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Both PDP and APC and all other parties are mad

Litmus:
They are, when Shekau is not being hidden by the French, him and his followers spend most times jumping from one lake Chad island to another, dodging bombs and bullets or hiding behind women wrapper, old people and children in villages to shoot at army and avoid military and air-force retaliations. Sometimes they run with the animals in Sambisa.

Staying in Nigeria is not forced, you know. Africa has opened up, if you don’t like Nigeria move to those paradise African countries you people always boasts about, they are often under populated too.They have electricity after all.

And people should leave their ancestral land for you?
Before Nigeria, those lands belonged to them and they to the land

So it is Nigeria that will go

Rugaria:
You have been warning Shekau for ages. He's still there snatching your tanks and men. Open war fronts all over. Let's see how that works out..

Don't mind them
They want to start a war with yorubas and Niger delta

There by fighting a war on multiple fronts
Nigerian army that can't beat ordinary Boko Haram, it wants to add Yoruba and Niger delta people plus biafra to its problems
I laugh

EzeNri:
Your cerebral capacity is high Sir. Have a good day.

Like I said, toss your Yemi Kwale NBS stat aside and visit Osun and the other states Yemi claimed Osun is better than (Anambra and Rivers).

Do the survey yourself and then compare your field experience which happens to be the reality with the trash on Yemi stats.

When I got fed up with Yemi lies, I had to tour SW villages by driving through them. I drove through Ondo, Ekiti, Osun, Oyo and Ogun and what I saw contradicts the reality Yemi was claiming in his lies-filled stat.

FYI, I have lived in Anambra and worked in Rivers for many years.

The Man asked you for evidence you are ranting nonsense

Jobless ipob who has time to drive around 5 states simply to see if a statistic was right
Yet in your task to see if the statistics are right, you couldn't document the results of your tour and what exactly you saw to reach your conclusion

Uneducated lying pig as usual with ipob

This ipob miscreants just want to lead Edo people to their slaughter.

Edo own Lagos indeed both ipob and edo come and try and see
Igbos just want this Lagos sha, even by pushing edo people to wahala

Akwamkpuruamu:
We have repeatedly said it that we in Ekiti state is not part of the charade of the Oduduwa nation

Lmao.. You are Ekiti?
Oponu, who dash your daddy Ekiti

Just break the god damn contraption called Nigeria

theBLOODofJESUS:
A welcome development. Anything to restore peace.

Peace can not be restored until the fulani completely take over the lands in the south or the south completely drive them away

Choose your path to peace.. Only one

PeaceLovJoy:
Return to the history books and you got the above and read again. Get wisdom and know why exactly the defeats came into play. And read the predictions there if they weren't fulfilled or not. I am not forcing you to use your head well, but at least, use just 0.1% of your brain naooo. You are carrying wooden decorations carved out by your own fellow man, you call them gods, and you are bold to defend your action. Lol. This is the highest level of stupidity.

A beg, feel free to continue worshipping them. In 2021, people can still exist worshipping woods made by their fellow men. Mehn! Some people cannot be saved. 2021!!!

All other gods
They are the work of men
You are the ONLY God (JEHOVAH, God of Abraham)
There is none like you.

God, I beseech you, let me not be stu.pid to the extent of worshipping a wooden, metallic, plastic etc images made by another man. I will always use my brain. May I not be foo.lish and lose my sense of reasoning to the extent of even arguing to defend such stup.idity. And I pray for every st.upid human under this bondage to be delivered. Lord, I dont understand how some people who claim to be literate in 2021 will carry wooden lifeless images and call them their gods. Hmmmm! Some people are indeed st.upid.

May you see light and be free soon.

Goodluck!

Stupidity is really your watchword.

There is nothing else to say. Your earlier comment made it clear that people only get conquered when their deities are weak.
You cannot justify the utter uselessness of your foreign Hebrew god to the Hebrews whose entire history is that of being conquered. Why would you foolishly compare Yoruba or Igbo God to Hebrew God if it is about who got conquered least? answer this

Even the Nazis beat the living shit out of them and you come here trying to bash people who don't worship your weak god

I'm using your own logic here so run that down real quick and answer the question if you still have anything to say

Stupidity is when one can't tell that sacred images are not worshipped as the Gods but rather held as sacred objects.
You are in such loss of touch with reality because its not just ignorance here it's something worse to not know that humans like to have physical representations and use symbolisms. So dummie, those wooden images are not worshipped by anyone

Get tha fvck out with your nonsense. You could have ignored the thread but you chose to be an iidiotic fellow like the typical bigoted hate filled slave that you are.
What stooped you from clicking out of the thread instead of coming to attack a people's heritage and beliefs?

