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Emusan:
That's the lie they were taught in their hall

NOTE: Not just BODY but BODIES meaning Jesus used more than one body to appear to His disciples...

Emusan lying Pharisee wey no know him Bible (if he has one).
Mary Magdalene saw Jesus impaled with cuts,nail marks on his body.(John19:25. Matt12:39,40)
She was @the tomb sobbing and saw two angels (,one of them is the resurrected Jesus - John 20:11-14).
She was the first person who the resurrected Jesus first appeared to (john20:14-16) and spoke with .
v14:
"she turned around and saw Jesus standing there but she did not know that it was Jesus"

** Questions for you

Mr man ,why did Mary Magdalene not know Jesus voice / his materialized body?

John20:14,19,26 did Mary Magdalene and Jesus apostles see the same body of the resurrected Jesus?

Hairyrapunzel:
So you teach that Jesus Christ entered another humans body after resurrection? Lol

That is what your kolo brain told you.
U have ZERO proof that i ever said so.

asalimpo:
you are incapable of reasoning. Stop being dense. Jesus was calling the lake of fire HELL. This is okay and can b used interchangeably though technically it hell is distinct from the lake of fire. We see what he meant by this in rev20v14-15. When people whose names are not in the book of life are CAST (see that word again) into NOT HELL but the LAKE OF FIRE! Q.E.D.
Again,pls think! They are souls in hell now,burning. While their bodies are in the grave. See richman nd lazarus. But at the Judgemnt seat of Christ, soul nd body will unite. Be judged and then CAST into the LAKE OF FIRE! this Jesus called Hell in matt10 nd 5. Please think. Presently ppls bodies are in graves meaning Jesus hasnt CAST any yet into hell(lake of fire) yet!

* Technically distinct
**"Technically defeated "
We already know that "technically" is a byword for lie lie& falsehood.
If you know you know

brocab:
I just wished you could stand up for yourselves and study the Word of God, learn about the truth man"-you haven't a clue about which way is up" a lair is a JW who thinks himself to be self righteous 'one that doesn't spend time studying the scriptures-but points their finger-like he is somebody 'when he is nobody!
""As the Hebrew word "Sheol" spoke of the state, condition, or place of the dead in the Old Testament, the same is true in the New Testament with the Greek word "Hades." The word Hades has a number of different meanings in the New Testament.
1. The Grave - The Place Of Bodily Decay
2. The Place Of The Punishment For The Wicked
3. Possibly As A General Term For The Unseen Realm Of The Dead
Hades is always connected with death, never with life. The context will determine its meaning. It does not refer specifically, or exclusively, to the place of punishment. Like Sheol, it is an intermediate place - it never refers to the place of final punishment.
It was not until the time of Christ that conditions in the afterlife were more fully revealed. The Bible says.
{2 Timothy 1:10} But it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel!
The New Testament says the following about Hades.
1. The Grave - The Place Of Bodily Decay
Hades is the place of bodily decay. Peter said the following about the death of Jesus.
{Acts 2:29-31} "Fellow Israelites, I may say to you confidently of our ancestor David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. Since he was a prophet, he knew that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would put one of his descendants on his throne.
Foreseeing this, David spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, saying, 'He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh experience corruption'
The grave would have no victory over the Messiah.
2. Place Of Punishment For Wicked
Hades is a place of temporary punishment of the unrighteous dead. Jesus told the story of the rich man and Lazarus.
{Luke 16:23-26} In Hades, where he [the rich man] was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side. He called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.'
But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in agony. Besides all this, between you and us a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who might want to pass from here to you cannot do so, and no one can cross from there to us'
{Matthew 11:23} And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? No, you will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty deeds done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day
3. Place For Righteous Dead?
There is some question as to whether Lazarus and Abraham were in Hades or in heaven. If they were in Hades, they were in a place that was separated from the unrighteous dead.
Hades Opposes Christ's Church
Hades is sometimes used of the powers of death. Jesus said that the forces of Hades would not stop the spread of His gospel.
{Matthew 16:18} And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it..
In this context, Hades speaks of the realm of the dead -or the grave.
Distinguished From Death
In the Book of Revelation, Hades is distinguished from death.
{Revelation 6:8} There was a pale green horse! Its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed with him; they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, famine, and pestilence, and by the wild animals of the earth
Hades Will Be Destroyed--Hades is not a permanent place. It will cease to exist at some future time.
{Revelation 20:13,14} The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them . . .
Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire , Because Hades will someday be destroyed, it is not to be seen as the ultimate abode of the unbelieving dead.
Jesus Has The Key
{Revelation 1:18} Jesus Himself has the keys to death and Hades. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. . . And I have the keys of Hades and Death..
He has conquered death and the grave.
Only Unbelieving Dead
{2 Corinthians 5:8} Hades is now a place for the unbelieving dead. The righteous go to be with the Lord when they die, Paul wrote. Yes, we do have confidence, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord!
Hades, like its Old Testament counterpart Sheol, refers to a number of different things.
Sometimes it refers to the grave, the place where the dead reside. It also refers to the place where the wicked suffer after death. It may also be a general term for the unseen realm of the dead, but this is not clear. It is never used of final destination of anyone, righteous or unrighteous. Hades will someday end when it is thrown into the lake of fire.
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Then we may ask ourselves Where is hell? Since we have already studied about Hades-We don’t know the specific location of where hell is except that it’s sometimes referred to as being “down,” but we do know that it’s a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth (signifying eternal regret), of outer darkness, and is permanent.
You wouldn’t wish that on your worst enemy. It’s so terrible that it’s beyond description and it’s beyond comprehension, and only those that are there can know what such torment feels like. When hell is mentioned, it is often associated with fire, so hell and the lake of fire seem to be referring to the same place.
Jesus warned His listeners about the reality of hell and the permanent state of being there as He said it is “where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire” {Mark 9:48-49}

