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Oro di hun, oro pesi je.

Abuzola is my brother in Islam, Nigerian and Mankind! We are both from Adam (AS), just like Jesus (AS). Wait a minute Jesus and me have the same father; Adam.

You see.

Abuzola is from a good home, so he respects his elders, as humanly as possible, as long as the elder does not facilitate his own dragging in the mud!

The worshippers of "servant" and "ghost" and "father" are out in full force. Where we they been hiding in the middle of ramadhan, except Allah confounded them, kept them busy away from Believers?

Oh much I miss the our going Shararun Ramadhan, already!

Osisi, welcome back, from whereever!

Ramadhan is ending and the Shayatin are out! SubhanAllah. Rabbi Haqq. RasulUllah haqq.

Tpia, am not from a village, unless Ijebu Ode is one. Do you know if Awujale is a Baale or Oba?

@Z-murda: « #77 on: Today at 01:48:35 PM »
]quote]Thanks Mullah Abuzola for informing us. El hadj Olabs has been persistently overloading Atheists and Christians alike with his diatribe. Its scary though, but I think I like it that I know from a true believer than a westernised Muslim [quote][/quote]He may have have more knowledge than me. Alhamdulillah. But a westernized Muslim? Not in a long shot.

I think America pretty much have good muslims that will make most in the so called Mudlim country feel some shame about their weak practices of Sunnah!

Combatants and Noncombatants

Allah excluded some people;

[إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ يَصِلُونَ إِلَى قَوْمٍ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهُمْ مِّيثَـقٌ]

(Except those who join a group, between you and whom there is a treaty (of peace),) meaning, except those who join and take refuge with a people with whom you have a pact of peace, or people of Dhimmah, then treat them as you treat the people with whom you have peace. This is the saying of As-Suddi, Ibn Zayd and Ibn Jarir. In his Sahih, Al-Bukhari recorded the story of the treaty of Al-Hudaybiyyah, where it was mentioned that whoever liked to have peace with Quraysh and conduct a pact with them, then they were allowed. Those who liked to have peace with Muhammad and his Companions and enter a pact with them were allowed. It was reported that Ibn `Abbas said that this Ayah was later abrogated by Allah's statement,

[فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ]

(Then when the Sacred Months have passed, kill the idolators wherever you find them) Allah said,

[أَوْ جَآءُوكُمْ حَصِرَتْ صُدُورُهُمْ]

(or those who approach you with their breasts restraining) referring to another type of people covered by the exclusion from fighting. They are those who approach the Muslims with hesitation in their hearts because of their aversion to fighting the Muslims. They do not have the heart to fight with the Muslims against their own people. Therefore, they are neither with nor against Muslims.

[وَلَوْ شَآءَ اللَّهُ لَسَلَّطَهُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ فَلَقَـتَلُوكُمْ]

(Had Allah willed, indeed He would have given them power over you, and they would have fought you.) meaning, it is from Allah's mercy that He has stopped them from fighting you.

[فَإِنِ اعْتَزَلُوكُمْ فَلَمْ يُقَـتِلُوكُمْ وَأَلْقَوْاْ إِلَيْكُمُ السَّلَمَ]

[b](So, if they withdraw from you, and fight not against you, and offer you peace,) meaning, they revert to peace,

[فَمَا جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سَبِيلاً]

(then Allah has opened no way for you against them), you do not have the right to kill them, as long as they take this position. This was the position of Banu Hashim (the tribe of the Prophet ), such as Al-`Abbas, who accompanied the idolators in the battle of Badr, for they joined the battle with great hesitation. This is why the Prophet commanded that Al-`Abbas not be killed, but only captured. Allah's statement, does

[سَتَجِدُونَ ءَاخَرِينَ يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَأْمَنُوكُمْ وَيَأْمَنُواْ قَوْمَهُمْ]

(You will find others that wish to have security from you and security from their people.) refers to a type of people who on the surface appear to be like the type we just mentioned. However, the intention of each type is different, for the latter are hypocrites. They pretend to be Muslims with the Prophet and his Companions, so that they could attain safety with the Muslims for their blood, property and families. However, they support the idolators in secret and worship what they worship, so that they are at peace with them also. These people have secretly sided with the idolators, just as Allah described them,

