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FastShipping:
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How una dey my people?

I want to be fair to the guy in charge of my house.


The quote he gave for the work on my house changed four days into the construction after we agreed on set amount. To be fair to him he was right that the work was a little bit higher than he thought. I knew this because people testified that more materials needed for the fence. From my recollection, he went to the site between 4-5 times before he gave the quotation but he claimed he only went twice.



Since we have agreed on set amount, I did not expect to start negotiating with him again in just four days into the work proper after I paid 1 million naira to mobilize workers to the site. So I asked him to continue his work that he should impress me and base on that, I am willing to give him extra bonus on performance basis.



In fairness, we bought extra materials that cost more than 1.5 Million Naira for the project. From your judgment, how much do you think is appropriate to give to this guy on a project that we bought extra materials of over 1.5 Million Naira? The only place we had extra work was on the fence only.


He also claimed the dollar exchange rate affected the cost of materials he bought to do the M&E. I am also willing to work with him on the exchange rate. I lost money several times on this exchange rate but I never went back to my clients to give me more money. I never even thought about saying such things to my own clients.



I want to be fair to the guy because I don't want him to feel cheated. I have set amount to pay him as bonus but I don't want to overpay him or under pay him for the extra effort on materials of 1.5 Million+ bought for the fence alone.


So ladies and gentlemen of property section, how much do you think is good enough to compensate this guy base on 1.5 Million extra materials bought for the fence only.



I look forward to your inputs.

Regards.

If he IMPRESSED you as set out earlier, pay him whatever you had in mind back then


PLUS...
10% is ALWAYS a good measure of LABOUR on Materials.
pay him 150K for the extra work you said he did.

So, my suggestion.... and that is what it is, is that you pay him "150K + K"
"K" being what you had in mind earlier.

I like people who like to be fair to others while at the same time, they dont want to be wasteful.
Shows you have the fear of God in you.

BTW: My wife always say "it seems you have a soft-spot for this your welder" ...... when l randomly dash him money and any "excess materials l dont need!


but in truth, he is an embodiment of all l want from "an artisan" (honest, hard-working, never complains and intelligent); why wont l have a soft-spot for him?



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FastShipping:
I don't agree with the notion that demand and supply is the reason for high cost of properties in most part of Lagos. There are tens of thousand properties laying bare for months and years without anyone buying them. So where is the demand for these properties? Greed is the only reason why properties are being listed for unreasonable amount of money in Lagos..............

Economics makes us understand that "goods are bought ONLY when there is an Equilibrum".

There is Demand1
There is Supply!!
There is also PRICE!!!

Deman is considered "effective" when you have the MONEY to by what you want.

I am sure if those houses you said are "lying empty for Months", are given out at One Million Naira, over One million people will try to get one!

So, its not a question of "There is NO DEMAND" ..... its a matter of AFFORDABILITY!

The houses are empty because a lot of people cant afford them...... and it will remain so until someone with the cash, who also likes it, come along.

Its always like that for certain goods which fall under the category of "choice/ostentatious" goods.
Ofcourse, there are "face-me, l-face-you" all over the place that cater to other classes of people who are not after such ostentation.

Its not by force that someone must buy or build an expensive building.... or even build at all!
Just rent, if you cannot build or...
....Just build "small", if your money isn't enough for a storey building.



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TheGoodJoe:
“Let the Chief of Army Staff come on Saturday to dare the will of the PDP and let’s see if he will go back home alive.”... Wiked Wike.


And someone said Wike is smart.

I dont know how far this is TRUE...because l did not hear it with my ears but if ANYONE said the BELOW, about the President, the Army Chief of Staff and a sitting Minister...... then he better have a whole battalion Army to back it up.

Now l understand why TWO SOLDIERS were killed today, in Rivers State.

I hope the good people of Rivers will be smart enough not to allow Wike turn their land into a theatre of WAR.
He has "tactically" moved his own family to safety while using you as PAWNS!

Wike had recently been reported to have said: “Let the Chief of Army Staff come on Saturday to dare the will of the PDP and let’s see if he will go back home alive.” He also was reported to have said: “Buhari as a Fulani President, cannot take any security decision without my consent and if he does, I will personally send him to his ancestors.” He equally was reported to have said about his predecessor, Rt. Hon. Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi: “People of Ikwerre LGA[b] if you see Amaechi in your polling unit, beat him up or kill him[/b].”

if not for Governorship immunity, he should be arrested right away by the DSS.
Even his immunity can be waved by a Presidential order..... citing Threat to State, because the President is an embodiment of A COUNTRY and any UNLAWFUL threat to his life, is a threat to the country




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kossyablaze:
The lawmakers looks half dead na!Daura secret service

Like Ayo Fayose, he was busy forming Jack Bueur all the while, .....now that he got "touched", he is acting like he has no Liver again!

I always say it that these noise-makers dont have a tenth of the Steel, energy and drive that people like Fela, Saro Wiwa, Gani, e.t.c have, bearing in mind that these were even honest men, .....yet they were not able to overcome the Federal Govt!


Not to talk of illiterates, thugs and touts like Fayose

Just relax, its a question of time.....the evil that Men do, will leave with them.



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aniyphil:
This Adedayo guy sef . . .accept the lunch offer naa so as to get a better opportunity at returning the ever popular "boju-boju" slap to this old piece of shit ! . . .You saw stars . . .but if the slap is right, him go see planets

Just imagine?
They are not charging the useless and racist old man for Assault, at the least.

