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HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX: 3:13pm On Jul 19, 2018
mfm04622:
For number 3, if you patronize private HMOs, it is what you pay for that you get. They have different levels of care for different amount. So you already know what you are paying for. You know upfront what is excluded.
For NHIS, i will confirm is cancer treatment and dialysis are excluded. All i know is for surgeries, patient need to confirm if it is included before the hospital will treat it. For my family, no care that is required have ever been denied by NHIS. As long as the Health Insurance method is the one patient pay for and not the one that automatically covers every citizen (in some countries, every resident) some treatment will always be excluded. However, it is always better with insurance than without
Oga, even under NHIS (not just HMOs) there are various procedures that are excluded. sad And even under NHIS, many hospitals will give you only basic level treatment, rather than specialised care or intensive treatment. NHIS has capped the payment they would give any hospital for each type of procedure. So several hospitals would not want to take a chance, by giving you specialised treatment that exceeds the fee capped by NHIS. In some cases, it is even better to sign up with a private HMO, than with NHIS.

Even for NHIS, you also make payment for the annual premium, or their annual registration fee is deducted from your salary. sad Kindly go and check. So your excuse that "As long as the Health Insurance method is the one patient pay for and not the one that automatically covers every citizen (in some countries, every resident) some treatment will always be excluded...." does not hold water. The bottom line is that NHIS does not cover every procedure.
Technology MarketRe: new 2TB & 4TB external hdd fully LOADED™ with exciting contents **DAILY UPDATE** by LaudableXX: 2:59pm On Jul 19, 2018
ceejay80s:
USB 3.0 or USB 2.0 port ?
I think it is USB2.0 port. Where is your office? Can I bring it there for repairs? huh
HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX:
sisisioge:
There I was thinking you would say HMO providers do NOT absolutely accept private individuals. Well, yes they prefer to cover people from a coy because of a guarantee of premium payment and it's generally easier to manage. However, private individuals too can buy the package.

Any other thing you said there isn't out of ordinary as even people with cash at hand have to contend with what their money can pay for at the hospital. Same way my 5k will only cover seeing a consultant for an eye issue as opposed to getting full treatment and the whole works inclusive of my glasses. Essentially, there are different classes of the insurance plan with your premium determining your coverage.

Conclusively, every healthy insurance provider worth its salt has at least one registered hospital in your local government. Even if you find yourself in your bestie's LGA in an emergency, your card is your first ticket to attendance. You can't help not having an HMO, its the cheapest first step to medical assurance you can give yourself.
As long as you guys understand that there are several limitations with using an HMO or subscribing to a health insurance plan, there is no problem. undecided People should stop touting health insurance plans as the be-all and cure-all for all issues pertaining to patients and their ability to get access to medical treatment in Nigeria.

It is one thing for your HMO to have a provider hospital in an LGA different from where you originally registered, it is another thing for that new hospital in their network to offer you medical services, if you are not registered with them. I have seen situations where even registered hospitals with a particular HMO will decline to offer you medical care, if you do not pay cash, simply because that HMO has not settled their bills for the past 2-3 months.

Others will merely offer you palliative care, instead of curative measures because your HMO has capped treatment under your plan to a specific amount.

Many hospitals in Nigeria are only registered with 4-5 HMOs at a maximum, even though there are over 170 registered HMOs which are meant to cater to hundreds of hospitals, medical centres, clinics and healthcare providers, nationwide. sad And in 7 cases out of 10, you might discover that if you go to a different LGA for treatment in a new hospital, they may not even be equipped to handle your case. There are over 774 local govt areas in Nigeria, so what makes you think the average reputable HMO will have a provider hospital in each of these LGAs? Please do not use Lagos or Abuja or Port-harcourt hospitals to judge, o! shocked In many LGAs, you are still left with no choice, but to scout around and pay cash out of your pocket. shocked I always advise people to set aside 10% - 15% of their monthly salary in an emergency fund, to be used for health-related expenses. Life is too important to be left to HMOs and an ill-equipped NHIS scheme, in Nigeria.