[وَإِذَا خَلَوْاْ إِلَى شَيَـطِينِهِمْ قَالُواْ إِنَّا مَعَكُمْ]

(But when they are alone with their Shayatin, they say: "Truly, we are with you.''). In this Ayah, Allah said,

[كُلَّ مَا رُدُّواْ إِلَى الْفِتْنِةِ أُرْكِسُواْ فِيِهَا]

(Every time they are sent back to Fitnah, they yield thereto.) meaning, they dwell in Fitnah. As-Suddi said that the Fitnah mentioned here refers to Shirk. Ibn Jarir recorded that Mujahid said that the Ayah was revealed about a group from Makkah who used to go to the Prophet [in Al-Madinah] pretending to be Muslims. However, when they went back to Quraysh, they reverted to worshipping idols. They wanted to be at peace with both sides. Allah commanded they should be fought against, unless they withdraw from combat and resort to peace. This is why Allah said,

[فَإِن لَّمْ يَعْتَزِلُوكُمْ وَيُلْقُواْ إِلَيْكُمُ السَّلَمَ]

(If they withdraw not from you, nor offer you peace) meaning, revert to peaceful and complacent behavior,

[وَيَكُفُّواْ أَيْدِيَهُمْ]

(nor restrain their hands) refrain from fighting you,

[فَخُذُوهُمْ]

(take (hold of) them), capture them,

[وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ]

(and kill them wherever you Thaqiftumuhum.), wherever you find them,

[وَأُوْلَـئِكُمْ جَعَلْنَا لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ سُلْطَـناً مُّبِيناً]

(In their case, We have provided you with a clear warrant against them), meaning an unequivocal and plain warrant.[/b]

[وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ أَن يَقْتُلَ مُؤْمِناً إِلاَّ خَطَئاً وَمَن قَتَلَ مُؤْمِناً خَطَئاً فَتَحْرِيرُ رَقَبَةٍ مُّؤْمِنَةٍ وَدِيَةٌ مُّسَلَّمَةٌ إِلَى أَهْلِهِ إِلاَّ أَن يَصَّدَّقُواْ فَإِن كَانَ مِن قَوْمٍ عَدُوٍّ لَّكُمْ وَهُوَ مْؤْمِنٌ فَتَحْرِيرُ رَقَبَةٍ مُّؤْمِنَةٍ وَإِن كَانَ مِن قَوْمٍ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهُمْ مِّيثَاقٌ فَدِيَةٌ مُّسَلَّمَةٌ إِلَى أَهْلِهِ وَتَحْرِيرُ رَقَبَةٍ مُّؤْمِنَةً فَمَن لَّمْ يَجِدْ فَصِيَامُ شَهْرَيْنِ مُتَتَابِعَيْنِ تَوْبَةً مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَلِيماً حَكِيماً - وَمَن يَقْتُلْ مُؤْمِناً مُّتَعَمِّداً فَجَزَآؤُهُ جَهَنَّمُ خَالِداً فِيهَا وَغَضِبَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَلَعَنَهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُ عَذَاباً عَظِيماً ]

(92. It is not for a believer to kill a believer except by mistake; and whosoever kills a believer by mistake, he must set free a believing slave and submit compensation (blood money) to the deceased's family unless they remit it. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (is prescribed); and if he belonged to a people with whom you have a treaty of mutual alliance, then compensation (blood money) must be paid to his family, and a believing slave must be freed. And whoso finds this beyond his means, he must fast for two consecutive months in order to seek repentance from Allah. And Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.) (93. And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him.

@Abuzola; Salaamualaykum wR taala wB. JazakAllahu Khair. I saw your entry and the ahadith is very extensive, so am give you as a two parter, and please attention to the hilighted. Allah says He testifies that He is the Only Lord, so do the Angel make their testimonies and the people of Knowledge as well (Surah Al Imran). Muhammad (AS) said in ahadith that Allah loves believers, but loves the one with power; strength, wealth, knowledge, etc that does benefit others as well more than the ones who lack these things, for their belief befenfits themselves only.