But turn the table and let the guy slap the "white" man, he would be incarcerated for the next ten years!

That is "American justice" for you.

#BlackLivesMatter


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BeeBeeOoh:
To break bottle for this man head just dey hungry me..





Last Bullet: Hypocrisy Is When You Don't Want Trump To Rule America, But Want Buhari To Rule Nigeria..

FOOLISHNESS is when you compare Trump.... to Buhari, because they have nothing in common.

Grow-Up and reserve your anger for Donald Trump!



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KlausVestner:
A leg[b]al right to kill someone? Does this is referring to the equity discussion? [/b]If it is so, how comes the husbands think they have a right to kill their wifes? Imho, the males even don't have the right to be violent physically or mentally against their wifes ....
It's always way way better to sit down and talk calm and civilised ( without any personal offence )
Yea, I know, when the brain of a male is just too weak and there is a lack of intelligence, so they don't have any logical arguments, then they tend to become violent ....but that makes their point not a single dot more reasonable.
And if a husband becomes violent, he will hurt himself in longer term, because a loving wife never would do that ....instead she's always caring for her husband being comfortable ...so the husband should care for his wife.

What rubbish are you saying above? Are you one of those female witch who want law so they can inherit easily, after killing their husbands?

No one should be given the right to kill their spouse........ MALE of FEMALE!
Both are capable of EVIL


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seunlayi:
[size=16pt]Oga Naval, to me all what you've said can't be the real reason for you to seek divorce. Tell the court the real thing and let the devil be ashamed.[/size]

I pray you get into the same situation in future.......... and someone will make the same comments about you.

KARMA is a b.ia.tch, you know.


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MrTimmyDux:
Dis is rubbish
I myself I am a Virgin and I can't imagine that on my wedding night that my wife will now start explaining to me why she is not a virgin, I mean d pain is, I can't use words to express it ,So u mean I have been keeping my virginity for many years only to be defiled by a ah sharabasantayabulw ah . That nite she is going back to her mother's house and she will pay with both her blood and money , But I don't support men beating women such a man is lesser than an animal bcus even male animals don't fight female animals, if a female dog bites a male dog the male dog will run.Ah if to say I neva repent I for just like to see her die and it will give me joy to see her go down 6 feet but if not for God...

if this is the type of man you have become, your Daada will be really disappointed! A DOg!

Both GENDER deserve respect,..... not just the female gender alone


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mitchyy:
I hope most of you realize not every virgin bleeds when having sex for the first time? Speaking from experience, this can be very embarassing especially when you know you've been keeping yourself. It only takes the enlightened ones to still look at other signs without just banking on the traditional blood on the sheets.
This might be the case here, if the lady is mature

STOP yarning poo!

Even the Lady never denied that she lied about being a virgin.

Her grouse is that she does not deserve to be flogged for such "minor" lie!

Experience my foot! You break "Hymen", a living tissue that is part of the body, constantly supplied with blood..... and you just "sank into a deep hole"?

Dont insult God please



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tosyne2much:
Brother, I think you're getting this wrong


The crux of the matter is that no matter how we try to embellish the truth, it will never change the fact that gender equality can never work in Africa, Nigeria to be precise


Under the contract of employment, I got to realize that the Labour Act made laws that make women enjoy certain rights and privileges protecting them from harm and dangers such as maternity leave; no woman is allowed to work underground (mining); no organization should employ a woman to work at night (in exception to those in medical field, doctors and matrons). Lastly, women are allowed to work as Law Enforcement agents but are not allowed to go to war front.


If we look at the things, we can deduce that women receive preferential treatment which places them beneath men. It has nothing whatsoever to do with misogny or backward mentality, it's just the truth in its unclothedness


I just hope people should stop getting worked up over things they know will be almost impossible to implement

Cc
MarieSucre
Freecocoa

Respects!

maybe they should rescind those things above and make it EQUAL?


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Man lashes wife over ‘false’ virginity claims

A HARARE man whipped his wife for claiming that she was a virgin before he married her after he discovered that she was not during their honeymoon, the Civil Court has heard.


“Each time he wants to bring home his girlfriends, he manufactures allegations against me and lashes me with his whip so that I run out of the house, creating space for him and his girlfriend.

“He calls me all sorts of derogatory names and he labels me a prostitute.”

Shepherd denied the allegations.

He told the court that he has never abused his wife despite “a few marital disputes that occurred”.

“The main problem is that she lied to me that she was a virgin before I married her, only to find out that she was not after the wedding,” Shepherd said.

“She used to deny me sex before I married her saying she was saving herself for marriage but she was lying. I have never abused her in any way except that we only have marital disputes just like any other family.”

Mrs Mateko ordered Shepherd to stop abusing his wife in any way and to keep peace with her at all times.

This case exemplifies why l say women are very deceptive...and generally smarter than men!

So, while they were courting, she was romping with another man, while lying to her Fiance (husband), claiming she is reserving her self for "after marriage" ..and preventing the guy from touching her!

Question is: Why did she just not marry the person that is shinning her Kongo and let the poor man be?

The is a case of Marriage by deceit and this therefore INVALIDATES the marriage, according to law.
Its like your groom telling you he is a man before marriage, only to discover he is lying and is actually a woman,! How many women will saty in such marriage?
The court will simply nullify it!

I dont support the man flogging her (even though she deserves worse) ... but he needs to get rid of her ASAP because sooner than later, she will find a way to poison him a nd go back to her lover.

In any CONTRACT, the "Goods" have to be "as described and fit for purpose". This marriage lacks both conditions.

