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nadalion:
I ordered this really cheap ($1.63) full screen glass and I must say, it does the fullscreen/2.5d covering well.

Oga boss, does this reflect like the mocolo glasses? If no, can you help place an order on my behalf?

Ragnorak:
Heard him recently on BBC Hausa, to think that he's an Igbo boy is surprising.

Their dad has been in Katsina for over 40 years now. They were born and raised there. Hence, his good Hausa intonation.

The guy is gifted, no doubt.

engrchykae:
so messi wears the number ten jersey for a reason.simply because he is 10 years and 10 goals ahead of ronaldo.i have learnt something new today.

The guy's stat isn't correct; Leo has scored 31 Liga goals so far. That's a 12 goals difference, not 10.

jumobi1:
And it will remain so if the south secedes and becomes one country. Who cares about GDP? It's GDP per capita. Who cares about 2 billionaires? Split and we have one anyways and the source of the other one's wealth becomes strained. Nollywood and the music is based in the south. Who internet users epp? Im sure most of the users are in the south anyways.

We need to diversify our economy and have states control their resources if we want to be better as one Nigeria.

What's with the deep, profound dislike for other people?

Whoever doesn't know this silly, foul-mouthed fellow and his crass opinions by now is a learner.

Junaid Mohammed is a m.oron, just like Professor Ango Abdullahi and Tanko Yakassai. Those 3 idiots are some of the human disaster still plaguing this country to date.

oseka101:
Kogi best solution for that state is to split them up..... If not it can only get worse!!!

What a smart solution.

Lazy thinker!

Mckandre:
where have u seen xiaomi lag b4? Which phone re u using again

Don't mind that one.

Someone who has never held a Xiaomi phone before is here telling all sorts of lies. Nawa.

chi4ik:
wow, that's impressive. I believe the youths are getting their ass up against this. I over heard some plateau boys complaining about not having a indigenous centralized language in unijos.

It's disheartening, bro. Some of our parents didn't try in that regard at all. But like you said, the mentality is gradually changing, thanks to the younger generation.

In my circle and most the places I've been to, the youths feel all too cool to speak Hausa. Having an indigenous centralised language would have helped a great deal, really.

I believe that with time, the awareness will spread, although sensitising the people deliberately will spread it faster. Something has to be done about it.

nyben4eva:
He might be a victim of a covert operation.

I think so too.

It's annoying, bro. He's been cut shut just when he is beginning to fly.

You sound like an officer yourself. May God protect you all!

successmatters:
He didn't perform because the laws he met are completely flawed. Nobody can perform with these set of antiquated laws made TI favor a few. How successful is your current "sinator"?

Seriously? How do some of you people reason abeg?

chi4ik:
we are saying the same thing but we misunderstood ourselves. though I respect plateau people & don't have any grudges against them. but the issue of general language must be looked into because...........

That's true bro. I told my brother severally, that I'd stop news broadcasts in Hausa and find a way to get the churches to stop too, if I assumed the mantle of leadership in the state.


Because obviously, it is the language commonality that gives them inroads into the state. Because it makes them feel accepted even before they settled.

In my house for instance, we speak pidgin 80 percent of the time, while most of my cousins speak English strictly. My little cousin sister impressed me just this morning when she refused to hand me something I asked her to because I did in Hausa. She insisted I asked her in English, otherwise she wouldn't. I did speak Hausa to gauge her reaction because I know she doesn't speak it even though she understands. I was impressed by her reaction.

mcevans1:
Can you please guide me on how to go about it?

Here, boss https://www.nairaland.com/3092803/xiaomi-thread/276#53579932

Sorry about the late response.

chi4ik:
I didn't call all plateau people Hausa/Fulani but we have Hausa Fulani people as indigene here. they colonized you people that the general language in plateau state is Hausa language. even in the church, they have Hausa mass/service. when two non Hausa plateau meets, they discuss with Hausa language not English regardless that we have divergence of languages here, like Birom, Angas, Mupun, Jarawa, etc. in Benue & Kogi sate which is also part of North, do they speak Hausa at all? then talk more of their general language? young man, I'm not against y guys speaking Hausa but don't tell us that Hausa people in plateau state are not indigenes. the way ur ancestors settled in plateau that is how they settled as well. yes the population is Christians 70% while Muslim 30%. accept the obvious truth.