Wayo write up no wonder the wayo man wey copy am no wan give credit to the original author
If u actually studied the Bible you know that Gehenna is the correct word instead of hell at Mark9:48-49

asalimpo:
and you dense thinking doesnt reveal to you that spirits have all attributes of the flesh? God is a spirit yet he: sees,talks,sits on a throne,laughs etc. Angels eat-manna was angel food. But angels are spirits? All these proven by the bible. Ok,go ahead,bypass the bible and throw a jab trying to say the bible doesnt Mean what it says!

"Manna was angel food" for your dream.
How many plates did you eat with them?
asalimpo lying Pharisee !
Lol

asalimpo:
Altering the Bible to suit their theology
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To consolidate the MC (mind control), false sects, re-write the bible to suit their theology. This way they can pass out a conked out manuscript tht says what they want it to say. Members are discouraged from using other bible version or outrightly banned from doing so.
Implementation:
catholicism- catholocism is quuen here. They edited the bible at it's core by inventing their own polluted manuscript which formed the bases for majority of modern day bible versions. The textus vaticanus is their works.

JW: can u mention frauds like this without jw coming to mind? The new world (order?) translation their members tout is terribly polluted. Reading it side by side any other translation could seem like you're reading two entirely different books.
SDA: seventh day adventists have their own bible too.

Trash fit for the dustbin ,as far as JW is concerned.

Devotee of pastorpreneurs& 3 face godheads
The fraud of Phil2:6 Rev1:11,.1 John 5:7. 1tim3:16 etc.are maggi and royko for your satanic doctrine

asalimpo:
the same bible says if you see a brother overtaken in a fault,you who are spiritual restore him in a spirit of meekness!
Jw: use excommunication as a threat to enforce mindless zombie obedience of their members. No wonder the members are so zealously brainwashed to their hogwash doctrine. But in a free church,one would have freedom to question belief without fear of punishment. Again this is nothing but a satanic device for ppl control.

Empty rants of a lying Pharisee twisting God's word.

I challenge you to show proof where Jesus disciples restored Ananias and Saphira in a spirit of meekness or Moses restored the rebellious gang of Korah in a spirit of meekness

**.I challenge you to name one apostle who questioned the beliefs and teachings of Jesus or the first century Christians.

U wey dey go "free church" show us proof where U openly condemn the licentious lifestyle of your pastorpreneur con men and your hogwash doctrines or any
unscriptural practice of your own church.
Pharisee of free church of iniquity

johnw47:
lying false jw max

Jesus said a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones as you see i have
but of course you false jw max disagree with the Lord


Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


you false jw's are such anti christs

Stupid idiotic post from johnw lying Pharisee twisting God's word.

