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calabardick:
I don't support abortion.
Stop calling her your fiancée to gain Favor here, she's your girlfriend.

So you want to frustrate her future with your stupid sperm? What is she abort her exams an keep the pregnancy tomorrow you start talking nonsense? If she chose to abort the pregnancy and further her studies, so be it, you can't force it on her. Her future first.

If you want a child GO AND MARRY.

To me having a child you can't take care of is worse sin than abortion.
It's absurd to insist on "keep the pregnancy" when the guy have to consult his family even to have a small engagement . I cry when I see videos of thousands upon thousands of almajiris line up the streets of kano.

I had the same situation with someone close to me. She got admitted into the Navy but discovered she was pregnant for her boyfriend before the training. The boyfriend also insisted on keeping the baby and going to the family to do "small introduction". I advice her to terminate the pregnancy, since it's is the early days. Early stage pregnancy are relatively safe than late term pregnancy. Recommended a gynecologist from a reputable hospital (most gynaecologists perform abortions, but it's very expensive and off the books). It was done without out any issue whatsoever. She completed her training, got into the Navy, went for a university degree while still in the Navy and has been promoted rapidly since. See got married late last year and expecting their first baby this april.

Imagine where she would have been if she had the baby and the good for nothing guy came to do the small engagement. I am sure sufferings would have been the portion of both mother and child.

We must learn to be pragmatic and don't get obsessed by this moral religious self righteousness.

Here is a video of the shear number of almajiris in northern nigeria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDdJzxFbQ

Anyone that don't feel the pain and sufferings of unwanted children does not have empathy.

seankafor:
you just nailed it all.
That's why I love those Ghanaians.. they sometimes bypass reality and pushes their patriotism to extreme irrespective of who they are dealing with..
They are ready to defend their country to the bone marrow, whether they are right or wrong. You can even atrest to that with few of them on nairaland here.

Patriotism goes beyond many things..
The way people bash the president on front page threads..sometimes I avoid comments due to the kind of hate speech been decapitated there.. it's saddening.

There is a huge difference between criticism and hate speech

I also love the igbos for their never say die spirit and their entrepreneurial spirit. Their greatest undoing is the lack of a recognisable unifying leader. The igbos don't like being subservient to a single leader, which is a huge disadvantage in negotiating in politics both nationally and internationally. This is why there is no single demand or goal, but multiple. Besides, who do you negotiate with? Kanu and his group want secession, the politicians wants federal power and influence, the traditional leaders want restructure and resource control.
As had been asked before, why can the fives states come together and solve some pressing problems like road, power, and security? Why can't they organize and create their own Amotekun?

sunnysmile80:
@ Pryme: Thank you for your submission. You have said it all. I like your perspective towards relationship. Your statements reflect your level of maturity. God bless you. I really don't understand how a woman would lose anything by having sex in a relationship. And the mentality of a man leaving after having sex is very wrong. If he wants to leave, he will leave with sex or no sex. Not having sex before marriage does not make the people involved in a relationship responsible or irresponsible.

It is called relationship, a romantic relationship, an erotic relationship. It is called dating. Anyone who dies not want sex before marriage should not start any dating relationship whatsoever. They should just meet each other and get married within a week or a month. That's what our forefathers and mothers usually do in the old days, they barely know each other, they just get introduced to each other and they get married. Some of them don't even live in the same location, they would meet onece and then get married.They don't pass through dating phase.Fortunately for then some of them were able to live together for the rest of their lives either successful or unsuccessfully with ether happiness or sorrow. They were full of patients and endurance that time.

But now, time and things have changed. U need to date to get to know each other, and part of what u need to know from the person you want to marry is his/her sex life.

I decide not to sound religious because I'm a realist.

If u don't want sex before marriage, then don't go into dating. Very simple .

And this idea of women believing that when they don't receive money from a man then they are not expected to have sex with him is absurd. I believe only prostitutes engage in sex in exchange for money.

