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ttalks:
Tonye-t, do you seriously need a memory jog?


Consider this below:

In the old days:-

Principal says at the morning assembly - "Students, it has been observed that you come to the exam hall with your pens to write down your answers to the exam questions but you neglect the most important thing which is to prepare hard by studying for the exam.
That is why, despite the fact that you put down answers in your sheets, you end up failing woefully.
You ought to study hard and properly and also to come with your pens to the exam hall in order to write down correct answers and pass your exams."

In the new days(data age):-

Principal says in his email message to every student - "Students, we are now using computers for your examinations now.
The questions are in the systems and all you are required to do is prepare well for the exams, come to the exam hall without any pens or writing materials as all you would be required to do is click on the correct answers with the mouse of your computer."


Now relate the above to matthew 23:23 Mr. Tonye.

Keynotes/Keywords:
Old days - old covenant/old testament
New days/data age - new covenant/new testament
Pen(s) - Tithe(s)
Studying/preparing - Justice,mercy and faith.


That's all I have for you. try to decipher what i'm driving at 

Can Tonye-tithe find an ancient scroll in Greece that answers this? we hope he is not one of those modern day Pharisee since Jesus was addressing the old "guard", na wa for these prosperity PIMPS and their students oooooooo!

A "Servant leader" has to bling bling now, it's the "new way"

Tonye-tithe and co are like Bernard Madoff  in that they expect you to "invest" some money with them except that these pimps tell you your payment is coming from somewhere else other than what they "took" from others.

It is truly a despicable act to try to profit from the Scriptures after Jesus Christ gave his life for free

Jesus did not "collect" when he came down but somehow "collects" now that he is our high priest? what about LOVE for our neighbors, doing good to others, forgiveness, etc? Is money more important than these? Why did the Scriptures warn us about the love of money?

The LAW was still in effect until Jesus PAID out DEBT in FULL on the CROSS, get it now?

Get behind me SCAMMERS

They dress to kill because they have gullible zombies as members who will hang on to their every word.

Dude!

Jesus is our one and ONLY high PRIEST and we have been released from the LAW through his GRACE.

Tell your "pastors" to get real jobs, it is not like they can't work Monday through Friday like the rest of us, prepare the "Sermon" on Saturday and preach it on Sunday.

No need to try to steal in the name of the Lord (Jah as Max Romeo put it)

princekevo:
A normal excuse for people like you to skip attend churches. Am the temple of God, God lives in me, righteosness is in the heart, God can hear me everywhere.etc.
Forgeting that even Jesus christ himself saw the need to visit the temple of God.Frustrated on what? Preaching the word of God? Listen, the only thing i would never be tired of is preaching his word and the truth. We are not tracing back our history to the 12 tribes isreal. But we are isrealites by adoption, as such we can claim all the promises he promised our father Abraham.
And Mind you, i dont teach what i learnt from any pastor, but from what i learnt directly from the bible, raw and undiluted.

FYI Dude: I worship at a Church regularly and even "work" but won't succumb to fake doctrines, I will give offering and when possible, help out other folks instead of the unholy tithe preaching I sometimes sit through and no one has been "dumb" enough to confront me about this yet. Get your facts right before you start throwing stuff around.

This prince must have forgotten that Temples are the Christians now as opposed to a place of worship under the law. Call these buildings Tabernacle, Temple, Chapel, or whatever you want but God lives in the Christian under Grace and not some man made building, get your stuff right "prince"

May God forgive the fake preachers!

HELL to the NO

@OP, You are on the right track bro and we hope a lot of folks will wake up from this fallacy perpetuated by PIMPING GOMs to finance their lifestyle.

How hilarious is it that anytime tonye-tithe gets beaten down in his own thread about this unholy practice, he goes off to Greece looking for ancient but unjustified scrolls

Jesus Christ fulfilled any requirement of the law for us by his death on the Cross and these PIMPs are only out to deceive the gullible flock that look up to them for guidance, how come I haven't seen any "storehouse" in any Church I've attended? Malachi was addressing the Levites and not gentiles in that famous quote they love so much to make the flock feel guilty and part with their hard earned CASH.
Their days are number because this SCAM must be stopped, LOVE is the greatest of all not MONEY but how would they afford the lifestyle if they preach what is right-freewill offering?

Nice post @Chuckvyl :

These criminal pastors and their cronies just don't get it due to their greed, this topic has been discussed a lot in many threads and they still stick to their guns due to the lack of knowledge among many Christians who get duped continuously with this FAKE doctrine of men (GOMs).

Mr. tithe is probably in Greece now looking for some scrolls to support their scam

I found this story and thought it would be nice to share, a Church in Vermont willing to sell one of their stained glasses to keep the shelter open and also run the Church instead of turning to fake doctrinal fallacies to raise money from the faithful:

http://www.wftv.com/news/21876055/detail.html

tensor777:
^^
Actually my reply was directed at the OP.