I know that you mean well and your observation is correct, but you're obviously missing the point.

Benue and Kogi States share boundaries with the South East and SS, where broken is vastly spoken. This has influenced them to a great extent. Plateau State on the other hand, shares boundary with the Hausa North. The need to communicate in markets necessitate the learning of a general language. And fortunately or unfortunately, Plateau people have long had contact with the Hausa man before the whites came.

If Plateau State had a general language of its own, say everyone is berom, there wouldn't have been the need to learn and transact in Hausa. But there are over 52 tribes on the Plateau, who barely understand each other, hence the adoption of Hausa. I am not particularly happy about it, but it is what it is. I have always asked why our forefathers chose Hausa instead of pidgin. And that was the response I always got. However, I'm glad that the mentality is changing. Maybe not in the rural areas, but here in Jos, more and more people have taken it upon themselves to teach their children English only.

There are lots of Hausa/Fulani settlers in Anambra, for instance. They also have a sarkin Hausawa there who also doubles as Senior Assistant to the Governor on Islamic Affairs. Going by your logic, should we also declare Hausa/Fulani as indigenes of Anambra?

The Hausa/Fulani man does not reason like the Igbo or Yoruba person. Such that wherever he finds himself, he considers it home. In the wake of the crisis in Ile Ice for instance, they cried out loud saying they have nowhere to go to. What do you think that statement means?
And for the record, the Muslim population in Plateau State is not even up to 20 percent.

You can read the Wikipedia page of Jos for more on this. I don't have the strength to type too much.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos

chi4ik:
d earlier u accept the truth, d better for u. in the whole plateau state, is Hausa language not the general language that everybody speaks in the whole 17 LGA of plateau state? yet u call them settlers!! you even prefer to discuss in Hausa language than English language & yet u are blabbing.

The same way speaking English makes you an Englishman?

Nawao!

chi4ik:
chase who out? they are pure indigenes. they marry ur people, convert them to Islam, build their houses, collect traditional titles/rights etc & yet u call them settlers? can you call all these Hausas in Jos North (agwan roko ) etc settlers? they even occupy better land than u.

Please find somewhere and sit down. What makes them pure indigenes?

So those reasons you mentioned qualifies a settler as an indigene abi? Now I know for sure that I shouldn't have engaged you in the first place.

chi4ik:
can u just keep quiet? we have so many Fulani people in plateau state & pankshin precisely. I have spent 10 good years in plateau state & still counting.

Are you sure you are okay?

You that are there, are you of Plateau origin?

The Fulani people you see are settlers, just like you.

When the chips are down, we'll chase them all out.

Guyman02:
There are Fulanis in plateau state claiming ownership of the state which has led to so many riots in recent times

There are Hausa/Fulani, yes, just like there are other tribes as well. They are all settlers, nothing more, nothing less.

It's their land grabbing tendencies that is making them want to claim lands that do not belong to them.

RosaConsidine:
Looool, you amuse me. You think I have to prove my Igbo credentials to you or anyone? My brother, I don't! If you think I'm not Igbo, well good luck to you; it doesn't change my heritage or parentage or ideology.

Forget about Rome not being built in a day - at least the Romans knew what they wanted and worked towards it. Nigeria has largely failed not because it is a union of different tribes but because there is a lack of political and social will to make it work. These things won't magically appear in Biafra. It's a mentality that us common to all Nigerians not just Yorubas or Hausas and if we don't deal with this mentality now that we are part of Nigeria, we will inevitably carry it over into Biafra and cause it to fail.

Kudos to you sir. Men like you are rare.

What's frustrating this guy na?

He always sounds pained!

9jakool:
You've said the truth. Other groups settled in Plateau state just like the Hausa/Fulani but you always see many of their members who claim that they are native to the land they settled in or conquered. You were shown hospitality and you repay by land grab and political subjugation. The emirate system does not give you entitleship all the North. The same way you have emirs in Nasarawa and Kwara state does not make them Hausa/Fulani states. Hausaland ends at parts of Bauchi. Any other areas South is native to the hundreds of various indigenous groups with ancestral claim to their land. Just because you install an emir does not mean you can now "assume" indegenouship. Last I checked an emir is an Islamic title and it does not apply to ethnicity. There is nothing I hate more than political hegemony over minorities.

Thank you, brother.

