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RisenPhoenix:That's what I don't understand; are you objecting to the apologies he gave already or the extra apologies he is being urged to give? Being able to lower yourself for the sake of somebody you have wronged is definitely a measure of self-esteem. The issue is the motivation behind it. Are you doing it because you feel that you can't survive without the person or because you understand that the other person has been hurt and you want to restore the relationship? Personally I think that his apology should at least have been enough to prevent her from calling her people, even if she would still be frosty with him around the house. Calling her family and packing out was the overreaction here and not refusing to accept the apology. In any situation the injured party is free to take their time to evaluate their feelings before accepting or rejecting an apology, within reason |
RisenPhoenix:Hmm...so you can refuse to apologise after a first apology doesnt work Is that not a tad unrealistic?Sometimes an apology is like a chisel and the person's heart is like an apple trapped in a block of ice...so the repeated apology will keep chipping away at the ice until you reach what you want The problem was not refusing to accept the repeated begging. Apologising or kneeling for somebody repeatedly doesnt mean that youve given up on your self-respect. It actually takes high self-esteem to be able to do that The problem is calling her family into the matter when she instigated the beating in the first place. Are you objecting to the fact that he begged her and she's not responding or that people are telling him to also beg his in-laws? I read your comments but I dont understand |
BRATISLAVA:He didnt beat her for "questioning where he was at 2AM". He didnt beat her for "voicing an opinion". He didnt beat her for exercising her "fundamental human rights". He beat her, in an impulsive fit of irritation, for getting in his face when he already told her to leave him alone. If things were the other way around I would still be saying the same thing. The issue is not the 2AM again, the issue is the act of harassing somebody who is already trying to avoid you. You dont have any right to encroach on somebodys personal space and scream into their ears, no matter how angry you are. You dont! Its also a "fundamental human right" to live without harassment, do you know that? The moment you do that, you have forfeited some part of your moral high ground. You keep misunderstanding the term "level the playing field" crackhaus:Level the playing field is using a verb whilst youre taking it as a level playing field which is a noun. The person you quoted already stated that he wasnt trying to equate violence and nagging, but youre still asking if theyre the same. Physical violence is not "level" with nagging. But in an attempt to make things fairer, which is what "level the playing field" means, you must take into account the provocation that led to the assault. Even if he were to go to jail, due to provocation the sentence he would receive would be less than the sentence he would receive if he had just entered the house and started beating her up. And that "split lip" stuff is just an emotive statement because if you slap somebody on their mouth, their lip will hit their teeth and split. If you slap with the same level of force on their cheek, they wont necessarily bleed will they ![]() So that she's bleeding or not bleeding isnt even the point here because we dont know what the damage is until we see a photograph and get a medical report. Nigerians or no Nigerians, what youre saying is just not fair. |
BRATISLAVA:Attempting to level the playing field is not the same as stating that 2 things are on a level playing field. He is right; if OP would sign anything then she should also sign not to bully him and then he should sign again not to come back back late and then she should sign not to call her parents over nonsense. Na sign dem go con sign o |
futurism:Hm. Okay o The only one I have heard a lot is that they are too diabolical...this one youre saying I am not sure |
Etinosa1234:Excuse this interruption but I have come across the family greeting stuff before and I am curious. What is the reason for it? And I thought it was only for royal families in Beninland and not everybody |
futurism:Wow But are you sure all this is not some spiritual issue? You see this pattern in other Bini families as well? |
AntiChristian:Hahaha Yes oh, you definitely dont deserve to respond to me since you are too mentally deficient to do so.Au revoir! |
King44:Phew! I just cant understand that guy at all |