Dude sounds like one of those scamming preachers, why would you need OP to answer a question Chukwudi44 just answered?

My belief is that the days of those Scammers are numbered because with the current onslaught by well meaning Christians to see this scam "totally and permanently discredited and abandoned", we will continue to wage war against these infidels in suits who are only interested in fleecing the flock. They (and their cabinet) seem to be the only ones enjoying the "blessing", no wonder most of them are folks who can't get real jobs or jobs that wouldn't give them the kind of lifestyle they can obtain from this scam.


Their days are numbered

Ebitu Ukiwe an Ibo man was married to a Hausa lady I recall.
Let the Ibo folks hash that one out, I liked Ukiwe a lot even as an Officer, no nonsense.

Only folks with REAL LOW SELF ESTEEM will bleach their skins when it's unhealthy to do so. No wonder they banned those creams in the UK but trust Nigerians to find other means, omase ooooo

Nchara:
Thanks. However it goes beyond Anambra; Igbo women are hot generally

Ms Arunma Otteh from Abia State is the current VP of African Development Bank
Nkech Nwogu from Abia is a senator
Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is the boss of Mrs Ezekwesili; she is Delta Igbo married to an Abian

The same Abia doctor that one of your Ibo Nurses and her boyfriend duped to the point of FBI intervention while Madame Ngozi was busy helping Nigeria? You guys need to drop this tribal nonsense.

Mr. tithe,


Tithe is a practice that started in paganism and if you are to practice that, you might as well add the burnt offerings and the others.

Even in our Nigerian culture, ever heard of people sending their first salary or part of it home to be "blessed and enjoyed" by their immediate family? How different is that from your tithes?

Jesus Christ did not die for us so we can still be bound by those practices, it might be better to spend your "research time" on other worthy subjects, get off this gravy train, or better yet, find a real job as only those who somehow benefit from this unholy practice can continue to march the "zombies" to comply or else they're "robbing" God.

Christianity is not about traditions dude, I would like a poll to show what % of those who tithe do it out of belief as opposed to "going with the flow" or "doing the expected".

Jesus Christ is my ADVOCATE and I sincerely don't need an "MOG" or "GOM" to tell me how to serve my master or how to help others. FREE WILL offering is what is expected of us and not the cajoled, scared, shamed tactics that these PIMPS use to fleece the flock, they shall surely answer for this SCAM.

You can't buy God's blessings, good DEEDS and LOVE for others is what Christ and his Apostles preached. It was so important that Christ never paid it, you guys must have taken the place of the Pharisees to continue their practice if you ask me.

8 words:
good this should be done in America and Uk so that we can know our citizens.

Nigerian visa costs $100 in the US, how much more do you want? Know your citizens ke? If anyone wanted to remain a Nigerian, you think they would have gone through the conversion?

What's the problem here? What is so wrong about spending "Weinachten" in your adopted country?

chukwudi44:
@tonye-t

The new year is approaching ,take a new year resolution to stop deceiving innocent people and stealing their money in the name of tithes.

Gbosa! He might need an updated resume to find a job too while he is at it, this scam is about to end mr. Tithe, don't insult us by comparing your self with Jesus Christ

As long as there are people who still can't study their own Bible but rely on others for interpretation and direction, this SCAM will continue. Nigerians and most Africans are conditioned to "respect elders, authority, etc" so even when they are being mislead, they either refuse to acknowledge or deny the existence of the scam.

Our people get screwed double: by the people they elect and by some of the people that they believe can lead them to the promised land, heck, they seem to work together to screw the average man.


Free your self from these PIMPS in suits, trust God only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3UCTNZylms&feature=related



LOL

Some folks are convinced the need to serve ogun, others, sopono/ifa, etc.

Just because you're convinced that a pastor deserves 10% of your earnings doesn't make it right but you do have a right to continue and pay the love-vendor a percentage of your earnings.

God mandates us to love one another, love our neighbor as we love our selves, care for the widows/orphans/strangers among us and not to "outsource" it with 10% of our earnings.

They tell you not to worry about how it is being spent, nonsense!

By their fruits, we are beginning to know them for what they really represent.

A lot of the so called Churches are nothing but investment houses these days in Nigeria and elsewhere, only the poor folks get screwed as they don't get a share of the profits and the "blessings" don't arrive due to their "lack of faith"

Those who have no jobs ought to find one because distorting the Bible to make a few buck might not only be morally wrong but could also be punishable for 120 lashes or more on that great day when our Lord re-appears

I don't look at what others do or are doing, I look at what I can do and be at peace with myself and my God, to each his own. The soul that sinneth shall die is what we all should know and keep in mind.