Some women may decide not to have sex before marriage because they are not sure if the man will stay with them in case of unexpected pregnancy, then use condom or other preventive measures. Simple. But this idea of no sex before marriage is unreasonable.

You kiss and curdle a man and u said no sex before marriage? That's called pre-intimacy , as for as I am concerned by kissing and curdling you have started making love with him already.

You are just lucky that the man is inexperience/amateur, if you engaged in a pre-intimacy with an experienced man you won't be able to resist the rest of the package. In fact you will be the one that will UnCloth yourself by yourself ; you will even be the one the will UnCloth him. But I guess the man in not experienced enough as to know how to make a woman lost control in ecstasy.

How many times can I like this post? I give 1000 likes. You hit the nail on the head and then nail the coffin, Dead and buried, nothing more to add.

A no sex before marriage romantic relationship sounds absurd. Why not ask your parents to arrange the marriage as in the days of old, you meet on the day of the marriage or just before and then have sex on your wedding night? In laws outside the bedroom waiting for the blood stained bedsheets and all.

How exactly do you agree to enter into a no before marriage relationship?

I see a fine lady and I approach her with the usual toasting lines like, hello babe, sorry Sister, I have been noticing you all these days and I think you are a very beautiful lady, I like your smile, your personality. ...... you know the rest. In conclusion, the guy would say, I want us to have a relationship, become boyfriend and girlfriend or lovers.

In response the girls says, I have noticed you too and I think you are responsible and cute too. I agree, let's give it a try, but.... no sex before you marry me.

Or will the girl agree to a relationship, but later give her conditions when the guy want to kiss and press something?

Brightgem:
If you yourself had any dignity, any common sense, any self respect, any values, any parental teachings, any good guidance, then you would have understood my post on one hand and on the other hand you would have not stooped low to use MIA KHALIFA as an example.

But I don't blame you, this generation doesn't know how to define success, that's why you can use pornstars or a scammer as an example of success.

90% of people don't have sense, as a friend of mine said.

You lack decency or intellectual capacity to hold a discussion with me. So dey your lane of pornstars abeg. This is my final exchange with you.

See person talking about intellectual capacity. A person whose claim to dignity is only in her virginity (that's even assuming she is one).

You think you are more successful, educated or more intelligent that Mia Khalifa? In terms of money (or prosperity as you guys like to call it), she is worth over $3 million. How much are you worth? In terms of relationships, she is currently engaged to a celebrity chef, to be married this summer. You can bet the marriage will be a media event.
I am not exactly supporting or promoting mia khalifa's lifestyle, what I am against is imposing your morals and beliefs on others. I used her to show an example of 'who will marry you will marry you, virgin or not.'

KingEzo:
Hello Nairalander,

please I need your advice. I am 31 years and my fiancee is 29 years and we have been dating for the past four years.

She discovered that she's pregnant on new year's eve. We discussed the issue throughout the new year and we agreed to keep the pregnancy that she's going to write her nursing Council exam later. I told her that she should give me some time so that I can go and discuss with my parents and organize introduction then do the engagement in a little way but she said her mom won't be happy with her that she needs to do big wedding because she's the first child of her mom.

She later told me that she's going to inform her parents before taking any step. To my surprise she called me this evening that she is going to terminate the pregnancy because her family has been raining insults on her since she got home.

She said her grandma is even coming to the city with her so that she can terminate the baby. But I told her that I didn't support it that I can't terminate pregnancy, I told her that she can write the council exam after delivery but she insisted.

Sir-Ma should I support this their action?

Abeg explain the redded quote for me, what do you mean by "I told her that she should give me some time so that I can go and discuss with my parents and organize introduction then do the engagement in a little way?"

How much time do you need to discuss with your parents and then organize introduction ? Introduction for god sake, not even marriage. So the lady is supposed to suspend her education and career while waiting for you to propose engagement.

If I am the girls parents, I would personally contact a very competent gynecologist and flush out the fetus. And then threaten to disown my daughter, if she as much as answer a phone call from the useless guy.

Brightgem:
Abeg stand your ground. It's not any body's bloody business whether you are virgin or not.