*** Gen19:1-3
v1 "It was evening when the two angels came to Sodom. Lot was sitting at Sodom's gate. Seeing them Lot rose up to meet them and bowed to the ground
v3 Lot entreated them and urged them greatly until they yielded and entered his house. And he made dinner and had unleavened bread which he baked and they ate"

.The spirits hath not flesh and bones and ate unleavened bread and had drinks with Lot.
Go and quarrel with Peter the eye witness of Jesus resurrection & Paul who exposed your satanic doctrines
1peter3:18. Acts3:12-15
1cor15:42-47

asalimpo:
@barristter07
@maximus69
Look at these verses.
Acts7v59: "and they stoned stephen,calling opon God, and saying receive MY SPIRIT "
where was his spirit? In his body. His spirit left his body to IMMEDIATELY GO BE WITH JESUS.
if he wasnt saved,he'd go to hell,like the richman.
John19v30: "and He Jesus bowed his head and gave up the ghost (his SPIRIT)".
AGAIN,at physical death,the spirit leaves the body. In the case of Jesus, his spirit and soul went to hell.
Luke 23v43:"And Jesus said unto him,Verily I say unto thee,Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."
that day He would be dead but that Day,Him and the thief would be together,that VERY DAY, IN paradise. Not the grave? How come?
Who was the ME the thief would be with? Certainly not the body in the tomb.

Luke23v46:"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice he said Father,into thy hands i commend my SPIRIT: and having said thus,he gave up the ghost"
ghost=spirit. His spirit left his body.
Go and meditate on these verses. Not that paradise and hell are in the same location. But that's talk for another day. May God help you all come to the knowledge of the truth. Amen

.Acts 7:59"calling upon God" is a fictitious addition into KJV, not in Greek manuscripts older than textus receptus,the KJV source text.
If you deny this you further confirm your Pharisee status.
Janosky deals with facts & truth.


**.Acts7:59.lord Jesus receive my spirit"

Stephen's spirit left his body to immediately go be with Jesus"
** Luke23:46"Father into thy hands I commend (entrust) my spirit"
In the case of Jesus his spirit and soul went to hell"
in the words of Asalimpo

My questions:
what you entrust to Mr A" , does it go the custody of Mr A or it goes elsewhere?

Why would Jesus spirit go elsewhere (to hell) since he entrusted it to the Father?

Hairyrapunzel:
For you to show the bible verse which said jesus Christ resurrected in spirit but took another humans body you can't o.

Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu Kolo State dey seek reply wey your post done confirm say U no get brain to understand wetin u dey read ?

asalimpo:
dude stop putting words in the horses mouth. What is "materialised body"? The bible says the body of the messaiah would never SUFFER CORRUPTION. NEITHER WOULD HIS SOUL B LEFT IN HELL. WHAT is materialized body! Which scripture supports such junk? Any1 reading that passage without jw indoctrination,immediately knows that, Jesus is referring to the same body he was buried with. One and d same body.

*Materialized body refers to a spirit being who assumes human form or body
All angels who came on earth appeared to men with materialized bodies.
Na junk to lying Pharisee twisting the holy scriptures.

.###.Mary Magdalene saw Jesus impaled John 19:25,yet at his tomb she did not recognize the resurrected Jesus or even his voice until Jesus called her name. John20:11-16.
*.Asalimpo ,why?

#@#** He met his disciples behind closed doors. he came and stood in their midst" vs18-27
###$.Jesus never appeared to Mary Magdalene & his disciples in the same materialized body

* Jesus perfect body he sacrificed (the offering) for our sins did not see corruption because he was raised to life incorruption in the spiritual realm (Heb10:10.1 cor15:42-44)


** One of the credible eye witness of Jesus sacrificial death & resurrection ,apostle Peter wrote:
" Christ also suffered for sins once for all the righteous for the unrighteous that he might bring you to God after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm" 1 Pet3:18
The eye witness confirmed that Jehovah resurrected his servant Jesus (Acts3:12-15).

Between Asalimpo and apostle Peter the eye witness,who is more credible?

asalimpo:
man is a spirit too or you didnt know that?
You are a spirit. Didnt jw teach you that? In their quest to brainwash u they twist the truth.
Angels can take on human form but there no scriptural proof that they are shapeshifters. The serpent was possessed by satan! That's apparent not that satan took on the form of a serpent. All this has no bearing on Jesus body being re-fabricated and God stooping to lying. Otherwise,why didnt Jesus just descend from heaven with a MATERIALIZED body? Why did he hav to hav another deceptive body after death and lye to thomas that it was the same body?

Lying Pharisee twisting the holy scriptures.

Holy spirit was manifest as dove to Jesus (matt3:16) and also manifest as "tongues of fire." (Acts2:3) to Christ disciples
Asalimpo ,your holy spirit god was a dove and tongues of fire ,it's not shape shifters na ...or what else you got for cover up?

