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As usual Okonkwo as his pentecostal cohorts display their poor level of understanding and simple comprehension of English. OBJ never said Jesus cannot conduct a free and fair election, what he said was that if Jesus came to conduct the election it would still be disputed by Nigerians which is very logical in the first place 50% of Nigerians are not even christians, muslims would even reject him as a credible umpire and if any christian should win they would say Jesus was favouring christians. OBJ was very right, the problem is with Nigerian politicians who are never ready to concede defeat. Whether the election is free and fair or not they would dispute it.

The official declaration is imminent the Nigerian youth has a huge role to play towards the realization of our collective dreams of seeing this country arrive as a great Nation were we would have security of lives and property and prosperity would collectively abound in the land. Were our children's future would be assured. Lets join hands and rally round this great visionary who is also zealously passionate about future. Lets spread the Duke gospel to all, he is tested and proven, he is a great visionary and he is commited to the rapid development of our great nation, he is experienced yet he is young, he has intergrity and he is NOT corrupt he simply is the best man for the Job, Nigerian youths don't let this opportunity pass us by lets join hands and rally round the man destined to lead our Nation to greatness.

jagunlabi:
The Disclosure has already started, but the official Disclosure is supposed to be done all at once by all the western governments headed by the USA. I have already mentioned this to you before.
I know that you are a jesus groupie, but if your jesus is an alien, then so be it. It will also be part of the Disclosure.


I personally do not need all the disclosure because i am already convinced that they've been living amongst us and running things for millenia. Ancient books are full of confirmations of this fact.

Jagun, we have been through this before and i agree with you that the probability of aliens exisitng is extremely very high however there is a lot of conspiracy theories out there and we don't really know what is true and what is being distorted. The"disclosure" you are talking about might just be wishfull thinking of zealots who go on to post their hallucianations of the internet and present it as insider knowledge of some top secret Goverment institution. On the issue of Jesus, he defintiely cannot be an alien, you might term him an "extrateresstrial" cos he is out of this world but definitely not alien. On the issue of them living amongst us what evidence do you have? Are you one of them?

Most christians don't know what it means to be a true christian, even the video above does not depict the most important quality and focal point for being a christian which is "love for others" which must be practicalized through good works. This is how James the brother of Jesus describes the christian religion.

James 1:27

True and undefiled religion in the sight of God the father is to take care of the widow and the orphan in their affliction and to keep one's self uncorrupted from the world.

There is no true christianity without genuine love for others especially the poor and the needy.

@Jagunlabi
Who is going to do the disclosure The only disclosure that would happen would be @ the second coming of christ with all the heavenly hosts at that point in time everything unknown who be made known.

Saw this coming infact i have been eagerly anticipating this news next he officially declares for presidency facing a dis-organized an fractionalized PDP after electoral reforms that would minimize rigging With God behind him victory is certain and we can look forward to building a great future for our great country. For more on how you can participate in The Duke Revolution, visit http://www.donalddukeorganisation.org/

Brilliant thread fantastic i love it Kudos to nuclearboy for starting it precise response by aletheia expected response from joagbaje Wow i am going to do excerpts from this thread and save it permanently on my hard drive, would be really useful in fighting the powers of darkness that have now invaded the church. @petres007 i look forward to your pending write up we must keep contending for the faith.


@nuclearboy,ogajim,aletheia,enigma,petres007
You guys are simply awesome and i am really encouraged by your posts, when i first joined NL i felf like a lone ranger trying to point out false doctrines and teachings that have taken over a lot of our churches, but today i feel really encouraged that i am not a lone and that there are several christians out there fighting for the faith and interpreting the scriptures rightly divided. May God bless you all. I have learnt sooo much from you guys.

Image123:
^bla bla bla. Tithe, the way to go! Go and read and pray and repent and fast kunle.
stop accusing of whatisnot

You are the one that needs to repent of scamming people off ten percent of their earnings,

@image123
Hebrew 7 clearly nullifies tithing especilly verses 11,12 & 18. Try looking for another scripture to quote out of context to support your daily bread.

This scam is the end result of prosperity gospel. Many have fallen and many continue to fall. seed ko fruit ni, awon ode oshi.

InesQor:
Na wa o. . .

This thread has derailed into an all-out WOF attack/defence war. I never see.

The evils of WOF and all other false doctrines being used to derail christians from their walk must be exposed.