The average Hausa/Fulani man thinks that by populating a certain part of your state, they can lay claim to it. That's why I laugh at people when they tag the Igbo man a land grabber. Those folks up north are the worst.

I'm glad that enlightened people like you are speaking up. What you spoke up there is the gospel truth. Hausa/Fulani land ends in parts of Bauchi.

It's the same mentality that made Plateau people to stop selling lands to them. Indigenes with no ancestral lands to back up their claims.

Oloshi!

FFK is dumb, just like his followers.

Arab Yadam is a Plateau man from Pankshin. He should be either Ngas or Mupun.

[quote author=nyben4eva post=55780389][/quote]He's Berom, from Plateau State.

Binb:
Please stop spreading lies there are Hausa and fulanis in Jos North Local Government, Wase Local Government, and Yelwa Shendam.
The traditional ruler of Wase is an Emir whose name is Alhaji (Dr.) Haruna Abdullahi Maikano.
Are you saying that the Emir of Wase is not an indigene of Plateau State, or the former member representing Jos North at the House of Representative is not an indigene of plateau state?

Is there any state where you won't find the Hausa/Fulani in Nigeria? Or do you think we do not know that they all came from Bauchi State, aided by the whites and Babangida regime?

The Emir of Wase, as you tag it, is from Bauchi. His family house is still there to this day.

If every settler were an indigene, then we won't be discussing this. Hausa/Fulani are land grabbers who always turn to fight their hosts over their belongings.

The only local government with indigenous Muslims in Plateau State is Kanam. The Bogghom people are about 70% muslim, while the Jarawas are about 85% Christians. Mangu also has some Muslim population in Gindiri, but they are negligible, as they do not make up to even 2% of the population there.

Any Hausa or Fulani man you see in Plateau State is a settler, just like Igbo and Yoruba. It's on record.

nyben4eva:
O boy,don't expect that guy to return because he's already gone.The Nigerian army is highly corrupt and compromised.

That's the sad reality I'm trying to adjust to. It's difficult to believe, but it becomes clearer with each passing day that he may be gone for good.

The funny thing is, he wasn't even in Sambisa. Guy was on his own in Lagos jejely when his Oga asked him to mobilize some boys for an operation in an undisclosed location, which I suspect should be within Lagos State.

He did, but that was the last that was heard of it. The soldiers he took along with him returned with some of his possessions like home keys and phones, saying he went missing. On his part, the oga denied any knowledge of the operation, saying he never authorized it.

My suspicion is that he might have had the guy killed. Been trying to gather sufficient evidence to build a case or publish it online, but the pieces of evidence still don't add up.

I tire for the evil men in this country.

mcevans1:
I love this phone. How can I get one please?

You can on Aliexpress.

RosaConsidine:
I'm flattered!

https://anigerianrealist./

Okay. Guess I just found me an abode on the internet.

I look forward to reading your piece on a regular basis.

RosaConsidine:
I understand your fears. But as I have severally pointed out, we are being sold nonexistent theories by the people we look up to as leaders of thought and ideas. Do you think the average Hausa man or Yoruba man or woman is born with a natural hatred of Igbos? No! It's just sentiment passed onto us by our parents and religious and political leaders. I used to argue that Igbos were better than any other tribe back in secondary school till I realised that every tribe is unique in it's own way and no tribe is essentially better than any other. It's just a lie sold to us by people for whatever reasons they deemed fit and we bought those lies because we looked up to these people to provide us guidance. Some of my closest friends who have helped me at some of the most trying moments of my life have come from various tribes across Nigeria. They would not help me if this so-called hatred is inborn. But we have learnt to ignore what divides and separates us and instead focus on what unites us in a bid to make each other better. We need to stop selling this same lie to future generations because we would be doing them a great disservice, rob them of a chance to work together to build a country that's rewarding and developed and make them more susceptible to dubious and manipulative religious and political leaders.

True. I know that it's just a few bad elements perpetrating these heinous crimes. I have a good number of Hausa-Fulani friends myself. As a matter of fact, my closest friend even as I type this, is a Fulani guy from Jigawa. We have been friends since 100 level and remain even more so to this day.

On the most part, they are good people with good intentions. However, the problem is that Islamic practices, as done in northern Nigeria is badly flawed and portends danger, unless something is done. Radicalism is often a precursor to terrorism.