Is that even a man, if he can't be disciplined with the thing in the middle of his legs? Or you think giving him sex will keep him? you'll look back and wonder what happened when he still leaves you, you'll be more heart brokened.

Pls keep your dignity and let the manipulator leave. You no do be you no do. Sex with a man that's not your husband means you are ready to lose your dignity. Those who don't agree, argue with your ancestors.

So to you a woman's dignity is tied to whether she is a virgin or not? That's 1st century mindset. In the 21st century where women chart their own destinies without depending on men, their dignity is tied to their character, education and career.
Those that feel their dignity is tied to their virginity better become a nun.

Even Mia Khalifa married a young successful bachelor.

pryme:
No you did not,
Its obvious he now wants sex and you don't.
Call off the relationship.
If you still want the relationship be prepared to have sex with him.

No need to complicate things.
It is what it is.

You get husband for her? I hope you know that women have "best before date", it becomes increasingly difficult for women to find husband's (not to talk of child bearing difficulties) after her early 30's.

There are many mid age ladies running from church to church looking for miracle husband and miracle of Sarah.

franzis:
Sex or no sex , a guy who wants to stay will stay and the one that wants to leave would leave ...

No mind them. Oloshos de see husband before these pretending "holy mary" sisters.
If you want fvck the guy, fvck him. If you don't want to fvck him, then leave him. It's wrong using sex as a condition for marriage. Sex before or after marriage does not determine a successful marriage. Your character and your other inate values that determines whether he marries you or the marriage is successful.

Trump obviously hates Obama for reasons best known to him. Throughout the Obama presidency, Trump attacked Obama, both in person and his policies. It even got worse after he became president. Hardly a day goes by without Trump mentioning Obama. Some say it's due to jealousy, as Obama is as popular in the US as Trump himself. In the survey that came out last week they were tied on popularity.
Outside the US, it a no contest, outside maybe Saudi Arabia and Israel, Obama is almost worship in foreign countries, while Trump is hated. The straw that broke the camels back was when Mitchell Obama was voted the most admired woman in the world, when his wife Melania did not even register on the scale.

So you can understand how furious Trump must have been as he spent most of his speech on the Iran's missile attacked on US based criticizing Obama. He blame Obama for everything except launching the missiles itself.

I want to show a video where Obama took on Trump while he was still president. He threw jibes at Trump's in a cool calculated and intelligent manner. Obama is a master orator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJpWOY3r18

Dpharisee:
Igbos are not castigating the Yoruba nation for this laudable move, imagine the reaction when Igbos established BSS few years ago to protect their communities.
Restructuring means that all regions should be allowed to have state Police and not this proxy security outfits

Why are you comparing grapes to grapefruit? You mean south east governors, traditional rulers and political leaders set up a security outfit and Yorubas people reacted negatively?

9jahotblog:
OPERATION AMOTEKUN: Things You Need To Know About the New Western Security Scheme

1. Each state donated 20 vehicles each, making 120 Amotekun vehicles. The vehicles would be dispatched to the respective states.

2. The headquarters will be at Ibadan, Oyo State.

3. The size of the troops would be determined by what each of the six states had capacity for and based on the level of
security threat.

4. Every state government will fund the troops in its state. It is the capacity of a state that will determine the size of troops it needs.


5. The idea behind Operation Amotekun is in a bid to localizing policing Salary of personnel will not be below the minimum wage.

6. Their operation will be seamless. If something is happening near the Oyo border, the Ogun Amotekun can cross into Oyo
and vice versa.

Good development, I have been wondering what the Yorubas are waiting for all these years, allowing fulani herdsmen to take over their lands while all they do is wail. If the Hausa fulani north can form HISBAH Police and impose sharia law on non muslims, then the Yorubas (and igbos) has a right to form AMOTEKUN police and enforce a cow ban on Yoruba lands and restrict the movement of fulani herdsmen.

I don't understand how the Hausa Fulanis and thing they can impose one law in northern Nigeria and deny the same law in southern Nigeria.