Like Maximus pointed out ,in the spirit realm there are no limits ,more so, while God's power is in operation.


**"Man is a spirit" yet his flesh and blood can not see Jehovah God or dwell in the spiritual realm where God dwells.
Keep lying oh Pharisee

tonyimadu:
I just noticed this post for the first time. Funny thing I see no comments.
It's clear people have no idea who Jesus is. They worship a God they do not know.
Nigerian Christian are only interested in dancing and twer king in church.
Now to your question..
Jesus christ is the great Jehovah of the old testement.
Exodus 6.3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.
Christ explains that he acted in the name of his father (God Almighty ) but his own name is Jehovah.
Because Jesus was representing his father, he often came in his father's name and not in his name.
John5.43-47 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
This further shows that Moses testified about Jesus. Verse 43 remains us that he came in his father's name. So many Christians thinks it was the Almighty relating to Moses when it was actually Jehovah(Jesus Christ)
Also in John 8.58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Remember 'I am' in the old testement? Exodus 3.14-15 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
Jesus was the same that related to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He told Moses his name was I Am. In the new testement he reminded the people that he is I Am.
So basically the name Jehovah belongs to Jesus Christ. He is the God of the old and new testement.

Oturugbeke !!
Lying Pharisee twisting the holy scriptures.
Imagine you are CEO of MTN . Due to pressing commitments , you assign your Assistant to represent you at your Annual Customers Forum ,that Assistant who comes to the Forum in your name, what's his function that role?

asalimpo:
RULE THROUGH FEAR:
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There's always an underlying theme of fear in satanic set ups. Free expression is curtailed or discourage. A culture of fear is established so that members are afraid to leave or are discouraged from questioning. This way members become pliable controllabe minions . Slaves to the organization.
Implementation:
catholicism- via the inquisition, so many ppl were killed for so much as reading the bible.
Jw: threat of excommunication and other rules keep d members docile thru fear.

Your last sentence confirmed you're a lying Pharisee asalimpo
**
** "v13
Drive out that wicked one from among you (expel him from your Church)" 1cor5:1-13.
Number 16:1-3 ,19-28,31-33



Unrepentant violation of God's righteous standards is asalimpo's
"free expression is curtailed or discourage"

Jozzy4:
asalimpo, go and solve your issues on the other thread

Asalimpo was having transmission confusion commissioned in the other thread.
He was well flogged in the other thread,he done run come here dey dull himself.
All la dem na lying Pharisees.
kikikikikikiki

OLAADEGBU:
I am a soldier for Christ who has been bloodwashed by the blood of Jesus that was shed on the Cross of Calvary. God forbid that I should be brainwashed to become a soldier for a belief system that will make one 10 times the children of hell.

Brainwashed gullible sheeple of con men, pastorpreneurs posting junk and trash he calls cartoon.
Worshipper of 3 face godhead
wey no believe in Jesus ransom sacrifice (offering) of his perfect body .
1 tim2:6 Heb10:10

The Bible no even talk say Jesus hands was nailed to the inscription entitled "THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS" ,but Olaadegbu dey lie say Jesus die on pagan cross

Danelo:
The bible was rewritten by them, they changed some words and if I remember well one particular verse in KJV or more is missing

JWs did not rewrite the Bible.
We use all Bibles but love the New World Translation (NWT) of the Holy SCRIPTURES because it is very easy to understand& more importantly the name of God& the author of the Bible ,Jehovah (YHWH) appears over 7000 times .
Whereas many Bible translations substituted the name of Jehovah with titles such as The Lord,LORD GOD etc.

Any verse not in the oldest Greek manuscripts were blank . But in the KJV translated from 16th century Textus Receptus,those blank verses were 'filled' with words lifted from other verses/chapters of the Bible.
For instance, Matt23:14 is a blank verse but the words of Luke 20:47 was placed there in the KJV.



Lying Pharisees will falsely claim that 'missing verses' were removed from the Bible.
Yet dem no get even any evidence for their lie lie.

OLAADEGBU:
4. Jesus manifested different bodies after the resurrection--the same way the angels took human form in the Old Testament in order to show the disciples that He had been raised.

Again, this contradicts what Jesus said in John 2:19-21 that He would raise Himself from the dead . . . physically. Also, Jesus is not an angel contrary to what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Jesus was God in flesh (John 8:58; John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8).