I hope l am not the only one who noticed the JUDGE is a Woman....... and how ridiculous her judgement was?
How can they "live together and maintian peace" ........ when the man has just been defrauded?

Somebody will kill somebody between those too, very soon. I hope they get divorced to avoid disaster.

It is something like this that the "Women's Bill" thrashed by our Senate, wants to perpetuate!
God forbid.



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modath:
People talk about gender equality / female empowerment as if they are talking about a commodity that you can purchase or discard at will!!

It's first a mind soul conditioning before all other indices can fall in place...

If a man & a woman meet in an organization that frowns at married couples in the same work environment, fall in love with each other & then decide to get married, the question of who resigns doesn't even come up, it's a foregone conclusion that it's the woman otherwise adjectives like "greedy", "insensitive" "disrespectful" etc will come into fray. ...


People should just gerrarhia with their nonsensical hypocritical posturing!!!

You are actually the Hypocrite because l know you are smarter than what you wrote!

At the bolded: The decision on "Who resigns" is based on:

1.) Who earns higher at the moment in that organisation
2.) Who occupies a better post
3.) Who has the most chance of progression in that organisation
4.) Who has the best chances of getting another job easier, in the shortest time.

In most cases, "men SEEK AND marry their juniors" (WOMEN GENERALLY FROWN AT A "JUNIOR MAN" DARING TO OPEN HIS MOUTH AND TRY ANY LOVEY-LOVEY ISSUE WITH THEM! ) .............and if you factor in the above reasons, you will find that it is usually the woman who should seek employment (the Man is in a higher position and even uses his clout to help her get another job) in another organisation.

It is an ECONOMIC DECISION made by both would-be spouses, to the betterment of themselves. It has nothing to do with GENDER.

Grow-Up please.




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TonyeBarcanista:
Frontline Abuja politician and women rights activists, Ms Enna Itodo, wondered why a Senate that got the mandate of mostly women voters would reject a bill which was meant to secure the dignity of the women folks.

Well, maybe the "majority women" should not vote for them in the next election..... if that your assertion is actually not "made-up".

According to Itodo " The bill was meant to ensure equal rights with men in marriages, education and employment, i dont see any problem with that. With our history, this had become compelling in view of increasing discrimination against women in education and employment. In the United States, top corporate executives, and top producers in Hollywood, are trying to fix pay disparity between men and women"

First these hideous women need to be very specific about these "discriminations" they are talking about:

*Take Employment for example: There are so many hard working women who are C.E.O's of industries today, Who are Senators, Ministers, Judges, e.t.c. Did "some men" stop them from reaching such zenith...... or did some women help them (because they got " chest Bossoms" to get to that point?
Are we saying all these Women who are CEO's, who are Senators, Heads of Service, Ministers, e.t.c in Nigeria today, got to their current position on the basis of having TWO BOSSOMS on their chest? ...(or by dint of Hardwork?)
That would be insulting to such women.

I think these women are intelligent, more educated, more competitive, than their average Men....and that is how they got to where they are.

The Greedy "women activist/Feminist" should emulate them and stop whining

*Lets look at Education, as another example : Women make up the larger population of students in all our Schools! Who puts them in these Schools if not their fathers?
[/b] So how can we say the same father is discriminating against his girl-child?
In some Eastern states, you would actually be right by asking that Laws be made to encourage "Boy-child" into education because the girl-child makes up about 70% of the school population. [/b]
So who is suffering inequality here, if we are to be honest?

*Take marriage as another example: First, are these Women saying it is Women who should marry Men, pay the man's Bride price and make the Man change their surname to the surname (probably Mother's name! ) of the Wife?
I know its beginning to sound freaky and stew.wpid!!
Are they saying it is the woman that must be obliged to "put down house-keeping money" while the man becomes the "house-husband", taking good care of the children and would probably have to fashion a way to breast-feed them?

What is this "equality in marriage" all about, when both have different "COMPLIMENTARY FUNCTIONS" they are supposed to perform, to make the marriage work and be successful? I am sure this is not what these evil women are agitating for.... [b]so what can it be?

l gerrit! Its all about GREED!
Its all about "Properties and Money" within the marriage!
The Man should work for the properties, build the houses but Laws need to be passed now so that Women can seize such properties and Money from them, when ever the woman thinks she is fed-up with the marriage".
Hurray! We finally "unboxed" the HIDDEN AGENDA! Its all about GREED.

There are also those Women who are just "Men Haters" (They call themselves Women activists and Feminist), these sort of Women are only happy when a man is subjected to humiliation!
That is their sole agenda: EMASCULATE and HUMILIATE MEN.

Itodo said further " Are they telling me it is okay for a widow to be subjected to sundry inhuman treatments, be deprived because the husband is gone. It happens daily. The bill wants to protect widows, ensure they become guardians of children, have the right to remarry whoever they desire not compelled to marry her late husband's brother, share in[b] inheritance, inherit[/b] what she nad her husband worked hard to aquire"

There are already Laws in place, to protect a woman from any imagined "inhuman treatment, in a marriage". Its either a criminal issue (in which case the law courts are there to prosecute the perpetrators, like they would prosecute any Nigerian who commits an offence, Male or female)...
..or it is a civil matter which there are also Laws in place, when it comes to marriage.

The Marriage Act is an embodiment of Laws written to protect mostly women, in marriage.
They can seek out a Divorce, to opt out of a marriage they dont like anymore, so they have no excuse.... .
but what they want and still cannot (and probably will never get) is to try and force all men to do a "Registry Marriage under the Act". Any sane man will be very weary nowadays, to mary a woman under such Act because it obviously "endangers the man", going forward.

