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Osibajo2023:
leave them, Peter Obi is worst

And the hypocrisy is very annoying.

Osibajo2023:
Including Peter Obi that rigged Anambra via the use of tout

My brother I saw videos of women's fingers being held to thumbprint for a particular candidate. In certain areas in the south east the other candidates scored zero votes and only Obi scored 100%. Haba make we dey fear God.

seanwilliam:
I swear bro.I detest people like that .
Someone that can’t even feed himself COMFORTABLY is talking about insulting beggars in Ibadan .
Tbh in election/football and competitions in general , everyone will always have favorite. But whatever the outcome is, a sensible person will embrace spirit of sportsmanship.
Not that I’ll now turn you to enemy or develop hatred for u cos my favorite didnt win .

I share your sentiments. Anyone who inspires post violence election should be dealt with squarely by the security operatives. Tinubu lost in 2 of the SW states; Obi won in all the SE states, Obi won Lagos and Osun yet they are talking about rigging! Haba! Wetin dem want make Atiku talk?

perpeling22:
Information they say is power. I don't argue but state fact. We get information. My landlord is a bassa man. what did he say? The election was rigged to favour tinubu. Mind you, he is one of the people who are the stakeholders of the kogi election. we ask questions before coming up with a statement. My polling unit for example, the youth, the aged, the woman leader of Apc were all there and they confirmed that Peter Obi won the presidential but other portfolio was shared. You know it, I know it, every other honest Nigerian knows it. one thing I know is this. it is God that gives power. winning is one thing, continuing with the winning is another thing. kogi 2015 and Imo state is a case study.
Habakkuk 1:2-4--write down clearly on clay tablet what I reveal to you...vs4 And this is the message, Those who are evil will not survive, but those who are righteous will live because they are faithful to God. c
If you will look at this broad daylight robbery and calls it election, I am afraid of the future of this country. Like I said earlier, it is God that gives power. if it stands, that is his will. But if otherwise, he will definitely rise in anger. Tankiu

If God rises in anger, He will consume every body who compromised this election from all the parties and the "wicked" will be consumed without excepting any party be it LP, APC or PDP. For our God is a just God.

seanwilliam:
As much as I don’t support any candidate for this election, for the bolded, you’re very stûpid human being.

A very broke and nonentity who wanted to build a 3 bedroom house with 1m is talking about beggars in ibadan.
You that your life needs deliverance self Dey talk.


Îdiotic human being . So since they didn’t support your favorite now, theyre less of a human?
All of una Dey mad self. Una sha sabi incite violence.

Bro I now pronounce you a verbal murderer, hian! What did the guy do that you murdered his career before it even started. Anyway he deserves all the verbal excoriations that he his getting. Very intolerant lout. That #1 million to build 3 br off me.

perpeling22:
That can never be the reason why election was massively rigged. even if Atiku/obi should run together, with what we have seen or are seeing, Apc will still carry the day. Tinubu can never win this election. it was rigged.
Just now I look through my window saw two young Kogites discussing about the election. you will see the bitterness in them. What were they saying? That they knew who they voted for;Obi. But their vote was given to Tinubu. "We don't want him and we are tired of them. we cannot allow that to stand" in their voice. I was just looking at them through my window. it was so pathetic. I pray there should be no pandemonium. Let's call a spade a spade.

How did the 2 Kogites know that their votes were given to Tinubu? How did they identify their votes from the many votes that INEC announced. Are they saying that because they voted Obi, they assumed that every other person did? Or could it be that they were so close to to the polling booth to see who every other person voted for?

Kobicove:
The election has already been won and lost...storming out of the collation will not change anything

The Nigeria man's inability to accept electoral defeat baffles me. I do not think there has ever been any election that wasn't challenged in court in Nigeria.

obembet:
Atiku will win this election

At this juncture, it is almost becoming statistically impossible for Atiku to win. Tinubu already won Jigawa and Kwara states even though Atiku won in Akwa Ibom. The big Northern states are almost done with the exception of Kaduna. So there aren't many Northern states where Atiku can see those huge votes again and so far so good it appears that he is not pulling his weight much in the south because of Obi. If Atiku, Obi and Kwankwanso had remained together in PDP, PDP would have been winning this election by now.