The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body He died in. This is a dangerous doctrine that contradicts the Bible and condemns those who believe it to eternal destruction because it is denying His physical resurrection which is the proof that He conquered death. The Jehovah's Witnesses need to keep Jesus' own words in mind when He said, "Destroy this temple and in three days, I will raise it up." (John 2:19). Since He was speaking of His body says John in verse 21, then it must be true; Jesus rose from the dead in the same body He died in. Also, at His ascension people watched Him rise to be with the Father. They saw His body ascend. That is why it can be said that Jesus, the man, is the mediator between God and man. (1 Tim. 2:5). It isn't an angel or a spirit creature that is the mediator. It is Jesus the man.

Lying Pharisee, Mary Magdalene "turned around and saw Jesus standing there but she did not realise that it was Jesus" Jn20:14
Why did she "not realise it was Jesus"?

1)It was not the original body Jesus had before his death.
2)She saw Jesus being impaled, bruises and nail marks on his body ( Jn19:25).but the resurrected Jesus that appeared to her had no nail marks on his body,so "she did not.realise it was Jesus" ( Jn20:14).

Every spirit being(angel) Jehovah sent from heaven to the earth had to put on human form ,Jesus Christ
is no exception.
Jesus confessed that he was Jehovah's messenger .
"Jesus answered:.'my teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me"-Jn7:16
"The Father who sent me commanded me what to say"
Jn12:49
(that's another hard knock for "Jesus is God" fraud. Any "God" wey dey obey command and go message for Jehovah no fit be true God at all! )
Jesus confessions proves he is indeed an angelic spirit sent by Jehovah.

Jesus was never specific his physical body will resurrect.
His body was a ransom sacrifice for our sins which replaced animal sacrifices of old testament.
"the sacrifice of the body of Jesus once for all" Hebrew10:10
No Israelites took back his animal sacrifice,Jesus never took back his perfect body sacrifice.



Olaadegbu's conjecture the holy scriptures disproves.
** "It is sown a natural body it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body there is also a spiritual body... the last Adam (Jesus) became a life giving spirit"
1cor15:44,45
***Because "Jesus was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" 1pet3:18


"the God of Abraham Isaac and Jakob .....raised Jesus up from the dead of which fact we are witnesses
".Acts3:13-15

Apostle Peter himself was an eye witness of Jesus resurrection ,he has spoken!


Lying Pharisee Olaadegbu does not believe Jesus " ransom sacrifice for all men"1tim2:6
He only misquotes verse 5which he twists & distorts

Barristter07:
You are not intelligent @highlighted, Not an insult because am going to prove to you why

The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek and translated to ENGLISH
My question says : Why did KJV translated Hades as Hell at Rev 20;14 ? To counter your FALSE. Postulation that ' Hades is not hell '

Emphasis on " translated " : the Greek word translated Hell at Revelation 20:14 KJV is Hades , Yes or No ? Does KJB rendering Hades as " Hell " not contradict your earlier claim .

Now we see the Liar



Your analysis is dead on arrival!


Even the KJV rendered Hades as " Grave"

" O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? " 1Cor 15:55 .

Why did KJV translate Greek Hades to English Grave ?

Am not sure you know anything about the subject you dived into.

brocab no.dey.understand
shishi.

asalimpo:
1) Deny eternal judgemnt or dilute the threat:
objective is to lure the victim into a false sense of security that they can eat their cake nd have it?
Major implementations are in jehovah witnesses,catholicism (purgatory) etc.

2) De-emphasize the Holy Spirit:
The holy Spirit is the vital force to living a powerful christian life. He is so important that 1) Jesus didnt begin His earthly ministry without Him. 2) He COMMANDED the apostles to not leave Jerusalem until they were embiud with POWER FROM ON HIGH- the Holy Spirit.
Satan's strategy is to put a distance between the victim and the Holy spirit thru various techniques like: disembodimnt: reduce the Holy Spirit the Holy spirit to an inanimate force. We human's dont relate with THINGS we relate with PEOPLE. By disembodying the Holy Spirit in the minds of the victim, the victim is never able to plug into the POWER of God-the Holy Spirit- and recharge his spiritual batteries. He runs on nothing and is hence like a branch cut off from d vine. Spinning his wheels on dead religion and of no threat to satan's kingdom.
Implementations:
JW: the holy Spirit is taught to be an impersonal force AND not a person.