PeaceLovJoy:
Look at the bolded phrase. Bro, change your history before it is too late. Your fore fathers are weak. If they are strong, your land and other parts of Nigeria will not be like this. If their gods are strong, no one can deceive them. They failed, and that failure is what you want to follow. The degree of their stupidity was terrible, yours will be extremely disastrous. These man made gods are fake and powerless. And those wooden images are what you want to start worshipping. Lol. In 2021.

I repeat, these are powerless gods. From Ibo to Yoruba to Hausa to Fulani to Efik to Ijaw to Calabar to wherever...all these are caricatures. I call them "man made gods".

There is ONLY one GOD. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I can bet my life on Him. If you bring these wooden decorations close to me, it is in your eyes I will pour gas on them and burn them Right in your eyes, they will turn to ashes. And that's the end.

We always sing a song:

All other gods
They are the work of men
You are the ONLY GOD (God of Abraham)
There is none like you.

Goodluck to you!

Let me give you a run down on how much of Hebrew history is rife with them being subjugated by others

1. 18th dynasty Kemet, particularly under Thutmose III
Kemet (ancient Egypt) swept across Canaan like hot knife through butter, conquering many Canaanite tribes including the would be Israelites
2. Assyrian conquest of the (northern) kingdom of Israel
3. Babylonian captivity of the people of Judah
4. Persian rule over all the aforementioned people including the Hebrews
5. Roman colonisation that lasted into the middle ages brouhaha with the area being a major site for European crusaders and muslims to take their turns ruling
6. Ottoman rule of Israel until 1917
7. Nazi massacre and genocide of Jews

So look here, Hebrews have been thoroughly beaten people in history with no achievement outside theology and their religion serving as part of the catalyst of certain present religions

So if the god of Israel was powerful and not weak and a failure I wonder why his people have always been beaten and conquered by others

At least the igbo and Yoruba etc were only colonised once and only recently( till the 1960s)

Before you can call African Gods failure, that tag should go to your foreign Hebrew god

Omoluabi1stborn:
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If anyone is not okay with it, let him or her move out and go back to his/her hut in his/her region

This should be done in all SW states.
Yoruba regional integration, taking shape

God Bless South West
God Bless all Yoruba lands
God bless all Yoruba People

A pity its only a few lines of the anthem I know
I have to brush up

Who knows more about Ngwu, father of Ikenga?

I suspect this is the igbo variant of Yoruba Ogun

prince2pac:
4. Agwu Nsi is the God of health and divination, and medicine men. He is used to understand good and evil, health, sickness, wealth and poverty, and fortune and misfortune.

Agwu is a trickster alusi, The trickster is capable of being either sex at anytime, or neither sex.

Respected and feared, Agwu is capable of sowing confusion in the mind of even the clearest reasoner. Agwu, however, can also clarify confusion, even when it is caused by human stupidity, the finite capacity of the human mind, or the evil actions of other persons or gods.

If it pleases Agwu to protect or “work with” a thinker, unparalleled lucidity may be attained. But if it pleases the god to sow confusion in someone’s mind, there is nothing anyone can do about it—except work with Agwu to lift the curse or

devise a technique of information gathering that overcomes the external confusion wrought by Agwu. Agwu is most dreaded by Dibia whose success as diviners depends on clarity of mind.

Dibia are therefore taught ritual sacrifices that they must make to Agwu at the beginning of every divination session.

Seems to me as if some parts of this is about Ekwensu

Lol look at the hypocrisy of Christians in this thread, supporting Rihanna but if it were to be a cross, we won't hear word again

AjaanaOka:
It is quite plausible that the proto-Igbo word for 'mother' had a '-na' ending. This is based on the the few Igboid lects that still use such forms today.

In Ekpeye, mother is ina. In the Ndele dialect of Ikwere it is nna. In Ogba, it is ona/nna. The rest of the Igboid speech forms (that I am aware of) use words that have a '-ne' ending.