brownhawk:
sorry o if truly someone died but the health insurance I have is serviced by me every month. I pay 7k monthly as service. Different packages for different persons. Maybe their insurance didn't cover their demanded services. Still services will be rendered. Health insurance work for certain hospitals not all
Thank you for telling the truth, my brother.
HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX:
mfm04622:
1. NHIS, the government owned Health Insurance Company do not have that issue.
2. For NHIS, you chose the hospital you want as long as the hospital is registered with NHIS. You even chose two.
3. That is very true. Coverage is not immediate. However, the way insurance works is you have the insurance BEFORE you need it! Or do one buy his car insurance after being involved in accident?
4. For emergency care, your insurance provider cannot withhold treatment except the condition is excluded. No important procedure is excluded. However, private health insurance provide cheap options that withhold some important procedure. However, the buyer knew what he was buying before paying or choosing that plan
1. For NHIS, you chose the hospital you want, but if you need to receive treatment in a different hospital from the one you are registered with under NHIS, your insurance would not cover the new hospital. You can only change hospitals after informing NHIS, and it takes 2-3 months or even longer for the change to be effected. Let us assume you are registered under a hospital in Marina area of Lagos and you have to go to Minna in Niger state for a short assignment. If you fall ill in Minna, your NHIS plan, would not cover your medical expenses at a different hospital in Minna. Do you get it?

2. Yes, you chose the hospital you want, but after choosing that hospital and you need to undergo treatment in a different hospital, your medical expenses in that new hospital (which is different from the one you registered with under NHIS), will not be covered. Try it, if you are in doubt. The new hospital will just look through their list of enrollees which has been sent to them by NHIS, and they would tell you that your name is not on their list. I know many people who had this experience. undecided Some hospitals will even tell you that their last set of bills under NHIS has not been paid, so unless you pay out of your pocket, they cannot give you medical treatment.

3. I am glad you know that coverage is not immediate. sad Many people do not know, and they have to be informed. So, until the coverage comes into effect, even if you are registered with NHIS, you would still pay medical expenses, out of your pocket.

4. Some important procedures are excluded. Please do not say what you do not know. sad Cancer is excluded from NHIS. So is dialysis. Your NHIS provider/HMO can decide to withhold consent for any procedure that is not part of their plan. Go and check. You even contradicted yourself by saying "No important procedure is excluded. However, private health insurance provide cheap options that withhold some important procedure....." So if important procedure is not excluded, why would health insurance companies withhold some important procedures? huh

Under NHIS, Normal Delivery for a pregnant woman is capped at 7,000 naira per patient. If there are any additional charges, the patient has to pay out of her pocket. And the same scenario, plays out in many different cases. So you people should stop making it seem as if health insurance is an all-inclusive cure for all medical issues. It helps to a small degree, but patients need to be aware they would still make a whole lot more payment out of their pockets, for different types of surgeries or complicated ailments.
HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX: 4:08pm On Jul 18, 2018
brownhawk:
it's like u don't know what substandard is. Or maybe u are limiting medical service to malaria and typhoid drugs. Do u know how health insurance is serviced and with what amounthuhhuhhuh Do u even have an health insurance. Lol. Or u think our national insurance is like the #3500 crap offer u see being advertised on naira land. Anyway. I'll rest my case with u here cost most u of siding hospitals don't even have health insurance neither have u done proper findings on how health insurance is funded by persons and with what amount
Tell them, o! sad I am not against health insurance, but the way it is dished out in Nigeria is totally disheartening. cry When my sister wanted to buy health insurance, every HMO kept asking her if she had plans to get pregnant, or if she was actually pregnant. All those she replied "Yes,", because she was planning to get pregnant, declined to offer her any health insurance plan, whatsoever.

In fact, one of them said they could take her money for the premiums under their health coverage plan, but would not provide her with any cover for any pregnancy-related condition within the 1st one year of the health plan. And this particular health plan stated childbirth and delivery was covered under that same plan, by the HMO, o! shocked
HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX: 3:50pm On Jul 18, 2018
sisisioge:
grin grin ;DFunny! We are indeed funny folks in this country. I won't stop saying families should get health insurance for themselves... If you deem yourself eligible enough to get married, please be eligible enough to pay about just a 100k per a whole year premium covering yourself, wife and four kids. This will save you a lot of headache... Don't compromise on this.
mfm04622:
It does if you have Health Insurance. Do you have Health Insurance? How many people have Health insurance in Nigeria?
mfm04622:
There is health insurance in Nigeria. It was put in place by OBJ along with the pension sceme. Reason i respect OBJ with his wuruwuru ways.

