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Christianity Etc › Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by obailala(m):
UbanmeUdie:
shocked



My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.


And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O

The issue isnt whether tithing is good or not; of course going by the principles of giving, givers get blessed (irrespective of religion) and givers dont lack - it is a principle! But the main issue under debate is whether tithing is a mandatory command by God to new covenant Gentile Christians just as it was a mandatory law made to Jews in the old.

To address your point about tithing existing before the Law, the tithe (not titheS) paid by Abraham and the tithes paid by Jacob were very different from the tithing laws made under Moses. Firstly, Abraham tithed only once, it was never recorded as a regular act and most importantly, he did so voluntarily, out of love and not due to any mandatory law from God (TRUE or FALSE?). Secondly, Jacob also tithed voluntarily (TRUE or FALSE?).

So ultimately, if the church today claims a true believer must tithe regularly so as not to rob God or attract curses or incur His wrath, then it is obvious the modern day church has built its tithing principle on the old laws of Moses (Malachi 3) and certainly not in the order of tithing of Abraham (TRUE or FALSE?).

Regarding your examples on fornication, lying etc, you obviously confuse 'the Laws' from the commandments. Of course those things you mention fall under the commandments, and Jesus and the apostles (under the Holy Spirit) clearly still reiterated those commandments till forever. But understanding how the Mosaic laws were a great burden to the people, Jesus constantly rebuked the Pharisees (religious extremists) for burdening the people with keeping to unimportant components of the law; in order to prove this, do you agree Jesus actually broke the law when he healed the sick on the Sabbath?...

But today, it seems the modern day church are now like the Pharisees of old who Jesus rebuked for tormenting believers with the curse of the law (i.e. you are robbing God and are under a curse if you dont pay tithes regularly). The church of today still burdens believers with this 'Curse of the Law' despite the fact that Jesus has completely saved us from that curse (Gal 3:13).

It's always ridiculous when believers today still make reference to the Mosaic Laws and argue of their validity till date. People who make this argument are obviously ignorant of the full contents of that law; many who claim the laws are still valid till date do not know that they already violate it when they shave their side beards or wear a simple jeans trouser and a cotton shirt/blouse. But of the numerous components of that law, you hold on only to tithing and claim the laws are still valid, even to Gentile Christians?
Politics › Re: 2018 World Cup: Ex Vice President Atiku Reacts To The Draw In Russia by obailala(m): 12:15am On Dec 03, 2017
NOETHNICITY:
All the politicians think Nigerians are foooools.

if not why did atiku suddenly turn humble?

simply because election is approaching.

Why hasn't he been like this all this while?
But Atiku has ALWAYS been like this..
Christianity Etc › Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by obailala(m): 11:29pm On Dec 02, 2017
chisco82:
Please can you support the bolded with scriptural backup Or did you just assume that?
Gal 3:13 - Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law. The curses mentioned in the old testament which comes with non-tithing (e.g. the tag of robbing God) were parts of the consequences of not keeping to the laws. If Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, how come believers (even non-Jewish/Gentile believers) in 2017 are still being threatened with Malachi 3?

The fact of the matter is that it is next to IMPOSSIBLE for anyone in 2017 to keep to the harsh requirements of the Mosaic laws. The religious 'extremists' at a time, i.e. the Pharisees, kept tormenting people for being unable to keep the laws to the letter, and Jesus constantly rebuked them for this... Jesus rebuked them for holding and pressing onto what He termed 'the unimportant components of the law' (i.e. tithing). Jesus also went out of his way to prove his point by healing the sick on a sabbath to the chagrin of the pharisees. But here we are today in 2017, Gentile believers who were never even subject to the LAW are are now being threatened/blackmailed with 'curses of the law' if they dont bring 10% of their earnings to a particular church.

(Just noticed I didnt push the 'send' button on this response a week ago)
Politics › Re: Why Buhari Was ‘Banned’ From Entering U.S. For 15 Years — Atiku by obailala(m):
Atiku should be wary of playing this manner of mudslinging politics. This is exactly the sort of shallow-minded politics that sent the fisherman back to Otuoke; desperately trying to expose the flaws of your opponents instead of selling your skills, achievements and manifesto.
Politics › Re: Nasir El-Rufai's Thought On Buhari And Babangida's Age In 2010 by obailala(m): 3:34pm On Dec 01, 2017
Till date, no reasonable youth has still declared interest to run for presidency, yet the so called youths are dwelling in Facebook and Nairaland insulting Rufai for choosing an old man in an election between 2 old men.
Family › Re: Woman In Adamawa Sees Husband's Romantic Chat With Another Lady On Facebook by obailala(m): 12:43pm On Dec 01, 2017
Cunny man die, cunny woman bury am grin grin
Business › Re: Political Interference In CBN Operations Led To Recession – Moghalu by obailala(m): 11:04am On Dec 01, 2017
[quote author=AishaBuhari post=62877673][/quote]Sorry I'm not joining you down there..
Business › Re: Political Interference In CBN Operations Led To Recession – Moghalu by obailala(m): 10:03am On Dec 01, 2017
AishaBuhari:
Zombies (Obailala, GavelSlam & Co) were made to believe that Nigeria was outta recession!