3) Shut off access to God:
how?
Put human barriers of create lots of indirection to Him. When Jesus died on the Cross, the viel in the temple was torn in two-from TOP TO BOTTOM. Why? So that God would no longer be shut up behind walls. That action destroyed the old order. Obsoleted the jewish religion and marked the beginning of a new order- one where man could have DIRECT ONE ON ONE ACCESS TO GOD without the ceremony and barriers of man. How could this b possible. First man who would come before God would b re-created man-spiritually and to be able to stand in the presence of God,a Just Holy and consuming God,he would b clothed with the requisite standard of righteousness. Christ's righteousness Himself! Now,in the new order- God says,Man can come boldly to the throne of Grace. Yes,Come as you are. You are God's child. The Child of the King. Come in.
This barricading is done thru various schemes. Principally by instituting human hierarchies: higher-ups,man must go through to get to God.
Implementations:
catholicism: human priests,one contacts God through. Confess sins to a priest, etc.
JW: "elders" ,anointed ruling class. The higher ups are deemed more ENLIGHTENED/ANOINTED than the lower people and so, the lower ppl are priviledged to have them in their lives to access God. Absolute nonsense. In the new order,every christian (child of God) has 24/7 access to God without human intermediaries. Jesus purchased that priviledge for us by dying on the cross.

Confused lying Pharisee
Jesus is God ,so he had to rely on another God ( holy ghost)to give him power.

OLAADEGBU:
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up" (John 2:19-21).

Look at the very words of Jesus I quoted in red, it is clear enough for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear that He was referring to the temple of His body.



"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5)

When was this statement made, before or after Jesus' death? And that's if you believe that Jesus is alive.

Lying Pharisee wey dey.twists scripture

"For there is.one.God and.one.mediator between God and men ,the man Jesus Christ,who gave himself as.a.ransom for all..."

1tim2:5,6

That scripture referred to Jesus
ransom sacrifice.during his earthly ministry.

**** you can keep lying.
Eye.witness of.jesus resurrection,.Apostle Peter.said ."the. God of
Abraham Isaac and Jakob
raised.up.Jesus Christ.his servant
from the.dead."Acts3:12-15 .
You can go&quarrel with him.for his.exposure of your scam doctrines

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe that all scriptures (New and Old Testaments) are inspired by God?



I have discovered the sure way of making the false JW's to beat it when they turn up at my door is to ask them to pray before we start the discussion.



It is one thing to teach people using the inspired Word of God to convince, convict and convert sinners to Christ and it is another thing to teach using the Watchtower magazine to brainwash its adherents, thereby making them ten times children of perdition.



Did you perform your civic duties during elections?



How does your Watchtower magazine twists it?



That's why you cannot fault Muslims for having their own assemblies.

*1
All scriptures are inspired of God
except spurious additions in.KJV at 1john5:7,1tim3:16 ,Rev1:11 Phil2:6.etc

2.**
Who cares if you give excuses.to.avoid listening to.the good news?
JWs knocking on your door.it's a
witness to.you

**3&5
I said read.1cor7:10-17.& get the sense of it, you resort to lie that
" watchtower magazine brainwashed.it's adherents".Olaadegbu& falsehood be Siamese twin.


**4.Which civic duties did Jesus perform during elections.in.the Roman empire?

**6
You have.attended various.Deeper life retreat fellowship(.whatever name call it).,but.you.dey.condemn.JWs for having their own.
I get breathalyzer to.do test.for
you ,U dey smoke some thing?

Lying Pharisees.& double standard dey do.unholy romance



7**
U.no.even get.shame u.dey.post
rooster&bull cartoon to celebrate your dead 3.face Godhead.


Mr.Liar,.Phil2:9
Jehovah "God.gave him (Jesus)the name above every other name"

"I bend my.knees to.the Father. to.whom.every.family in heaven& on.earth owes it's name"
Ephesians 3:14

Mr liar,Jesus owes his name and position to his. Father and God.Jehovah.

U.no even shame to quote John 3:16.Jehovah God gave his.first born son ,his.first creation.to
die.for your sins..

1john4:14.done put your lie lie scam.for.refuse dump.

Jehovah.God alone.is.immortal.
We glorify the God and Father of.our lord Jesus Christ(Romans15:6.
Ephesians 1:3)
********.Hallelujah!!!!!

OLAADEGBU:
So you cannot say the truth for once and put the satan to shame?

I.don't know if you consumed any substance that interfere with your thinking/ability to make sound judgement.
TATIME is NOT Barrister07.

..JWs organize fun filled get togethers where they socialize
and have a good time on
regular..basis


Points9&10
Liar
The.holy Bible is JWs final authority on.all. matters
Since you've been on.NL ,, no JW had ever.interacted with you.with out.giving you.proof from your Bible even if.you.disagreed with it.

