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frosbel: Glorified body , a resurrected body just like that of angels.

"When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." - Mark 12:25

But this is not the point,the point is or should we say question , Did Jesus Christ resurrect bodily from the grave ?

frosbel: Then you have denied the entire Gospel and I cannot agree with you on this.

If Christ did not resurrect in bodily form our gospel is useless.

Be careful !!


John 20:27 (NASB95)
27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

frosbel: @ truthislight & ijawkid

Let us have your opinion on whether Jesus Christ was raised bodily.

Thanks,

OLAADEGBU: What is coded about the simple kweshun?

Do you believe that Jesus was crucified, died, was buried and rose from the dead leaving behind him an empty tomb?

OLAADEGBU: 'Am not surprised that you know what the boy saw because you were the one telling us what Jesus Christ meant when He said "the pure in heart shall see God"

Answer my kweshun without jumping to another kweshun to divert us from the issue at hand:

Did Jesus Christ bodily rise from the dead, Yes or No?

OLAADEGBU: Are you sure he saw a demon? I have a question for all Jehovah Witnessess on this thread (ijawkid, BARRISTERS, Truthislight, Fresky) including the JW's wannabe, frosbel:

Do you believe Jesus bodily ressurrected from the grave?

Mr_Anony: You are missing the point frosbel, Ihedinobi and I hold that the Trinity is not of a necessity preached in explicit terms in the bible rather the Trinity is an assumed as foundational knowledge i.e. taken for granted.

Peter and other fishermen disciples may not have spoken "volumes of theology" but one thing they did was to worship Jesus Christ while He was alive on earth. Notice I said they worshipped Him.

If they didn't at least think that Jesus was equal with God, they would not have worshipped Him. What is equally interesting is that Jesus accepted worship while He was a man. This is something no man or angel would dare to do and still be in God's favour.

To deny the deity of Jesus pushes you straight into polytheism as you have to now hold that there are at least two separate and different beings that are worthy of worship. Mind you, the bible is very clear that God is the only one who deserves our worship.

Mr_Anony: It is funny how any time i ask what you think, you quote Ihedinobi as if Ihedinobi echoes your thoughts....but then again nothing Ihedinobi said there paints God as a commitee.
A good place to start when contemplating Trinity is by looking at man as a trinity of body, soul and spirit - both the same and yet distinct entities (this is not a perfect analogy but just used to give you an idea)



Not that I normally do this but let me run a verse by you.
Consider this:

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1John 5:7

What do you think of it?

seriallink: Eheh, your explanation makes a lot of sense; you know, buguzee's interpretation was confusing, I tried asking him to explain more but the atheists on the thread were busy disturbing with silly questions. Atleast your interpretation explains better. I think say anybodi wey no dey the list go enter hell ni

seriallink: Eheh, your explanation makes a lot of sense; you know, buguzee's interpretation was confusing, I tried asking him to explain more but the atheists on the thread were busy disturbing with silly questions. Atleast your interpretation explains better. I think say anybodi wey no dey the list go enter hell ni

Willzkid: The rosary is a pagan object of
worship..I'm still at a loss, how
it became a fashion
item...#Nooffen
cemeantcatholicfolks,beentheretoo
Its really funny how we blindly
follow trends..#SMH

CrazyMan: Too be honest, I'd love to meet everyone...this religion section has really enlightened me, thanks to the dedicated members.

So like I stated earlier, we could take a huge leap of faith by organizing a get together mini party for ourselves.

Now allow me to draw the program menu.

Mr Anony and ihediobi would minister...

Buzugee would crack jokes for us...

Delafruita, logicboy, cyrexx, mkmyres45, plaetton and wiegraf would sing hymns for us.

Tipa@ would sweep the floor and ensure that the place is kept tidy...

Bella3 and jesoul would be ushers...they would smile and usher people to their seats.

Joagbaje and ola would be in charge of the tithe and offerings.

Frosbel, truthislight, deep sight and ijawkid would be our counselors, their job would be to council people.

Goshen 360, muskeeto, evil brain and reyginus would be in charge of our musical equipment.

What say ya all...

seriallink: This OP sounds like an atheist but this same thought came to my mind when I read one of buzugee's post about the 144k. If God should chose only 144k from the time of Noah, then I think there would be no room left for us. Honestly, it's scary; if it turns out to be true na cry be that o, no again

OLAADEGBU: How can you see God when you don't even believe that you will go to heaven?

Here is a little boy that has seen God:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZiG_cEYvLI

The Lord Jesus Christ said:

"Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God" (Matthew 5:.

OLAADEGBU: Let this little boy who went to heaven and came back tell you how?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZiG_cEYvLI

Bélla3: The top person i would like to meet is muskeeto. He's the only unbiased person on this section.
I would like to meet logic boy too bt i'd come with a gun, he sounds aggresive to me.
Buzugee, calloti and tpia@ are also on my list. You see i took a 6 weeks training on counselling, i want to see if i can help.
Frosbel, i hav tons of questions for him.
Strangely i would like to meet lagoshia, he sounds intelligent to me. Bt am coming wit sss for my own safty.
I would love to meet most Christains on this section esp crazy man, ijawkid, pastor kun etc
did i mention Mr Anony? Yes!
Mykmyers is a dumb ass, i knw him bt he doesnt knw me hehehe.
I neva want to meet mactunji, as much as i wan go heaven, i neva wan die. Imagine? Banned for a whole month?
Dela fruita is an interesting character too.
.