Rather than seek to legislate and give women unprecedented powers over their male counterpart (Powers which are being abused in the Western world today, to humiliate the same men who foolishly supported them to pass such laws!), all men should be encouraged to MAKE A WILL and make your wife your next-of-kin..... depending on the level of relationship you enjoyed with her, close to your death
Women should also follow suit, making their own WILL and making their Husband their next-of-kin.
With such, extended family-members, most of which unfortunately are also women, will have little or no influence in the assets of the dead spouse.

No one forces women to "marry their dead-husbands" brother anymore, these days! Even Men of these days find it very abhorring!
Women should stop using such dirty and cheap tactics, to further what they are really after. Women should comecout openly and be honest about their intentions.



But that is not what women want. They dont want anything that is "fair to the man". ITS ALL ABOUT "GREED-FUELLED" INHERITANCE and INHERITING matter!
What they want is a set of laws that put the "Male" at their mercy, laws they can use to humiliate and harass men-folks and generally turn them to "fearful wimps". Its NEVER gonna happen. Men need to wise-Up!

I know Nigerian men are generally loving to a good wife ( a few bad eggs here and there though)... but in general, a Nigerian man would do anything for his wife but Men need to be aware that Women are generally smarter and they plan "long term"!

This has nothing to do with EQUALITY, it is a subtle and surreptitious method at undermining men, humiliate and emasculate them in the long run.
Be nice to women, treat them right, pamper them, let them have their dues anywhere and on anything but NEVER GIVE-IN to FEMINIST BLACKMAIL.


The rejection in the Senate has nothing to do with Sharia or Islam....... it is a case of "Smart Men" coming together with "Decent, Hardworking, Competitive and Enterprising women", to thwart the evil devices of GREEDY and EVIL FEMINIST-WOMEN who want to reap where they did not sow.

Kudos to Nigerian women of such pedigree.




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Gerrard59:
I'm not surprised by the majority of comments I see on this thread. Nigeria nay Africa has a fvcked up mentality, which is why a nation's parliament will be against a bill that will, hopefully, eradicate violence against women(their wives, sisters, daughters)

Moreover, the comment that women aren't participating is as a result of the fvcked up mentality I talked about. Is it not on Nairaland working class ladies are advised against buying a car even when they NEED it? When they subconsciously make ladies develop low self esteem?
When they tell ladies not to dream big as if dreaming big is the right of men only?

Nevertheless, with increased awareness and most importantly, education, I see more women rising up to the challenge. 20 years ago, who would have thought that we would have female professors? Female engineers? On the other hand, we need to groom our lads out there to respect women and not think because you possess a D I C K then you have the right to r@pe a lady. It's ensuring that boys cook, wash clothes, sweep etc that we can entrench gender equality.
If we are to wait for the olodos we have in the NASS, na grey hair things oh.


Changing the fvcked up mentality of Nigerians is a task that must be done.

People like you are all "mixed-Up" in the brain!
You mix CRIMINAL ISSUES ...... with SOCIAL ISSUES! How?


Rape or Stoning (assault) or violence directed at any WOMAN....... are CRIMINAL ISSUES which ought to be dealt with by the Law Courts, some of which fortunately, are also women!
There are so many Laws in the statute, against such CRIMES and they apply to all and sundry (Male or Female),....what we need is to apply them and see them applied in ALL CASES
Even if we pass new 'gender-specific' criminal laws, we are still going to be faced with the same problem the old laws faced ditto ENFORCEMENT.
So, why the waste and duplication of efforts?

Now, EQUALITY, INHERITANCE SHARING, are SOCIAL ISSUES [/b]that need to be tackled within the ambit of our CULTURE.
Mrs Ransome Kuti was the first woman to drive a car in Nigeria and she drove a car over fifty years ago, millions of women also drive cars in Nigeria today so this has nothing to do with gender-equality.
[b]
Inheritance sharing is at the behest of the owner of the property and the Law does not and cannot force the owner or dictate to the owner, how to share his/her property, amongst their children.
Mind you, Mothers also own property and if they decide to give it to one of their female child, in their will, is their own prerogative.
This is a "Social Issue" and to start making legislation trying to "FORCE THE PARENT" on how to draw-Up their ill, smirks of GREED on the part of those Women advocating for it. They should rather focus on what they can achieve in their own life-time.... and WILL everything to their female Child, if that is their wish.

Now, I support GENDER -EQUALITY, when "properly defined".
As a matter if fact, l think Gender has always been EQUAL since day one because they are both Humans, with sense, intelligence and abilities.
There is virtually nothing a man can do, that a woman cant do.... except in the areas of Biological differences (A Man can carry pregnancies, right? A woman too can produce Sp.erm, can she?)

Thus, despite being "equal", whether we like it or not, Male and Female have "specialities" and the best of each of them is harnessed, When they COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.

These women making noise are not actually doing it to promote Gender Equality!
What they are after is EMASCULATION OF MEN.
But it sounds easier if they hide it under criminal issues like Violence, Rape (like it is only women that get raped or suffer marital violence? Men experience the same criminal issues but it is swept under the carpet because "EMn are supposed to suffer in silence! If they talk, Women say "You are not a man"!)

These Evil women are surreptitiously trying to pass laws that would render Men useless and at the mercy of Women for eternity.
The "White Society" have fell for these tactics and the result is what women want to replicate in Nigeria. It will never happen.