Shattuck:
Abiola might not have gotten a majority but he had like 46 percent of the south eastern vote so they voted for him too, getting 40 something percent of vote in another region is a huge amount. But they obviously voted for Obasanjo.

Certainly they voted for OBJ. And I personally have no objection as to their electoral choices. I only corrected that statistically incorrect assertion the poster made. Your assertions are more representative of what transpired.

Earthquakes:
If you presented Osibanjo, don't you think some Igbos and virtual all Yoruba will vote him?
We know bad market when we see one, same thing we warned you about buhari.
Igbos voted Abiola and Obasanjo against okadigbo and ojukwu, how many Igbo candidates have you voted all your life??
Tribal fuul

Just for the records, Igbos did not vote Abiola

DeLaRue:
If this happens in the US, proceedings to impeach a president that defies the Supreme Court would be swift.

People don't seem to understand that in undermining the Supreme Court, this President has set a very dangerous precedent that goes to the very roots of the country's legitimacy as a constitutional entity. Other Presidents are likely to do same in future.

Once the Supreme Court is defenestrated, we are on the road reckless lawlessness.

Foreign investors will look at the disregard for even the Supreme Court & they will say no, thank you, we would rather invest in another country where Court rulings affecting our contractual and property rights will be respected.

The defenestration of the Supreme court is very disgusting and it is very ominous for our democracy. If it was under a military rule, it could be overlooked, even though it should not be. Precedences have been set and we will how far we can go with this nonsense. People cheering this would later talk about the rule of law but no one builds 'rule of law' on the foundation of 'rule of lawlessness'.

othermen:
It’s the point of the Buhari administration that pushing Nigerians into poverty will curb inflation.

Again, the implementation of the policy is political and not economically grounded.

Monetary policies can address inflation, but even monetary policies (analysts) grounded in economics knows that such monetary policy must be informed by the character that has caused the inflation.

We are going to be plunged into stagflation by this. The policy will not address the inflation, it will affect the country’s production and cause unemployment to further increase.

The CBN fiscal and monetary policies are naive. Economists in our higher education don’t give a damn, they are yet to settle their debt. Nigerians didn’t stand by ASUU, and that intellectual defense line, has no incentive to coherently give a comment. ICAN is spent as well. The current leadership of the institute wants ICAN to be like ANAN , and they are all about giving the certificate for money. They currently have a proposal to allow those GL 14 and above in the civil service accounting roles to pay #1.4 Million, to skip over 90% of the institutes exams and get the certificate. Rather, than maintain rigorous and integrity and hope for a competent administration, they’d prefer to impair the quality of the institute so they can be here and there in a public sector that currently don’t serve Nigerians. The public sector should defend us against the private sector and against international economic adversaries. It should require success in the most rigorous and intellectually exerting experience to hold such position, but it’s not so here. We cannot have CFAs or really grounded ACAs in the sectors and our currency will continue to deteriorate, but even now, the last standing indigenous institutions are willing to trade their credibility for a seat at the table of the powerful incompetent and clueless lots. There is perhaps none, not already infected, to provide coherent advise to the clueless administration.

To become an economic adviser to the CBN governor, it’s not even a question of competence. It’s all, a question of interest.

The CBN must be a government institution for the people. All through the Buhari administration, it wasn’t.

The CBN made billionaires out of bureau de change operators. It may have been the naive viewpoint that the Naira falling extremely hard against the dollar would incentivize folks to produce more for export and so improve the country’s GDP and increase the demand for Naira- thereby strengthening the Naira, but then again as Friedman said, we don’t judge such policies by their intentions but by their results. Nigeria and Nigerians has gained nothing and has lost now and also lost in the long run.