Jesus was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm(1pet3:18).
He.materialized into fleshly body to appear to Mary Magdalene and his other followers (Jn20:11-20,24-27
)just as angelic spirits.materialized into fleshly body to.speak with
Lot.and.Manoah,Abraham etc
(Gen19:1,2..Judges13:3-21)
It's the same way that the resurrected Jesus appeared to his followers. But you disagreed.
The body of Jesus that Mary Magdalene saw was not the same body that Jesus showed to.Thomas

U don't believe the words of Jesus in.John20:17.because his.words
countered your.Trinity scam.


It.is.Pharisees like Olaadegbu.whose.false doctrines hold
gullible sheepies.captive
JWs.are.imperfect people but
they preach.and.teach.what the Bible says
Yes.indeed


PS:.my.apologies for.any typing error

OLAADEGBU:
Perhaps it hasn't occured to you that you worship at the throne of the Watchtower.



Didn't your founder claim to understand Greek in interpreting the Bible?



Do you think of the souls sacrificed on the altar of Watchtower?



Why do you run when we invite you to join us in prayer?



What do you call the training you undergo for years to equip you for capturing the souls of men?



Is that don't you perform your civic duties, doesn't that make you unpatriotic?



What happens to the spouses of those who leaves your organisation?



Do you ever gather to meet yourselves worldwide?



JWs bow towards the altar of the Watchtower magazine.



Don't you believe in the writings of your founder, Charles Taze Russell?



JWs quote their Watchtower as their final authority.



As long as both of you carry out warfare against the souls of men, what's the difference?



You both preach another Jesus, don't you?



Now look at the similarities with the groups listed in the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/2750826/comparison-grid-roman-catholicism-jehovah#40228476

OLAADEGBU points 1,2 and 3 are false claims.
A Pharisee who testified that he loves the words of imperfect slave, Thomas more than his perfect Master Jesus can never be a true follower of Christ.

*Point 4
JWs will never join you to pray to a 3 faced triune Godhead.
Your church loudspeakers noisy prayers, shouting while praying & repetition of the same words over and over again are against God's principles on prayers
Matt6:1,5-7. Ephesians 3:14-21

*Point 5
Jesus kept teaching & training his disciples even after he left ,through various means (Matt6:9. Luk11:1-3. 10:1-10. Acts 20:20).


*Point 6
JWs are renowned for being law abiding ,peaceful, conscientious citizens where ever they reside..(Rom13:1-10).However we must
obey God rather than men (Acts5:29) whenever the laws of men demand what belongs to Jehovah GOD.


*Point 7
1cor7:10-17 ,read and get the sense of it.


*Point 8
JWs have two Bible study meetings weekly as well as two.Assemblies
and a Regional Convention programs they meet for fellowship

OLAADEGBU:
Let me make the comparisons simple for you. Muslims and JWs both deny that Jesus is God,

You both deny that the Bible, especially the New Testament has been corrupted or that it is not accurate.
You both deny that Jesus Christ was crucified on the Cross.
You both deny that Jesus is Lord, Saviour and God.

See the documentation below for comparisons with other groups.

Lying Pharisee at work.
** 1..in heaven Jesus calls Jehovah God "my Father".(Rev3:12,21) and on earth he also called Jehovah "my Father and my God" (john 20:17)
Meaning that Jesus is not God but Pharisees have LIED that "Jesus is God" ,that is ,God called himself "my Father and my God"
Pharisees & sense be like lagoon wey divide Lagos island from Lagos mainland.

*****2.Mr OLAADEGBU LIED.
JWs consistently showed proof that some verses in the New Testament were forgeries added into the new testament to support Trinity scam. Some few examples are 1john5:7 ,1tim3:16 ,Phil2:6 (KJV) .

The word "Godhead" is NOT in any Bible manuscript but today it is the maggi & royko of Trinity scam. Aside these forgeries, the new testament & old testament is the
holy word of God.

**3 Jesus lived ,died.& was buried as a Jew.(John 19:38-42).
In the Jewish custom ,criminals were impaled on an upright pole ,a stake (Deu21:22 ,23). Paul & Peter said that was how Jesus died. ,he was impaled (Gal3:13. Acts5:30).
The Latin word "Crux" , which is the root for English words Crucifixion ,crucified ,Cross were forgeries added into the holy scriptures.
Impaled was substituted for crucified, 'stake' was removed & replaced with 'cross'
**4 ,Again. Mr Olaadegbu LIED. Jehovah made Jesus lord & Christ (Acts2:36).