There are two ways you fund Health Insurance scheme. 1, ask people to buy insurance (Nigerian way) or 2, deduct it along side other taxes. We all know second option won't work in Nigeria for now. It is left for people to buy the scheme in Nigeria
sisisioge:
HMO is every where! At least the substandard facilities we have is able to save 8 out of ten if quick access is granted. Just enable yourself the access is all that is required of you since you can't afford to fly to the US each time you have an emergency.
mfm04622:
No need for me to lie. What do i gain in that?

NHIS charges 15,000 per year per person.

15,000 divided by 12 months is 1,250 per month.
1,250 divided by 30 days 41.67 per day
i did not say you pay daily, just showing how cheap it is.
Learn to ask for clarification if you don't understand before accusing anybody
Most of you do NOT understand how health insurance is structured in Nigeria. shocked Most health insurance companies prefer to insure employees of an organisation en bloc, rather than single individuals who walk in, expecting to buy health insurance packages, off the shelf.

Secondly, your health insurance is tied to a provider hospital which means that you can only use that particular hospital under your health plan.
If you decide to switch to another hospital, you need to wait for a period of time (1-3 months in some cases) before you can start receiving treatment under your health plan, in that new hospital.

Thirdly, if you buy health insurance today, you cannot start enjoying the benefit today, you need to wait for 1 month before it kicks in. sad If you need medical care during that 1 month window, you pay out of your pocket.

Fourthly, for emergency care - if you are rushed to a different hospital from the one you are registered with under your health care plan, that new hospital still has to get in touch with your medical insurance providers before they can agree to treat you. If your health insurance provider withholds their consent, then that new hospital cannot treat you. Some hospitals do NOT even accept health insurance - it is strictly cash and carry. undecided

Finally, not every medical or surgical procedure is covered by health insurance. It all depends on the kind of ealth care plan you have in place.
HealthRe: Twitter Users Explain Why Hospitals Insist On Payment Before Treatment by LaudableXX: 2:02pm On Jul 18, 2018
dominique:
Hospitals are run with money not goodwill. They have bills staff salaries to pay, supplies are bought with money too. Most of us don't have health insurance yet we expect hospitals to treat us first before collecting money. We're seriously not serious in this country.
Yes, they are run with money. But patients who abscond without paying for treatment are in the minority, yet the hospitals go out of their way to use this excuse to deny treatment to those who are willing and able to pay for treatment, but who might be temporarily short of funds.

I once got a relative admitted in a private hospital. sad After 1 week, he was billed 275,000 naira. I paid over 240,000 but requested for time to pay the balance, as some of my cheques had not cleared. I dropped all my contact details and everything, but they refused to agree and insisted they would detain the patient, until the balance was paid. They even claimed they would add the admission bill for the days he would be detained, to the final bill. I lost my cool. angry So someone who has already paid 240k out of 275k, has not tried? Why not give him the benefit of doubt? And in this hospital, they charge 25k per night for bed space, o! A bed space that is less than 2.5sqmx5sqm. angry

The next day, a woman rushed her baby into the hospital. sad She was asked to pay 80k deposit. She emptied her purse and paid 35k, begging them to commence treatment, before her husband could bring the balance. They refused to treat the baby, until his condition grew worse. Someone had to advise the woman to take her baby elsewhere for treatment, if she wanted him to live.

What about hospitals where you pay through the nose, and still receive lousy, below average treatment? huh I know someone who was admitted with a high fever as well as stomach pains, yet he was being given daily injections and drips, without any remarkable improvement. He was discharged after paying a bill of 80k, but the symptoms still persisted. He now went to another hospital for a second opinion. That was where he was discovered to have an amoebic infection. After a course of antibiotics, he was as right as rain. Total cost at the 2nd hospital was 18k. undecided
TravelRe: Using Keke NAPEP For Ambulance Or Police Vehicle: Is It Wrong? by LaudableXX: 1:39pm On Jul 18, 2018
emmie14:
Brother I don't think I have any business with you. I pay my taxes in this lame country. The government aren't doing anything. Nothing is working including life. I am actually looking beyond hospitals keke and related facilities on grounds that are less useful. "e go better" have overtaken Nigerians sense of judgment. Kekenapepe is a public nuisance . Nigeria is 58years old endowed with crude oil in reasonable quality. Nigeria is not poor. Look at akwa ibom stadium built by one state but Nigeria as a nation hv no working national stadium. Tomorrow you will introduce kekenapepe kind of stadium. Travel oga and stop supporting evil people in government if you're not part of the government.
Unlike you, I am well travelled and have lived & studied in different countries. cool Any good govt looks at the best way to provide the right facilities for its citizens, at the most affordable cost. You cannot be earning peanuts, and decide you want to live like an emperor. You will just send yourself and your citizens into penury. undecided