But here someone threatened to go to Abuja and bring Buhari's head on a plate. The same people that condemned the attempt to arrest the person are the same people that support the arrest of someone threatened to kill Trump. It a wonder how they can switch on and off their cognitive ability at will.

falopey:
The report was made to their gullible citizens just to save face and after they had already signaled to American troops through Iraqi government that their base would be bombed that night. Then all American troops evacuated before the bomb.

However, Iran has to tell some lies to its people to pacify them of course

And you think Trump did not save face?
This is what Trump said just one day before the attacks;
“Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.... targeted 52 Iranian sites, some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD,”

Trump never specify American lives, he said any Americans or American interests.

I said it from the beginning, the crisis is all demo, to whip up emotional sentiments. Both Trump and Khomeini's popularity were waning at home and both need an audio crisis to rally the people around their leader. Both Trump and Khomeini are not ready to fight an actual war, the proxy war is achieving all their aims. I became convinced Trump does not want to fight a war, after the Iranians shot down a US drone about 3 months ago. Trump threatened fire and brimstone (as usual) but stood down because over 150 Iranian (not american) lives will be involved.

I said it before the crisis started, it's all demo. The US nor Iran are not interested in a war. Khomeini and Trump are very unpopular at home and both need to generate a crisis to look tough and unite against a "common enemy".

It worked perfectly for Khomeini as the country is now United and people have forgotten their grievances. About Trump, I am not so sure. Democrats and independents are still skeptical about the reasons for assassinatiing Soleimani, and Trump's approval ratings has not moved from its traditional 40 to 45%.

Most Nigerians don't understand international politics and how leaders use their lives to play chess.

Daviddson:
You don't know as much as you claim to know. The guy is completely right. They always draft for war whether they have millions of soldiers or not. You think they'll send all their already trained soldiers to war just like that without having a reserve? Both ladies and men are drafted, no matter how rich your family is.

You have time to be educating people who choose to remain ignorant. They think the US military will deploy already trained soldiers to the front lines. During the gulf wars, some Nigerian youth that got US citizenship were deployed to Iraq less than 6 months after becoming citizens.

Besides the recruits through draft, retired veterans would be called as reserves to man positions left by soldiers deployed overseas, or you think US will leave itself undefended because it is fighting a war overseas.

Randy100:
Your ignorance is raised to power ten. As it stand now American has 3 million soldiers and there is no need to draft young men into the military now.

So says an ignorant person residing in a remote corner of africa. The real Americans are afraid that a war with Iran can lead to a draft.

US government agency website crashes amid panic over military draft

In the aftermath of the US drone strike that killed the Iranian general Qassem Suleimani in Baghdad, the phrase “World War III” began trending on social media.

More startlingly, a US government agency which registers young men for a potential military draft saw its website crash.

“Due to the spread of misinformation,” the Selective Service System (SSS) tweeted on Friday, “our website is experiencing high traffic volumes at this time … We appreciate your patience.”

It added that it was “conducting business as usual” and emphasised that a return to the draft is not imminent: “In the event that a national emergency necessitates a draft, Congress and the president would need to pass official legislation.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/04/us-military-draft-iran-selective-service-system

lurex2rhyme:
B4 not na my mouth u want hear am. D even do some Nigerian na. Buhari ist year in office wen he wanted to take 70 persons to un assembly us no reject some people? Wat did we do. We allowed it because is their country.

You people can argue off point. What concerns Buhari wanting to take 70 people to the UN with the refusal of US to grant Iranian foreign minister visa to attend the UN? Are we talking about the number of people the foreign minister want to take to the UN?

Randy100:
Ewu. America is a country where people love their country. He did not force anybody to be drafted in the military.

False.
There is so much arrogance in ignorance being shown on nairaland.
During a war, all able bodied men between 18 and 25 are drafted into the military. It is called the draft and it is compulsory. You are given an 8 week military training and sent of to the war front.

Trump, a young athlete, avoided the Vietnam draft by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

PatriotTemidayo:
How do you know his hands are dirty?