I am still waiting for the day that pastor chris would go to any of the general hospitals in Lagos and heal at least one single person that as been indepently confirmed and obviously critically ill. all these vacant "testimonies" by faceless adherents would just not do, his stage managed miracles have been proven time and time again to be scams, yet his stooges still come and give us false testimonies here just becos they have been told to "exercise their faith and confess positive[even if it means lying to themselves] to receive and sustain their miracles. If Oyakhilome is being used by God he should not be afraid to go out to hospitals [especially Igbobi Orthopaedic hospital] and heal at least some of the confirmed sick there. If he is able to perform a confirmed verifiable miracle just once we would have no choice but to shut our "dirty" traps. All the choreographed stage play at his so called healing school would simply not do.

@Ayodeji
We can't possibly the only form of intelligent life in this universe that has now been confirmed to have trillions of planets.

@jagun
Are you the one that is going to disclose these aliens?

@deepsight
Hi i didn't hear again from you during the week.

[quote author=jesus. link=topic=430610.msg5948752#msg5948752 date=1272207571]I wouldnt want to jump into conclusion on why the bishop exempted the course from other regular courses being offered by the university.
I remember when i met the bishop in London in 2004 in company of other pastors, i asked one of the pastors in a london parish, Pastor ojeme(who have been redeployed to winners chapel Ibadan) why the fees was for convenant is high. He gave a response which the bishop do give that, the school is an entity other than the church though owned&managed by one person. My conclusion to the op is that since the church has WOFBI, which is like the theological arm of winners,may the bishop felt its ok, rather than having same with the university. This is what i think in my own opinion.[/quote]Very shallow excuses up there It is also nice to know that the university is not owned by the church even though church members were given the impression that it is a church project when they were trying to raisefleece money from them to build the university. if that is the case then it is simply a case of 419[obtaining by false pretense] I take it then that the university then is a personal property of oyedepo. Anyway the church is also his personal business.

Kabbalah (Hebrew: קַבָּלָה‎, lit. "receiving" is a discipline and school of thought concerned with the mystical aspect of Judaism. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe (His creation). While it is heavily used by some denominations, it is not a denomination in of itself; it is a set of scriptures that exist outside the Scriptures. Kabbalah seeks to define the nature of the universe and the human being, the nature and purpose of existence, and various other ontological questions. It also presents methods to aid understanding of these concepts and to thereby attain spiritual realization. Kabbalah originally developed entirely within the realm of Jewish thought and constantly uses classical Jewish sources to explain and demonstrate its esoteric teachings. These teachings are thus held by kabbalists to define the inner meaning of both the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and traditional rabbinic literature, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances.[1]

What is the relationship between kabbalah and th sixth and seventh books of Moses? they both seem to be dealing with Jewish mystism.

Isn't it obvious If they taught proper theology in the so called university they would be inadvently shooting themselves in the foot as all the hogwash which their self proclaimed bishop teaches them would be seen to be false. Students in the university would be able to easily and soundly see loopholes in the church's regular mis-interpretation of scriptures and of course it would cause a conflict becos the truth is contrary to what Oyedepo preaches. You have to remember that first and foremost Oyedepo is a business man and he would not want to embark on anything that would jeopardise hie business interests by allowing his students to learn proper theology. That aside i am almost certain that Oyedepo like most of his pentecostal colleagues did not go to any proper instituition to study theology, what most of the charlatans do is to take a part time six month diploma programme in one of the several unacreditted and shallow bible schools set up by other like mind manipulative pentecostal churches and learn primarily how to administer a church and fleece the flock. They learn very little about deep and true biblical knowledge and doing the will of God[ they prefer to invent their own scripture claiming "revelation"]

whoops wrong post 

How does that concerning you After all you don't believe in prayers whether private or public

REAL TRUTH:
This how craze dey take start,,,

Craze na understatement, these people actually desperately need help.

Here is the link to his facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Donald-Damien-Duke/18568433589

NSNA:
This could be a FAKE website beware of donating

Definitely not fake   , i got the link from his fan page on facebook you can search for his name on facebook and you can verify for yourself. Thousands are already signed up and he addresses supporters regularly on his page there.

To all of those who think PDP is indispensable, you are in for a rude shock the party is already falling apart 

[size=16pt]PDP Crisis Deepens[/size]

•Masari, Nnamani: We won’t honour invitation •I can’t be distracted, says Ogbulafor •Adamawa State chapter, NWC at war over Atiku •At last, NEC to meet Tuesday
From Chuks Okocha in Abuja, 04.22.2010

The crisis rocking the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) seems to be deepening. Two prominent leaders of the party and members of PDP Reform Forum, Senator Ken Nnamani and Hon. Aminu Bello Masari, summoned to appear before the party’s National Working Committee (NWC) today for alleged anti-party activities, have said they would not honour the invitation.
They said they had not been properly invited, explaining that they cannot be summoned through the newspapers.