Zombies were also made to believe THAT PDP plunged the economy into recession!

Zombies are programmed to believe whatever is been presented before them!
Your Pa!...

Go ye into your mud and wail alone!
Politics › Re: "Restructuring My Foot! To Hell With Restructuring", Governor Shettima by obailala(m): 9:08am On Dec 01, 2017
Bravo123:
Governor Kashim Shettima of Bornu state on Thursday stirred controversy when he described the recent clamour for restructuring of the country as a “madness” that can be cured by good governance.

Many Nigerians have demanded, following heightening tensions between ethnic nationalities restructuring of the country of the country as a way of resolving many of the numerous challenges facing the country.

But in dismissing such fears, the governor said, ‘Restructuring my foot! To hell with restructuring’.
“Let us improve on governance, let us work for the people, invest in education, create jobs for our people, this madness will stop.”

Read more https://alabingo.com/2017/12/restructuring-foot-hell-restructuring-gov-shetima-slams-restructure-advocates/
Nothing else was expected of a lazy governor of a parasitic state which is one of the largest beneficiaries of the current feeding-bottle system.
Business › Re: OPEC Pegs Nigeria’s Oil Output At 1.8 Million Bpd by obailala(m): 8:58am On Dec 01, 2017
naijaboy756:
Buhari, Adeosun and other Harvard voodoo/recession economists budgeted on 2.3MBPD
The budget was prepared BEFORE this OPEC decision.
Politics › Re: Governor Ayade Presents N1.3trn Budget For 2018 by obailala(m): 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2017
Chukazu:
It was not a mistake...but it was certainly a joke! cheesy
Professor Ayade I heard, is a professor in biology and chemistry. So I guess he knows exactly what he's talking of when he says kinematic crystallization grin
Politics › Re: Governor Ayade Presents N1.3trn Budget For 2018 by obailala(m): 4:22pm On Nov 30, 2017
When I saw 1.3Trillion, I first thought it was a mistake, not until I saw the title of the budget - Kinetic Crystallization! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Rains Curses On Another Lady For Not Believing Her Pastor's Miracle.Photos by obailala(m): 12:31pm On Nov 30, 2017
sKeetz:
But the woman could be right though.

I've seen someone who had been diagnosed with brain cancer get healed. When he went back to the hospital for checkup, the doctors were astonished. A lot of things happen in this world which seems impossible to human brain but possible to God.

I believe in God but I don't believe in Religion.
The point isnt whether miracles are real or not, the point is how deeply hypnotized and brainwashed the girl who was spreading the testimony is. Imagine the kind of unprintable words a so called 'believer' used on the other lady all because the other lady doubted her pastor's miracle?... Such a lady first and foremost isn't a christian, she's just a gullible follower of a pastor. Secondly, a lady of such disposition could actually physically attack the other lady if she was nearby.

Sadly these sort of followers are very numerous in Nigeria today, just visit the facebook page of big pastors or ministries and see the sort of words the followers use on people who criticise their spiritual leaders.
Politics › Re: Does Shouting During Prayers Guarantee Quick Answer? by obailala(m): 12:23am On Nov 30, 2017
Shouting or whispering, God hears it all. But then, even when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, he did so with a very loud call (John 11:43).
Celebrities › Re: Eldee On Slavery In Libya: Those With House Helps Are Also Involved In Slavery by obailala(m): 4:34pm On Nov 29, 2017
I concur with Eldee 100% ... Slavery isnt only when a different race exploits black men.

When the black man exploits his fellow black man, thats also pure slavery; and many of us are either guilty as charged, or have been involved in environments where such domestic slavery is practiced.
Celebrities › Re: Adesua Etomi's Nude Photo & Video Leak By Banky W, A Huge Fake by obailala(m):
EnigmaticEnigma:
Compare the arm sizes of both pics and tell me you don't see a huge difference.

What i am trying to wrap my head around though, is who did the photoshop and what they stand to gain
Chaii!... It's always very amusing when people claiming to be smart end up ridiculing their touted intelligence in public. Since some people learnt the word 'photoshop', everything to them (including the head on their shoulders grin ) must be photoshop; even chidinma of the cucumber fame claimed her VIDEO was photoshopped. grin

@Op or whoever it is that did this funny analysis, are you aware the screec shot came from a video?.. And being a video, 2 different people could take a screen grab at 2 different instances?
Politics › Re: Buhari Is Silent Over Libya Slave Trade Cuz Those Sold Are Mostly Igbos - FFK by obailala(m): 11:06am On Nov 29, 2017
Imbecilic political losers like FFK always feel a compulsion to turn every issue to politics; specifically tribal and religious politics.