My theory is that proto-Igboid word for mother had a terminal 'na', but that the 'a' shifted to 'e' to avoid confusion with the word for father.

It is not mere coincidence that all the Igbo lects that use a -na word for mother have a '-da' or '-di' word for father. In Ekpeye, father is 'ida'; in Ndele, it is 'ada' or 'nda'; in Ogba it is 'didi' (although nna is also used; perhaps reborrowed recently from the hinterland Igbo).

In much of the rest of Igboid, the word for father had evolved to 'nna'; and perhaps to avoid confusion with mother, a concomitant shifting from '-na' to '-ne' occurred with respect to 'mother'.

Very interesting indeed. This just gives more confirmation to my suspicion that -na [nya] words are for Mother and -da for Father
Some languages have lost the '- da' but they all retained the mother sufficiently
So unfair

Father is also "Nda" in Nupe and "Ada" in Ebira and Idoma

And I don't know if you noticed but all the igbo speaking areas using '- na' and '-da' forms for mother and father are southern igbo, which further buttresses your initial point.

Perhaps there wasn't a shift in the sense of bringing in a new form of the word but just how the two forms became to be used.. perhaps, '- ne' had existed for the longest time already.
You find "Iye" which I believe is connected in Edoid and Yoruboid languages and dialects
So this '- na' and '-ne' switching could be something that existed with the proto-YEAI speakers

Hellraiser77:
1. Such stories are present in few western Igbo communities including the igbanke people in modern Edo state.

The current Obi of Onitsha proclaimed recently that the aboriginals of Ife were a stock of Igbos saperate from their South east kin, which may finally put to rest the question of Igbos that claim they came from bini but don't know how they got there. https://newsexpressngr.com/news/38932-Igbos-were-the-first-to-settle-in-Ile-Ife-Obi-of-Onitsha

The current ooni of Ife corroborated it recently with stories of Igbo settlements that Oduduwa superimposed his dynasty on, thereby assimilating a vast majority while some groups simply scattered on various directions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/ooni-of-ife-and-the-igbo-yoruba-relationship/amp/

The problem with Yoruba history is the sheer amount of folk tales and fabricated bullshlt packaged inside First by Ajayi crowther who first used the name "Yoruba" and later Awolowo to unite all the warring groups that today call themself Yoruba

"Ugbo" are not more aboriginal than the other Isoro groups in Ife. Neither was the conflict between Aborigines and Foreigners... It was a civil war. Its funny how you are defensive over a story that isn't even told by igbo ancestors but by yoruba ancestors

Already you have defeated your argument by "they didn't know how they got there". Meaning there's no such thing in their traditions and all these are just recent attempts to fill in a void and unknown period of existence with elements from yoruba stories. So again, you can't know anything of what you are saying.. You still have to depend on yoruba history for what you claim is grand igbo history even as far as saying Proto-igbo of 8000 BC were the ones referred to, adding timeline inconsistencies. We should be getting all the narratives from igbos, but we get only reworked versions of the Yoruba narratives, where igbos have now been inserted

Fabricated bullshitt didn't stop you from reading and talking about it in the absence of any history from your side. Because its not as if you have the "non-fabricated bullshitt" that is independent of the fabricated one.
Worry more about igbo history, that's what the thread is about, instead of worrying about what the problem with yoruba history is, which tells more about your lack of understanding and limited knowledge on the subject matter than a problem with the traditional stories themselves. It's ok to be confused when you have little understanding of something but don't project that on everything, that should be on you alone.

Anyway, let's not digress. The thread should remain focused on Proto-igbo... In this case, it makes no sense to even dwell on Ife-Ugbo conflict

AjaanaOka:
The Igbo word for flood that I know of is iji. There could be other words for it from other dialect areas, but the Igbo of the Anambra River area and the Niger Valley call it iji.

I'm inclined to think that the 'Ku' words are a Yoruboid innovation that spread. Olokun was worshipped in Ika as Olokun and it reached them from nearby Benin settlements like Urhonigbe. Onoku is simply the Ukwuani adaptation of the same word.

