₦airaland Forum

Karleb:
Something is fishy here. In naija, you can't fight big orgs and win. Too bad!

This was a simple fight for the young lady, trust me if her claims were true several lawyers of Igbo extraction would happily sue JAMB on her behalf pro Bono. That said, JAMB has asked anybody whose relative has an exam slip for this year to come forward because they stopped issuing this type of slip since 2021. No one has disproved this assertion.

I think that this event has taken on a life of its own and the annoying thing is that the public goading on the girl has forced the hand of the authorities to invite DSS to investigate the issue. At this point JAMB should allow the investigation to continue and any wrong doer must be prosecuted to serve as a deterrent to others that may be entertaining such thoughts in the future. We cannot continue to be a country of lawlessness.

Stanweezy:
No be Dem get the site dey can do and undo.


There is every possibility Jamb uttered that little girl's result.


2009 Jamb I wrote the result was 214 my Physics then was 33, after some weeks we heard Jamb is upgrading their score due to error in certain subject and me been sure of my physics and the possibility of me having such a ridiculous score.

I rechecked again, my physics jumps to 67 from 33 and the total score went from 214 to 248. That same result got me admitted into Electrical/Electronics Engineering.


So Jamb is not left out in this scenario and I believe those that wrote Jamb 2009 will testify this.

While I am not disagreeing about the plausibility of your personal experience as you claim, this girl's experience differs from your case. If there was a general issue as it was in your case her case would not be isolated. Jamb has stated clearly that they have stopped issuing slips since 2021 and they have asked anyone who has a similar slip to the girl's own to come out with it. People shouldn't push this girl further into trouble. If she is prosecuted and sentenced she will be alone and all the cyber supporters won't anywhere to help her.

Brendaniel:
I'm only saying that JAMB could have handled it better, the dust it has raised is much....

How else could JAMB have handled this better? The whole institution was accused of tribal bigotry regardless of the fact that the person with the highest scores is still Igbo. Lots of foolish tribal people want to push this girl into trouble. At this point, JAMB should allow a thorough investigation and all parties found culpable should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, so that next time people would learn their lessons of not pushing the limits of their luck.

maasoap:
How can we just move on from this national embarrassment? There should be consequences for the guilty, be it the girl or JAMB officials in charge

Exactly my position.

kingthreat:
If it's a technical error, lets move on.

I honestly disagree with your position on moving on if this problem is due to a glitch. If it is a glitch, I will expect this young girl to be compensated for wrongful accusation and the JAMB registrar would need to step down because he would be guilty of falsely accusing the girl. On the other hand, if investigation shows that she is culpable, then she needs to be prosecuted alongside her co-conspirators; we must learn to attach consequences to people's actions and inactions in this country.

Eriokanmi:
Everyone knows why sanwoolu is doing all these giragira. It's not a must that a particular tribe votes you or your party and that's where tribalism sets in. That's not democracy. Democracy is when 2 siblings joined different parties and voted based on their conscientious analogies. When you see people punishing a tribe for not voting you or party, I wonder what you call that.

Well the baffling thing for me is how you brought Sanwo-Olu into a post talking about the Anambra state Local Govt authorities demolishing shops in Anambra? How does that connect with Sanwo-Olu? Is it that you commented without reading the original post or is there dissonance somewhere? You didn't even address the authorities demolishing the shops in this instance! Is everything okay? Perhaps you read the topic and not the post itself which in itself is inexcusable. I advise you to read the post, perhaps you will spot the dissonance.

Eriokanmi:
This is my advice... Let ibos go and develop the international market, create even more in the south east. Get the fg licence to build a private ports. We will all be begging them to return in neaer future cos our people aren't wired to take up their trading prowess. That's God's gift to their generations. God had endowed each region with unique ideas. We depend on each other to thrive and live. I wonder what they're afraid of. By the time our giovt see our IGR drop sharply, they'd come back to their senses but then, it would have been too late.

It is okay to encourage the Igbos to do everything humanly possible to develop the East and every patriotic Nigerian should support that idea in any way that they can. This original post is about the Anambra state govt demolishing shops and you somehow brought in the SW leaders. What is the nexus?