Censuring the Companions for Disagreeing over the Hypocrites who Returned to Al-Madinah Before Uhud

Allah criticizes the believers for disagreeing over the hypocrites. There are conflicting opinions over the reason behind revealing this Ayah. Imam Ahmad recorded that Zayd bin Thabit said that Messenger of Allah marched towards Uhud. However, some people who accompanied him went back to Al-Madinah, and the Companions of the Messenger of Allah divided into two groups concerning them, one saying they should be killed and the other objecting. Allah sent down,

[فَمَا لَكُمْ فِى الْمُنَـفِقِينَ فِئَتَيْنِ]

(Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites) The Messenger of Allah said,

«إِنَّهَا طَيْبَةُ، وَإِنَّهَا تَنْفِي الْخَبَثَ، كَمَا يَنْفِي الْكِيرُ خَبَثَ الْحَدِيد»

(She (Al-Madinah) is Taybah, and she expels filth, just as the billow expels rust from iron.) The Two Sahihs also recorded this Hadith. Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said that the Ayah was revealed about some people in Makkah who said they embraced Islam, yet they gave their support to the idolators. One time, theses people went out of Makkah to fulfill some needs and said to each other, "If we meet the Companions of Muhammad, there will be no harm for us from their side.'' When the believers got news that these people went out of Makkah, some of them said, "Let us march to these cowards and kill them, because they support your enemy against you.'' However, another group from the believers said, "Glory be to Allah! Do you kill a people who say as you have said, just because they did not perform Hijrah or leave their land Is it allowed to shed their blood and confiscate their money in this case'' So they divided to two groups, while the Messenger was with them, and did not prohibit either group from reiterating their argument. Thereafter, Allah revealed,

[فَمَا لَكُمْ فِى الْمُنَـفِقِينَ فِئَتَيْنِ]

(Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded this Hadith. Allah said,

[وَاللَّهُ أَرْكَسَهُمْ بِمَا كَسَبُواْ]

(Allah has cast them back because of what they have earned.) meaning, He made them revert to, and fall into error. Ibn `Abbas said that,

[أَرْكَسَهُمْ]

(Arkasahum) means, `cast them' . Allah's statement,

[بِمَا كَسَبُواْ]

(because of what they have earned) means, because of their defiance and disobedience to the Messenger and following falsehood.

[أَتُرِيدُونَ أَن تَهْدُواْ مَنْ أَضَلَّ اللَّهُ وَمَن يُضْلِلِ اللَّهُ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ سَبِيلاً]

(Do you want to guide him whom Allah has made to go astray And he whom Allah has made to go astray, you will never find for him a way.) meaning, there will be no path for him, or way to guidance. Allah's statement,

[وَدُّواْ لَوْ تَكْفُرُونَ كَمَا كَفَرُواْ فَتَكُونُونَ سَوَآءً]

(They wish that you reject faith, as they have rejected, and thus that you all become equal.) means, they wish that you fall into misguidance, so that you and they are equal in that regard. This is because of their extreme enmity and hatred for you. Therefore, Allah said,

[فَلاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ مِنْهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءَ حَتَّى يُهَاجِرُواْ فِى سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ تَوَلَّوْاْ]

(So take not Awliya' from them, till they emigrate in the way of Allah. But if they turn back,) if they abandon Hijrah, as Al-`Awfi reported from Ibn `Abbas. As-Suddi said that this part of the Ayah means, "If they make their disbelief public.''

jesus said that he does not know you, so you will be led to lake of fire. this is the truth and i can give you the verse from yor bible! thats the fact.


can you do the same about your statement of lie you made on my messenger (as)?

@GODSON2009: When a person dies there is nothing anyone can do in all normal circumstances. None, that includes, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad can do anything about it. No one and my proof is that no one of them independently woke up any dead person and say that he did it of his own power, and no one of them repeated it that it became synanemous with him, a routine and if you have the proof present it for all to read.

If what you said about Muhammad (AS) saying that their from them as a way to respond to the death of young people, I am certain that a child belongs to his/her bloodline, the family, the town and tribe before being independent enough to abandone what the family do. No? That is your answer, and in Stevens Spielberg's Shindlers list movie, the young Jewish boy outsmart the Nazi by saying that the person he was looking for to kill was the same person who he had just killed to get the attention of the community that he wanted the criminal to be pointed out to him. The littleboy knew dead people can talk, so he shamed the tyrannical grown man nazi!