I see. Makes sense

What do you think about "Nna" meaning mother instead of father in Proto-igbo? This would make it easier to connect the word to other Volta-Niger words for mother

Hellraiser77:
1. The Igbos/Ugbo of ilaje is just a tiny piece in a much grander puzzle of countless small settlements and polities that were aboriginal to the Ile-ife area before the arrival of Oduduwa and his followers, the current Ooni of Ife even called attention to this fact recently.

2. Call it ugbo or igbo, the fact is they were a very ancient group of fragmented settlements and small villages encompassing but not limited to the Ife area overseen by a highly revered priest/ruler called Obatala, the ilajes are just a tiny part of this Ife-igbos and no their history doesn't start around the 12th-14th centuries, that's just as far as any historian recalls

P:S- This does not in any way mean the Igbos of modern southeastern Nigeria originated from the Ife area

1. You wouldn't know this. It's not like there's any additional to the story that is coming from Igbo speaking towns.. The entire story from start to finish exists only in Yorùbá speaking areas but somehow the grand story is about Igbos and only the tiny piece is about yorubas

2. "Igbo" is standard Yoruba dialect, "Ugbo" is central and south Eastern Yoruba dialects... Which both Ife and Ilaje fall into, so yes Ugbo is actually what they called themselves then, as they still do now
As far as historians can 'recall' is also all you have. So what is the issue exactly?

AjaanaOka:
You know, I thought the -okun there would have something to do with the sea, but Blier ascribed a different interpretation to it.

Help me clarify something: was Igbomokun in ancient Ife, or was it somewhere towards the sea in the Ilaje area (as some people have said)?

Also, can you give some examples of -ku- words from other Volta-Niger languages that signify the sea? I would think that since the homeland of the Volta-Niger languages was far from the sea they wouldn't have a common word for sea.

Oh I was actually referring to "omoku" the other guy spoke about.

About Ugbomokun, I personally believe it is an oriki that has to do with "strength" not a place name exactly. I'm not very familiar with the traditions at Ilaje but from what I've read and heard from both the Olugbo and others there's very little differences. One of the few seeming differences is that Ugbo claim all of Ife was called Ugbomokun but Ife say only a part of Ife was called Ugbo (that is Iwinrin). Both might be right especially if I'm accurate that Ugbomokun is an oriki. Because as far as Ugbo were concerned they had already pulled out of Ife and created their own system under Obamakin, so in their perspective, their Ife was now Ugbomokun

Just a theory to reconcile the narratives

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You find "Eku" in Nupe, "Okun" in Yoruba and there was the "Onoku" example from earlier.. This is what my earlier statement was based on, only alternative explanation I see is that it is a yoruboid factor that spread

You are right on us not expecting a common word for sea because of the homeland not being around the sea but they still would likely have had floods that they might associate with the sea
What is the igbo word for flood?

AjaanaOka:
This "Omoku" part is entirely news to me. Are you suggesting there was an aboriginal group at present-day Ife who knew the area as Omoku, before the town became Yoruba? Is there a paper or an article written on this that I can access?

Appears more like a reference to the sea (oku)
-(Vowel)ku- is very well present in other Volta-Niger (or West Benue-congo as you like to call it) languages

There's also the Onoku deity (which is obviously connected to Yoruba Olókùn) in Ukwuani area of Delta state

The issue now is how does Omoku of Ogba have to do with Ife

AjaanaOka:
I guess you must be referring to the tradition that Ife in its earliest period was called Igbomokun (interpreted as 'the dawn belongs to the Igbo).

Interesting. Is this what "igbomokun" would be interpreted as in igbo language?

Hellraiser77:
Taken from 'Arts in ancient Ife, Birthplace of Yoruba by Suzzane Preston blier" Ancient Igbo populations in Ife shouldn't be news to anybody with interest in the deep history of ancient tribes of West Africa


I have hundreds of other articles and evidences But since you are already a history enthusiast and Igbo I ll let you put it together yourself just focus on the Obatala Era or the pre-oduduwa era of Ife history it's very clear that Igbos were aboriginal in modern day yoruba land.....there is even genetic evidence to back this up, I can provide if you need

Lol. I'm sure you know the people in this history of Ife are the Ugbo of Ilaje?

Also you spoke of an 8000 BC migration of Proto-igbo into the modern Ife area or something like that earlier(you weren't very coherent)
You do realise the Ugbo part of Ife history is very very recent in the grand scale of things? 12th - 14th century to be exact.
No way Proto-igbo left Ife 12th - 14th century if they were indeed in Ife before migrating South and then east according to you.

