Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 11:43am On Feb 26, 2023 |
JagabanBorgu: It's constitutional to bring party agents, I don't see why u are trying to make it a crime now. Ur party can't field càndidàtes in so many states, that's structure. Yes its constitutional because the constitution recognises that some people could be criminally minded and want to manipulate results. The constitution encourages party to have witnessing agents to prevent manipulation of any kind against their results. But unfortunately in Nigeria, the party agents, in connivance with electoral officers, police and military, are the principal culprits who manipulate the results. That's why the PDAPC brags about having agents everywhere and taunts smaller parties like LP for not having sufficient agents. It's all about manipulation and criminality. |
Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 11:38am On Feb 26, 2023 |
LordAdam16: If an intruder breaks into your house at night, you don't walk down the stairs to converse with him. You pick a weapon for the safety of your family.
PDP and APC are working their magic in their strongholds currently, while you're whining on the Internet. If you can't help yourself to win an election against undemocratic forces, how do you intend to help those who you made fantastic, unobtainable promises to.
In 2015, you were indifferent when the Kano REC and his family were burned to death, so that Buhari could defeat the incumbent. Obi relied on PDP structure in 2019 to get votes in the North.
Now, you have a problem with structure of criminality when it serves your narrative. All of you are not ready. I only pity the average folks who were hoodwinked to believe your postulations of grandeur that Obi's win was inevitable.
-Lord You're still saying the same thing - It's a structure of criminality! Keep applauding criminality and barbarism simply because you think it favours you. |
Politics › Re: Why Using Thugs If You Truly Have Structure – Falz Questions APC by obailala(m): 11:29am On Feb 26, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 11:24am On Feb 26, 2023 |
JagabanBorgu: Ok, the electoral acts are wrong now because ur càndidàte couldn't provide agents for 2/3 of polling units acróss the country, u didn't talk about the càndidàtes they don't have to feature, I guess In a sane country, having càndidàtes on the ballot is poor too. Not sure I comprehend what you're trying to say. Whoever mentioned anything about an electoral act and what does that have to do with your 'criminal structured' party rigging the election in broad day light? |
Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 11:22am On Feb 26, 2023 |
LordAdam16: It is a problem the world over. Even in the US, in 2020, in Georgia, party poll watchers were ushered out of the collation center, then the windows were barricaded. And hours later Biden pulled ahead surprisingly.
The default nature of humans is to do whatever is possible to get their way. If they have to cut corners, they will. That is why the US has 100+ bases, 10+ aircraft carriers sailing the oceans, and all that. Tomorrow if we act stubbornly and go against one of their red lines, they'll cook up a pretext and take another swing at gun-barrel diplomacy.
Tinubu has been working towards this for 20 years. You are not going to expect him to entertain "saner clime" noise, when his ambition is well within his grasp. Even if he holds back, the likes of Oluomo who have benefitted humongously from his political capital will act on their own initiative.
The hallmark of civilized societies is being able to whitewash their barbarism. Believing otherwise is naïve. JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and UBS over the past few weeks have been decrying the shady economic data coming out of the US. Do you think the Democrats and Biden care? F*ck no.
Canada arrested, closed bank accounts, and seized donation funds of peaceful protesters with bouncy castles. They're stereotypically the politest people on the planet. Thinking you're going to change this country by getting everyone to hold hands, sing kumbaya, and hum mantras while sitting in a peaceful oasis; is how we consistently these horrible outcomes.
In any case, you wanted Tinubu, so I'm not sure why you're complaining. This is his trademark.
You guys will do f*ck all until 2031, then start complaining about PDP and APC, when things do not go your way. Play the game, then reform it from the inside. That's what Tinubu did in Lagos. Too bad he is an ethnic supremacist.
Obi should have taken the VP offer. If Atiku underperforms, he builds an image of being sidelined like Osinbajo. Then in 2031, he'll repeat Jonathan's 2011 landslide. But patience is a virtue that sounds simple in theory, but hard to practice.
Most of us here are doing fine. But before you know it 8 turns into 16, 16 turns in 24. Next thing you know, you're getting grandkids. And although they don't ask, you'll pretend like you don't feel some way about their Nigerian passports gathering dust while mothers are r*ped in the hinterlands.