Muhammad was right to say that they belong to their bloodline, because my children belong to me, and I belong to the Ijebus of the yoruba tribe. No?


I remember a graduate student married a woman fiend that I have when he was doing his dissertation of the pastoral degree at Columbia in NYC. She told me that he was doing something about Islam. So I said that it will nice to talk to muslims, and I volunteered! Guess what; as much I reminded her of this livelaboratory, he never took it up. Why? Because the Christians buried their heads in the sand of Ignorance sold on a bill of goods about the blood of a man instead of Jewish Aminal blood as a way of atonemeny!


Finally, Wahabbiism and Sayid Qubub are just people who tried to reform their society, and not the direct authority in Islam.

They are similar to Pat Robertson, or Oral Roberts, or others of Televangelising in America na dindeed the rest of the world! Is King James of England who commissioned the Bible the final authority on Christianity or Bible? The answer is no, Paul is.

Do you think Wahhabi or Qubt is the authority of Islam? If you thik so, no wonder you chose them and you will remain in your ignorance until you come out of that complete darkness!

@Nezan: « #1 on: Yesterday at 01:01:25 PM »

Make una look well well, na money the man dey find, BTW, what is the man's name, village etc. So much for this una lies

Una stereotyping my inlaw's people tribe is appaulling! Alhaji Isa Okeke lives and is making good life in Enugu. U dey lie on Igbo people as if they will lie and connive for the sake of money. It is just like the rest of the world is saying something similar about Nigeria and fraud!

Some may just think that there is no single honest nigerian, heck, it is the few that are involved in fraus who soil the good name of nigeria. Igbo people should be becoming muslims, and we know there is at least 5% arewa people who are christians!

@Davidylan: This is the exact verse from Quran.

Way. (QuranAnd (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight , Az-Zukhuruf, 43:61)


Am I missing something or it is you who have missed your own question?

Davidylan asked a question and I supply the answer, he responded as if the answer was not indirect and adequate one to his question. I dont get it, the verse does not exist in the Quran or you dont think its enough? This will help me to give you the verse in words and see where I am wrong and you correct!?

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By the way why has it become so difficult for abuzola to provide us the quranic passages showing that Christ's second coming was prophesied by allah?

Havent you found your quran yet?

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@Davidylan: Quran 43 Verse 61 should be what you are looking for as the return nabiullah Isa bin Mariam (AS)! You could have done that by using Google. No?

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@Davidylan: Quran 43 Verse 61 should be what you are looking for as the return nabiullah Isa bin Mariam (AS)! You could have done that by using Google. No?


I already did justice to that lie. Read further up the thread.

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@Davidylan: I was going to completely ignore your statement of "more than human thinking will be needed to understand since nothing is literal" in your explanation of what the Bible really means, thinking that you did not pay attention to the fact that the Bible is written for humans, even as you claimed that the holy ghost that was the one instructing the human writer, the audience is still human until I read the below.

this is largely incorrect. To start with islam clearly rejects the notion that Christ died on the cross . . . this itself is the very basis for christianity and is the only reason Christ came to earth in the first place. That is a more fundamental issue than merely "elevating Jesus to God".

If this is not the reason that Jesus came, then your religion as you said "will have no real foundation!" No?

If I can then give you a quote from the Bible that came from the mouth of the Biblical Jesus about his coming, other than dying on the cross, then you will have no choice but to abandone the religion you have presumptiously accepted because of family tradition and or what you have been nurtured to accept, instead of the truth.

No and are you up for the challenge? Is any christian willing to sign on in this agreement if you are sure of your faith, by the reason that Davidylan gave above for why Jesus came? It will be nice to see many strong Christians take up this challeneg.

@Davidylan: Quran 43 Verse 61 should be what you are looking for as the return nabiullah Isa bin Mariam (AS)! You could have done that by using Google. No?

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What a show of naivity in the hypocritic month of rammadan

I wonder what all this means except conjecture, a baseless statement. In the Month od Ramadan, should muslims die or close their eyes to evil against Islam?