Lmao

Ask them for evidence of these claims and they start ranting and making more claims.

No odu-ifa that speaks of yoruba migrating to Yorùbáland has been produced yet
No excavated pictograms or art of any kind found in Israel to depict the Israelites as Africans has been produced

Oricrown24:
i see no reason why the Yoruba's migration story should cause issues or can't be true.
history has it were is always written by the victors of war and they tell it to suit themselves, also any race that has experienced slavery can not have a complete history. it is in the habit of the Oyinbos to capture the scholars in their victims community first, rename things, rewrite things in a way that it will be difficult to trace their roots. MY point ( IF THE BIBLE ITSELF STATES AND POINTS TO THE FACT THE HEBREWS WERE BLACK AND WHEN I SAY BLACK I MEAN OUR COLOUR) AND COMPARING YORUBA CULTURE AND COSTUMES TO THAT OF THE HEBREWS YOU FIND DIRECT SIMILARITIES)

1. Yoruba have no migration story
2. Stop blaming white people for your ignorance. Same white people who gave you the bible you go to for everything even Yoruba history
3. The bible being a collection of Jewish myths and legends doesn't state Hebrews are black. Rather it even puts a distinction between Africans and Hebrews

Sirjamo:
This blog site is one of the most useless blogs in Nigeria. Buhari cannot be stupid enough to issue a shoot at sight order on people trying to protect themselves from killers.


I am not happy that Igboho issued a blanket order for all Fulani to leave, not all of them are criminals, but since the good ones cannot expose the bad ones, all of them should leave.



The only thing I have ever supported about Nnamdi Kanu is the ESN, everyone cannot fold their hands and be watching, while some stinking herdsmen rape and kill their people. Enough is Enough!




I AM DONE TALKING

There are no good fulani. The sọ called good ones support the bad ones so they are all the same

Ideadoctor:
IFA is indeed the true religion of the Yoruba people, a great art,a great science. It was developed by a great Yoruba philosopher, Orunmila, it present a way of knowing the mind of olodumare through divination, IFA has 256 principal odus,although there are sixteen odus,but each odus has another alternative which makes it 256.

But the bad side of IFA is that some of it Philosophy goes against ethics and humanity, human sacrifice, tendency to get in contact with wrong demons,so I say it loud IFA is to be associated as a great art or science but not as a religion, hear me I grew up in the midst of elders and I know what they do in secret, they never have peace of mind,the truth is that only in Jesus is there peace and hope for the afterlife, Jesus said " love your neighbour as you love yourself, he said to the adulterer" go and seen no more", what religion could be greater than this,what I wrote is the truth,is you disapprove ask your heart

Ifá practice does not include human sacrifice. There's no tangible evidence or example of this

And there are no demons in Yorùbá beliefs. The closest thing to that are Ajogún spirits like death, sickness, poverty
Which can even be explained away as abstract personifications. And the point of Ifa is to protect against these ajogún.. So what nonsense are you saying exactly?

mandarin:
I posted this story I found from a science page. I don't know why it was titled this way, ghost could mean unknown origin. The truth is that even the Bible stated in Genesis 6 that some sons of God came and inter married with daughters of men and gave birth to giants and exceptionally advanced children which I presume continued today. The story is worth reading and let's have fruitful discussion as all these Ogiso , Eri and Oduduwa coming from the sky may be true, may be it was actually space ship or they were spiritual people . If history were to be believed then there could have been some descents from other planets whether angels or other being but stating that they were limited to any particular race may be deliberate as I believe that could have cut across all races which may include many so called geniuses as part of their descendants and I have thought privately that Orunmila, who invented the binary model called Ifa may have been a genius or a spiritual person but the factual Yoruba history are largely hidden in the algorithm of such spiritual corpus.

I just want knowledgeable people to make some meaningful contributions please

I think the pattern of the Yoruba, Igbo and Edoid groups talking of an ancestor coming from the sky has the same cultural origin.
It started as one single character but as these cultures split and spread apart their different experiences moulded that original story into different forms

This is similar to the European and Aryan story/belief of the sacred cow which is told in different forms among Indo-European speakers but today mostly associated with the Hindus

absoluteSuccess:
Amen,

Just that I'm not talking about any "school of thought" here and now, other than that I have bursted a conspiracy against my life and yours orchestrated by Mr. macof.