I wonder what you intend achieving with the way you talk down on your own people at every opportunity. When the South westerners built the first Television in Africa, which the military govt later converted to NTA, who helped them built it? Many other interventions that have now been converted to national properties were built by the South Westerners and that feat can and will still be repeated. The Yorubas have a name for the child that points to his father's house with his left finger.

PHIPEX:
I noticed this nonsense today on my account. This is another policy somersault. This people are only interested in frustrating Nigerians.

How do you peg my daily transfer to 50k meaning we should all return to queuing in the banking hall? Why are we returning to 1990 Banking system instead of going forward?

The policy doesn't make much sense to me either, if it includes token enabled transactions, credit and debit transactions.

nedekid:
I feel you.
God will surely help the righteous.

Amen

texannaija:
Sure!. Dem dey go through “things” too but it can never ever be like the things wey Naija people dey go through. Don’t even compare!.

It is the hasty generalization I pointed out. And take it from me as someone who is privileged to constantly see from both sides, there are many Nigerians out there who would be better off at home back in Naija. And of course there are many Nigerians folks who only need the exposure abroad to thrive.

nedekid:
What are they going through? What difference has happend to them in recent times compared to Nigerians that have lost 100% of their worth in the last 3 weeks?

My brother, you don't care to know. Some folks aren't getting jobs from their agencies anymore like they used to. Of course, competition happened because of influx of migrants. The inflation is biting harder and people are tightening their belts. Do you know what it means to turn up at the gate and they tell you sorry mate, "there ain't no work today". It is not easy anywhere at the moment. Of course, there are many people who have nice paying jobs in the UK just as there are people making their dough back in Naija. It is different strokes for different folks.

My post is not about discouraging Nigerians from migrating though. However, I advise individuals to do whatever works for them. People should be guided by their individual circumstances. Because Naija isn't good for some people doesn't mean that some people aren't steadily cashing out legit.

Nice2023:
If you are living abroad and have some families here in Nigeria,pls don't hesitate to reach out to your brothers,sisters,uncles and aunties here in Nigeria.

The situation on ground is so bad that u see people groaning and talking to themselves,well kitted men and women turned cunny beggars just to meet up with daily activities.

Most families that I know have dump their cars especially here in Abuja. When u move around the city,u will see the situation on ground.

The subsidy removal has affected everything including the way of life of many people here in Nigeria. In my office today,many guys now come to office few times in a week just to cushion the effects of the subsidy removal.

Now that the electricity tariff is about to go up...I wonder how people would cope going forward.

And for those who feel everything is normal,just wait it will soon go round,no one would be spared.

Funny enough, if you know what some abroad people, UK especially, are going through right now

TheGiftedOne:
This country don go. The court has become so useless that it even tries to stop those exposing criminals from doing so. Like the court asked the NYSC DG not to expose Mba in the first place?

Then the culprit is praying that the court prosecutes the person aiding it's judgement. Looks like a movie script. Smh!

Law and order keeps the society floating, restrains people from crime, holds people accountable for their actions. Protects lives and properties. Brethren at this rate, where the political class now runs to the judiciary to do their bidding, we're headed for disaster.

My brother this country can be anyhow. Don't be too quick to judge the Mba guy. I say this advisedly because I have seen several instances of administrative and institutional lapses in this country.

Why is the NYSC hiding under the issue of jurisdiction if they are so sure the NYSC certificate is forged.

egoldman:
So what is renunciation of citizenship by adult?

Very good question. Issues like these would help our people to understand the laws that govern them.

The process of renunciation of Nigerian citizenship by birth contains multiple steps. Renunciation is not done by taking the oath of allegiance of another country alone.

After taking the oath of allegiance of the other country, the person seeking to renunciate his/her citizenship by birth will write a letter of application to the Nigerian authorities with evidences documenting the naturalisation of the new country (this includes a letter signed by the officials of the other country whose citizenship is being sought). The applicant will also pay an application fee of #50,000. Thereafter, the Nigerian authorities will process the application.

blaise26abj:
Interesting . These are things that should be well defined and reviewed . It is bad . We are opening ourselves up for spies or Foreign entities to hold positions of power .

Imagine a Nigerian -American recruited and funded by CIA or any other foreign government can become the president of Nigeria so that they can exploit our resources . That’s very scary.