How I wish PDP would make FFK their campaign manager again in 2019.
Politics › Re: UK Set To Return $900m Alamieyeseigha’s Loot To Bayelsa by obailala(m): 11:02am On Nov 29, 2017
$900million! Is that even possible? shocked IF true, them Dickson must be dancing 'one-corner' at the moment.
Celebrities › Re: Smaranda Olarinde Kills 4 Snakes In Her Bathroom (Daddy Freeze Mother) by obailala(m): 9:56am On Nov 29, 2017
Paulosky1900:
who annointed them servants?
as i can see now..people like u with this ur mentality are the ones making this our country go backwards,u are in their boundage..JESUS SAID IF U DO GOOD TO ANY OF THOSE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT U ARE DOING IT TO GOD HIMSELF.....mind u when shouting its a lie because its nt my word its GODS WORD AND U JUST CALLED GOD A LIAR.
Lol..
Politics › Re: 14 New Judges Recommended For Fed Court Of Appeal, None From S’east (full List) by obailala(m): 11:02pm On Nov 28, 2017
nnokwa042:
Igbo people never say anything u don dey defend buhari grin like they say guilty conscience fears no accusation ,so northerners who re using grin quota system are more educated than the Igbo's?
But shebi u know say that guy no mention any tribe?... grin
U guys are both the same, na guilt conscience dey worry una two. cheesy
Celebrities › Re: Smaranda Olarinde Kills 4 Snakes In Her Bathroom (Daddy Freeze Mother) by obailala(m):
Paulosky1900:
but not only to pastors...if you help the needy,orphans,prisoners and the widows....by doing so u are paying ur tithe to GOD also.
Na lie oo... according to Nigeria's 'superior' form of Christianity, you give to God only when you give to God's annointed servants (irrespective of how wealthy the person is).
Celebrities › Re: Smaranda Olarinde Kills 4 Snakes In Her Bathroom (Daddy Freeze Mother) by obailala(m): 10:24pm On Nov 28, 2017
RotrMezie:
Daddy Freeze is Anti - Christianity.
I think he's more 'anti-mumu-religiousness'
Politics › Re: FG: We Will Sell Power Plants, Houses To Fund Budget.. by obailala(m): 9:28am On Nov 28, 2017
Adekdammy:
There is not wrong in selling some assets lile the national theatre , in the hands of a good investor, the pride of national theatre would be restored and perhaps compete with muson centre but my challenge with this government is that they can't be trusted, why tell us budget will be financed with recovered loots and turn around to tell us you need to sell assets and borrow, it's either this govt acts before they think or the government is just too big for them to handle.
Sometimes one wonders whether people just intentionally put logic and objectivity aside when it comes to making meaningful criticism of govt activities. Several people keep shouting 'recovered funds! recovered funds' but the first real question a smart person should ask is, "How much has really been recovered and what percentage of the budget deficit can it cover?"

Here's a link by the other dude above who's shouting 'recovered funds'
http://punchng.com/fg-finance-2017-proposed-budget-n250bn-recovered-loots/

Now that link stated that the fg planned to fund the 2017 budget with n258bn, out of which only N72bn had already been recovered as at the time the statement was made (Dec 2016). So the question is, how exactly is N72bn or even n258bn supposed to finance a budget of over n6trillion and do you still think your argument on 'recovered funds' still makes sense?
Politics › Re: FG: We Will Sell Power Plants, Houses To Fund Budget.. by obailala(m): 9:18am On Nov 28, 2017
Firefire:
Fellow Nigerians,

This current administration told Nigerians that 2017 budget will be funded with the 'recovered loots'

Premium Times - "We will use ‘recovered loots’ to finance 2017 budget – Buhari" https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/245675-will-use-recovered-loots-finance-2017-budget-buhari.html

Punch - "FG to fund 2017 budget with N258bn recovered loots" http://punchng.com/fg-finance-2017-proposed-budget-n250bn-recovered-loots/

Now the same known professional liars and career rogues now planning to auction our common wealth to fund same budget, while re-looting the covered loots.

This is apart from the various foreign loans for same budget funding, mind you the global price of crude oil has gone beyond the budget benchmark.

Nigerians don't yet understand the magnitude of corruption going on in this administration. Am afraid, before you know, it will be too late.