It’s the same with these monetary policies. And why it’s because such policies are naive. It looks like someone making national economic decision just by reading an introductory economic text with no idea, that other economic actors or adversaries are capable of responding and undermining your intentions. Except, the policies are grounded, rigid in implementation, flexible in responding to the adversaries reactions, framed with anticipation of such adversaries responses; except, even the best intended policies will fail.

The corrupt politicians have access to dollars. CBN don’t think dollars can be used to engineer electoral malpractice?? Tinubu or Atiku or Obi will emerge. The lots have an interest in the continuation of the old currency. Emefiele is assured there will be a reversal, but political intents drives him, to make an impact in the short term and at what cost?? Putting the rest of us, pawns in economic jeopardy.

You have spoken with erudition. The moment where I read where Buhari said reducing the velocity of currency in the economy I now better appreciate the poor quality of economic advice that this President has been getting. It is sad that the President equates poverty to corruption reduction.

Authoreety:
Yahoo yahoo is very wrong and should be stopped by all means..

Yahoo yahoo is a key inflator and bad for society!

If only our people know how that the Yahoo yahoo vice leads to inflation. Again bad money chases good money out of the economic system.

Eriokanmi:
There's no doubt about this. Anyone thinking Buhari doesn't know what he's doing on the current situation is a joker. When emefiele said there's no paper to print new notes,many believed him hook,line and sinker.

It didn't take them a week to print the billions of naira which Obaseki attacked the finance minister for, which they all denied before they accepted the fact that they actually printed more naira notes. Buhari doesn't want tinubu, period. Why did he not protest when Lawan was picked to run under the apc? The question is for the urchins to ruminate over.

No sane leader would see the way money was changing hands during the primaries that won't do what Buhari is doing now. The economy wouid be run down should tinubu or atiku win. See dollar rains during primaries. With that, anyone can wonder what they'd turn Nigeria into, should they get there.

Let me assume without conceding that your assertions are true. This assumption is made in good conscience as I do not have facts to negate or support your claims. But be that as it may, anyone supporting this policy because they think it would hurt is only being stupid and I say this advisedly.

First, with this Emefiele's policy what he has done is to magnify the the poverty that has pervaded Nigeria before now. This is so because the ordinary man has been denied purchasing power. Without the purchasing power, you are magnifying whatever monetary inducement any politician will offer the masses. Because the CBN has made the Naira scarce, it has equally made it more valuable. So, in ordinary times where the masses may be induced by say "N5000" hypothetically, the poor man would be induced by say "N2000" because of the scarcity that has shored up the value.

Second, like I did explain to someone on another forum; politicians are not limited to using cash inducement alone. They use packed groundnut oil, foodstuffs, and other gift items which they can still use if push comes to shove hence this policy is not likely yo curb vote buying.

Third, because the wealth creation ability of a nation and in fact any entity including does not depend on the absolute amount that the entity owns at a point in time but on the velocity of money, described as the rate at which money changes hands. What CBN has done to this economy cannot be reversed in the next 5 years.

The fact that Emefiele and Buhari are using this policy to fight perceived political enemies shows their lack of capacities and it explains why the country is the way it is at the moment. If they could not devise better thought plans to curb vote buying in the last 7 years and this is all they could come up with, I just sympathize with Nigerian masses!

UncommonLogic:
Seriously? Can you believe this man?
This is by far the worst CBN Governor EVER.

One of the major problems of Emefiele's appointment is his lack of capacity. In most countries, you do not appoint a non-economist as a CBN governor. Every decision the CBN governor makes, has both macro-economic and micro-economic implications. With the contrived cash crunch, Emefiele has set this country's economy back by about 5 years. With that singular cash policy, the Nigerian economy was literally "paused". Flow of money, either paper or electronic, drives commerce and trade and commercial activities in Nigeria has been very slow lately because of the cash crunch.

SHIVA001:
Are you all dumb. If they don't want to print the notes. Use transfer. They are trying to enforce the cashless policy. Anything above 100 should be transfer. Like abroad.