-Lord At the end, we all agree that the only structure which the LP doesnt have and which the APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is just a structure of criminality. Summary of all you've said is that this structure of criminality also exists in the US. |
Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 9:46am On Feb 26, 2023 |
JagabanBorgu: But LP never had party agents in thousands upon thousands of polling units, LP don't have càndidàtes to feature in most states of Nigeria, that's the structure, those càndidàtes are what will influence votes in his favor outside the influence of social media. If not for the activities of thugs and compromised INEC and security officials, why exactly should a party not having agents in all polling stations be a problem? ... Just imagine the nonsense happening in Rivers state where OBI is extremely popular and where APC is despised. Even the LP party agents were chased away from collation centres by policemen attached to the governor and compromised INEC officials were made not to upload results and in some instances, results werent even counted infront of voters. In a sane and civilised society, a candidate without 'structure' can win elections as long as they are popular. But in a barbaric society like ours, such a candidate irrespective of how popular he is, still needs to plant agents everywhere to prevent his votes from being tampered with. What a shame! Whether we like it or not, the structure we talk of, the structure which APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is a structure of criminality. |
Politics › Re: Obi Should Start Building LP Structures Even When He Loses by obailala(m): 9:07am On Feb 26, 2023 |
seborrhic: The typical Nigerian politician's mindset and the operating stereotype in Nigeria is that once they lose elections after contesting under a minority party,even if the party does appreciably well and wins some seats,is for them to go quiet till the next general elections,or decamp to the ruling party at the earliest opportunity. The Labour party,primarily because of the dream that Peter obi brought,has done marvellously well in these elections,though it fell short of general victory. LP is likely going to win significant number of seats in the senate and HOR and its presence would also be registered even in areas in the North it didn't do well. That is why it's now incumbent on Obi not to do any of the following: Despair and go quiet politically Decamp to the ruling party or back to the PDP,unless to form a major alliance with it. Allow the LP to become a voiceless,timid opposition,rather than the one that would hold the incoming government of Tinubu to account for its policies.The LP should become the active voice of the Nigerian people,lest the same pains and ignored cries people suffered under the Buhari government persists. Obi should also start to form the structures of the LP using its elected members and ensure or find a strategy that ensures that those that won elections under the party, primarily due to Obi 's influence,don't decamp to the ruling party. He should not become like an Agbaje who only becomes active during Lagos Guber polls or an Atiku for example,who only thinks and plans for the presidency towards the tail end of a government. He should learn from what Tinubu has done and build on it,building structures, alliances,only that his own alliance should be with honest,determined individuals with the same mindset to grow the LP to a formidable force that will give the then ruling party a tougher fight on all fronts,come 2027. The only structure OBI doesnt have is a good network of thugs, corrupt police, corrupt INEC staff, judges, military men etc.... All of these are barbaric structures. The structure Tinubu has is just the network of thugs snatching ballot boxes and disrupting elections around Lagos, Rivers state and others. Also the network of compromised INEC staff who bluntly refused to upload election results with hope of changing numbers overnight and the network of policemen / soldiers who the aid, abet and secure the riggers. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 8:58am On Feb 26, 2023 |
adanny01: I believe you understand my point but you have been running circles around it. Oga I dont understand any point you're making. You've been the one jumping from pillar to post with bizarre interpretations; saying "oppsite of education is not minority" and that "a retired prof living in the village isnt on social media". What exactly does that mean? Oga you arent saying anything; try and define your point. My own point has been simple from the start - OBI is more popular amongst educated folks, which is the reason he wins every online poll. |
Politics › Re: If Obi Fails To Win River State by obailala(m): 11:25pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
Hendrixky: If Obi fails to win river state because of massive rigging being carried out by wike now then wike should forget about his political career
We South South and South East are going to kill his political career OBI will not lose Rivers, lai lai! But the problem with the rigging is that it significantly reduced the block votes OBI is meant to get from the state. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 8:56pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
adanny01: Same here. You asked about those who are educated but are not aligned to Obi and I responded that these people are in the minority; i.e. amongst the educated folks, the majority support OBI but the minority are not for OBI. What exactly is difficult to understand in the above response? What exactly is the point you tried to make by saying "opposite of education is not minority"? Is that what you understood from my response? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 8:44pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
adanny01: What is the opposite of educated? I am sure it's not minority. What exactly is your point? I dont believe my english grammar is too difficult to understand. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Wins Akin Alabi's Polling Unit by obailala(m): 7:15pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
Hehehe... this one choke!!!...  God Abeg oo! May the ordinary Nigerians win over these structured bandits! Amen! |
Politics › Re: Chioma Akpotha Breaks Down In Tears As Thugs Attack Polling Unit In Eti-osa by obailala(m): 2:47pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
Of course this is the only way the idiots hope to win elections, through mindless violence, intimidstion and disruptions. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 4:00pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
adanny01: My original comment had to do with outcomes of online polls Vs the real election.