@Nezan: I wonder if you realised that the verse 71 of Surah Mariam was talking about all mankind; muslims and nonmuslims alike must pass over it and then there will be a torque movement going on. It will shear under all the nonmuslims and the among of the hypocrites and evildoers among the muslims, when they are over it, trying to pass.

And the muslims evildoers and what ever from the amount of the hypocrites Allah Wishes to forgive will be brought out, remaining the rest, and the complete body of disbeliefs; Christians, Jews, Hindus, Taoists, confusionist, Buhddists, etc and of course the atheisst and agnostics.

@Davidylan: « #1 on: Today at 10:01:29 PM »  

this story simply illustrates the one-sided and hypocritical nature of islam. Jews share a synagogue with muslims . . . would muslims share a mosque with jews? Go figure . . . allah's quran calls those jews apes and pigs.

And in Madina, Muhammad (AS) received guests from a Christian civilation, the 3 people he hosted in his Mosque, next door to his house. They the christians conducted their services in this mosque, even way back then. David go to your TextBook to find out; WWW. Google.com!


@noetic2: « #2 on: Today at 10:02:09 PM »  

this is good news. . . . . .but we all know that muslims are only civil when in the minority.

I have made salah is Churches, civic centers, and synagogue. And if a people who under Islam cant accomodate the Christians in their service as in the same way as the prophet (AS) accomodated his guests, one wonders if such a muslim community group understands their Islamic role!

For those of you who think that the muslims' concern and worry about the controversy of Gani Faweyinmi, should know that your reasonings are so far from reality that you are not making even a secular societal degree of sensibility.

First a person who as they claimed for SAN Faweyinmi did a lot of philantropical deeds should not end up like in the old anti charity adage of "taking it with him" be indulging in death in a gold casket burial.

If we turn around and play out the islamic card, we will notice that you do not retire as a muslim before your death and at death and still be said to be a true muslim. The one who ends up being consistent is the muslim. Islam's paradise is not by deeds alone, else Ted Turner, Bill Gates, but disbelievers in existence of God but great charity people will be in the uppermost level! But thats not it is. The first thing is that one believes throught out life and in death it gives such an indication. So Laa ilaha IlAllah is not said alive with other extramurals, hidden or openly, and of course in death goes completely against Islam!

Delay of burial without medical reasons, is not permissable because the body is no good to the society anyhow and if left alone for long becomes a burden, a dislike and an eyesore, apart from the fact that it is deprived from gettng to the place it will remain until just at the beginning of Judgement,and the family is not over burial anyway until burial is done.


With all of these in place, if Faweyinmi being a lawyer is so important, except for other things that we do not know, Muhammad is the Professor of Sharia Law! Is there a bigger lawyer, yet he was buried as quickly as possible. Muhammad was the most known and most charitable among mankind, and you can argue against it, thats your view, but he was buried just as quick as he died.


If anyone deserved the best of burial, it would have been Muhammad (AS) yet it was simple, not wasting money, time and emotion without causing any controversy.


I remember as a child a lot of lawyers were members of the Secret Societies; Ogboni and Lodges and Masons, etc. I told my wife who happens to be muslim never to partner nothing with Allah and she will never become a member of anything, except the Muslim membership of deen Al Islam.


Whats so funny is that Faweyinmi's grand nephew became a muslim in Medical school, and he is a great Muslim Doctor, studied in DC area (Georgetown) and moved to Texas before finally moving to UAE with his yoruba also DR. Wife, who met each other in Med. Scool.

@Sleek29: « #5 on: Today at 03:47:52 PM »

Did Christ tell them to kill anyone?

They did it anyway. I will come back to that. But Jesus was not more vocal than Moses about preserving lives. In Moses' 10 Commandments, you have thou shall not kill in there and see how much killing happened after that. And if Jesus said that he came to fulfill the laws and prophets, that included the 10 commandments and the actions of Moses!

And those of you who say that Jesus said not to kill, we also see his statement about bringing war instead of peace and instructing the purchase of Swords which was carried out and of course in his days as a youth overturning the table of the money changers.