The same Keke napep you are busy condemning, is being used by NYPD (New York Police Dept) in America, to patrol its streets & control crowds at malls and other busy places. sad It is called an interceptor, over there. The same China that is a super power today, still uses Keke napep in its rural areas for prompt evacuation of wounded people and sick patients, to areas where they can be treated. They have improvised, using the little they have to get medical care, to as many as possible. Yet, you still look down with disdain, on such interventions. Which facility or ambulance have you provided to help people in your own community? Tell us. shocked Many of you are good at criticism, but very poor at providing practical, affordable, innovative solutions to existing problems.

Abeg, don't quote me again until you have something sensible and constructive to say. Thank you...
Technology MarketRe: new 2TB & 4TB external hdd fully LOADED™ with exciting contents **DAILY UPDATE** by LaudableXX: 1:27pm On Jul 18, 2018
ceejay80s:
all in one hdd
When the interface is faulty, how can you fix it? My passport HDD usb port has gone bad, and I have vital info on the HDD! shocked
CelebritiesRe: Kechi Okwuchi Rocks Bikini At Daytona Beach In The US by LaudableXX: 12:56am On Jul 18, 2018
Marcofranz:
You are obviously stupid Marcofranz. I never mocked her as a matter of fact I admire her courage but flaunting that body online is so not right. I wish for you to get involved in air mishap Marcofranz whenever you intend to use one and may you burn to ash now Marcofranz, say amen
You admire her courage, yet you are insulting her for wearing a swimsuit. Can you see how clueless and contradictory you sound? mtcheew....

CelebritiesRe: Kechi Okwuchi Rocks Bikini At Daytona Beach In The US by LaudableXX:
Thalamus:
But why? No pun intended but her body is offensive
Marcofranz:
All the jargons you wrote up there are uncalled for . The guy just said the obvious truth so why are you so pained? Moreover he is entitled to his opinion.
May you both get involved in an aircrash just like she did, and if you survive, may you have a body just like her own. Now, say Amen. undecided
BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija Celebrates Her 67th Birthday Today (Photos) by LaudableXX: 10:32pm On Jul 16, 2018
nurshah:
As far as Iam concerned they are in the same both but Bola is better this is my opinion and Iam entitled to it

I don't c how she is a role model. Thank you
Bola is better? shocked Maybe she is better at laundering money for wives of Nigerian presidents. She follows Any Government In Power (AGIP).
Yes, you are definitely entitled to your opinion..... no matter how false and ridiculous it may be. undecided

BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija Celebrates Her 67th Birthday Today (Photos) by LaudableXX: 9:02pm On Jul 16, 2018
nurshah:
Let me state this and u know it, we all know it... Whether gamma or not, there are hidden pple henna this who are all benefiting.. Who most probably assisted to get the book and who are at the top. She as far as Iam concerned is just the face

Bola Shagaya impresses me more than this woman that's just how low I c her. I have nothing against her bug as fa r as Iam concerned she doesn't have the business acumeb or know how , is she the one doing all the work, no!.. If Iam correct one of our major oil companies is the one doing it and pays her monthly
Bola Shagaya that depends on govt patronage and helps first ladies to launder their money is the one you rate highly? Hehehe....I no fit laugh abeg. cheesy Alakija, has more business acumen in her little finger than many others have in the palm of their whole hand. You think getting an oil major like Chevron to partner with you as an operator in an oil block, na beans?
PoliticsRe: Senator Oduah: Igbo Must Invest At Home, Anambra Is Safer Than Lagos. by LaudableXX: 9:00pm On Jul 16, 2018
BreakupNigeria:
Why are you angry and taking it personal that our beautiful daughter is asking her fellow IGBOS to invest in our homeland?? Are you scared that your economy will collapse or what?? FYI, what she said is already happening our industries are increasingly being built in the East more than ever before.
Where is the anger? I am only asking why she did not take her own advice. That's all! sad
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX:
Nnamdiojukwu:
If you are wisdom bankrupt, intelligence zero,planning absent and faith empty,spiritual zero,that is not my business.