Does Dangote have 20heads? Who says his wife can do a business worth Billions of dollars?

If his hands are not dirty, how come his wife could not explain to US authorities how she came about $16 millions?

emeijeh:
And there are a lot of billionaires there?

And there are no lots of billionaires (in dollars ) here?

specco:
Which country would you want to rise? Iran, Iraq, Syria, Russia,, Libya Can't even imagine the world then. You dont value what you have until you lose it.

China or Russia.
US has only been the world's superpower for less than a 100 years, Rome was the world's super power for close to 500 years. Greece was the world's super power for more than 700 years.

lurex2rhyme:
My brother that un building is in d territory of the united states of american. like it or hate it, they regulate who gets into their territory n who does not.

Then you and Trump are telling us that because the UN is housed in the US, then the US is the UN.

wowcatty:
The UN will have to get the hell out of the US then! What rules of engagement are we talking about here, that will allow the US to open its door for the same govt that just threatened the potus? The UN is really not adding any value to the US and obsolete, good the organization is broke now and will soon re-evaluate what it stands for. The toothless UN couldn't do anything to Iran for not following through on security council resolution that banned Soleimani from leaving Iran, yet want to do something about the US protecting itself, I don't think so! Anyway the UN has its hand full right now and will think twice before getting involved and give Trump reason to pull out of the useless UN, after all, its building in Geneva or wherever it is big enough to house the dumb congregation of globalists.

The UN is useless and yet has been able to keep the world relatively peaceful for over 70 years. Without the UN, I am sure the world would have experienced a nuclear armageddon, which you most likely will not survive. Remember the role the UN played in averting a nuclear war between the US and Russia in the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. Remember what led to the formation of the UN after the failure of the league of nations.

Trump and his supporters can be arrogant and destroy the UN because it feels it has amassed deadly weapons. But when a world war starts even the US will suffer.

emmachukwu99:
For now Iran is a threat to the US and such measures are for security purposes... unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it.

So you expect Iranian foreign minister to pose a threat to the US, between JFK airport, the UN building and the Iranian embassy a few meters away, for the one or 2 days that he will be in new York.

Since you say Iran is a threat to the US, why has Trump not expel all Iranian diplomats and close down their embassy in the US?

MrMcJay:
Why is the Iranian minster crying for American visa? He wants to eat Big Mac in New York.

Let him stay in Iran and say whatever he wants to stay. Worst case scenario, let them add him to WhatsApp group let him talk there.

The Iranian minister is not interested in going to US, he is interested in going to the UN. The UN just happened to be in the US.

madridsta007:
It will be tough.

They can easily use a representative, one who has an American and an Iranian visa and is an Iranian nationalist.
There are going to be countless of them.

Will the representative be an official of the Iranian government or a random Iranian picked from the streets?

This move has destroyed the very basis of why the UN was created. The UN was supposed to discuss issues of conflict between members to avoid going to war. It was created after WW2. So how can Iran present it's grievances to the world, and have an opportunity to discuss with the US if it cannot even enter the UN because, it is housed by US?
The UN general assembly needs to be moved to a less war hungry country like Switzerland or it be scrapped altogether.

SpecialAdviser:
I agree with you. But my question is "Why is it that Islam is always seen as the useful religious tool?"

Religion itself is a useful tool for political domination. Christianity also employed violence during the middle ages and during colonisation. Now they use more subtle means.

Many people dont know the origin of the killing of Soleiman. Iran has been planting shia militia proxies to somount Sunni militias. Then they started bombing American interests.

It's all about projecting national interests. The US project national interests by arming and training various governments or sections within the government and label them allies -ie Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Iraq. Iran uses religion, they support Shia groups, and then train and arm them to promote their own interests. Since both Iran and The US are trying to project their influence within the same space, clashes and conflicts are inevitable, and hence the proxy wars. Iran's proxies bombing US interests in the middle east, while US bomb Irans proxies and interests.

So the war is all about Sunni vs Shia again.