Meanwhile, the NWC rose from its meeting yesterday in Abuja with a directive to all its state branches to admit former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar and his supporters back to the party. But in Adamawa State, controversy continued to dog Atiku’s re-entry as the state PDP said it has banned him from returning to the party for now.
PDP had summoned members of the Reform Group to appear before NWC at noon today for moving to oust the party’s National Chairman Prince Vincent Ogbulafor.

Apart from Masari and Nnamani, among those summoned to appear are former Senate President Adolphus Wabara, ex-Rivers State Governor Peter Odili and his former Imo State counterpart Achike Udenwa as well as former presidential aspirant, Owelle Rochas Okorocha.
The party was apparently toeing the line of governors elected on its platform, which on Monday condemned those moving against Ogbulafor.
And taking issues with the PDP Reform Group last night, Ogbulafor said he would not be distracted by the antics of those plotting to remove him from office.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=171605

Duke would contest on his own merit, he doesn't need PDP.

nuclearboy:
@kenny888:

Apologies! The subject matter has been treated.

The commandments are based on two precepts - love for God and love for your neighbor as yourself. Another way to put this is - what if a snake had bitten your only child and the hospital needed 20K for her immediate treatment failing which her life would be lost. Yet you only had 22K (the tithe of your income) on you! Would you then ask your pastor if you should pay tithe and "watch" God perform a "wonder"?

Use the answer when considering your neighbor who you should love as yourself OR your daughter. The best your tithe can give you is "recompense" not a life! Which is more important?

Brilliant example nuclearboy  i doubt if any of the hypocrites who claim tithes is sacrosant would think twice about it if they came up with a choice of saving their child's life and paying tithes.

mikeansy:
I wish I could reach this guy.

I have a blue print to dislodge the PDP which has to start now and the salient bits of it I don't wish to divulge on the internet.

Only if I can reach the guy.

Anybody know how to contact him?

Well if you log on to his website http://www.donalddukeorganisation.org/ you would find a column for feedback i guess you can post your suggestions there. Also if you searc for his name on facebook you can send a mail directly into his facebook inbox. Cheers

About those preaching another Jesus:

Titus 1:11-16:
11 These false teachers must be silenced, because they are turning whole families away from the truth by their false teaching. And they do it only for money. 12 Even one of their own men, a prophet from Crete, has said about them, “The people of Crete are all liars, cruel animals, and lazy gluttons.” 13 This is true. So reprimand them sternly to make them strong in the faith. 14 They must stop listening to Jewish myths and the commands of people who have turned away from the truth.
15 Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure. But nothing is pure to those who are corrupt and unbelieving, because their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16[b] Such people claim they know God, but they deny him by the way they live.[/b] They are detestable and disobedient, worthless for doing anything good.

Mmmh no reply to this post yet, i hope my people are responding and signing up to support The Duke to lead the Nigerian youth to greatness, the future belongs to the youth!

The Donald Duke Organisation has luanched it's website with which it intends to reach out to millions of Nigerian youth all over the world to support it's cause to restore Nigeria to greatness, to learn how you can assist please visit : http://www.donalddukeorganisation.org/

Lets join hands to make Nigeria great again

otitokoro1:
There was money in circulation but there are other medium of exchange (Batter). This is where Cummin, Alabater oil e.t.c comes in.

Kindly provide scriptural back up for this rubbish you just posted. The extent you people would go to justify this fraud against beleivers

otitokoro1:
Point of Order. Let get back to the point. What will you vote for Tithe?

When you include scam/fraud/419 in the voting options, i would cast my vote

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=421491.msg5918840#msg5918840 date=1271694975]God i have been missing in action, cant wait to get thru' my projects and come back to ask these hypocrites some scriptural questions. only i pray they all avail themselves. [/quote]The hypocrite in chief himself who although is a major proponent of the tithing scam does not even know or has refused to acknowledge the biblical definition and practise of tithes as ordain by God but would rather project the 419 version instituited by mere men and he has the nerves to address those contending for the truth as hypocrites, what a nerve

otitokoro1:
Cummin is a spice that is also used as a means of exchange in those days. It is easier to carry about.

@otitokoro
Stop deluding yourself, there was money in circulation in those days which was used as a medium of exchange. Their currency then was called "shekels" go an read your bible very well and stop demonstrating ignorance all in the intent of promoting a scam.