Pray, how do you enforce cashless without stable infrastructures such as network? I had to bail out my cousin whose child needed medical intervention. Guy, effected a transfer of #72000, he was debited but the hospital was not credited and they refused to attend to his daughter. Abroad where you made reference to, I have never swiped my card for transactions and get an issuer inoperative or issuer unavailable stupid message.

FarahAideed:
You are just suffering from low IQ so you can't see what I am saying..keep supporting nonsense because you think it hurts Tinubu

Some Nigerians are dull fellows with low critical thinking ability and the crab mentality. They don't mind the house caving in with them as their perceived or imagined enemy is destroyed. I have never known you to be pro-Tinubu but see the way they are calling you names now because you disagree with them. We are just a pathetic people. Tomorrow they will call for solidarity when the shoe pinches them!

crestedaguiyi:
A political appointee is challenging a practicing economist

For the records ,please Emefiele is not a practicing economist. He has never been an Economist.

TemmyDayo50:
Pleasure boss. I proceeded to Mayflower secondary school to have my secondary.

Do you also have ties to Ikenne...??

Sure had some ties. Let me refer you to Schmidt Hall, then we can sing "Niggers all work on that Mississippi, Niggers all work while the white man plays, show me that stream call that River Jordan ....ol' man river that ol' man river ....."

@TemmyDayo50 can you relate with that song?

TemmyDayo50:
I remember a competition I went for as far back 1999 or so when I was still in primary school... I represented my school Grace nursery and primary school, Ikenne and the prize then was this lamp.. So many beautiful memories it's bringing...

Nice to see you here representing that ancient city.

advanceDNA:
U take life too hard over unimportant internet petty gist.........roasting is a normal parole.... besides i dont see u when women roast men here..... u do woman wrapper too much.... tuehh!!

Young people who are in their formative years use this forum and if you think roasting of women is normal in the sight of these youngsters who pick their cues for acceptable codes of behaviours from places like this, I do not think so. I chanced in on this topic as I barely have the time for these shenanigans, so I will equally find it deplorable if any lady makes sweeping statements about men.

I just wonder about men who go about maligning women, is it that these guys are from motherless babies home? Like what the hell! For Pete's sake there are terrible people from each gender so need stereotyping on the basis of gender.

Midastorch:
FACT!!!! You went to someone's house they served you what they have and you have the temerity to snap it and post it online? If the girl is on nairaland and she is seeing this nonsense, I beg her in the name of God to leave the OP!!!! He's a stupid and an ungrateful bastard in waiting.... These GenZ generation no get sense at all.. Most of them sha

I hate to make generalized statements but honestly this GenZ generation's attitude leaves much to be desired. Someone old enough to be his mum served him food for free and the only way he could reciprocate that kind gesture is to come here and post the picture of what he was freely given. Utterly disgraceful behaviour!

nepapole:
Only GOD gives sound health.

For Some of you here mocking some who have been unlucky to age well, I hope and pray your situation is better than those you mock when your time comes.

There certain things in life we have no control over.

Obj my guy!

Very sensible comment. I wish some of them would listen to your words of wisdom. Attempting to mock the assumed or real disability of someone is unafrican. How many people here can tell how they will turn out in the next one year not to talk of next 10 years.

Hizzojay:
I knew it will come to this. I was equaling discussing with someone, sometime back, about this scenario of this man pleading “not guilty”. And of cos, he is not guilty of “murder”.

The State Attorney is very stupid for charging him with only one charge; “murder”. Which obviously the accuse will win this case against him. “Murder” wasn’t the best charge that would have been charged against him, but, “Manslaughter”.

“Murder” are always argued to have been premeditated before it was actualized. The prosecution won’t be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accuse planned the crime before he actioned it out on the poor lady.

Nigerian judiciary are just some useless sets of idiots. His lawyer obviously saw the loophole and requested he pleaded “not guilty” cos he knew he’ll be able to defend him.

The preferred allegations would have been “1st degree, 2nd degree and perhaps 3rd degree Manslaughter”. This, he wouldn’t have been able to plead “not guilty” to.