You wrote this
What does this mean really? Looks like Obi is associated with educated Nigerians as you say. It's is also safe to say Educated people are aligned to Obi. What about those who are educated but are not aligned to Obi? What are they? They are a minority. If only educated Nigerians were to vote in the election, OBI would win with an extremely wide margin. |
Politics › Re: Explosions Shatter Homes, Businesses Of Atiku’s Supporters In Rivers by obailala(m): 1:15pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
shizzle1: you were also one if those that cheered him when he invited army to kill innocent Igbos in obigbo 2 years ago, not so? Are you okay? Obailala cheering the murder of innocent people? are you okay? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 1:11pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
adanny01: What are you trying to say?
Is a retired professor who has relocated to his village and has no internet connection an illiterate?
In your own sense, every Nigerian who is educated must vote Obi and the illiterates vote for Atuku, Tinubu, Kwankwaso etc? How did you get that logic and where did you place yourself?
Are you saying those Tinubu supporters who are educated are actually illiterates? How did you arrive at these extreme conclusions from what I wrote? So if I say "the majority of people in rural areas are uneducated", how on Earth did you interprete that to mean "everybody in rural areas, including the retired prof, are illiterates"? ...Obviously, not every one who is educated wants OBI and not every illiterate wants APC/PDP; I dont want to believe my English grammar was really that complex and misleading. The point I made was simply - the majority of people on social media are educated (True or False?), and this largely includes the majority of people who get to vote in all these online polls (that is not to say there arent educated people who don't use social media). With OBI always winning every single online poll with a brutally wide margin, it indicates something; that OBI is the most popular candidate amongst educated Nigerians. Again, that is not to say there arent educated people who want the other candidates. |
Politics › Re: Explosions Shatter Homes, Businesses Of Atiku’s Supporters In Rivers by obailala(m): 10:49am On Feb 24, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: 2023 Presidential Election: Which Of These Candidates Would You Vote For? by obailala(m): 8:37am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Whats the point of all these repeated polls when we already know who the winner will be? |
Politics › Re: Explosions Shatter Homes, Businesses Of Atiku’s Supporters In Rivers by obailala(m): 8:34am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Not too long ago when Wike used this same brutish tactics to murder and terrorise Amaechi and APC supporters in Rivers state; a lot of people hailed him declaring that "PDP is Rivers and Rivers is PDP". I pray the beast doesnt succeed again. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Can't Win Presidential Election - Labour Party State Chairmen by obailala(m): 10:48pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
So because they werent given money, because dem no see shishii, they've unanimously declared OBI wouldn't win? Good riddance to the hungry bunch! |
Politics › Re: Boy Stands In Front Of Tinubu's Convoy, Gets Pushed Away (Video) by obailala(m): 5:36pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
Nigerians have a very simple choice before them; a choice between good and evil!
The result of the Saturday election will prove who we really are as a people... |
Sports › Re: Sowore Attacks Datti For Bowing To Greet Tinubu And Calling Him Uncle .. by obailala(m): 12:20pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: Reno Omokri: Nigeria Will Suffer Under The Obidients Presidency by obailala(m): 8:15pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: I Am Now Fully Convinced That Peter Obi Is Working For Tinubu by obailala(m): 8:12pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sukkot: And so there has been this coalition right from the start that power must come down to the south but yet in that agreement is still distrust of certain factions of the northern oligarchy which was further emphasised when PDP refused to give the igbo man the running seat for the presidency and instead gave it to the Fulani man Atiku and this single move stoked the fears that the northern oligarchs are not going to honour this rotation to the south mantra and so ever the master strategist, the Jagaban made the move to counter the election of Atiku for the PDP by reaching out to the disgruntled peter obi and telling him we can bring the power to the south but you will have to be a participant and the objective is to halve atikus votes by averting all the igbo vote away from Atiku without which all igbos would vote Atiku and he would easily coast to victory and the power would remain in the north. So Tinubu pulled the strings with the labor party and had them bypass protocol and install obi as their front runner for presidency ( who else could pull off this type of move but the Jagaban himself. No way anyone would listen to obi himself trying to take over labor party, he doesn’t have that kind of clout ) . And so they put heavy media machinery behind obi to promote him as the new igbo messiah and the job was done meticulously and is a success and has succeeded in sucking away all the igbo vote from Atiku and now it is a guarantee that power is coming south. All hail JAGABAN the master strategist and thank you Peter obi for your participation. The job is done Plot twist! And the Jagaban loses in his own game as OBI proves not just to be the Igbo favourite, but also the Nigerian favourite; OBI wins the election and the Jagaban weeps profusely! |
Politics › Re: Volunteers Sorting & Distributing The PVCs Dumped In Bush In Nnewi, Anambra by obailala(m): 6:16pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
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Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 6:10pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Minjim: literacy is subject to personal interpretation.