"For God so loved the world that HE gave his only begotten (created) son so that whosoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16.

Jehovah sent his created son to save mankind.
To all Pharisees & LIARS ,Jesus NEVER said God sent himself to save mankind.
"We have seen and do bear witness that the Father has sent his son to be the Saviour of the world"
1John4:14
Jehovah God alone is immortal ,HE never died (1tim1:17)


** Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man.
The last time I checked ,you can never be the arbiter/mediator in your own case.
Trinity is a scam

johnw47:
"No man has seen God at any time" is referring to the Father"

our christian Jesus is God, along with His Father:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

our christian Jehovah doesn't have "a god" with Him:

Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

Johnw lying Pharisee , your lies will keep haunting you on this thread

Let's use simple English wey u learn for school.
** "I make alive,i wound,I heal."

Mr LIAR & half baked student, "I" is how many persons ?


**-
Deu32:39. Jehovah says I am He. , the only true God (John 17:3)
"One God the Father (1cor8:6)


"No man has seen God AT ANY TIME" ,"neither have you heard his voice nor seen his figure"

Jesus means what he says.


That his Father Jehovah is the only
true God.

The word Jesus was seen because
Jesus is NOT God
Jesus is a begotten god beside his Father ,Jehovah's side. John 1:18
Christ was not contradicting himself,but knocks your "Jesus is God" fraud.

**.why u no Show us where "is" dey John 1:1?
Confused Pharisee, in Hebrew &. Greek languages, god means God , God means god.

** "spirit is not a body just as body is not spirit"
Your confusion tie wrapper.

OLAADEGBU:
At least I believe in the words of the 'imperfect slave, Thomas' which is God breathed for us to read and believe. Do you take the words of men (Watchtower magazine) above the inspired word of God (the Holy scriptures)?

Lying Pharisee, Kai !!!!

Is the imperfect slave ,Thomas ,the boss of his perfect Master Jesus?

For once in your life , pls be honest
My questions to you:

*Who spoke the words of John 20:17 & Rev 3:21 in your copy of the Bible?

** Who wrote 1Cor 11:3 and Ephesians 1:3.in your copy of the Bible?

johnw47:
lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

post my quotes where i have disagreed with any scripture, oh cannot stop lying false jw, son of your daddy the devil

1peter3:18 "Jesus...was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" , all your "Jesus raised his body" lie lie full this thread.
U misquoted John 1:1 to lie that "Father and the word is God"

Show us the evidence that the word "is" ,dey John 1:1


Johnw is with Peter and Johnw.was Peter.

Pharisee, coman twist am..

OLAADEGBU:
"Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself: handle Me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see Me have" (Luke 24:39).

Do spirits have flesh and bones?

Yes ,angels are spirits.
Angels met Manoah (judges 13:9-20) ,in what
state did Manoah see.them?
Angels visited Lot (Gen19:1,2) ,in what state did Lot see them?
Do the maths your self.

***."Jesus....was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" 1Peter3:18.

Apply the result of your maths , first to the encounter between Jesus and Mary Magdalene ( John 20:11-16).& secondly , to the Apostles meeting Jesus ( John 20:20 ,21,24-27)

Then, ask your self , why did Mary Magdalene not recognize Jesus initially until he called her name?

By now you should have known that Jesus had no nail marks when he appeared to Mary Magdalene.
Why?


Angels are supernatural beings with the power to materialize (change) into fleshly body to be visible to Lot , Manoah , Jakob etc
.
The resurrected Jesus materialized into any fleshly body he wants,that is why Mary Magdalene could not recognize Jesus until he called her name.
To convince Thomas , Jesus changed into fleshly body with nail marks which Thomas would see.& touch in order to be convinced.

johnw47:
yes olaadegbu, they are false witnesses
with a false christ that is "a god"
and a false jehovah who has "a god" with him

[quote author=johnw47 post=76606681]Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees.

.Jesus said
"No man has seen God AT ANY TIME , the only begotten god (Jesus) who is in the bosom position with the Father is the one that has explained him"
John 1:18

*** " The Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.
You have neither heard his voice nor seen his figure" John 5:37


In John 5:37 and 1:18 , Jesus refuted your "Jesus is God" scam.
He said "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME ( that sentence is very simple & easy for every one to understand,except lying Pharisees.)


** Johnw & Olaadegbu Pharisees ,can you show us where "is" dey for John 1:1?

Of a truth there are many things phony about these lying Pharisees who rejected the words of the perfect Master Jesus Christ , they pretend to love.