Despite our complexities and diversity, we can wax stronger only if we are all willing to accept and appreciate each an everyone in spite of our differences.

Islamic clerics in the north are quick to point out our differences and how more righteous the muslims are than everyone else. They seldom preach peace or tolerance. Such narrow perspective can only breed people with simplistic views of life. That's why they don't find it difficult to kill the "infidels."

All terrorist groups, whether boko haram or Fulani herdsmen share one common objective: the willingness to kill or harm Nigerians for their cause. This is why radicalism is ultimately a major security concern for all involved.

This is something I've seen and witnessed, not conjecture or hearsay.

We can have the Nigeria of our dreams. A place where every life matters. But first, the aggressors have to stop being blood thirsty. The peace initiatives have to begin with them. Because they drew the first blood, and the largely Christian South and Middle Belt have yet to retaliate.

dokiOloye:
There are hausa/fulani settlers in Plateau State especially in Jos north LGA who have assumed indigeneship of Plateau state.

Yeah, that's true.

But that doesn't make them more Plateau than the settlers Igbo or Yoruba people who are for the most part peaceful and respectful of their hosts.

The Hausa Fulani are land grabbers. We don't regard as and will never consider them one of ours. Hence, the constant conflicts.

That being said, I don't see how that qualifies Plateau as a Hausa/Fulani state. They may have gotten indigene forms thanks to IBB, but they will never be of Plateau origin. We can as well say the more productive Anambra Igbos who contribute significantly to the economy of the state are of Plateau too.

Besides, the Acting Director is Mupun.

RosaConsidine:
Well, I'm not surprised that a lot of the people that have rushed to condemn Charly Boy's article very likely did not read it through or did not bother to understand the points he's trying to pass across because most of them aren't offering a reasonable or reasoned rebuttal. I would encourage you guys to read through his reasons and then comment.

As for my own view, even I have been thinking of writing something along these lines on my blog. The Igbo nation specifically and Nigerians at large don't seem to realise that the current state of this country is not because we are a union of different peoples or that people from other tribes from ours just naturally hate our tribes. Nigeria's failure is the product of our collective failures as individuals, regardless of tribe, geopolitical zone, religion or ideology. Why this is important to note is that if we don't fix these individual failures, they would still carry over into whatever countries we produce from breaking up Nigeria.

Some weeks ago, I was in a bus and the driver, an Igbo man got into an argument with a passenger, a Yoruba man. After the passenger alighted, the driver started muttering that it's just because Biafra has not been actualized, else he wouldn't be found in Lagos. I found it funny because - who told him he would be anything more than a bus driver in Biafra too? Or we don't have bus drivers in Igboland? For a lot of the people I hear talking about Biafra, it's only an escapist fantasy for them because they are disillusioned with the country called Nigeria. But creating a new country wouldn't make their lives any better if they don't change the way they approach government, society, their civic responsibilities and an appreciation for the rights of every man which EVERYONE across the length and breadth of our country have failed at. I mean, Charlie Boy is right - it's not like the Yorubas or Hausas or Fulanis or people of other tribes are going down to Igboland to prevent it from developing. It's our fellow Igbo men in positions of leadership that are stunting our growth - same as the leaders in all the other regions of Nigeria are relegating regional and National development in favour of personal enrichment. Then they sell us this idea that we are each others' enemies so we can keep fighting each other and ignore them while they feed fat on our commonwealth. It's these same people we would get in Biafra and they would do the same thing they are doing in the current Nigerian setup and nothing would change.

This is quite compelling.

What's your blog, please?

RosaConsidine:
Great post. However, I must point out that differences alone are not good enough reasons for a separation. Let's step outside Nigeria and take a look at the United States. Sure, asides the native Americans, you might want to think America is just one huge tribe because they all speak English. You couldn't be more wrong. If you want to think of the lines that America could be divided along, there are plenty. There's political ideology. There's race. There's religion. There's societal views. There's social class. There's even language because you can't tell me all Americans have English as a first language and there are quite a fair number of Americans who speak Spanish or other languages primarily but also know or learn English because it is the official language and it would ease communication with people who don't speak their primary language. What makes America work is that Americans are taught to look beyond these differences and think of themselves as American regardless of what makes them different. The reason Nigeria is failing is because we are being taught to accentuate and highlight our differences and relegate being Nigerian to the background. The failure of this thought process is that even if you divide Nigeria into three: North, West and East; there are still more lines within these three regions to divide ourselves further along. If Biafra is realised, what stops an Imo man or an Ebonyi man from claiming marginalisation due to dialect because in spite of the fact that all the Igbo tribes speak Igbo, dialects differ. If you further divide them along state or dialect line, what stops the Orlu man from claiming marginalisation and seeking secession inspite of the fact that he speaks largely the same dialect as the rest of the people from Imo state. And at this rate, we would keep dividing and dividing till each man is his own country with his own flag and currency and still unable to live with his neighbours. No country on earth have people that are completely homogeneous. Even families, the basic, smallest unit of society are not completely homogeneous. The sooner we start learning this basic lesson, the faster we can start building a working society.

