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@Davidylan: And you know that I love you, but where in the Bible can you for certain say that you will not end up in thelake of fire, consiering that Jesus said that even not all who called him lord, lord will enter heaven.

Then it is also written in the Bible that many who performed great miracles in Jesus name will enter the lake of fire. Question: Do you not call him lod, lod, which make your chance a 50/50 case? Have you performed great miracles in Jesus name? If not, then know that the performers will enter lake of fire, what chance do you have to avoid it, without the greater miracles?

What is the nature of that greater miracle(s), since great miracle(s) are not enough to put you over the threshhold?


Now as to the achilles heel that eats you up so much, verse 71 of Mariam does not say that Muslim will burn, when if it is possible that they enter hell. But thats not what it says. But just to satisfy your lust for that situation, where did it say muslim will get hurt in hell, like the disbelievers will get hurt as they go ablaze, again and again?

Ibrahim was thrown into the fire to hurt him by tyrannical King Nimerod, after he had destroyed all the small idols and put the ax on the shoulder of the big and the only idol he did not destoyed. He ridicled them by saying that they should ask the idol and see if he will tell them who destroyed the smaller idol!


When they threw Ibrahim (AS) in the fire, Allah tolf the fire before Ibrahim get to it to be cool and a place of refuge for him. So if the believers enter hell, as a group, Allah will make it as in the case of ibrahim. My man, you dont have Allah and no one can help you against Him!

@Aloy-Emeka: It is the Quran. No real muslim will write it with a K. But lets leave that aside.

Imams do not have to be secularly educated before is deemed educated. Education did not start from the Western countries. The Oldest Universities are within the Muslim societies: Egypt, Morrocco. The Cap and gown used in matricualtions/graduations are copied from Al Ahzar University academic dressing/graduation symbols.

During slavery, the Muslims among the slaves were capable of reading and writing and were feared most by their masters. Islam compulsory education on the worshippers. The very first verse revealed says "REad" as the very first word. When you take declaration of faith, you have to start mastering the Quran, immediately, because you need it to perform you daily Salah.

It is true that the muslims are now at the bottom of the academic ladder, while they should be the ones performing the most advanced experiments and engaged in the best of technologies. It one reads the Quran, it engages you to a challenge of academic prowess.


The Egyptians used to have their best and brightest in Islamic academia. But today, they throw their damaged; like blinds, and crippled into Islamic education. These same people will be so good that they often combines the Secular along with the Islamic. I have seen many of them. MashaAllah, the become the best and the brightest and the ones who are preferred because of their theological academic.

It is the whole of the Quran itself. But for our purpose, Surah Zukruf (43) verse 81, because it embodied the iconoclastic quality of what the Christians say about Jesus, and what the Jews honorably say about Ezra, and what both of them claim for themselves and what the disbelievers, as a whole who call themselves children of the Creator say.

Iconoclast in the sense that it singly and completely destroys these notions in totality. It denies by saying that it is not possible and if it had been so, Muhammad would have been informed of it, to worship it, so that human beings can see that it is true, and the believers would have done it, willingly! But it is not true so any claims of child relationship to the Creator is a completely and utterly false and delutional without any truth and substance to such claim.

Say (O Muhammad): If the Beneficent One hath a son, then, I shall be first among the worshippers. (But there is no son).

@No2Atheist: Women can call each others, in America Dudes, Guys, but not fellas! It only when a man calls a woman Dude or Guy that she can raise an eyebrow. Also the poster i saying that Catholics are closest to Christianity, than others. Whatever Christianity means, she knows. She has her standard. Even though am not a Chrsitian, I will agree with her because it is the group that Protestant sprang from. So if there are two things of the same type, and one came from the other, we have to give props to the older because it has been existing longer. The protestant Bible is a copycat, less Books from the Catholics. No?

@Poster: You must be a freshman, because of your response to Senior woman, ~Lady~. She actually was saying that you should transfer to her school, in Tallahassee, because its a better academic and student life enviroment School. She propped up what the University is known for without any doubt, Marching Band. Of course both Universities are good Universities for academics and research,

@Respondents: The mother of Protestant is none other than catholic. And not the other way around. Let the Protestants in their ignorance deny it. Jesus, did not mention Protestants and failed to mention catholics. Heck, Jesus did not even mention Chritianity or Christians, so why trying to malign your mother Catholic, Protestant?


@~Lady~: I have to stand up for the truth.

@JeSoul: Doing poetry in the darK? Scooby doo, Beantown. Sometime I write so fast and my fingers may do the wrong skiptothebeatandjump!

Can any of you Christians, man or woman tell us that at 25, he or she was or is still a VIRGIN? David, go on and spill the beans in your "Jesus thumping motif." $Osisi, sorry I know you are a mother, but at 25 we wanna know, the Medical School days, uh?

At 25, in Makka over 1430 years ago, Muhammad was a Virgin! You people should speak after thinking. Is any of you chaste at 25? And HIV/AIDS was already here before anyone of you turned this age and it didn't stop you from sampling some food you have no business eating.