I am for respecting a woman, as much as respecting a Man.
I am for Equal opportunity for both Man and Woman but l also know that No employer leaves the better Candidate and employ the poorer one, simply because she is a woman!
Are we saying women are less intelligent, less competitive than Men?
Are we saying all those Women who are CEO's, who are Senators, Heads of Service, Ministers, e.t.c in Nigeria today, got to their current position on the basis of having TWO BOSSOMS on their chest?
That would be insulting to such women.

You would observe that those advocating for these obnoxious laws are Greedy women who want something [/b]more than what they have now (like those who are top level executives), [b]but want to get it through fiat, not by hard work, intelligence and being the best for it.
There are also those Women who are just "Men Haters" (They call themselves Women activists and Feminist), these sort of Women are only happy when a man is subjected to humiliation!
That is their sole agenda: EMASCULATE and HUMILIATE MEN.

Like l have said before, Women make up the larger population of students and in some Eastern states, you would actually be right by asking that Laws be made to encourage Boy-child into education because the girl-child makes up about 70% of school population.
So who is suffering inequality here, if we are to be honest?

Ofcourse, there are Men (really, they are just Boys with a D.i.C.k!) who dont see the bigger picture of what women hope to achieve in the long term.
They are too naive and too ignorant to understand "whats-Up" but want to be in the good books of their ladies.
But they wont know what hit them, when women finally achieve their sinister objectives.



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baebae:
The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) has proposed a N100 monthly charge on every debit card (ATM card) in the country.
The new charge is separate from the existing N65 charge after the third withdrawal within the same month. .

A monthly maintenance fee of N100 was also proposed every month for naira dominated debit card when used , and a N50 charge for other months when the card is used or not.
In its draft on the“guide to charges for banks and other financial institutions in Nigeria”, CBN has also proposed a N4,200-per-annum charge on foreign currency denominated cards as maintenance fee .

The apex bank has also proposed a N50 charge on every cheque leaflet obtained and used at the deposit money bank’s counter, The Cable reports. This is not the same as the collection charge on cheques, which is also proposed to be“one percent of cheque value or Naira equivalent of US $10 whichever is lower”.

The circular, signed by Kevin Amugo, director financial policy and regulation department, stated:

“The Central Bank of Nigeria is currently reviewing the extant Guide to Bank Charges, which came into effect on April 1, 2013,”

“The review, which is in line with the philosophy of periodically ensuring that the provisions of the guide accord with current realities, also seek to address complaints from customers of financial services, requests for clarification on provisionof the guide and absence of a tariff regime for other financial institutionsin Nigeria.

source
https://www.naij.com/765237-cbn-introduces-new-monthly-charge-atm-cards.html?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1350216675

Are these CBN folks ins@ne?

How many CHARGES would one pay in a MONTH, for using the Bank?

Is it the populace that looted the treasury or why are they taking it out on "ordinary Nigerians"!




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sdindan:
Truly this Buhari is not our president.



Always making speeches outside Nigeria.


I dont really understand.

I hereby donate to him a plane ticket, to go to Syria........... and talk about Fulani Herdsmen killing innocent Nigerians everyday!


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MarieSucre:
Pls stop evading. I am conversing with an adult. Do you support slavery and stoning of fornicators?? Simple!

Anyone with sense would not support that but l am sure we both know that Slavery has been abolished (there are pockets of people who sue was is similar to slavery ...like paying too little for labour or using "House-Boy/Girl).
Govt can make Laws to proscribe such Acts so that if covers both genders, instead of women alone.

Stoning fornicators is curently still being practiced as an Islamic/religious injunction and as such, only those who present themselves as adherents of such religion, have a problem with it.
Nigeria is not an Islamic country (we are secular) and as such, it is the Constitution of Nigeria, which does not have such clauses, tha govern a Nigerian in cases like fornication.
It is Muslims that must seek to either leave that religion if they dont want to be bound by such obnoxious rules or seek to change the tenets of their religion.
Remember, Christians to have to change a lot of "bad things" in their religion, to get ot the level they are today (as a religion).

Finally, let me point out that these thing shave nothing to do with Feminism or Equality of Women and Men.
*Men have been enslaved just as women
*Men have fornicated and got stoned, juts like women.
*Fornication itself is an act between both Genders........ so women should stop trying to take advantage of such things as if it applies only to them



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Mordyb:
Am surprised Remi Tinubu et al couldn't do shege for this bill to go through. Women are the cause of their own problems when the likes of Oduah and ekwunife can't even protest or use the womanly charms to convince the colleagues to push the bill but how can they when they will never like to see another woman reach their level


Good riddance to bad rubbish

Unfortunately, Women like Remi Tinubu did not get to where they are..... simply because they have "Female Instruments"!

Her types got there because they've got brains, intellect, capacity, competitiveness and they makes use of it.
she expects other women folk "who have it", to also use it...... not try to take advantage of their Instruments because it makes mockery of the hardworking and intelligent woman that abound in this country.
The world is always at the feet of any intelligent woman

It is the lazy, indolent, unintelligent, Gold-digger women who wants to "reap where they have not sowed" or attain positions that they dont deserve, through "Quota System" for women!

I thought we all agreed that Quatia system breeds mediocrity?
okay, if its only women that benefits, its okay, right?.

BTW: Women like you ridicule fellow women when you say they should use "womanly charms" to get what they want!
So, you are saying it is those "Instruments charms" that women have to offer......... yet you want them to be considered equal to men who dont use such "charms" to gain undue advantage?
You see why women like you make women lose their deserved respect?