It is a lovely story...makes me consider... The only thing they did wrong was disrespect the woman and call her names. That part was looking down on her Discouraging their friend from marrying a prostitute was not looking down on her. But their destinies became entwined because if youre ready to sleep with prostitutes then by rights they should be good enough to marry. Water finds its level The reason that they were in that predicament in the first place was that they were parochial and small-minded with low ambitions, choosing to spend their money on unworthy pursuits. And another point in this story is the element of dehumanisation ... being a prostitute didnt stop her from being an intelligent, resourceful and engaging person, which is actually what helped her to marry that guy and work those contracts. She was more versatile and forward-thinking than they were, and she commanded more respect (by refusing to be treated poorly in the first instance when he neglected to tell her that he had room-mates) If they were serious with their lives after graduating they would still have made it to Australia or wherever without having to rely on all of that. But all in all it was an cool story to read...I often wonder about the spiritual connotations of prostitution...this profession appears a lot in the Bible for various reasons...so much tends to rely on them....they carry a lot of heavy symbolism... |
24kmagic: |
The guy is not even going to take any advice here, I think he just needs encouragement. I just hope the intoxicating nature of their love can withstand whatever package genetics decides to send their way. Happy married life, Sir |
Lol you people are here giving advice, meanwhile, pikin don enter ![]() |
AntiChristian:Lol ignorant illiterate! Astaghfirullah! |
AntiChristian: Im glad that my post pricked your conscience because you are one of the main ILLITERATES on this thread! |
Rashduct4luv:Hahahaha you are a troll dude! A serious Muslim could never say something as weak and stupid as what you wrote up there! Even the hard-core anti-Christian ones! I am genuinely surprised; I expected to see threads full of claims and counter-claims. I used to attend those Islamic talks at university and they were always very interesting. You people only care when somebody comes to insult you in your thread but are not interested in actual discourse. What a pity! Maybe I could have learned something Sabah il-ward w yasmeen! |
Rashduct4luv:This comment section is filled with trolls and illiterates who make comments without any basis or critical thinking whatsoever. The only monickers I have seen in "Islam for Muslims" who are capable of giving a straight answer are Organs and Iamstrange The rest of you dont have any idea of what you are saying. See the comment I just quoted here now; does it make sense I dont know a single Muslim who would actually say something as stupid as that in an intellectual discussion with a Christian.I dont understand; many Muslims tend to love debating and going over the finer points of Islamic doctrine. Where are all those people who actually write interesting stuff I am not seeing anyA whole front page topic about marriage, which you people say is half of your deen and you couldnt quote a single piece of scripture or write something substantial? So none of you do "Khutbah"? Or Dawah? Why are you people so docile? I have never known you to act like this. |
godbless120:Are you okay? I dont get it, you dont understand English or what ![]() I keep asking you; how do you know the girl told them exactly what happened? When we can clearly see from the OP that the woman is totally irrational? How do you know what the parents think until they call OP to confront him? |
godbless120:Lol I am just laughing into my pillow...what are you summoning Somebody is potentially being beaten to a pulp and you're in your house talking about summoning. Do you know what the woman cried and cried on the phone to the parents to make them act that way? This must be the same attitude that allowed that Onicha market to burn down when Anambra state has a fire service because I truly dont understand what on earth you are writing. |
godbless120:Hahahaha now I know you are totally lost! Wetin consign feminism wey pesin wan beat me scatter So according to you, because domestic violence victims "mostly" refuse to speak out in public, they should ALL zip up until theyre totally finished so that you can feel better? i dont understand what youre typing oooo Youre just writing irrelevancies. Somebody don marry since youre talking of dating. Of what use is that observation now if somebody is truly about to die? So you can actually leave your daughter where shes screaming and call her husband to confirm that he beat her up before you intervene? You are a terrible fellow |
godbless120:Hahaha please dont argue with me o! Just leave me to my problem Responsible parent! I guess you can leave your child in the presence of those 2 wild cats they killed yesterday as far as they dont scratch her too much smh And I cant understand the analogy you have written there o, anything football is wasted on me |