I have sex on my mind, yet an still chaste, because I dont do it with anybody am not married to! Could chaste be defined differently and not include a person who does not sleep with persons he is not married to? And am chaste because of Islam. Yes sir and yes ma. I cant lie and this is not a confession.

I know those of you who will say that you did not have intercourse so you are still a virgin. VIRGIN, and being Chasted means you do not voluntarily get involve in a sexual act, with or without coital! Muhammad did not go near that up to the age of 25 when he married a 40 year old twice married woman!

An older friend of mine who came from wealth used Prince Charles, as a good exampe of a spoilt person. He said this man in his 60s is still behaving like a young man. Almost childlike. Just imagine if this man is a woman! What about the Bushes? Lets start from the last President and how he was spoilt. You need to read his story as a grd student at Harvard! His famous picture was in class chewing gum.

What about the Princess of Monaco, or the grand daughter of Onassis? They would have been better if all they play with are Dolls and not men, as bed hoppers, and unrestricted alcoholic bengings.

@$Osisi:

Tell me how many 18 year olds play with dolls.
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Yesmina, the wife of my almost son, Amir Malik. Amitr is a lawyer in Madina, teaching English at the University there. Yesmina came from a wealthy Moroccan family. Spoilt and travelled first class, always.

From her upbringing, and you shouldknow because I thought you are from a wealthy family, she was spoilt and decorated her bedroom with dolls. I knew it because the husband spoke to me about it and I had to let him know that she was living the life, playing the part. Anyone who nows about wealth, will tell you that children from wealth grow up always, sheltered and have soft hearts and it is no surprise that many in adulthood, though responsible keep childlike qualities!

You remember Toys R Us companies advert "I dont wanna grow up am a toys R Us Kid?" Aisha was the daughter of Donald Trump or Bill Gates of Makka; Abu Bakr. It is no wonder she played with toys at her time, because Yesmina now close to 30 years old still have some that she plays with along with her daughter Khadijah. Some of Abiola's children that I know still behave with that taint of Billionaires children qualities. When you see wealth, you know.

That was the same story with Aisha! I hope you can spoil your children and give them what you may not have had. We always want our children to be better than us. And spoilling them do not translate necessarily that they will have no value or fail as a person!

Bill Gate came from wealth and the people who are wealthy, for the mosrt part, in head counts come from wealth, too.

Odumegwu Ojukwu came from wealth. remember.

When a person is this angry at islam, know that such a person is a potential Muslim or sincerely a hater. Remember Umar bin Khattab and Abu Jahal? There is no midle point. But because i like $Osisi, oh Allah dont make her Abu Jahal. Make her Umar bin Khattab, from your mercy. Amin.

Tell me woman, what are the characteristics of a pedophile? The psychological and sociiological qualitative descriptions? Can you tell us? I will be speaking to my business partner who is a Psychriatrist by training. I will ask her to tell me the profile from her studies, and I will post it in later date.

But I went on google and I will post what I saw there. There was no Muhammad (AS) i n there. Please produce your own professional data and lets compare them all!

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@$Osisi: « #103 on: Today at 12:06:20 AM »  

The  prophet of allah oogled over a baby crawling by
married a 6 year old and had carnal knowledge with her at the age of 9    
You shouldn't even repeat these things in the open

Have you seen a baby boy that you have ever said fine boy to because he is handsome, Dr.? If yes, then you had oogled over a baby who could not even srawl, yet! And at my age, if I marry a 19 year old tall and healthy looking (not fat) african woman,would not it be as if i was robbing the cradle? Yet the girl is already a woman since even a yonger age. Say 17. And could you tell us as a Doctor, what are the behavioral characteristics of a pedophile? You aught to know because it is part of your profession to be able to sense these things. I went and search what the pedophiles may look like and Muhammad (AS) aint in it!

« #104 on: Today at 12:11:40 AM »
Why do you think Mohammed made that claim?
He did so because intelligent people saw through his fraudulent hog wash and took him up on it and as usual allah always gave him a befitting revelation to get him out of a bind

So when the Quran cautioned him simply because he "turned his head away, frowning" what will you call that? Another way out of what: should frowning be a way to escoriate a person? The quality of that Man (AS) was so stella that Allah cautioned him or call him out just because he turned his head away from a person who needed his attention and did not want to wait his turn until he finished with the first person.

« #105 on: Today at 12:31:01 AM »  
Even his childbride was smart enough to know that he made the the whole thing up as he went along.

If this was true, she would and others would have spille the beans after his death. Would that should have been the case, Dr.? THis is your discipline to know the human behavior. No? But did any leave Islam after his death just because now the bully or bogey man is no more? The answer is no. So you have accused an innocent man for nothing! Childbride: Zainab is young enough to be my daughter. I guess she is a childbride too. No?

He couldn't resist the urge to sleep with family members so he said it was halal to marry relatives.

Cousins marry, in Europe. Or you are not away of it? The best in Christendom marry each other/one another at the cousin level. The blueblood of Europe do. I did world hitory in University.