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mccoy47:
WTF? Guy even though I don't support this women equality ish. I have to say this, your reasoning is warped oo. Common, don't u have a mum?
You stand alone on the emboldened.
#Say no to violence against women! BOTH GENDER

People appeal to SENTIMENTS........ when their argument lacks substance!

Say No to Violence against ANYONE, MALE OR FEMALE!

Or dont men suffer violence as well? Or haven't you heard of women who castrate their husbands, poison them to death, stab them to death, e.t.c?
Why is there no campaign to stop violence against Men as well?
Or better still why not just "Say No to Violence"? Period!


I know women are smarter in such "stealth things" ...and would fool some "she-men" into kow-towing since those once feel inadequate unless praised by women!
These subtle method of creeping around to change the laws in favour of women, ..to the detriment of their men-folk, by appealing to "sex.ual sentiments" MUST STOP because it wont work in Nigeria.


I am against discrimination against any of the gender, not just Man or Woman.



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mccoy47:
I stand with the senate on this oo. Call me misogynist, call me sexist. I don't care!.
Believe me if this bill was passed, you will start seeing lots of divorce cases from gold digging women as it is applicable to foreign countries!
I mean what those the silly bill tend to achieve by giving women equal right in marriage and divorce! Tah!!!

There is a reason God made woman from the rib of man and no woman is equal to a man!

I also stand with the Senate on this one, for the following reasons:

1.) I am adherent of GENDER EQUALITY, that is, a MAN is EQUAL to a WOMAN, therefore none of the two should be given a special preference.
That is the EXACT meaning of equality, just like one man is equal to another man and are treated equally, without any form of discrimination.
Women should consider themselves equal to a Man (if that is what they actually want..... or just some advantage over men.)

2.) Like a Senator observed, Women make 70% of Lawyer and Judges in Nigeria! This means women are already over-represented (if we are looking at it from the point of "numerical equality". This means they are already in positions of determining where "cases and judgements" go.
So, should men be complaining and asking for a Law to remove the "excess female Lawyers and Judges", for a position they are eminently qualified?

3.) Girl Education: This is a local problem within some families but as l understand,for every Igbo Man that goes to school, there are four Igbo women that go to school. The figure are near 50-50 in the South West where parents just send their children to school if they can or cannot afford it, irrespective of the gender[b] so, who needs a law for "gender education" here? Looks like it is the male Child but hardly wil you hear women high-lighting this![/b]

4.) Women want a certain percentage of all Jobs, CEO positions and even Political/electable offices RESERVED FOR THEM!
This is an insult to women themselves, except the lazy, greedy and opportunist failures amongst them who think the only qualification to a top job is is to "have a Bobby on your chest and a hole between your legs"!
The implication of such request is that "Women are less intelligent. less achievers, less qualified and dont have the rigour to achieve as Men"....therefore, we need to DO THEM THIS FAVOUR BY RESERVING POSTS AND OFFICES FOR THEM!

This totally negates the idea of EQUALITY that the same women are clamouring for.
It implies men a better human, than Women! They can achieve all their success by dint of hardwork, intelligence, competitiveness and cranial superiority!

But that cant be true because my own wife, by measure of intelligence, hardwork, intelligence and even superior knowlege, is a Director in a large conglomerate that has a staff strength of over ten thousand Nationwide and she has no less that 90% of all these staff, which includes men, under has control, in that firm.
Such women are totally against these sort of nonsense called "affirmative action/reservation".
The believe every woman should be able to prove herself, just like men prove themselves and only on that level can they claim GENDER EQUALITY

What we need si to strengthen our LAWS against any form of discrimination, based on GENDER.
You cannot discriminate against a person, for anything.... based on their intimacy..... be they MALE of FEMALE.

The trap we must no tfall into is to make separate laws for women and separate laws for men, that in itself will be discriminatory and nagates the principle of equality.

Now, to issues like "child bride", bride-stealing, divorce, inheritance, e.t.c, these issues are best tackled "INDIVIDUALLY" in the constitution because they are CRIMINAL IN NATURE and should not be taken advantage-of by feminist, to advance their illicit course!

For example, if the Nigerian constitution says the" marriageable age" of any child ...(Male of Female, bearing in mind that "sexual perverts" are also taking advantage of these women activists to further their own agenda; an example of these occured in a country like Ireland sometime last year) ... is "X-years", anyone who goes below it commits a criminal act. No "ifs", No "Buts", Finito!

Divorce is a peculiar case and l make bold to say, just as in some Western countries, Nigerian woman are seeking to emasculate men in Nigeria and "women and men of good conscience" should never allow this to happen. In the WESTERN WORLD, l need not point it out that their Man have been so emasculated that they live in fear of their Women/Wife! Their frustration can only be expressed in devilish acts like homicide (killing the wife and children) and suicides.
"Gold-digging women" have their eyes seriously on this one!

In Nigeria, we believe in trying our best possible, to keep the marriage together, in GENUINE PEACE..... as opposed to FEAR.
It is worthy of note that despite all these "strange divorce laws" instituted by women in this class (Feminist), it has never solved the marital problems in the West rather, it has made it very combative, turned it into a money-spinning circus for Lawyer and further broken down the family.

It can be said to b working at cross-purposes.
Nigeria will not fall into the same trap because we are supposed to learn from the mistakes of others.

The discussion is very wide but l limit myself to these few points for now.
I welcome contributions against my post, from others who have diverging opinions, as long as it remains intelligent and civil.