godbless120:Lol you will call the home with the husband's knowledge so that he can beat her up more abi! Please dont come here to tell us when you kill your daughter o! You obviously dont understand how domestic abuse works. If somebody is truly in danger the last thing you should do is alert their spouse of your presence before he/she gets even more angry and finishes the person. The fact that its the first time is more reason why they jumped up...next time they would know that she is not serious. Responsible parent like you would leave their daughter in the hands of an abuser just to prove a point or what hahahaIf I called my parents and mentioned anything "beating" they would even grow wings and fly to wherever I am to pick me, which is the more reason why I would never open my mouth to yarn this kind of story because I know that I would just be wasting everybodys time. Last reply indeed! Uru ese! |
dannyla:Just passing my eye over THIS SINGLE STATEMENT is what is making me comment. YOU BETTER RUN FOR YOUR FREAKING LIFE ONCE ANYBODY TELLS YOU THAT O! RUN! THAT STATEMENT RUINS LIVES, DONT MIND THE NONSENSE PEOPLE TELLING YOU THAT! |
godbless120:Yes na...abi I should leave her there for the dude to finish her Do you know what the word "beat" means? It could mean so many things depending on how you describe it.Do you even realise what youre writing? So what if you leave her there and next you hear that she's dead ![]() |
godbless120:Yes and I keep saying to you that the lady was clearly already lamenting and making a commotion which is why the mother rushed over to collect her. WE know that its a "small misunderstanding" but we dont know what the woman told her parents; I dont know why this fact is so difficult for you to grasp. |
godbless120:Ive answered that already and I picked up on it because the OP will be sitting in the silence of his empty house reading all these comments and I want him to understand that what you're writing here is totally illogical. Before he now starts suspecting his in-laws over nothing and getting agitated. The fault is with the girl and not her family UNTIL their behaviour proves otherwise. What you are writing here is nothing but unnecessary and baseless speculation. |
godbless120: Even when you suspect the woman may be in danger That's a very ridiculous position, with all due respect Sir Your daughter can't be screaming that she has been beaten and you will leave her there except you don't have a conscience |
godbless120:Exactly what I'm saying...how can you judge that the mother in law must be involved when the OP clearly explained that the woman was lamenting and crying from when he got home ![]() I don't understand where that kind of paranoid speculation can be coming from when the woman had already totally lost it since. The mother-in-law just turned up thinking it was an emergency...imagine your daughter calling you in the small hours of the night that she's been beaten until she bled? That's how the thing will be sounding to the mother so I don't see how the girls family is at fault here. This is an emergency and a crisis period so they had to withdraw their daughter according to the information that she gave to them...how will you expect them to be discussing, advising and mediating case in the middle of the night when everything is still hot? That's like telling Atiku to bring out all his grievances on the night Buhari won the election. Is it not supposed to be after the dust has settled before somebody collapses? Or you want them to leave her there?? I don't understand o |
godbless120:The bolded is the problem with what you wrote...from what the OP replied the woman has been messing up since...what I'm telling you is that you can't blame that on her family or say that it was a plan blah blah. That's just a speculation. You can't blame somebody's irrational behaviour on their mother who is not even around except of the OP tells us something that suggests that. How can it be a plan when they already told us that the woman locked herself inside the room, holding her face and crying She was already in the clouds by that point so who knows what she cried to her mum on the phone?I expect the lady's mum to do the right thing and call the OP to know what happened, until then we don't know what her mother's opinion is |
omoharry:Yes, it would have been better if they could have found a better solution than slaughtering them. I don't think there was any need for that sha |
1Sharon:Yes, you have a point there. Hopefully we can move on from these beliefs until we just see them as harmless superstitions That's why it was important that somebody mentioned Harry Potter...that book could have been banned in the UK if not that they had already stopped being afraid of such things and begun to see them as entertainment So hopefully we can get to that stage |
godbless120:You can't conclude that she's from a bad home; you don't know what she must have been screaming and crying to them over the phone. So if your daughter calls you by 2AM in a state of distress complaining that she has been beaten you won't fly down there and get her ![]() The only thing is that the mother should have called him by now or gone down to the house to enquire on what happened or to set up a meeting. That's if she's a responsible mother oh |
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Is that not a tad unrealistic?
Yes oh, you definitely dont deserve to respond to me since you are too mentally deficient to do so.