We planned to have two kids and that is achieved, if i want the third one,I will still play to God and he will do it again.

I am a winner,God did it to us thru winners,we are making good use of his servant sent to liberate the world yet some of you thomas can not dao same but criticise.

You preach love to a girl,fuucck her as you can,when is time to show how much you love and care,you take to your heels. You are a coward.
The fact that you mentioned that you are a Winner, is what is making me respond to you. undecided Guy, hold it right there, and stop your 'tales by moonlight.' There are countless Winners that have died of sickle cell anaemia, and other diseases. Whenever it happens, they sweep it under the carpet, and life goes on. One of them is even the wife of a Winners pastor in Abuja, who died last year. I also know a WSF cell member whose house was used for fellowship, yet his son still died of sickle cell anaemia, despite the fact that they were attending Faith Tabernacle religiously. Don't let me expose other things here. Please just stop giving people false hopes. Everybody's faith level is very different! shocked

mfm04622:
Tell me the theory they are supposed to follow!

Your theory says each birth has a 25% chance of being SS? So what you don't know is you can have 5 children and ALL will be SS! Each incident is independent. It means what happened in each birth do not accept what happens in future birth
Thank you for educating the clueless ones, my brother. sad Each of the homozygous SS alleles associate together, in a manner that is totally independent of their previous association, in each successive birth. Many people do not like hearing this bit. It is a random association, that cannot be predicted with accuracy. undecided Yes, theoretically there is a 25% chance of having a HbSS birth, but how often that 25% chance comes into play each time conception occurs, cannot be predicted with certainty. That 25% chance can happen each time the woman gets pregnant - which is what most people do not realise!
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:28pm On Jul 16, 2018
Reference:
God does not attend to deliberate mistakes made in rebellion. And rebellion is defined as having all the information and yet making a bad decision. For this the bible has said on every matter, 'get wisdom'. It is simply not wise to continue with such a marriage and if you do you will suffer inspite.... or despite God. This kind of attitude is what causes the world to ask, 'where is your God', when all manner of storms come. Most troubles today in the kingdom and with His children are just self inflicted: the failure of wisdom or the abundance of ignorance or the intransigence of rebellion.
I am so happy to see enlightened Christians still exist. cheesy The gullible half-baked ones will run around screaming "faith conquers all things," as if faith is a commodity sold in the open market, that you can dash in to buy for 300 naira per piece. They forget that faith is hard work. It takes time to build, and it requires a heavy dose of grace to sustain it. undecided Sometimes, even when you think you have enough faith, the answers to your prayers may still not come, because the sovereignty of God Almighty, is still a factor that cannot be toyed with.

Jazmiynne:
These people coming here to give testimonials on how God changed their genotypes from SS to something else or talking about how they married AS to AS without birthing an SS child, may God not allow you to be used in destroying another person's life.

My parents are both AS and not because they chose to love blindly but because my Dad had been given a wrong result when they went for premarital testing. In fact they didn't know until about 2 years ago, and I and my sibling are AA and AS respectively. But you will NEVER hear me advocating for two aware individuals to blindly enter such a union.

Just because my case or your case turned out an exception to the rule, or became a miracle as it were doesn't make it a norm. It doesn't give you the validation to open your two eyes and test God. Even Jesus Christ flatly refused to test the power of God. Yes God is All-Powerful and can do whatever necessary to fulfill his will but even the Bible knew that when it says "You must not put Jehovah your God to the test".

Yes you may think you have the money for exploring these options... But do you know the emotional drain that comes with spending that money? The frustration that comes with trying and trying? And what if the money goes? We live in an uncertain world. Even healthy couples and kids have complications. Don't subject yourself to a premeditated complication. There's a certain relief that comes from throwing our burden to God on problems we didn't see coming... When you already saw the problem coming you'd be dealing with the burden of the problem, the guilt that you could have avoided it and then the confusion towards God on top something that is not his fault. DO NOT TEST GOD. Even Jesus refused to do so.