APC, Party of professional liars and career rogues.
Sometimes one just wonders how soooo many Nigerians have sense, but just can't put it to use. Go back up there and read what you wrote. Recovered funds = N250bn, yet you still ask so seriously why N250bn cannot fully fund a budget where recurrent expenditure alone is almost N4trillion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Reacts To Born Again Lady Using Knife To Cut Her Tattooed Hand by obailala(m): 8:36am On Nov 28, 2017
chukxie:
Most this guy react to every topic relating to Christianity ?
nifemi25:
Why is this man always against anything that consign Christianity
What has self mutilation got to do with Christianity?...

Just the way you guys have the right to drop yoir opinions on this thread, are you guys saying Freeze as a private individual doesnt have the right to speak against some obvious 'false doctrine' or even outrightly silly acts like what the lady is doing?

What exactly is Christ-like about burning your skin with a pressing iron and now using a knife for self mutilation? . For the lady to actually cut-off her own body, God knows what she would do if she falls into the arms of any dubious prophet. She needs mental evaluation.
Politics › Re: Ohanaeze Reacts To Reinstatement Of Police Officer That Killed 6 Igbo Traders by obailala(m): 1:07am On Nov 28, 2017
andyanders:
This government has displayed to the whole world that if you are a Northerner and commits any offense, you are not guilty.

I believed that this government came for a change and from what the ruling party has displayed,they are the worst government EVER in the history of Nigeria.

Buhari has lost it and I regretted EVER believing in him.APC is just a scam.
What does this case have to do with buhari?... Must everything just be about an obsession for Buhari buhari and Buhari?
Politics › Re: Ohanaeze Reacts To Reinstatement Of Police Officer That Killed 6 Igbo Traders by obailala(m): 1:05am On Nov 28, 2017
SalamRushdie:
Ohaneze should shut up and take a sit , what do they expect when they kept mum all tje while Buhari kept practising Nepotism from the onset , is it now that Buhari has established is Nepotism they want to complain
What exactly does this case even have to do with buhari?
Crime › Re: Ugandan Man Returns Music Items He Stole After Native Doctor Sent Bees (Graphic) by obailala(m): 12:16am On Nov 28, 2017
tintingz:
Pure magical tricks.

The bees are trained, it's called Hymenoptera training, bees and wasps are intelligent, they use odour and other stuffs to train them.

Hymenoptera training:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenoptera_training

Saying this to be supernatural things is lame, only rural and semi-developed area with backward people will believe this to be juju.

Here's civilized developed country training bees to detect drugs.

Honey bees trained to detect illegal drugs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33195468/honey-bees-trained-to-detect-illegal-drugs

It's not a new thing here and not supernatural.
Juju or science, whatever the case, you just can't help but give it up for the illiterate baba who replicated advanced sciences in his small domestic shrine/kiosk.
Politics › Re: Nigeria’s External Reserve Hits $35b by obailala(m): 9:51pm On Nov 26, 2017
Politics › Re: Nigeria’s External Reserve Hits $35b by obailala(m): 9:03pm On Nov 26, 2017
kindex:
President Muhammdu Buhari assured Nigerians on Saturday that the country’s economy was doing well.The President said apart from saving $500m in the Sovereign Wealth Fund and investing another $500m in the SWF, the country’s external reserve presently stands at $[b]35bn, the highest in the past four years.[/b]According to him, the Federal Government has saved about N18bn within one year after the establishment of an Efficiency Unit under the Federal Ministry of Finance in early 2016 to reduce wastage, plug leakages and foster greater fiscal transparencyThe President  was represented by Vice-President Yemi Osinbajo (SAN),who  stated this on Saturday in Jos, during the graduation of 66 participants in the 2017 Senior Executive Course 39 of the National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies in Kuru.
He said, “For the first time in five years, we saved $500m, and invested another $500m in the Sovereign Wealth Fund. Today, our external reserves stand at $35bn, the highest in the past four years.
Today, we can see light at the end of the tunnel; darkness is giving way to light.”He added that the Presidency stopped the Continue reading here:  https://kindexgist./2017/11/26/nigerias-external-reserve-hits-35b/
$35bn isn't the highest in the last 4 years. As at mid-2014 just before oil prices crashed, the reserve was around $40bn.
Family › Re: 17-Year-Old Boy Buys A Car For His Mother In Lagos. See Reactions (Photo, Video) by obailala(m): 8:55pm On Nov 26, 2017
Alariiwo:
If I talk now, they'll say tribalist.

How will a 17 yrs old boy bring a car home without the mother asking for his source of wealth. Instead she is shinning teeth like a goat.

Only a fool won't see that there is something fishy here. In this present day Nigeria GEJ and his goons ruined.
Only fools jump to quick conclusions. Almost everyone on this thread seems to be so sure the mum isn't aware of what the boy does; even without info, almost everyone seems to have jumped into the conclusion that the boy is into something fishy.
Politics › Re: Borno To Convert Mohammed Yusuf's House Into A Museum by obailala(m): 7:54pm On Nov 26, 2017
What's meant to be in the musuem?

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