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king406:
u read my mind, why must they label it as 'dangote truck' why can't it be just truck

It had Dangotte written on it! That much should even be obvious to a fish!

Or do you think it was the dead couple that wrote Dangotte on it?

Grow some brain, abeg!



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INDUSTRIALFAN:
mtcheww you even have time to caution the OP.... It's the couple's car that ran into the truck not the other way round.. Not the fault of The trucker or the owner.... Reflector or not, if the late driver had looked well, he wouldn't be dead..... What's the use of headlamps if you don't use them?

If it is all about "Head Lamps and looking well", we the need to ask:

What is the "use and purpose" of Rear lights and reflectors on ALL VEHICLES, if Dangotte's truck wont have one?

As l know, your vehicle should be impounded (and they do these for private cars whom they can collect money from!) if it does not have front or rear lights.
Such vehicle should never pass a "Road worthiness test" (MOT/NCT in some jurisdiction).

People like you are just ignorant to a blissful level.




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irunooboo:
why the emphasis on Dangote as if he drove the truck? Who knows if the couple were not concentrating before the crash? Dangote is not the owner of any truck that has his name on it.

Rip to the careless couples who couldnt turn on their full lights to see what is in front of them

You are BIG DISGRACE TO YOURSELF!

Will Dangotte write his name (or would someone write his name) on a Truck belonging to NNPC?

If you work for Dangotte (in any capacity), then yo are under the banner of Dangotte, in that capacity.

"Dangotte" is Brand Name, gerrit?

Within the Dangotte "business model", he has a duty to ensure, directly or through his "associates/subordinates", ..that vehicles used for carrying out his business and which therefore carry his branf Logo, ARE ROAD WORTHY.

He is vicariously LIABLE for their failures. End of story

l think it would have been better if you shut your trap otherwise, you would know that there is a very important reason why vehicles are fitted with" rear-lights" and "rear reflectors".

Finally, Dangotte's truck has been responsible for over a ten thousand "premature deaths" of Nigerians, l have never for once heard that the Govt takes it up, just like it took up the deaths of innocent people in the collapsed building belonging to Lekki Gardens.

QUESTION: Is Dangotte above the Law..... just like Fulani Herdsmen seem to be above the law, in Nigeria?

Over to you, President Buhari, Commander-in-Chief of Fed republic of Nigeria .........and Governor Ambode of Lagos State




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yaki84:
r u saying fashola is incomp3tent n a nincompoop for not being responsive during the collapse of synagogue building n uptil now nobody has been held culpable n no one has been sacked.

What could Fashola has done, when the "Oga-at-the-top, Commander-in-Chief and President" Jonathan came to the site of the collapsed building to smile and shake hands with T.B Joshua? (probably hoping to get "re-election prophecy" )

At least you can see the difference between a "Yam-Eating" President.... and one who shows that "its no longer Business as usual"?



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agarawu23:
you aren't the builder, therefore concluding 7.3m won't build such is unacceptable by me. Everybody has his way of building and I can boldly tell you that what you cant do, others will and you will both get same thing at the end.

I am not a builder or engineer and I don't build.
But I av been having building experience since I was 18. I have worked with a big construction company (Dori construction company owned by Italians).

The tilling contract of DAY WATERMAN COLLEGE in abeokuta was awarded to my Anty which I was working for her then.

IKOYi hotel tilling contract was award to my Anty too with same company [Dori) and I worked there too.

I presently work in a construction company (though not in the building department) but there is no magic they perform that I don't know.

My love for money without thinking about future advantage made me not to learn construction work.

who will ever blv such thing can happen to lekki house that collapsed? Ofcus ppl will blv such houses were built by professionals. Huh? No be so?

Nobody is perfect when it comes to building and that's the FACT

If nobody is above mistake, don't tell me one house will collapse in future and one won't cos they use brown stone instead of granite.

So ppl that can't afford granite won't build house again?.

VERY WRONG! ?And how would you know that...... though l get assist from junior who is a Certified Structural Engineer and it was designed by competent Architect/Engineer.

Now, dont get me wrong! I am not saying anyone cannot do what l cant do........ ofcourse that would be a great lie because l simply cant prove that. I never said so.

But l have given a rough "monetary estimate" to Brabus's breakdown (He is a Builder, and l agree with the steps he puts forward because l have also gone through those steps lately).
All you need do is refute those estimates (like tell me you used 1000 Blocks in your own case, to build the house or x-amount of Cement.)

Nobody is perfect when it comes to building (TRUE) but different people take different levels of unnecessary risk...... and outright "suicidal NEGLIGENCE".
Have you ever wondered why the 3rd Mainland bridge has not collapsed since it was constructed, despite the number of stagnant/mobile vehicles it caters for on a daily basis? In some things, "mistakes" are not allowed!

Do it as it is supposed to be done, especially for Multi-Storey structures..... and you would at least have removed the "human error" part while God will take care of the rest.

But l can tell you that when it comes to building, its like a Computer: Garbage-In..............Garbage-Out.
Its not just about the "Professionals", its also about the Materials used.



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Whether #Wailers like APC Buhari or not, ............Alhj. Lai Mohammed is MILES ahead of anyone in the PDP... in terms if intellect, persuasive argument,fluent oratory and candour, all which are necessary ingredients for his past and present Jobs!


Just leave matter.