In regular marriages, love fades and couples have to struggle to keep the flame. Imagine if you're adding a sick child to that naturally dwindling?

Tbh I think you should just start crying for the breakup already so you can begin your journey towards healing fast.
Oh my brother, may you live long! shocked In fact, you have said every single thing I wanted to say. Thank you and God bless you on all sides! cool
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:14pm On Jul 16, 2018
mabelly:
People abort for health complications so is this one. SS is a health issue and complication.

If my memory serves me right, biology states that SS genotype doesn't come in successions. That is If the first is SS the next can't be SS.

Don't know if I am 100% correct with this but science has made life a whole lot easier.
You are totally incorrect, sir!! shocked Stop trying to give them false hope, that is built on a flawed premise. Abortion should never be carried out, for things that can be prevented by applying simple wisdom.

mabelly:
People abort for health related issues. SS is health related. And again, according to the little biology I did back then in school, if SS should come the next is most likely not going to be SS. No way you would have 3 successions of SS.
Stop telling lies. angry I know people who studied genetics up to PG level in uni. You can easily have 2,3 or even 4 successions of SS, if the principle of independent assortment comes into play. It is like rolling a dice. It is difficult to predict which side would turn up, based on number of throws. It is a gamble.

ROSYL:
Bullshit! Please let’s hear about the little biology you did in school which says if you have SS, the next is most likely not going to be SS

Again, how could you forget the financial and psychological trauma that come with having SS kids or aborting them as you suggested?
You dey mind that clown? huh A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. He/she has imbibed some half-baked info, and is tossing it out as if it is the gospel truth. He/she is merely attempting to mislead people. undecided
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:09pm On Jul 16, 2018
swiperthefox:
You can do in vitro fertilization and determine the genotype before implanting the foetus. You might not give birth to SS. If you do, you do bone marrow transplant.
IVF costs about 2-5 million per cycle. Are you going to be the one to foot the bill for them? shocked Just asking, o!
PoliticsRe: Senator Oduah: Igbo Must Invest At Home, Anambra Is Safer Than Lagos. by LaudableXX: 12:58am On Jul 16, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
This is what the woman does....

In SW
She invested in over twenty properties

In NC
She owns about ten properties

In SE
She gives speech to her brothers to "go home and invest", its safer over there.
Don't mind her and the people she is preaching her one-sided sermons, to. cheesy I thought after her gospel, she would have relocated all her assets and properties to the SE. How come they are still in the SW and NC? huh
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:55am On Jul 16, 2018
mabelly:
Well according to biology and science SS don't come in successions. That's is if you get SS now the next baby won't be an SS. So yes flush one fetus and birth the next one.
According to which biology? shocked Have you ever heard of the 'law of independent assortment' in genetics? People can get pregnant 2 or 3 times in a row, and all the pregnancies can be SS foetuses. It is like rolling a dice. No one can predict exactly how the dice will roll. sad They say there is a 25% chance of having an SS offspring, but nobody can predict how often that 25% chance will come into play. Probability is frigging different from certainty. I have seen families with children. 2 successive pregnancies produced 2 SS children! shocked How does one explain it?
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:49am On Jul 16, 2018
jhadu:
03:53 25th September 2017 | Sickle Cell Prevention

SCD PGD Sickle Cell Disease Sickle Cell Anemia Genetic Conditions Embryos Sickle Cell Prevention

The last thing loving parents want for their children is suffering. Grazed knees and broken hearts are essentially inevitable, but almost all parents will do everything they can to protect their children from anything even remotely threatening.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME THREATS LURKING AROUND, EVEN BEFORE BIRTH.

Sickle cell disease (SCD), also known as sickle cell anemia, is a condition inherited from one’s parents and therefore not contagious. Unfortunately, this genetic condition has serious effects including vision problems, delayed growth, frequent infections, painful swelling of the hands and feet and fatigue caused by the anemia (shortage of healthy red blood cells).

The worst and main symptom, however, is severe pain (sickle cell crisis). Repeat episodes, of varying intensity, can last for hours or even weeks.