Who did father Abraham married? Whats blood relationship of Sarah to father Abraham?

He couldn't keep his promises,allah reveals that he could break treaties

So when Allah tells him only Allah can make Muslims, how do you chalk that in the scheme of things that Allah always agreed t everything he did? Yet you are the same woman, who said he does not know what Allah will do with him after his death. You are talking with a forked tongue and it is unbecoming!

He couldn't keep his hands off women then allah revealed that he gave him special priviledges to sleep with any woman he could lay his hands on.

Yet in Surah Ahzab Allah says that his number was complete and even if all the women /wives were to leave/die, no more woman/wife for him. I wonder why this is the case, except that Allah knows that the reason for allowing him to marry these women, alliances formed are already compled. Why would he have married just one wife, 15 years his senior, twice married before him and he was a virgin and never married anyone until after her death? is this the sign of a man who couldnt keep his hands off women?

From 4 wives,allah gave him revelation he could have as many as he wanted including slave girls,any woman that gave herself to him
when his wives annoyed him,allah would come up with punishment for Muslim wives

I have answered you on the many he could marry,. But it is interesting that he did not accept anyone who offered herself to him. He did not sleep with anyone he was not married to. There was no punishment for muslim women because his wives annoyed him. Hewas not married to all Muslim women, but only his wives! You think this is in the same spirit as the transferrance of punishment or sin as in the "Christian's Original sin?"Which punishment did Allah come up with because his wives annoyed him?

He lusted after his own adopted son's wife and allah immediately came up with a Koran revelation making it oK for him to snatch his own son's wife.
What a prophet

Adoption, is not a natural relationship, but manmade. Allah destroyed manmade passing for natural. Allah says call them by their father's name. So Zainab, though my wife bears her father's name along with my name. She insisted on having my last name, so its compound name for her! What about you? Is there any place in your official name that has the marking of your maden name?

this hadith  quoting aisha summarizes it all the background here was when he was found in bed with his wife's slave girl.

It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire." Sahih Muslim vol.2:3453-3454 p.748-749.

Let us wager, if you are sure" I say that Muhammad did not sleep with anyone, except the wives he legally married. I saythat he never slept with anyone who offered hierself in marriage. And I said that the hadith you quoted is weak, a lie from whoever said it against Muhammad (AS) attached to the lips of Aisha (RA).

Now that I have said this; whats your wager; I want you to propose what you will do if you are found incorrect. And what I should do if you are correct. I want you to set the stage and I hope you can keep your own promise?

Now, we will go to the said hadith in Arabic and we will find out the tuth about it. Are you game, missy?  


Chinua Achebe? Good one. But still a lie.

@ayusman16:Ronald Reagan died as a Christian with Alzeihmer. He wasted away and because he was unlike his former healthy looking over 6ft former self, they had a close casket! Now tell me, what is the consequent of this relative to his Christianity?

The Iron Lady, who was at a time the most powerful woman on earth, is a Christian suffering with dimenti or Alzeihmer, at least! Whats the conclusion of this with Christianity?

I ask you these because of your saying that Islam has something to do with some people who are suffering from Malady or die after convertion to it. What about the situation with Christianity; any opinion, ewhether Christianity is real or not, as you are insinuating above about Islam?

@JeSoul: The poet Laureate, when did you do scoopby doo to Philly? I hope you are enjoying the city of Brotherly love. But nothing will take your heart out of Beentown, just like am in the New York state of mind!

@Dankol: I have no intention of going to the father, so I have no need for Biblical Jesus! But then you say Jesus was not born of a man. But who is Mary from? The bloodline of other than man? I bear as last name, unfortunately my great grandfather, o at least my grandfather! My children even have this same last name!

Who is really the father of my children? Are we humans not called cildren of Adam? Was Jesus not called son of King David?

A real Alpha and Omega! What shape was Jesus before he came as a baby of his Mother Mary? What shape was Adam at creation?Who assumed the human shape first, Adam or Jesus? Who came as a full grown without a mother and or a father? Is that person's being to reality (human) not more miraculous than the one who came through pregnancy of a mother as an infant?

Is Eve being (Human) les miraculous than this since she was transformed to a grown woman, ready to be a mother from plain ol rib?

Please buddy, dont make me laugh!

@Bolicks: The part of your post that deserves response, in my opinion is the forgiveness of the future sins, now. The rest of them is just the usual rant. Let me now help you how future sins can be forgiven now. Theoutcome is that you do not commit that sin, ever. Did you see the movie back to the future? It is something like that.

Explanation. If you as a man is destined to commit illegal sex, say 2015, and you have been forgiven now of all your future sins, the elements that will prevent you from committing that sin will come just while the process of the sin, in 2015 is just about to come to play. You will know right there that Oh I would have committed this sin, except since I have been forgiven since 2009, what prevents me from doing it in 2015 is here to disallow it.