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BTW: That "Paper-Chewing" Yam eater is still a LEARNER!

holluphemydavid:
Pls can any1 tell me d different (difference) BTW d CBN rate and parallel rate, dnt still understand dis

CBN rate = If you buy something or need to make a forex payment and such payment goes through the CBN (by you filling Form M) or some sort of foreign letter of Credit. it is CBN that pays on your behalf, to the foreign creditor, at the "CBN-determined rate of exchange".

Parallel Market rate: Also known as "Black Market rate", is the exchange rate that you get in (or when you patronise) the informal, road-side, mallam operated exchange. It is done outside the banking sector (hence called "Parallel" market). Because of its inherent peculiarities/dangers involved (they dont pay tax as much, they dont incur much operational expenses, they dont take records, they cant be verified, you could be duped, no recourse to justice if duped, e.t.c) ........ but even more because those who patronise them have their "reasons" for doing so (usually, they dont want such forex purchase to be traceable, maybe to buy illicit goods, money laundering, hide illicit wealth in forex, e.t.c), the exchange rate with these mallams is usually very much higher than the official CBN-rate.

Thus, l always say if you have genuine business to transact in forex, approach the CBN through your bank, fil the necessary forms and the CBN would sell forex to you (by paying directly for your goods or services, not give you the forex in cash!) at the very much lower exchange rate.

But it has become obvious that the Banks are playing a fast one on Nigerians by telling you they dont have forex to sell, after collecting from the CBN and diverting it to the black market for excessive gains!

That is why l think Govt needs to monitor and deal with them ruthlessly.

BTW: They have a way of preparing "fake documents" to justify who they sold the forex to, though it s B,.I.G lie!
I've worked in a bank in the past so l know "how we roll".

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EgunMogaji:
"We buy things we don’t need with money we don’t have to impress OPPRESS people we don’t like." – Edward Norton

So I, EgunMogaji oko Afusat Olobe Iyo, makes sure that what I'm buying is for my own benefit and not for bling bling

YMMV.

Fixed.... very true though!



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brabus:
I live close to my business now in a rented apartment which my baby boy calls "a community"

The guest chalet of the chateau is inhabited by my kids home lesson teacher and his family who takes care of the massive compound.

Just imagine, the amount of money tied down...... unproductively!
Have you ever considered selling it now...... using the money to build a similar Pad around your "community" where you work and reside most?

brabus:
Now, I see every kobo spent on property as an investment which must bring quick returns.

Time-value of money, you know!



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FastShipping:
Your mouth sweet die

I won't mind a small luxury duplex of around 120-140 sq mt as my next project. My spread-out bungalow is being defamed by the same people I'm trying to impress (kids). I never knew kids love 2-storey buildings. I don't care how small it is.

Holla at your boy if you see a piece of land that is not more than a plot and won't cost a fortune. Remember I once said here no land worth 2 Million Naira, whether Banana Island, Maitama, Ikoyi or V.I. If an acre of land cost between $7000- $40,000 in a good U.S suburb with all amenities available, I don't see why any piece of land should cost more than 2 Million naira anywhere in Lagos where there is a slum two miles away from so called luxury areas of the state.

I have learnt never to put these children as "first priority" when l am doing a building!
They have not worked for money and yet want all the best things of life.... and they are selfish too!
I told mine, "you'll soon Graduate, make your Money and build what you like"!

But storey buildings are sweet sha....... especially if surrounded by Bungalows! You kind of "look down" into your neighbours compound and can see all they are doing, without even peeping! Not to mention the breeze!

"We'" have a full plot at Alpha beach area, sharing fence with Ocean View and some other estates there! #25Million, not a penny less! We have refused 23Million this January but in no hurry to sell. its fenced round for almost 15 years now.

I have Full plots in Ikorodu (Bayeku area) as well. 3Million each, fenced as well.



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Let me add flesh to it a bit since l am doing something along that line at the moment

brabus:
@ StevLegend,

Hope this will help. Let me see how much resources was allocated to the following:

1. Foundation - Merged into Materials, less Labour; See Bottom
2. Sand filling - depending on Topography: average 30 x 20tons Laterite/Sand > #900K
3. DPC - Materials included in below except Planks> #450K, Nails> #30K, binding wire> 20K
4. Ground Floor Block Work - 2500; Upper Floor Block Work - 3000 Blocks, Fence + Breakages - 500: Total 6000 Blocks.> #900K
5. Columns, Lintels and Slab (Ground and Upper Floor) - Iron> #1.5 Million, Granite> #800K, Stone Dust> #400K, Cement> #800K
6. Upper Floor Block Work - 3000 Blocks (see above)
7. Parapet - #200K
8. Roofing Woodwork - #250K
9. Roofing Sheet - #900K
10. M & E - Plumbing (#500K); Electricals (#600K)
11. Plastering - #500K
12. Aluminum Windows - #800K
13. Iron Rails - #300K
14. Chambers - #350K
15. Fence - #500K

Total to-date = #10,400,000 ........less Labour!

Leave out labour cost, I'll take it as 10% of the figure you get from the above.

Labour is a major cost for me and l will put it at that 10% estimate = #1,4000,000.

Estimated Total = #11,8000,000.
If we add unforseen/Miscellaneous to it (believe me, l have, and you will spend un-budgeted money) 200K.

TOTAL = 12Million.

This is my conservative estimate. A difference of #4.7 Million, that is over 50% of build cost!
I am doing one that is exactly at this stage at the minute and l am giving you figures from my spend.
Its a personal house so, l did not cheat myself neither did l endanger would-be occupant's life by doing poor-quality build (pipe-borne water, Stone Dust and Granite all through, e.t.c)


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