If Jesus said something and most of the Christians ignored it and do the exact opposite, from generations and still doing it now, even as he commands against killing, and by your admission, these people are not Christians, you see why the large number in Christianity is disbelieving and just a true few Christians left, the reason most of you, by your own admission will end up in the lake of fire as mentioned in the Bible. Jesus will say to those people then that he does not know them even though they performed huge miracles in his name.

We muslims say that you corrupted the message of Jesus, and by your own admission, above, you confirmed it and Islam now says that the few of you who will not be condemned to lake of fire will be condemned to Hell fire as it is stated in the Quran. Head you loose. Tail you loose, too, as long as you are not a Muslim. Sing all the songs you want on earth, in hell none of those will be things that you have time for!

John 14:24, ''He who does not love Me does not keep my words ,

And copying Biblical Jesus will make you say dont do something, and you turn around to do the same thing. What a sincere advise especially when you call somebody a fool, at sometime after you have advised that whoever calls anyone that will go to Hell. Where do we sent the advisor who broke his own advise to? Tell me Sleek29.

anyone who doesn't show love to his neighbour ain't from Christ man.

Make this case with the people Biblical Jesus called Dogs or compared to it, or the people he called vampire, etc, evil generations. And this were his people, and his companions/disciples people of little faith. We cant compare that to Muhammad who never curse his companions and he announced that from them Abu Bakr is like Ibrahim and Isabin Mariam (AS) and Umar bin Khattab is like Nuh and Musa.

Who are the disciples of Jesus of the Bible except deniers, betrayers, etc, etc, and of course doubters after all the years they had spent with him?

My dearest Sister, As Salaamualaykum wa Rahmatullahi Taala wa Barackatuh. E seun. Olorun a wo Ola Awe no fi yo ese wa kuro. Amin.

@Godson2009: If Muhammad (AS) wrote the Quran, and he being an illiterated or if you will a Ph. D. degree holder, and in his human effort muster such a thesis to rival what the holy spirit has helped many people of knowledge to put together at first, and they are still readjusting this book bcause holy spirit is still helping them on it, then Muhammad (AS) must be commended!

A single person going toe to toe with holyspirit and men, he would have deserved the title Israel because for sure from your own admission, he has not been defeated by the holy ghost in combination with men, even by his only first time to pen down the MASTER PIECE.

And your comment about killing of children, since you brought about Khair, we should therefore note that Muhammad (AS) by divine wisdom says to people "Unless you see the Unknown, Unseen which is the Future" then you can kill the children. But no one sees or knows the unseen or the unknown. Not even Jibril the Malaika. And if you look at the Bible, Jesus said he does not know the Time of the Hour, so he and Jibril and Muhammad, none knows the future, so thats your answer! It simply says that you cant do it, unles you meet all these conditions.



And the people who put the intestine on him (AS) in prayer, are their deeds by it worse as or than the woman who put poison in his meal? If he did not not kill the woman and let her go, which was the greatest of Mercy, and no prophet have evetr done anything like that, and no Jwish God and or Christian God matches it, then tell me if it is plausing to have killed for such a very very much less offense? You see how merciful his heart was? Show me a prophet that did that, while in position to punish the offender? No Jesus of the Bible can do that, and if you arge it, please show the conditions?


The prostitute did not hurt Jesus and Jesus was not in position of power as to being hung so his statement of I forgive you is from a position of weakness, not that of strength of Muhammad with the companions surrounding him, yet forgave the the venomous woman.

Think about it.

@Babaearly: « #36 on: Today at 03:50:12 AM »

Shut the Bleep up Fool!

Some day you may just get your chance to help me with it.

This paedophilia shit is very rampant in the North thats why its used as the yardstick to explain this heinous crime. Where do you think the majority of Moslem fundamentalists who mary 5-12 years old little girls reside?

You shame me and all Nairalanders, and right thinking Nigerians. You have always been Abuzola's accomplice, so it doesnt surprise me that you have given him a pat in the back.

If only I care about your emotion. If I were to be in front of you, I will throw ashes on you so that your shame can be seen on your face for miles.

When slowpoke like you generalise, just like people who are not nigerians generalise about the criminality of nigerians, I stand up to defend the coountry.

Are all northerners pedophiles? The answer is no!

Are all nigerians criminals? The answer is no!


Think and get a brain instead of macaronis.