Say you are walking down the street and you know that this person coming towards you is game. She is looking at you and just a short street distance before you meet each other and the sexual negotiation will begin, a friend of yours came out from the side street and shouted: Salaamualeykum warahamatullah, (Your muslim name; sorry you are not a muslim). He engages you in dialogue and the woman waits and waited, but Allah makes your friend hold a longer conversation with you. You could not excuse yourself from his good and sincere talk.


Your potential partner in the illegal sex became frustrated, tired of waiting and left. Ten minutes later your friend said, MashaAllah and bade you farewell. Just then you realized that the woman was long gone and it hits you; My Lord had prevented me from indulging in this illegal sex!


Thats how it is, man! Allah is Powrful, and all things are in His control.

Do you have that kind of "Future" forgiveness of sins, even before it was ever the time to commit it!


My brother this example is not me. But I know, that if I were not have been muslim, and the rules of Islam prevents me, I am a hardcore rockerfella, not rockfella, alone. But Alhamdulillah, I know myself and I know Allah, so I fear Him and run to Him for Protections.

@Davidylan: Tell me, your friend, don't the other fellas (wink wink), the difference(s) between Heaven and Paradise, according to the Bible, per your statement above?

Where will you rather end up after death, Paradise or Heaven, according to the Bible?

Whch one is better, according to the Bible, from your understanding?



Let me say this, I personally was leaning towards Virgo83 not being Muslim! But I am not sure and I did not want to give in to Suspicions!


Come to think of it, I believe he is a Christian, whom I have responded to in the past. It is no wonder, if I am correct that his piece was Christian inspired which he comfortably planted amongst muslims, so that you Christian crusaders can have something to talk about.


And personally, just as you are wrong about not realizing that whenthe Sun setting rays hit a large body of water, what used to be crystal clear becomes dark (MURKY) to the eye, you are very wrong about this, too. If Virgo83 is muslim, he understands nothing about Islam and needs a good jolt of reality. If he is a chrsitian which I have a great feel that he is,snce his absence speaks volumes, we see what kind of expensive mes he has left on his own trail.


I still seek Allah's forgiveness though, and pray that Virgo83 and others see the light of Succes. It aint in what you are now.

I will send you email to show the surface look of body of water at sunset. I hope you can then show it on NL. If not I will email it to those who can.

My people, muslims and non muslims, alike; Allah is very Powerful and I want you to read the below dialogue I had with a brother who engaged me on line, just moment ago. Please have your own conclusion(s), but please know thathuman nature dictates defense mechanizm kicks in when one perceive threat.

The christian intended to hurt the pastor who converted. Thats normal. Yet he did not malign their religion. Unlike those who malign islam and you expect somebody not to een say a word? Lets be fair here.


ghanybayewu: Salam Alaikum

Are u there?

Me: wa aleykum salaam wr/wb

how are u? Am fine thanks for asking

ghanybayewu: I am fine also

Its been long we talk

How is work and family?

Me: yes my brother

how is egypt

ghanybayewu: You are taking me for someone else

Me: maa binu

ghanybayewu: This brother abdul gany from nigeria

Me: sorry

yes my brother

please for give me

ghanybayewu: its brother femi salaudeen that is in egpyt

Me: yes u are correct

how is the family

ghanybayewu: Alhamdulilahi they are all fine

How is the states

I said i want to send you a package the other day we talk last

I have not forget that

Me: i know, am ion a journey now so i will not be available for a month or two more

then u can get my addres again

i may be moving to a new home on my return

ghanybayewu: oh ic

ok

May Allah guard you back safely

Me: InshaAllah, we will take it a day at a time

ghanybayewu: When do you have it in mind that you want to come to Nigerioa?

Nigeria?

Me: InshaAllah, before the end of the year

I have to mt my inlws all of them are coming from england

ghanybayewu: ok

I would like to invite you to our open air all night

Me: okay

what do u do there

ghanybayewu: lecture we do have every week

oh okl

Me: okay

ghanybayewu: We do comparative lecture

Me: good

ghanybayewu: 3days a week

we move from one place to another

Me: thats nice and keeps people occupied

ghanybayewu: And Allah has reverted nothing less than 600-70 people back to Islam within 7yrs

Me: Alhamdulillah. Allahu Akbar

ghanybayewu: through our organisation

And we do debate with pastors

Me: nice and Allah is the One who makes muslims

thats a good thing the debates

ghanybayewu: We did convert a church to a masjid when their leader embrace Islam recently

Me: Subhanalah

Allahu Akbar

everyone of them accepted Islam

ghanybayewu: So i would like you to attend one of our lecture when you are arround

Me: InshaAllah

ghanybayewu: about 30% of them did

Me: Alhamdulillah

ghanybayewu: some of his children joined him and some did not

Me: I know

even the child of Noah (AS) turned disbeliever

ghanybayewu: The church sent some hire killer to kill the man but Allah did safe him

Me: Alhamdulillah

all in lagos?

ghanybayewu: So the Chief Imam of lagos gave himn some police men to be guarding him