The prosecution is very much in order by charging him for murder. What they have done is to aim at the sky and whatever happens they are sure of landing on the tree. So they went for the crime with the greatest penalty knowing fully well that the least judgement they will get is manslaughter. Lagos State Government has actually won a lot of cases like this. Other state governments are not as active as LASG on issues like this and I wonder why.

It is good that this guy is being prosecuted. However, I must commend the LASG for prosecuting this guy. I am aware that the State Governments have great roles to play in circumstances like these and this is not the first that the LASG has done this, at least from my observation.

One wonders why other State Governments act as though they are helpless when such unfortunate incidences occur in their domains.

jeffoe:
while I doubt the authenticity of the story. we do have a porous boarder system. he could sneak in through one of our land borders. the dss do not have to arrest him before they can file charges if they have any evidence against him. I do not understand the reason behind the media trial

No one can accuse the DSS in this case of any media trial. As a matter of fact, the DSS spokesperson has not spoken much about the case at all. It is the newspapers and the people supporting the CBN Governor that have been in the News most of the times.

I just hope that justice prevails, if Emefiele committed any crime let him face the law and if he is innocent, may God protect him.

wethebest:
What the Bleep is wrong with Nigerians sef. U japa or not japa, if u re not productive, u will remain useless nd poor for life no matter ur location. Even in the US, UK,, Canada e.t.c. We have many jobless, poor and homeless people there. Why always painting ur country black in every given opportunity? U free to japa or stay but jst shut d Bleep up. Nobody is forcing u to leave or stay. Allow to that choose to stay have peace.

That part of your post in emphasis (emphasis mine) is the key that people need to unlock their productivity.

There are benefits and disadvantages associated with most stuffs and same is applicable to 'japaing' or 'not japaing'.

Some people who make their money from remote jobs earning forex may not be keen to 'japa' because it is beautiful to earn in $ dollars and spend in Naira.

Some others have thriving businesses that have grown big enough so much so that going start all over abroad may not make much sense to them. For example, there are people who send their kids money from Nigeria to America or UK for upkeeps. At least, I had a boss who did that until the son graduated and I know of a few people who still do that.

For some other people, the idea of moving to a much more functional society makes sense to them.

The motivating factors for individuals differ. Individuals should figure out what works for them.

But like you said, people should learn to be productive wherever they are: whether home or abroad.

You will find many people on this forum wasting their time posting scores of nonsense posts daily, when they could have figured out how to be more useful to themselves and their society.

So when folks spend all day on different social media fora discussing what nots, how are they suppose to make money? Well, except if they spend that time for content creation or any other online money making venture then it may make some sense.

Emu4life:
If Saraki can be Senator, Oshiomole can.

Saraki became senate president in his second time as a senator (from 2015-2019) he was in the Senate from (2011 to 2015) as a floor member. As a first time senator, Oshiomole would not be able to serve as the Senate president, he will only be eligible by 2027 and that is if he remains in the Senate.

The replies to this original post are sickening and they betray the oppressive tendencies of many Nigerians. Now, I understand that an average Nigerian only complains about oppression if he or she is not one of the oppressors!

Harry deciding to leave his royal duties was a personal decision and why folks are pained about that decision is mind-numbing. His decision to speak up should never be queried as he is a free man who inherited the free spirit of the mum.

ednut1:
you no spend money like that when compared to him wey don pay expensive school fees.

True that. But one or 2 of my colleagues stayed back. Essentially, individual circumstances and personal goals too play a role in such instances. There are no hard and fast rules.

ednut1:
There were notices by most businesses that they would be closed. Everyone one deserves to spend holiday at home with family and loved ones unlike in Nigeria. What you should have done is team up with fellow Nigerians organize food and shayo and have fun. I can bet my hand say you will not return to Nigeria after your studies.

Bros don't bet your hand because you might just lose it, if the guy was like me. I had a fellowship with the American government and I was on a J-1 as a Government visitor. Once, my fellowship ended I got on United Airline back to Naija. People are wired differently.