Wow. These are words of wisdom. I admire your perspective of unity in particular and life in general.

I am actually pro one Nigeria. However, two cannot walk together except they are in agreement. The essence of unity is for people (a majority) to have a sense of being part of humanity, the pleasure of friendship, of mutual trust, and of the desire to cooperate and help each other every way possible. Citizens should be able to look each other in the eye and find hope instead of fears.

Our people should help us overcome feelings of helplessness and powerlessness. Instead, they have caused our brethren to suffer unnecessarily cruel fates. Our women have been subjected to pain, with no joy in sight. The greatest gift one can give to their child is the wisdom gained from experience. How then are they to forget all that has happened and run into the enemies' embrace so quick?

The differences aren't much of a problem if we're willing to work toward identified goals. I mean, Americans don't butcher their fellow countrymen as if the country were a slaughterhouse. The Hausa/Fulani Muslims do not tolerate dissenting views nor do they accommodate those that do not share their faith or come from their ethnic stock.

Why must they kill our people just because they do not share their views, faith or bloodlines?

What's happening in Nigeria is ethno-religious cleansing. Beyond just language, it will be difficult for an Nkpor man to understand an Nsukka man if his first words are carnage.

To mete out such punishment on any person at all is the most barbaric form of wickedness, let alone one's fellow countryman.

In America, there's the willingness to tolerate others regardless of how strange or absurd their views, faith or circumstances may be. In Nigeria, they just want to kill. How then can we ever understand each other?

Obviously, the army hierarchy is complicit in these attacks and the entire boko haram brouhaha.

There's no wicked human like the black man. He will sell his brother over a pot of porridge. We have lost way too many innocent people to the selfishness of a few.

That's how my captain friend has been missing for over a month now and nobody seems to give a flying eff. Some dumb ass was even threatening to court martial him if he returns. Meanwhile he's well aware of what happened.

There are lots of bad eggs in the Nigerian Army. I just pity the junior officers and other ranks who sacrifice even their lives, all for nothing.

Well said, sir.

Numerous ethnic nationalities make up the space called Nigeria. As such, we should live together as one only if we are all ready to achieve a harmonious and homogeneous unity. Otherwise, each and everyone should follow a different path, which is not a bad thing in itself.

I have always advocated for one Nigeria because I don't want us to be divided, disunited and in opposition to one another. But it seems those who should be making movement for unification are always treading the path that further divides us. They preach unity on the one hand, and hold dagger on the other. It's almost as though we live in perpetual chaos. Boko Haram today, Fulani herdsmen tomorrow. And just when it seems like the dust is settling, religious crisis and tensions build out of nowhere. Leaders with foul mouths let them run like taps.

It would be difficult to make a meaningful life in all of these. Because such things inevitably end in conflicts between the various nationalities that make up the entity.

Nigerians are strong, stoic people. Otherwise this marriage would have ended a long time ago. We have endured a lot of hardship and put up with too many excesses of the oppressors.

Whoever tells you that the Igbo man has no reason for wanting out isn't speaking the truth. People now distrust and mistrust the Fulani man whom they hitherto considered harmless, and rightly so. I mean, people literally get slaughtered in their farms and homes for no just cause. Who'd take that?

In my world, when someone wants out of a relationship and you want them to stay so badly, you have to change your ways and invite the dissenting voices to air their grievances.

However, in Nigeria, everything is fire brigade. Charlie Boy has his reasons, which is great. But dissenting voices must be given listening ears, lest we all perish. Give them the peace and progress they seek or allow them to chart their own course. We cannot continue like this.