Kai, the list is too long.

obadiah777: truth be told when i meet you i will come with 5 body guards, a machete, holy water, and a KJV BIBLE. you sound like you got a legion of demons on you JUST KIDDING. am sure you are a cool calm kinda fella

OLAADEGBU: Do you think everybody know how it works? and will it not be arrogance to say that they don't believe it can work simply because they don't know how it works? You guys are just like atheists who don't believe in the existence of God for the simple reason that they cannot see Him.

plaetton: Interesting indeed. So you are going to remain mum until it is debunked? Who or how do you hope to debunk it?
What if it is not debunked?
Do you agree that you are a hostage to your beliefs?

OLAADEGBU: In seeking to understand the Trinity we need to recognise three limiting factors. First, the human language is limited such that it is incapable of describing the aroma of coffee. Secondly, the limitation of our own understanding and intellects.

John Eddison in his book "talking to children" said "Our little intellectual systems find themselves groaning under the strain of trying to accommodate God"

Therefore, in an attempt to describe the Trinity we have to resort to the use of paradox. A paradox as defined by the Concise Oxford Dictionary is a seemingly absurd though perhaps actually well founded statement. And thirdly, we have to recognise the limits of our finite world and our finite minds.

plaetton: [size=8pt][b]News Flash! New discovery may prove that Jesus was married.



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/jesus-had-wife-newly-discovered-gospel-suggests-202727064.html

Lord Reed, Anony, Ihedinobi, Ijawkid and others.

You guys must be running for cover right now.
I'm waiting to see how you refute these findings or how you are going to twist and spin it.
That the problem reaching a conclusion before you have the facts.
The facts come back to bite you in the bumbum.

He he heh.

purplekayc: A recently uncovered fragment of ancient papyrus makes the explosive suggestion that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were man and wife, researchers say.

The 8cm by 4cm fragment supports an undercurrent in Christian thought that undermines centuries of Church dogma by suggesting the Christian Messiah was not celibate.

The centre of the fragment contains the bombshell phrase where Jesus, speaking to his disciples, says 'my wife', which researchers believe refers to Magdalene.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205235/Proof-Jesus-married-ancient-papyrus-mentions-son-God-spoke-wife-Mary-Magdalene.html#ixzz26sWdJxk5

purplekayc: A recently uncovered fragment of ancient papyrus makes the explosive suggestion that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were man and wife, researchers say.

The 8cm by 4cm fragment supports an undercurrent in Christian thought that undermines centuries of Church dogma by suggesting the Christian Messiah was not celibate.

The centre of the fragment contains the bombshell phrase where Jesus, speaking to his disciples, says 'my wife', which researchers believe refers to Magdalene.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205235/Proof-Jesus-married-ancient-papyrus-mentions-son-God-spoke-wife-Mary-Magdalene.html#ixzz26sWdJxk5

plappville: Chist existed before He came to earth, He is a special One/Son of God. The bible clearly shows that God used to glorify Christ before. God sent Jesus to earth. God cannot send himself msg. He cannot Die, He cannot be tempted By Satan. If Jesus had even Told his Disciples that He is the almighty God, they might even be the ones to stone him to death. The truth is all over in the scripture. Why guessing or trying to Say "Because Jesus was on earth, He was limited". The catholic has thier own way to twist the "househood baptism" as their excuse of INFANT Baptism. Let the bible interprets itself.

OLAADEGBU: You and your gang are what is called confused.com. Show me where I said that Jesus Christ is the Father? If you don't then you are entitled to remain silent.

What I said is that Jesus is also Yahweh and what that means is that our Lord Jesus Christ uses similar titles as the Father. For instance, the Father is known as Yahweh, Jesus Christ also goes by the title Yahweh.

Yahweh is "I AM" which is a description used both by the Father and the Son. For the Father look up Exodus 3:14; Deut. 32:39; Isaiah 43:10 and for the Lord Jesus Christ go to John 8:24, 58; 18:4-6.

You and your gang are doing a good job for your master who is the accuser of the brethren.

OLAADEGBU: What does it mean to call Jesus the Son of God?

Does the title Son of God, imply that Jesus Christ is different than God? No. The Scriptures states that our Lord Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16), while true Christians are adopted sons of God (Romans 8:15-17). If you are born again you are called adopted sons of God because we are different from God and must become His children (hence, adopted, not begotten). Our Lord Jesus Christ is not called adopted because He never became God's Son, but has always been God's Son. Calling Jesus the only begotten Son of God means that He is of the same nature as God, not a different nature. Below is C.S. Lewis attempt to explain this truth:

"To beget is to become the father of: to create is to make. And the difference is this. When you beget, you beget something of the same kind as yourself. A man begets human babies, a beaver begets little beavers, But when you make, you make something of a different kind from yourself. A bird makes a nest, a beaver builds a dam . . . Now that is the first thing to get clear. What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man. What God creates is not God, just as what man makes is not man. That is why men are not Sons of God in the sense that Christ is. They may be like God in certain ways, but they are not things of the same kind."

There is a clear distinction between making and begetting, that is, you cannot make what you beget. What you make is different from yourself, what you beget has your nature. Therefore to call Jesus the only begotten Son is to say that He has God's nature and was not made. Since He has God's nature, He is, by definition, God and therefore eternal. If Jesus was created by God, He could not have been begotten, and John 3:16; 1:18, 1 John 4:9, etc. are in error.

Therefore, when the Bible says that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, it means that Jesus is equal to God, not less than God. QED