Obun ara e. Your type talks about others and make no reflections about themselves. And in my eye, Abuzola is a better man than you will ever be, as long as you a darn Keferi.

Whatever he was, its all over for him. If he was a True Believer in Islamic Monotheism and his burial situation was the making of others, then he will find his rewards. If he is what the nonMuslims think and created a controversy after himself, he will find the consequences of them!

Allah is not hurt in the least if the whole world decides to do what they want to do. Their situation is but a time and finally the world will be perished and man will be recreated for Judgement. Everybody will be examined for their Belief in Laa ilaha ilAllah. If you fail this nothing will make you pass. Nothing.

Aya mi Zainab is an Igbo Muslim Woman. Doodoo o lala baku ewa, to ba doju ale ma ba e loo o. Zainab is a pure Muslim woman. She will not be divorced by me. No sir. InshaAllah she will be my widow after I have lived for 130 years, see a lot of former Keferis become Muslims; males and females.

She is smart and a natural muslim in her kindness. Almost kind to a fault.

Death is without rest for "disbelievers" and hypocrites.

Disbelievers are the nonMuslims.

Hypocrites are the muslims by lips and the heart belies what the lips say, and in the end Allah exposes them!

The prophet (AS) before he died trusted a simple companions with 10 names. He told this simple Companion (RA) never to attend their funerals when they died. This statement is a miracle all by itself; The names and the instruction attached, and the fact that the trustee by this simple instruction is guaranteed to outlived the 10 people. Do you have a situation like that in your Christendom, where a person is told that he will live to see XYZ event(s) and it happened as stated? Tell us if you do, and if you slip up with the speaking in tongue stuff, I will give you an analysis of it that will be head and shoulders over the glossary that you have in Post Jesus Bible Books; Acts and what follows.


The 10 men were hypocrites, so everyone, including the best of men who were already guaranteed Paradise wanted to know if they are in the list of 10, but the trustee will not tell and no one can force him, except that they go to every death ceremony which he participated, and if he is not a funeral proceeding, the wise and pious will leave immediately.


Hypocrites are in the ranks of muslims and you are a disbeliever. It is not permissable to pray on believers or pray mercy and or forgiveness on him after death, the reason we are asking you to turn around and not go to the helish part of HEAVEN.

@Nezan: Abuzola is whipping like I dont know what. He toys with you to much. You better pay your Jizya to him so that he can let off some.


And there is no Christian Territory in Nigeria. Igboland they have now, I am colonizing it anew. No single square inch will be yielded for the Keferis.

@Davidylan: « #206 on: Yesterday at 04:01:03 PM »

Know you dont . . . stop lying.

Heaven is NOT ONCE mentioned either in the hadiths or quran. It doesnt exist in islam.

If paradise and hell are not in heavens now, they must be there in Rochester. No? No wonder Tupac Shakuur was asking in his ghetto lingo that he believed hell has ghetto. Maybe the ghettoes of hell are in Downtown Rochester, NY or in the hoods. No?

And as to your saying that Heaven was not mentioned once, in either Quran or ahadith; I think you need to know that Samaah is heaven in Arabia. And you will read 7 heavens as Sammawati. You need real spiritual education. And the Isra wa Miraj was a journey to heavens in the Miraj part. No?


[Quote]How come they ended up in Sura 53? And pls dont mention that weak "satan" excuse.[/quote]I think Christianity is a malady. A smart man like you is asking such a foolish question like the above? Then ask yourself; how did the Devil ended up in the New Testament, afterall you cant deny it, because he inspired your god three times, no? Then is the devil his best friend since he after a while told him to get away from him? Or do you people worship the devil two, seeing it as the companion of your god for a while there?

We could play this game all day long and you cant win it, even with you shear larger number like locusts!

I hope you also know that allah was an idol worshipped by pagan arabs before islam . . . mohammad's father is a good example.

I hope you also know that the Arabs did not make any representative of the allah in their pagan era? You need to do research and when you find it let s read it altogether. And note that your god has 2 or so father lineages; one david and the other Joseph the carpenter, while you cling to the notion that he is also son god? David which one is it, and this is your own admission, while you are at the same time forcing your will of what must be the case on the muslims in the issues of Islam?