No need to go on about how some of these so called "Churches" from the outside to the inside has been dedicated to Lucifer and his lieutenants' worship even before they open their yack to ask for money!

"He who have ears, let him hear" You serve God more with your Heart and Soul than you could ever do with money!


His blood shed on the Cross is sufficient for me and my house.

WOW!


A university that didn't allow black and white "mixing" until a few years ago?


You guys kill me with some of your assumptions about folks in far away lands from you!

A nation of IDIOTS will be led by the brightest IDIOT among them, go figure why the place is the way it is.

Emeka,


I really don't care who becomes president next time out but if you are looking for an Ibo man to become president, get to work as I don't think along tribal lines or think that when someone from my tribe gets a shot, everything will be just fine-that's delusional.

I just gave my 2 cents which is free, I have no personal interest in who runs that place.

Emeka, right back at you!
Quote me again:

It won't happen because you guys won't even be able to agree if an Onitsha man is Ibo enough or Enugu can "represent" Iboland, etc.

You already had your chance and BLEW it.


I don't care who is president in that Country if you ask me, my only requirement is that they're competent and unless you want to tell me that they have to be Ibo to be competent, shut your trap

Eziachi:
Can you reconcile the two statements you made above, it doesn't make sense.
Because somebody had blew their chance according to your great wisdom and then you turned 360 degress wanting competent a leader, no matter where he/she comes from. Does that include those you said had blew it.
Kids with a lot to drink.

Seems like you are the one who's been drinking dude! Anyone looking for a tribal angle to Nigeria's problems will remain a tribalist. There were two parts to that in case you didn't notice, first that they blew their chance followed by my lack of interest in the tribe that will produce the next President.
Don't sit in your little corner and pick holes that don't exist, the very reason we got here can't take us beyond here. Are there no Ibos among those currently running the country? Are they all clean because they are Ibos? come on dude, get a grip!

Abraham paid 10% tithe to the king of Salem from the spoils of war and not from his own personal wealth. You pointed out (rightly) in an earlier post that it was "the custom" of the people then to pay 10% as "sara" or whatever name one might call it, the Levites were required to pay 10% to the Priests of the Temple from the tithes they collected and the rest was used for "administration" and other services that were required to run the "government" then and that is in fact where our modern system of banking and government comes from if you study your Bible history very well to the point of it being "corrupted" forcing Jesus Christ to chase them out of the Temple for " turning my Father's house into a den of thieves"

Abraham's and the Levite tithes are different and unrelated!

Are Christians expected to follow "customs" that have no Scriptural bases?
Did our Lord Jesus Christ follow "customs" while he did his work?
Was there any mention of tithes that were different from produce, livestock, spices, etc?
Did the king of Salem demand tithes from Abraham or was it customary?
Why do "modern" day "pastors have to twist the Scriptures for momentary gains and not trust the faithful to do give freely?

I still don't see any example of a "laborer" paying tithes here, tithes were paid from the "produce of the land" and livestock, tent makers were not required to tithe neither were the other "artisans".

I have heard the argument " if 90% can not do it for you, 100% can't do it either" and have always wondered "who gets 100% after taxes?", free will giving is what is required of Christians and not some programmed offering. "Collect" doesn't mean 10% or does it? SHOW ME EXAMPLES OF WORKERS, LABORERS, etc PAYING TITHE

It took Martin Luther to point out what was wrong with the sale of indulgence and it might take another Martin Luther and even an MLK to free poor Nigerians from this god of men inspired bondage, poor country men gets screwed by their "government" Monday through Friday and on Sundays by some of the folks who are supposed to look after their spiritual welfare, omase!

Stealing is stealing whether you use a gun or the Bible

kcng:
wahahala no dey,
  Bakare done talk him own wey God send am.If you like disagree,but good students of the bible know he is 100% correct. The dog wey go lost no dey hear the wistle of the hunter.(yoruba proverb)
  na prayer remain make we dey pray for Oyedepo and Adeboye,make them no die inside these yayayama wey them dey do.
  pastor Adeboye no snap picture with Abacha?wey redeem come take am do calender? when the man come die them come dey yarn rubish, what of Obasanjo? All of them no be padi padi wayo wayo, arrangi nii. i miss felaoooooo!pastor Adeboye too like fame i beg, proper yoruba man pretender.
 Oyedepo suppose go join Opec.lol, oil mechant.i pity all of nna wey dey drink rubish oil and rubish matle.God no go forgive you, cause you go show God where for bible God allow you Oyedepo system of application.rubish extra sciptural devices.
Adeboye better small but Oyedepo no dey do like say him wan go heaven at all him no send.and people go dey follow them blindly,

Gbam! Tori don get K leg abi?

Gen. Effiong, not Ojukwu who ran to Ivory Coast