The decided position of the law is what the poster you quoted just stated. Perhaps the constitution needs to be reviewed but the politicians whose children are mostly affected by the dual citizenship issue aren't likely to favour an amendment. Because doing so would mean cutting off their children from seeking political offices in Nigeria.

aestake:
Let the court determine it then. Na criminal s dey rule you and you are happy.

If the constitution says otherwise who are my to misconstrue it. I simply discussed what I found out about the position of our constitution. If the lawmakers amend it, then I have no problem with. We should look at these things without emotions.

JetStar:
Haha, ignorance is not an excuse kindly read the constitution and educate yourself.

Thank you sir, the non-ignorant one. The court will soon make a pronouncement and I will remind you of this post. Some of you are so uncouth, lousy and uncultured that it is not too difficult to envisage the kind of lives you live.

Armaggedon:
If he did not renounce the US citizenship, he is a goner.

My brother the law is an ass. This line of thought was explored when they PMB was looking for how to nail Saraki who holds a dual citizenship. It was because there is a lacuna in our constitution that Saraki escaped. Aodoanka the former Attorney General of the federation and many other learned Silks have argued this issue in the past.

Didi2d:
Ok, Hamzat made it public himself before elections. Is that what you are saying?

Oh, yes. He made it public. Go over the cross-examination of the LP witness (the US immigration expert) and you would deduce that much.

senatordave1:
Truth is tinubu won

As a matter of fact I and my family members voted for Tinubu.

Didi2d:
I think our law disqualifies anyone with dual citizenship

Unfortunately our constitution seems not to disqualify people with dual citizenship, where the person is a Nigerian by birth. As a matter of fact, it was because of that lacuna that Hamzat was emboldened to make that disclosure of dual citizenship prior to the election.

Well the factors that have compelled the UK to loosen her border for Nigerians in particular and Africans in general are diverse. Researches have shown that two of the chief causes that were discovered as being responsible are BREXIT and COVID-19.

Prior to Brexit, the majority of non UK citizens that worked with NHS were EU nationals. With the Brexit situation, the migration laws and labour laws changed coupled with the fact that the Europeans that worked with NHS were leaving the UK because of the uncertainty attached to Brexit, a shortfall in the healthcare personnel arose. When you throw in the mix, the humanitarian crisis occasioned by COVID-19 in the face of already overworked NHS staffers, it became imperative for the UK to open her borders to more non-EU nationals especially from low wage countries like Nigeria.

Judolisco:
D only good thing is dat d people abroad send back money.... D money can help drive our economy....

We are not using our resources both human and natural resources to develop our nation.... D literal meaning of Japa is to go and never come back..... Back then we go abroad study and come back to develop our nation... D country was still good then... But now it's d other way around

People have no intention of returning in 20 yrs time from now you'll start seeing a lot of Nigerian names especially in d UK..

So Mr Peter obi is very wrong on dis.. He is only supporting it because his wards are direct beneficiaries

I agree with your submission and I will only add the following:

1. The average Nigerian japarian, these days, is migrating mostly for economic reasons and gets employed mostly in low skilled jobs (care giver jobs, comes to mind) in the West. Making it difficult to transfer his expertise to Nigeria for any use.

2. The few that travel via the student visa route to the UK are mostly adults and only took that route to access visa and not for educational development. This explains why many of them farm out their assignments and dissertations to be written by 3rd parties. This implies that Nigeria shouldn't expect any knowledge transfer from this set of people.

N3TRAL:
AI must be programmed to comprehend Nigerian accent before it can work in Nigeria effectively.

The demeanor of the robot showed that it couldn't understand what the woman was asking. Without an alternative option of touch, the robot would malfunction 9 out of 10 times anywhere outside North America or Western Europe.

You don't need to programme AI to understand the Nigerian accent. You only need to train the AI model with different Nigerian accents and it would learn to comprehend. Perhaps training the robot with Nigerian accents is what you meant though.

Angelfrost:
Yeah... But it is intelligent and mentally sound of Amobi Ogah to ask someone going through legit due process in court to withdraw a valid case because it is not in the interest of the sitting president!!!