Are you implying all educated Nigerians are active on Social media ? Obviously, not all educated persons are on social media, but those on social media are more of the educated people (than illiterates or uneducated rural dwellers)... Keep trying to twist the narrative just to create an argument, but I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I mean.... |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 5:27pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Minjim: There's a reason why everyone has one vote That doesnt invalidate the fact that I spoke about you and your candidate relying only on votes from illiterates. |
Politics › Re: Analysis Of All Opinion Polls by obailala(m): 2:40pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
garfield1: Most opinion polls predict an obi victory.the most prominent and reliable are anap/noi and Bantu... Both predicted obi to win se by 80%,ss by 50%,a narrow win or sharing nc with tinubu and a narrow victory for atiku in ne/nw and a 60% win for tinubu in sw....
But if we look at it statistically,it is a tinubu win.ss and se voters turnout is 6 million.average turnout in ne/ ne is 13.5 million.if assuming obi has 4 mil out of 6 million votes in se ss and Tinubu scores 5.5 million out of 13.5 mil in ne nw,he leads obi by 1.5 million.let's assume obi wins nc by 500k,tinubu's lead is down to a million.let us assume obi scores 1 mil in ne nw,they are equal.it will be down to the sw where tinubu will obviously win by at least 2 mil vote margin. In a worst case scenario,obi might have the highest votes and surely fail to get the spread.tinubu will get the spread and second highest votes and will go into a runoff with obi where he will obviously win as the north will vote tinubu even if kwankwaso and atiku endorse obi.
Mynd44 Lalasticlala Obinoscopy Seun Seunmsg Kyase Fergie001 Kahal Naptu2 Kwanza Digitron Vicdom Mymouth Aufbauh Caseless Raumdeuter Passing shot Majole Chrixxx Frowland Famology Where exactly is Atiku in all these your analyses? Funny how most of you BATISTS still havent woken up to smell the coffee - The north is supporting their own; Atiku will likely sweep most of the northern votes even from APC strongholds. Even Buhari himself might be voting Atiku on Saturday. The entire Naira swap policy stinks like a strategy of the northern cabal to deprive Tinubu of votes, to the advantage of Atiku... |
Politics › Re: The Result Of Presidential Poll By Arewa Prof. Sani Wuhil by obailala(m): 1:17pm On Feb 22, 2023*. Modified: 5:42pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
dustmalik: You still don't get it, do you? Any online poll you conduct today, Obi will always win, no matter whose timeline you conduct it.
If you recall correctly, in 2019, Buhari lost all polls, online and offline. In fact, when Buhari was pit against a Stone, the stone won with landslide.
Come Saturday, when votes start to trickle in from all over the country, reality is going to set in.
I expect to be insulted, as is now usual. YEah of course, OBI wins all online polls with a brutal margin because he's unequivocally the most popular candidate amongst educated and enlightened Nigerians. The only reason results can be different in the real election is because the uneducated, unenlightened and unexposed Nigerians (especially rural dwellers) will be voting too in the real elections and this group of people (who can easily be deceived by money or tribal politics) unfortunately make up a large portion of Nigeria's voting population. APC and PDP should be ashamed of themselves for relying solely on the votes of the uneducated sector to win elections; little wonder they work overtime to ensure they sustain poverty and illiteracy. #WeaponisationOfPoverty |
Politics › Re: 'It's Insulting To Come To Lagos By Night Bus, Grow Here, Then Abuse Our State' by obailala(m): 12:06pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
ganisucks: APC Youth Leader Dayo Israel:
This is what the APC youth leader, Dayo Israel, said at a public youth debate. Who is this idiot called Dayo Israel and what does he mean by "our Lagos"? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Nairaland Latest Poll For Atiku, Kwankwaso, Peter Obi And Tinubu (Photos) by obailala(m): 12:03pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Minjim: Social media is mainly for the computer literate There is a difference from being educated and being computer literate. I'm on Social media and I didn't take part in any online poll. Saturday will clear everyone doubt Being educated or computer literate or whatever you call it, the point is that APC and PDP are relying on votes from the uneducated, mostly illiterate rural dwellers to win the coming elections. If the votes from the uneducated rural dwellers are excluded, APC and PDP combined wouldn't even smell up to 25% of total votes cast. And by the way, election one saturday cannot prove or disprove what I said cos everyone (both educated and uneducated) participates in elections. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Support Groups Shun Tinubu Lagos Rally, Collapse Structures For Atiku by obailala(m): 10:38am On Feb 22, 2023 |
Even Buhari himself will be voting Atiku on Saturday! FEAR NORTH! |