respond to any of the diversionary topics you threw out there. I'm a very simple person my brotha and I have consistently asked you only 1 question, "where is the scripture that says the pastor is the spiritual father and head of the church?"

You said you would post the verses, please do so or retract your original statement. Then we can go ahead and discuss roles. Once you post the verse (or retract your assertion), I will happily indulge in all the other questions you put forth. Happily

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Ai! no kidding? I'm going to put on Arte more often now

No problem my friend, no problem . I still owe you a proper holla . . .

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Agree. There is a function which can be referred to as pastor and they do have a role to play (notice how I ignore your sly invective and stick firmly to the question at hand )

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Disagree. Why? As follows;

1. Primarily because there is no absence of “bible verses” detailing what a pastor is, what a pastor does, specifics , detail and limits. Your not seeing or accepting that, in no way changes it.
2. If the bible is silent on what a pastor does, how does your personal conviction or preferred practice in any way become binding on other believers. Or why is anyone compelled to follow the norm or accepted practise.
3. A dictionary does not “define”. What a dictionary does is “describes”. Further, it describes based on current usage –although it may refer to meanings from antiquity – not necessarily on original meaning. The scripture is complete, do you assert otherwise?

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Disagree. Why? As follows;

1. I glad you used the word “assertion”, unfortunately you have in no way “backed it up with evidence”. Indeed, you contradict yourself, as you also asserted that the bible is absent of verses outlining the role of a pastor.
2. The pastor was mentioned of one of 5 functional/enabling roles. So as not to digress, I will not get all expansive regards “leadership”, but the Bible also outlines specifics and limits to these function. A dictionary is not required.

TV01:
GODSON2009 said;
as for explaining i dont need to as the world wide congregation of christians has done that for me why dont you show me a church where they have five leaders as co leaders leading thew church with equal powers?

TV01’ response;
Again, the completeness of scripture is not validated by CRG practice, rather CRG practice should be scrutinised in light of scripture. I don’t need to show you a church as outlined, as that is your warped interpretation of my view. All I need to do is show the blueprint outlined in the scriptural narrative. And this I will endeavour to do, grace and time permitting (note how I slippe din a little piety for effect at the end there!)

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Abeg, pele 0, e ma binu sir! Sowwy!

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Indded your obsession with “constituted authority” – which is really thinly veiled veneration of persons – is much more likely to engender that particular sickness – Nigeria or elsewhere – I have never resorted to entitling myself as leader, GO, Cardinal, Spiritual Father, Mummy in Israel, Pastor to Pastors or my personal fave - Prophetess to the nations etc, etc, which all obtain in the CRG’s you revere. Having said that, henceforth, kindly address me as Elder TV!

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Empiricaly? No I am not. What I am saying is view how one and all are constituted in light of scripture. Clarification enough?

TV01:
TV01’ response;
Will you fall off that “constituted authority” horse already? I mean scap that! It makes you sound like a “follow follow”

TV01:
GODSON2009 said;
i am eargerly awaiting your religious convictions because so far all you have done is pick up from where your friend left off,side stepping direct questions while answering my questions with more questions in a typical naija manner,thanking you in advance and have a nice day as well shalom

TV01’ response;
The discourse will ultimately reveal who is “side-stepping”. I have asked you just the one question so far, which you failed to answer or justify scripturally. I am anything but “typical Naija”, but won’t belabour the point if you choose to label me as such. I will stick to the points in question. Oya, bo si ile ka ja !

God bless
TV

chakula:
if you said allah is merciful,then prophet mohammad must be the biggest fatt4est liar from the pit of hell and i can prove it too

godson,

you have to quit from this part, your respond is highly not needed. you know nothing about this topic, hope you are guided.

of course i do,simply ask me to prove my assertions and i will oblige you, ask abuzola and the rest if i have not proven this before now lol
the moslem allah that i have extensively read off in the Quran,sunna hadiths is wicked and vindictive so for anyone to tell me he is the opposite then mohammad,who is regarded as his prophet must have lied his way through

Abu Zola:
U must be smoking grass i believe. Do u know that Pre islam in makkah, people use to circumambulate the ka'abah unclothed. Anyway arab and europeans are addictive smokers, note* not weed but cigarrate, anybody smokin weed will be thrown into jail in S.A. The fact that it is holy land does not means the people re holy. The father of hypocrite reside in makkah. The stern enemy of islam lived in makkah.

Any homosexual, love-peddler and thief will face the music of sharia law.

uplawal:
godenemy i pity your soul

Abuzola:
Last year i was among the pilgrim to the holy land, what shocked me was the number of smokers in Makkah,

Abu Zola:
The she goat follows the he goat like a naughty woman. Ghetoshiit, i guess u have no word thats why u acted like the she goat.

@Godslave- The Quran remain intact in Arabic unlike your thousand plus bible version from amplied bible to king james. I laff in arabi gurumgrum