In time, it leads to organ damage which may or may not include the skin, bones, joints, brain, eyes, lungs, heart, spleen, liver, kidneys and penis.

FORTUNATELY, THANKS TO PGD, BABIES DON’T HAVE TO BE BORN WITH SCD.

Preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) is a procedure during which fertility specialists can test embryos for genetic conditions, before assisted implantation and conception. By doing this, babies don’t have to inherit certain conditions from their parents and suffer the consequences.

PGD is done through the biopsy of day 5 embryos generated through the In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) process. IVF is not necessarily needed to help couples who request PGD as some of them do not have infertility challenges, but to test for genetic conditions, an IVF needs to be done. Once the fertilized eggs become embryos, cells are biopsied to test for specific genetic conditions like Sickle cell. Healthy embryos can then be selected for implantation.

Preimplantation genetic screening (PGS) can also be performed on embryos during IVF treatment to screen for numerical chromosomal abnormalities. Bridge Clinic’s fertility specialists can test for 13 genetic disorders and chromosomal abnormalities.

https://www.thebridgeclinic.com/blog/how-to-prevent-your-baby-from-inheriting-sickle-cell-disease
What is the cost of this entire PGD+IVF procedure? huh Why didn't you include it in your write-up?
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:45am On Jul 16, 2018
ologun01:
You don't need to break up..

Read more on

1. PGD ( Prenatal pregnancy test)CVS

The foetus is tested about 10 weeks and if it's SS( you can decide to keep it or do as you wish) it's don at the sickle cell centre at idi-araba @ 280k as at Febuary this year, you can go there to find out more.

2. IVF + PGD

This is more expensive as it's an IVF procedure plus test done on the fertlized egg before implantation and might cost upward 2m depending on the centre you decide to do it.

Basically..you eggs are retrieved during ovulation and the husbands sperm is used to fertilize the eggs , afterwards the eggs are tested ( bare in mind during IVF , more than 10 eggs can be retrieved). After ferlization and eggs tested..you can discard the SS ones and request the AS or AA ones to be implanted back into you ( you can decide to have twins this way) and or freeze the remaining eggs( if you are lucky to have many that are AS or AA) so next time..you only come for implantation

Mind you this procedure cost alot( budget 2m and above for this)

And if you do none of the above and have a SS child

Then you next option is bone marrow transfer ( this is still but a procedure already done at uniben and sickle cell centre @ idi araba planning to start soon)

Above are your options medically.

If you both love each other as you proclaimed..those above are the available options now and will involve sacrifice.

All the the best and Good luck
Bone marrow is not 100% successful. I had a cousin who did it in South Africa, and still died after a year due to sickle cell complications.
HealthRe: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:34am On Jul 16, 2018
Nnamdiojukwu:
So you are still here,you this joy killer are you married?
Five years ago I received same advice from people like you,today my first daughter is two years with AA genotype, Christabel is seven months kicking well....what is wrong with you people,you put your trust in doctors more than God yet on Sunday you dress like say na u holy pass without put God first.
Which church do you even attend cos I am suspecting to be all this hail Mary that don't believed in God but Mary,I am very angry with you for given her that kind of advice.

Faith work wonders even today.
Iam a living testimony, I and my wife are As.
100-25=75.
I do not want to call you names, but honestly you deserve to be flogged! angry Is 'Faith' a capsule, a pill or even a syrup that can be swallowed with 1 glass of water, so that it generates automatic results? Are you aware that people have different levels of faith, and not everybody has been given the same grace to walk in the same type of shoes as you do? huh

This is how you silly people confuse fellow Christians and others in Christendom with your so-called theories, that do NOT hold water. sad Please for goodness sake, stop giving people fake advice. I know a pastor who did exactly the same thing you did, by marrying his AS wife even though he was AS, too. The first child was AA, but the 2nd and 3rd turned out to be SS. Did his faith disappear when his wife got pregnant the 2nd time? angry

DeRay98:
"Madam faith", pe le o. You have only 2 kids yet and non is SS doesn't mean you won't have an SS child if you have up to 4 kids later. All destinies are not same, not all men have same faith level.
churches now demand genotype testing from intending couples before approving their marriage in their churches, So don't tempt God with the danger you see coming ans refused to avoiding it.
Thank you for telling that joker the truth, o jare. sad Faith is NOT foolishness. They will not hear.
BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija Celebrates Her 67th Birthday Today (Photos) by LaudableXX: 12:17am On Jul 16, 2018
els0nm0rali:
And so? If she wasn't a good manager d'you think that business would still be standing?