Part of it.

Trump's bombing of an Iranian government official can be seen as a terrorist action. Iran has never targeted US officials. Yes, us soldiers (and iranian soldiers) and contractors die in the course of the proxy wars, but no direct confrontation had involved government officials.

The US has no right to bomb Iranian general as there is no formal declaration of war. Even though the US and Iran are involved in a proxy war, the US and Iran are not at war, and the killing was not carried out in a battle field but at an airport. It's like the Iranian leaders ordering the bombing of the US joint chief of staff at the Mexican airport when he visits Mexico. The whole world would term that a terrorist action.

Shibaraba:
When person beat your sister you wan go fight when you reach the house you meet 3 men Wey big like yokosuna na that time your vex go come deflate you go come dey ask "wetin she do".

Iran threaten France show support, UK show support, US dey, Israel auto support. Intimidation Don enter. They will be cowed to submission. The war is over before it even started.

Which France and UK showing support? They are just being diplomatic. Nobody, not even Israel or Saudi Arabia (Irans worst enemies) supports the assassination of Soleimani. You think if Israel wanted to assassinate Soleimani, they would not have done it all these years?

This is General Pompeo complaining about lack of support from Europeans -

Pompeo: European response to Suleimani killing ‘not helpful enough’

Mike Pompeo has expressed disappointment with European reaction to the US killing of the Iranian general Qassem Suleimani, suggesting the UK, France and Germany have not been sufficiently supportive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/04/mike-pompeo-european-response-to-suleimani-killing

Trump is just trying to blackmail it's allies into a war with Iran

nototribalist:
Wetin we do na?

Why will everything Islamabad affect Nigeria, are we now a moslem country?

Because everything Israel and the US affect Nigeria. As some Nigerians are ready to die for Israel's cause, others are ready to die for Iran or Saudi Arabia's cause.

philip0906:
No one gives a sh1t about Iran. Iran is completely useless in the mix. They have no value to add to first world countries so no one will stick their necks out for them.

You are just yarning rubbish. If Iran is completely useless, which country is completely useful then? Nigeria, Cameroon, Zimbabwe ? Iran/Iraq was the cradle of western civilization.

We are not talking about sticking necks for them, let macron, Johnson or Merkel send troops to fight Iran on the side of the US and watch public reaction. Who do you think will allow his son or family member to go and fight a war solely started by Trump.

kratosonofzeus:
how do you know they were lying about saddam Hussain issues, were you there, what you don't know is that, these u.s has alot of classified files and details which are not public they keep it classified, so tell me how do you know Suleiman was innocent after he allegedly involved in the murdering of Americans indirectly, you can't shit on U.S and get away with it, besides he has been on the U.S watchlist for so many years

You people reason through your ass just to support all Trump's actions no matter how stupid it is. Trump and Pompeo are now bringing in utterly ridiculous excuses for the assassination.
There was a 9/11 commission, that investigated everything related to the 9/11 attacks, they found zero links between saddam Hussein and Al qaeda, in fact he did not even allowed al qaeda in Iraq. Same with Soleimani, there was no link of Soleimani to all qaeda, in fact general Soleimani helped the US fight the Taliban in the early days of the Afghan war.

philip0906:
Now the chickens are coming home to roost. I was telling some nairalanders that when push comes to shove, ALL American allies will rally round the USA.

France have already shown support, now the UK. Germany and co will soon join in. It is normal for friends (in this case allies) to disagree, but that bond cannot be seperated.

You know what this means? Iran now know that they are on a long thing The world Powers are already against them, they have been boxed to one corner already.

It will now be folly on their part, to make any suicidal move

Forget support half heartedly support shown by the leaders of Germany, France and UK, their parliaments and people will not support a war with Iran instigated by Trump. Besides they all don't like Trump, they are only tolerating him as US president.
These leaders have to play the balancing game. They can't show too much support for US because their people don't like Trump and they can show any support for Iran because that would annoy Trump. Remember, the US is still critical to the defense of Europe through NATO.