Me: Subhanallah

ghanybayewu: The church was formaly know as New Jerusalem Church befor but now known as New Jerusalem Mosque

Me: Alhamdulillah

where in lagos?

ghanybayewu: At Ajasa Command

Not far from Meran Ijaye

Me: ubhannallah

subhannallah

ghanybayewu: Dawah is the weapon we need in Nigeria now

Me: yes you are right

ghanybayewu: And we have alot of muslims here in Lagos that are spoiling Islam

Me: i know

what do they do?

ghanybayewu: One of them said, Prophet is greater than Allah

Me: he must be mad, and double madness has overcame him

ghanybayewu: he said if they both are suppose to pray that Muhammed(pbuh) will lead the prayer

Me: he is no more a muslim

ghanybayewu: And he hjas alot of followers following him

Me: they are not muslims

ghanybayewu: There are alot of them like them

Me: they only bear the name and identity of islam. but in reality they are not

ghanybayewu: here in Lagos that are polluting the religion

Me: should their brainnot let them kow that Muhammad is dead and while alive he worshipped Allah

ghanybayewu: Well i don't know for them

Me: how is the worshipper greater than the Worshipped?

is servant greater than Master?

ghanybayewu: and some that don't offer salat, they said that Kalimotu Hsadah is greater than Salat

So they don't perfum salat

We used to go meet them at home

Me: without salah, there is no muslim identity

Shahada gets you in to the door of islam

ghanybayewu: I mean our organisation

Sure

Me: when you enter, you ind Salah right in front of you

if you abandone it, you abandoned Islam

ghanybayewu: Pls i will be right back

Me: kay

i actualy want to ask your permission to use this dialogue on Nl, but you are not returning and since this dialogue is a property of mine as well as your, i decide to use it anyway

ghanybayewu: I'm back now

Are u still there

Me: yes

can i use this dialogue on Nairaland about the church and the pastor whom they tried to kill/

ghanybayewu: Use as in

i donbt understand

You mean the clips?

Me: to copy it and show that even they wanted the pastor dead because he left Christianity

that wil kill the idea that only muslims do this

ghanybayewu: Yes you are free to copy it

Me: yes the clip

Jazakalahu khair

may Allah rewrd you

ghanybayewu: Amen

I can't lay my hand on the clip for now

I will try by this weekend, i will ask our lecturer this weekend

Me: okay

ghanybayewu: And i can give you some others also.

Some other public debate with pastors

Where do you stay in Nigeria

Me: u mean when i come

Lagos, Ibadan

ghanybayewu: ok

Are you from Ibadan?

Me: and my family home towns; Ijebu and owo, though I hardly stay in these two

ghanybayewu: ok

I am a Lagsian

Lagosian

Me: when I come this time

i will stay for about a year between for the most part lagos

Ikoyi or VI

I have to decide

ghanybayewu: oh ok

They are nice areas

I stay at Ikeja

Me: okay

ghanybayewu: Thats cool, so you will have time to do Jihad with us befor you go back

huh?

Me: Yes

dawah, tablik

so we will talk again

ghanybayewu: Are you going now?

Me: drop me a line since you have my email

ghanybayewu: ok i will

Me: i have some business to attend

ghanybayewu: whenvever am online

ok

Me: I waited as a sign respect to you

ghanybayewu: Goodluck

Me: thats good

Salaama

ghanybayewu: Wa Alaikum Salam

ghanybayewu is typing,
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kini iwo ogbeni yi tie nso? O kon fe paruwo sha! A mo wipe o wa nbi lai lanu e. Orun ai ni igbagbo e o je kaa rimu mi. Lo joko o jere! O je ma soo otoo. Boo tie gbolrungbo, iro ko lo ye kaa gbo lenu e. Too ba je bi awon egbe to wa she nshe leleyi, eni ri enikonkon faa mora.

@Backslider: Have you seen a muslim who has any knowledge call Muhammad bin Abdullah (AS) Allah? Have you seen the Muslims in Ghana bowing to Muhammad (AS)?

You this man, Onibon Oje ni e! Ojoro man! Let me say this to you, and of course you know it, but your heart will not let you confirm it: Muhammad and me, Olabowale bow ourwills to the same God, Lord the Creator. We call this Creator Allah. I when I talk to yoruba man or woman, I will call Him in Yoruba language Eledumare, Olorun, etc. Take your pick!

Have you ever heard a muslim in Yoruba language say; adupe lowo Olorun? Thats Allah he called Olorun. No Jesus, Not Yahweh. Not Jehovah. Not Holy ghost. Not Father. Not son. Not nothing, but Allah!

Loo joko o jare! You too sabi wayo. Wayo man. Hausa language has its own Eledumare/Olorun. So does Igbo people. You got to hear Alhaji Isa Okeke in Enugu say it to his family in Igbo language. You bore me man.