Don't obscure the path of justice. It's already playing out. If you are looking for the meaning of Adimula, this is it before you. The spell is broken and the hostage freed.

Someone once said we'll rot in jail. And you often said bloodline will do the job. I can say, owo a maa je funwa. May we not be a victim of our inquisitiveness. Owo a maa je.

He knows the implications of what he has done, as he has spied on my place of business and my family when either him or his spy visited my shop at Egbeda.

That's what he meant by "I know where you are".

He set me up with a man, whom I ignorantly gave my personal details (my bank and business flier and product) and was to help me in my career by sending me to Europe.

And to do that, I'm to give them all my details so they can deal with me as they deem fit.

That's what he meant by I gave myself out "trying to market myself". Meanwhile, the hook that got me on the phone during the conversation as orchestrated by an "unknown helper" was "are you not a mixer?"

Unknown to me, my post of December 26th 2018 in health section about marada exposed my inclination to the adversary. So I blindly went for the bait, but thank God I was not too desperate.

He knows the legal implications, hence he has remained silent. This is a case of premeditated crime bursted in the bud. If I've gone for his offer, don't know where I would be now.

This man is liable to answer for his crime as you can't tell the fate of others that he might have sent to their untimely deaths with fake journey to Europe or whatever. These are online predators.

He's a jungle judge but there is a legal system in the land to convict him for his crime. I have set that in motion. The last time I called his go-between, he missed the call but called back the next day.

Trying to bamboozle me around, later his last question was "where are you staying?" He promised to visit me anytime he drives by. That's their plot behind the scene.

My posts here will have one of the "laughing Semitic people" trace him out at the end. Like Harman he will pay. His crime against the state will never go unpunished.

I'm not creating campaign of calumny against him, did I have the stomach to bring someone to such an open ridicule just to score a cheap historical point? NEVER.

We've all played out intellectually. But a crime is a crime. A criminal is the one conspiring for the life of another. Let justice run its course. I'm not disparaging this fellow. Thank God I'm alive.

The last time I was tempted to uncover his ruse for his insulting my dad, didn't I change the thread to "oriki, is there anything historical in it for us?"? Let justice run its due course.

Okete gbagbe ibosi, o degba alate o kawo l'eri.

When I said this people especially this one has psychosis(seeing, hearing, believing things that aren't real) and other mental/psychological problems it was not a mere insult.
It is clear I was saying the truth

I question his rubbish he cries, I ignore him he becomes paranoid and sees a faceless macof everywhere out to get him. wetin man go do

You need help and just so you remember, between you and I, you are the one who has commented with deathwish on me, you and your partner olu317 are the ones who have tried to locate me outside nairaland, once thinking I am a certain Mr. Makinde. So with this and your recognisable mental issues, your slander is not surprising and i hope nobody takes this nonsense seriously

These allegations are huge and I felt it important to say something but I will not respond to this nonsense again.

The death wish now hidden from this thread is attached below https://www.nairaland.com/4475313/yoruba-hebrew-heritage/74
It is this same thread that i engaged these guys seriously on their ridiculous claims that they are yet to defend causing all this immaturity and slander


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The person who came up with this doesn't know Yoruba traditions and culture sha... But merely expressing his observations

FalseProphet1:
I see a great revolution taking place in Nigeria. I see bodies and blood everywhere. Many will perish for this country to be cured

the country itself should perish.. Leave the people
Let Nigeria end to save lives

TheLionofLasigi:
God...you should be hanged for this thrash...what kind of weed did you smoke that led you to spill this nonsense.

I'm glad more people on all platforms are waking up to the menace of these wannabe Hebrew Israelites and their different sects. Semitic people have a good laugh at us
It is just mockery

Hellraiser77:
[s][/s]
Tao11 the pathological liar ....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people?

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence)

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" ....how Igbo does that get?

cc Adadike

I don't understand if you are just born foolish or you grew into it?

Ugbo (Ilaje) is Igbo? Is this how desperate for igbo history you are? It is nobody's fault that you lot have just about no records of events of your past. Always seeking to attach yourself to other people who have history


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdtMSrqQpNI

This sounds like igbo to you?