This your submission is different from what the lawmaker said which I quote below:

“And that is why I always say, whoever that is on that seat, give the person that support until either court says otherwise or God says otherwise”

From the quote immediately above there is no where the lawmaker suggested that Obi should withdraw his case from the tribunal.

SmartyPants:
Every Nigerian lost a certain percentage of their net worth following the devaluation. It's just basic - your naira wealth would have been calculated using the official rate of 460 thereaouts - now that that rate is gone, your naira denominated wealth will be evaluated at about 750 to the dollar.

Well, in the past too when the official rate was 460 Naira to a dollar too, the whole of the country was losing too because CBN was subsidizing it by spending the national purse to defend the naira against the dollar. So, either way something must give. However, we have choice of allowing individuals to lose as against allowing the whole country's economy to lose.

gawu1:
When the news broke out here on nairaland about the demolition, majority of these Christian bigots and fools lamenting and abusing the governor now were happy and applauded the action because they too harbour hatreds for Ganduje. In fact, some even suggested that the governor should go ahead and erase all Ganduje legacies even though they are not from the State to know what politics is being played by the demolition.
But now that the reason the governor gave for the demolition is not appealing to them, these same idiots have turned against him.
It's better if people stop dabbling in what they have no knowledge about.

I observed that too. Some people are ready to cut their noses to spite their faces.

dealslip:
Ex May for live!!!! No wonder we share same thoughts

Confirmed!!!

dealslip:
The way you handled the situation was the best way to have handled. If you had allowed sentiments to becloud your judgement, he will break somebody's head one day, then you will be faulted for going against HR policy on such issues. It can be sabotaging if we place bad attitudes above productivity. Some people might have seen you as harsh then but now even the boy will have realized you did him a lot of good and now he is better for it. Your kind of attributes is what Nigeria needs - objectivity

By the way, where did you learn of the quote on your signature, "The height that great men achieve.......". It was one of the quotes my late mentor made us to memorize and recite alongside "Four score and twenty years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty ...". I don't want to believe that we had the same mentor!

dealslip:
I totally agree with you. Not leaving them to learn from their mistake was the OPM guy's undoing. You can't vilify Chicken Republic for enforcing work place rule then expect to be treated differently by the same boys.

You are spot on. I had the misfortune of dealing with a similar issue in the past. It turned out that a young man (production staff) had fought with a colleague who provoked him. I liked this guy because he was hardworking although he had a bit of street toughness. The HRM recommended their sack based on the staff handbook and I had to sign off because refusing to do so would have set a precedence and the gentleman wouldn't have learnt his lessons. Before he was served his letter, I had a one-on-one with him and told him he would be getting his letter but shouldn't take it personal and I made suggestions to him on how he could become a better person. We have been in touch and the guy is doing pretty well and he remains grateful.

dealslip:
So many things were wrong from the onset.

The first time I heard that some security guards were sacked because they danced on duty, as an employer I felt the action was justified. How do you dance on a duty that required alertness and focus? But due to sentiments and victim mentality, many people castigated Chicken Republic and called them all sort of unprintable names. The OPM guy also jumped on the clout, justifying the silly attitude of the boys, as a MOG, he ought to have chastised them but he made it look like they were victimized and rewarded their irresponsible actions. He is now the newest victim of the boys, they have brought negative attention to him, to the point of him so provoked, he is laying curses on them. He didn't tell them the truth about their bad work ethics, those boys became privileged and thought their actions were right. They feel they have attained star status and would not want to return home even when the man said he could not afford their upkeep in Cyprus anymore. Since they have become stars, let their fans donate money for their upkeep. The lesson here is, never justify bad behavior, it's a monster that comes back to bite the enabler.

You are a reasonable fellow. Most Nigerians lack discipline and they hate enforcement of rules. An employer of labour fired her hired hands for dancing whilst on duty and then some people turned these boys to emergency celebrities and therefore failed to allow the boys to learn from their mistake.

The OPM Pastor got onto the fray riding on the back of the social media frenzy. Now the boys have shown that they haven't learn from the earlier lessons by trying to use social media to 'blackmail' the Pastor like they once did to Chicken republic.

Before gold becomes valuable it goes through fire in the furnace. It is important to learn from one's mistakes to become better. As long as the lesson is not life threatening it can only make one stronger. Pity parties do more damage than good.