And Prophet Ayub (Job) AS, suffered more than him. Whats your take on him, then? What about the Pharaoh of Moses, according to your Bible, did not perish in the sea but returned to rule over an Army-less nation and probably died in his palace? Is he destined for Paradise, based on the fact that your Bible said that he did not suffer and died by drowning along with his army? What kind of a Ship Captain would not go down with his ship, but let all the crew member do?

@Backslider: If the way a person dies denotes the position of the person, either Paradise or Hell, what do you say to the person who was hung, beheaded, boiled in hot liquid, crucified, etc? What a person who didnt kill himself, but killed, like the arm robbers?

If you put the condition of Sheik Ahmad Deedat (ra) against any of these process, above, what level of hell or paradise if any of them is in? When you write, please write with clear mind. We know you hate islam. Thats fine and we do not mind it. But don't lie on a dead man. His deeds are witnessed by all Muslims, totalling more than a Billion people! There was never a time the live witnesses of any of the Messengers and or Prophets of Almighty get to 1 Billion!

If its shear head count, Ahmad Deedat is definitely in good company.

@eina: Less than 8 years ago, President Bush said this is "Crudase!" Go figure. And Christians don't fight any longer. When did that begin exactly? After the world wars, or when? If a Christian is not fighting, they will supporting somebody who does or agitate people to fight! How else can they support their Military industrial complexes?

Have you seen a group of Christian which ever turned the other cheek? America on Bush was on "preemptive" strike mindset. If you find a mob of Christians, know that a killing machine is in potential mode. To put then in active mode, all you have to do is to let them notice you that you are not with them!

And only a man with his head in the sand will believe that Crusade and wars are not in the waiting.

@Nezan: Its not done like that. It is forbidden to unjustly take a life. And you should not wish for death, either. I still have at least 7 decades to of good health and sound mind, InshaAllah to spend on this earth! Yet I do not want anyone who is younger than me to die in my lifetime.

@Flauncey: At the bottom of this page, right now, there is a Jesus loves you christian advert. I know the advert can only comes from christians, since no one else hold Jesus up like the christian does. Interestingly, the advert does not say christianity, or christian or church loves you to mean Jesus loves you!

What you then find is that you guys in Christianity (note that I do not say you guys in Chrsitian) believe that he is the only one that can love people the most! Now show that love and kindness by not so insultive (not that your curse or insult will harm Abuzola, InshaAllah, because he is in a superior spiritual platform and he is immune from all of the fake curses).

If I call you Christianity, will I be correct just as if I call you Christian? Rather if I say you are a chritianity, will it mean exactly when I say you are a Christian? Aren't you a chrstian will mean arent you a Chrsitianity? Abuzola wants an explanation of the convergence of Christianity and Christian! He says Christianity is not in the Bible. My qusetion to you is, is it there? Show us the verse. We have already agreed that Christians was used after the fact, in Antioch! This Antioch people saw jesus, or at least heard about him for all those years he preached (the god that preached, not commanding), they did not call his followers Christians, they had to wait until he left the earth!


Their resemblesthe case of the guy who first inroduce idol into the precinct of Kaaba in Makka. both of them are innovators. I am now asking you here and now; which erse in the Bible that you have hristianity written? Also is church goer equal to Church? Is Christian equal to Christianity?

@dexmond: The jamaicans do say mouth is made to chat "S$$$!" Thats what you are doing; chatting whatever. It does not make a lick of sense. Paul receiving mercy? Dawn it. Jusas Iscariot did not receive mercy afterhe don work tirelessly to tem bones for the boss man, and falter just this one time! Paul was on the way to Damascus to cream the christian and drag them to the roman authority in Jerusalem, and he received mercy? Mercy is free? If it was, then I wonder why Iscariot didn't get it, after he had paid so much.


Folks, am just jiving with this dude, about Damascus in Syria. The truth is that the Bible naration failed to recognized that Saul who became Paul would have no authority to drag anybody out to Rome, whose authority is not in control of Damascus!

It will be crazy to think that a renegade man or group from Nigeria, who is arresting and turning in criminals to the authority, will get up and go to Ghana (another country) to drag out Ghanaian citizens who ae criminals to Nigeria for the authority to deal with them! Is this a likely scenerio? Hardly. But the Christians believe it!

@$Osisi: Read my statement about Muhammad (AS) and intercession, again! Intercession for, means he will intercede on behalf of believers, with his Lord! Read the end part of Surah Mariam. Let me even give you the verse: 87. I need to shack you a bit so that you can run to my brother. So I will write the verse in arabic sounding read; Laa yamli kunas shafaa(intercession) ata illamanittakhadha inda Rahmanir(The Merciful/Beneficient) ahdaa!

Then read from Nariam about Paradise; verses 60 through 64. then Surah kahf, just before Mariam, verses 107 and 108. Surah Fajr (Dawn), the last verse (30); wadkhuli Jannati (Paradise). Sisis, I can give you a thousand of them. It all refer to "believers, under Muhammad Islam, under Isa bin Mariam;s Islam, Under Musa bin Imran's Islam, under Ibrahim's islam, Under Noah's islam, etc! No Christians and no people of Jewish religious faith in them> No Hindus or Atheists or whatever! Its meant purely for those who worship with full humility and reverence.