Envy is not good.
You dey mind all those bad belle people? huh
BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija Celebrates Her 67th Birthday Today (Photos) by LaudableXX: 12:17am On Jul 16, 2018
Asowari:
no I don't undecided this woman is only rich because of oil wells not because she's a business minded person or anything.
See this one! shocked So you think a person who is not business minded, can get an oil block? You think a person who is 'not business minded' can put together the funds, expertise, equipment, contracts, long-term sales agreements, mechanical facilities, human and material resources etc, to drill, explore, pump and ship crude to different foreign countries, and then get paid in USD? huh You think a person who is 'not business minded,' can easily make a commercial success of an enterprise like oil exploration and production? Oga, please go and look for your senses, where you dropped them before typing your comment.

grandstar:
They dashed her an oil well. I don't see any business acumen in that

It isn't fair
Dashed who? shocked Why do you people such big lies? Are you aware that her company called Famfa Oil paid a signature bonus fee running into millions of USD for OPL 216, in order to get the oil block? Can't you do your research? Google is your friend. Stop talking like a moro'n.

FamilyRe: Man Earns 150k In Lagos & Wife Earns 750k In Kaduna, Who Should Resign? by LaudableXX: 12:03am On Jul 16, 2018
ono:
OK. So, I'm actually one of such. In fact, I live in Naija here while my wife works in another country and earns more than myself. I've been married for 12 years. I truly enjoy my work and it pays in millions - not the meagre 150K on the table here.

Someone earlier posted some questions to ask before making any move. I have asked those questions and I decided to keep my high paying Naija job. I visit wifey and kids often. There is no question of infidelity, disrespect or the other shitty things associated with the materialistic and lazy women of nowadays and stupid feminists (yes, I dislike feminists). And I have peace of mind.
Guy...where you dey since? shocked I no even dey see yah brake light again. How body? cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: First Footage Of The Rescued Thailand Boys Smiling In The Hospital(Photos) by LaudableXX: 11:47pm On Jul 15, 2018
bujebudanu1:
I actually stated that wen mother and child was still new

We shouldn't because of bad government paint Nigeria bad.

There are lots of teaching hospitals wey better far far for this country not to talk of privates
Please Oga, name all the Naija teaching hospitals that are better than the one shown in that Thailand picture. Just name them...we are waiting! angry Because it appears you have not been admitted into any one before, otherwise you would not be here defending the indefensible.
TravelRe: "60 Per Cent Of Cargo In Nigeria Goes To Onitsha"- NIWA by LaudableXX: 11:42pm On Jul 15, 2018
linkszelda:
I think you're on one of those drugs your criminal gang do sell and import from Philippines etc
Chisos! See finishing?!! shocked What do we call this, mbok?
PoliticsRe: Senator Oduah: Igbo Must Invest At Home, Anambra Is Safer Than Lagos. by LaudableXX:
Malawian:
The fact that you can list her assets in both SW and NC actually proves her right that SE is safer for Igbo investment.
So why are her assets still in both SW and NC?? shocked
BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija As A 7-Year-Old In 1951 With Her Sister (Throwback Photo) by LaudableXX: 11:37pm On Jul 15, 2018
Nightmareo07:
Sharaaaaaap!!!
Nightmareo07 Die there.!! Alakija Nightmareo07 is a big prostitute. cool

BusinessRe: Folorunso Alakija As A 7-Year-Old In 1951 With Her Sister (Throwback Photo) by LaudableXX: 11:33pm On Jul 15, 2018
Nightmareo07:
Hang ur self...Nightmareo07
Alakija is s not a prostitute grin

FamilyRe: My Husband's Pride Wants To Ruin Our Home by LaudableXX: 11:28pm On Jul 15, 2018
HEseesall:
The property only is in my name but we built it together
Since you built it together, then put Mr & Mrs (insert both your full names) on the property document. Chikena! shocked

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