We simply go by what you say of yor religion and ask you to defend it, but then you force us to accept what you want us to say is happening in Islam, without allowing us to be the one that tells you whats happening?

There is Oluwole short for Oluwawole in Yorubaland. My cousin bears that name, and is he Oluwa when I see him or ias he enters the house, Oluwa enters it?

Dont be silly Abdallah of preIslam is not the same as Abdallah of Islam.

@Godson2009: I do not have to be a Muhadithan (Scholar of hadith) to know that anything that is against Quran Muhammad (AS) cant do them. And Aisha (AS) had reported that The Prophet (AS) never took personal revenge, so if he did not get the Jewish woman who poisoned him killed, when the companions (RA) wished he did, how can he asked and killed anyone and you are saying young girls for simply singing a song that mock him?

You should have thought about this before putting up Ibn Ishaq 819, a writer who borrowed heavely from Christians and Jewish sources? I never take anything he writes even with a few grains of salt.

But then go to answering-christianity (type any subject you will like to know a thing or two about). That will solve your problems.

@Z-murda: « #18 on: September 14, 2009, 12:59 PM »

Mr Olabowale, you are still not getting the point. I do not believe such a thing as hellfire!
Its a figment of imagination, designed to scare some middle easterns into subservience. Unfortunately, it succeeded and here we are, people are killing themselves and others not to get into it

Just like you have no saying so in your birth, you dont have any in your getting older now. Say in 80 years from now, you will definitely get it. Hopefully you will see your folly and change your ways.

But if you dont, the reality of Hell will appear before your eyes! Then you will get to know. Go night in your "Big Country; Texas."

The position of Islam is clear and living life, dying and burial. Every other thing(s) is other(s). Muhammad (AS) said that this our affairs (Islam) is complete, and whoever innovates does not not come from him(AS).

Should I leave The Majority: Allah (SWA) the Almighty God ?

Should I leave His Elect: Muthammad (AS), His Messenger?

Should I follow deviation? No!

@Davidylan: « #202 on: Today at 03:46:02 PM »

Mohammad then FALSELY tries to excuse his satanic inclinations with this verse . . . Sura 22:52. We did not send before you any messenger, nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. GOD then nullifies what the devil has done. GOD perfects His revelations. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.*

Sorry but i dont recall the devil influencing satanic verses in the books of Moses, the psalms, songs of solomon or the gospels.

If shaitan is eyeball to eyeball with you, you will think that he is the most pious person. This is the reason that you think what you have in your hand is pure. So in your Psalm, David danced naked, no? In your Torah, Moses killed somebody and ran away and God was trying to kill him while he was sent on an errant by the same God, is not extremely convoluted, no? And who will forget shaitan taking Jesus to the peak of the mountain (how tall is this?) to see the gift waiting for him (the whole world at a glance?), is that normal or there is hand of Shaitan in each, no?

What I have said above is to let you know, again you will not know shaitan if he lives next door to you because your heart of Christianity is polluted since your God is 3, and you are passing them as 1! David, send me 3,000.00 USD and I will return it as 1,000 USD and take it that you will agree with me that in the tradition of Trinity I can do it and you aint gonna complain?

Finally, since we see it in Quran that Jesus and others are prophets, then the same thing that happens to Muhammad (AS) happens to them, no wonder he preached in the wilderness, leaving the habitation of humans, until God interject and brought him out

Do you want me to analyse in the same manner the three obvious "driving Ms. Daisy" influences of Devil iare recorded in your Bible?


Define Trinity and make academic sense of it, to justify spiritual sense. I know that when you perform 3 experiments they all roll up to 1 experiment, though each is for different and separate purposes? Or when you perform a single experiment, it comes 3 different experiments?


Big time "Quack" Scientist! Are you alright, man?

Is this about tribe since I read "your people in the north" and "you and your people will burn in Hell", etc are evil comments.

David, am a pedophile since am old enough to have my wife as a daughter.

Sometimes people mix culture with Islam. Islam is different and stands alone. Many may even be a member of evil cult and the face that they put out there is Islam. Muslims must never imitate disbelievers in anything that is against Islam.

But which Muslim people performed his washing, shrouding and Janazzah? These people need to ask Allah for big forgiveness.