And i just saw your joke about asking God. I did already, then Allah is changin Oluwaseyi Elekuru of Ijebuland to Muslim. And inshaAllah, when you relax enough to let me talk to oga, we will form an alliance. When he becomes a muslim, you are automatically in with the kids! Oga is a reasonable man. I know. I cant handle you, but he sure can. Please model Abaya for my main man. Its now a couture being done by a big french fashion house.

May Allah forgive you Virgo83, if you are a muslim. Islam does not copy what other nations do. Allah's Angels are creaed by Him. No human can become Angel. Calling Michael "Wacko" is not a term of endearment. Wacko means crazy, mad, that sort of thing. If you are a muslim for a long time or even just new, you will know that Muslims dont subscribe to Child of God nonsense, or the rest in the Arm and all of those! Are you muslim, though? You need to start your Islam right.

$Osisi, the jig is up! Go put on Abaya. You wear Dr. Overcoat already. Thats a start.

@$Osisi: If I show you many verses of the Quran and many hadith that says Muhammad and Muslims will go to paradise, what will you do? You will become a muslima? I want to see you, as a friend in Abaya. And I want your husband to enjoy you. Then as men, over a tall glass of orange Juice, I will ask him if he notice the difference! You know men talk except no one will share details.

Let me whet your appetite, Muhammad (AS) will make intercession for believers. Where do you think they will go after the intercession, except Paradise. Surah, Fajr ends up with "Yaa ayu a nafsi mutnaina, urijihi Rabbik yadiya, wa dukul ibadi yaa dukul "Janatii." Janatii is Paradise.


A wife tells her husband, what a re you gonna do to me. She already knows whats gonna happen.

Muhammad already knows that he will enter paradise. He knows the key of paradise is with him. he is the leader of mankind! But in pure humility to Allah the Almighty, he says in reverence "I do not know what my Lord is gonna do to me!"



Prophet Ayub (AS) Job on his sick "bed", his Lord spoke to him: Oh Ayub, my servant what happened to you (Allah knows already)? Ayub answered his Creator, my Lord it is Shaitan that make me sick. Yet Ayub knows tat nothing can happen to him from Shaitan or anyone, xcept that Allah permitted it.
Allah knows that Ayub knows that Allah had permitted his malady and calamity. This responses from these noble prophets (AS) are statements of honoring and standing in full humity to their Lord, These were not arrogant men, that say it is by my power! My dear froiend, no one has power except Allah.


I want the best for you and the rest of mankind. But you got to choose where you wanna be. You have the right of first refusal, anyway.


And please for those people who may think my statement about the wife and husband is sexual, it may appear so, but it is not intended fr that purpose. But it is a process to let you know what Muhammad (AS) meant by your ill-understood quote about not knowing what he is going to get from Allah.


Read Surah Taha. Allah told him that he did not reveal Quran to him to make it a burden on him. So he was told to make his prayer of night voluntary worship for us, compulsory for him (a prophet), not all night, but part less than 50% or at most 50%! This is MERCY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!


Finally, a beautiful wrap may conatain a decayed or filth inside. If god eats and deficates (sorry. I sometimes like to shock you), then all of us are gods? NO? lol. Sisi $Osisi. I like the $ sign though. Dollar, Dollar.

Abuzola, Salaamualaeykum wa rahmatullahi taala wa barakatuh. You are talking to vultures whose beak are dull and can't tear the fresh from the bones! They are only powerful in numbers, and notin substance! Sleek and all of thm, and, even Davidylan who has a lion with a sun setting on the lion in his picture box, do even know that when the sun is setting, everything begins to get dark! It doeds not dawn on David that the lion with clear golden yellow coat looks almost dark with the sunset behind him!

May Allah protect you from this people. They are smart enough in classroom to know that devine and divinity are two different things. So should it have been for them to know that Christianity is not them, individually, but they are Christians. But old ignorance does not leave the mind so easily. You have to surgically operate it. It takes time man. It may go into remission, and then it flares up!

@dexmond: Oh man, you are atrip and then some. Now your Kingdom is spiritual, yet you are considering 3 earthly kingdoms! Heck, even shaitan has spiritual kingdom; he has followers, aint he? You are arguing about this world, and then you jump to the spiritual, when you know that you have been cornered! Man, make up you mind! You cant have it both ways! If its spiritual, then Jesus in the Bible never existed in the flesh! You cant be a boss in the spiritual and trying to explain to us in the flesh. Omo boy, you cant hide.

@Sleek29

3. Grammatical errors: Arabic scholars point out errors in Surahs 2:177, 192; 3:59; 4:162; 5:69; 7:160; 13:28; 20:66; 63:10, etc.

4. Linguistical errors: Even though the Qur'an claims to be in pure Arabic (12:2; 13:37; 16:105; 4l:44; 42:7), it has foreign words.

5. Scientific errors: sun in muddy pond (Surah 18:86), mountains never shake (Surah 16:15; 21:31; 31: 10; 78:6,7; 88:19)

6. Moral errors: Muhammad justifying the taking of his daughter-in-law (Surah 33:36,38)

Is Quranic Arabic not the text/laboratory/standard of Arabic language? Is it possible that a professor of Yoruba language can correct the Yoruba spoken in Ibadan, Oyo, etc? Forget the accent! Is a professor of English language be able to correct Victorian, Shakespearian, Queens English?

Is the linguistic errors because other languages have similar words? Please man think, we are all humans. A friend of mine who is from Auchi told me that husband is called "Odo mi." The yorubas have a word similar to that. Who copied who between the two?


I am sittingand through the window I can see the Atlantic ocean. I often see the summer dying sunlight hit the water. Its just about 50 to 75 yards from me now. As the sun is setting, and the time is around 8.30 pm, I look out closely and the water surface becomes unclear (Murky). I do this because of Davidylan who have the same unscientific mindset as you. Yet this man is a great student of science. But because it is Quran that says at sunset water surface becomes murky, he refused to perform a simple experiment of nature! All this guy had to do was to walk to a pond, a pool, a river or a lake or an ocean! And he will see what it means! YOu can do this yourself. Let me ask you, at night, if you are not familiar with the elements, can you not walk into a pool of water, say a swimming pool? Haa, yet you will not during the daylight hours. Sunset hour is just between going out period of light of the daytime and the arrival of darkness of night. And the mountain was not what was shaking, but it was the earth without the mountains. The mountains serve as the stabilizer!


Finally Muhammad is not the true father of Zaid, his adopted son! Allah wished to end adoption and He did. You know, my wife was going to adopt a half chinese half black girl. She wanted her to carry my last name and I said no. We are saying that she would have to nurse her so that when she has a son or sons, InshaAllah, none of them can marry her. Adoption, the way you guys do it, is not permissable in Islam. Allah says call them by their father's name! My wife bears her father's name. She wants to add my family name, but she cant take out her family name. This is the highest form of women liberation!


You know that wives are women. And they dont have to burn their undergarments before they are liberated!

@Sleek29: There is no Samaritan as a word in the Quran. And I quote verses 85 through 97 of surah Taha that you are talking about. Please point out Samaritan as a word to identify anyone, for me. You cant do it, can you? Evidently, Samiri is not the same as Samaritan. Openyour eyes man.

20:85to topMuhsin Khan: (Allah) said: "Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri has led them astray."
20:86to topMuhsin Khan: Then Musa (Moses) returned to his people in a state of anger and sorrow. He said: "O my people! Did not your Lord promise you a fair promise? Did then the promise seem to you long in coming? Or did you desire that wrath should descend from your Lord on you, so you broke your promise to me (i.e disbelieving in Allah and worshipping the calf)?"
20:87to topMuhsin Khan: They said: "We broke not the promise to you, of our own will, but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the [Fir'aun's (Pharaoh)] people, then we cast them (into the fire), and that was what As-Samiri suggested."
20:88to topMuhsin Khan: Then he took out (of the fire) for them a statue of a calf which seemed to low. They said: "This is your ilah (god), and the ilah (god) of Musa (Moses), but [Musa (Moses)] has forgotten (his god).'"
20:89to topMuhsin Khan: Did they not see that it could not return them a word (for answer), and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good?
20:90to topMuhsin Khan: And Harun (Aaron) indeed had said to them beforehand: "O my people! You are being tried in this, and verily, your Lord is (Allah) the Most Beneficent, so follow me and obey my order."
20:91to topMuhsin Khan: They said: "We will not stop worshipping it (i.e. the calf), until Musa (Moses) returns to us."
20:92to topMuhsin Khan: [Musa (Moses)] said: "O Harun (Aaron)! What stopped you when you saw them going astray;
20:93to topMuhsin Khan: "That you followed me not (according to my advice to you)? Have you then disobeyed my order?"
20:94to topMuhsin Khan: He [Harun (Aaron)] said: "O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard, nor by my head! Verily, I feared lest you should say: 'You have caused a division among the Children of Israel, and you have not respected my word!' "
20:95to topMuhsin Khan: [Musa (Moses)] said: "And what is the matter with you. O Samiri? (i.e. why did you do so?)"
20:96to topMuhsin Khan: (Samiri) said: "I saw what they saw not, so I took a handful (of dust) from the hoof print of the messenger [Jibrael's (Gabriel) horse] and threw it [into the fire in which were put the ornaments of the Fir'aun's (Pharaoh) people, or into the calf]. Thus my inner-self suggested to me."
20:97to topMuhsin Khan: Musa (Moses) said: "Then go away! And verily, your (punishment) in this life will be that you will say: "Touch me not (i.e.you will live alone exiled away from mankind); and verily (for a future torment), you have a promise that will not fail. And look at your ilah (god), to which you have been devoted. We will certainly burn it, and scatter its particles in the sea."



The christians with their lead glasses. They can see nada!