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CeterisXVII:
Oga, how many cities in the world plan low income settlements next door to high income residential areas? Name them.

London has social housing program that build houses for the poor.

New York through the New York City Housing Authority. They built housing units for the poor sometimes called The projects.

The problem is that in Nigeria, there are very poor urban control methods, put in place to prevent such things. The issue is NOT elite bias, but a problem of illegal squatters that has spiraled out of control!

I agree that Nigeria has very poor urban planing before you even start talking about controls.
There is a strong elite bias to governance in Nigeria and it applies to all levels of governments. The government's never consider programs that benefits the poor. Even when they purport to have social programs for the poor, it's either never implemented or poorly implemented. A good example is the health centres. I took my son to one once and the services were very poor and they still charged exorbitantly. I threatened the matron that I will petition them to the Lagos State government. The begged me and gave me half of my money back.
Let me add that the last government that I can remember that did not have an elite bias was the Jakande administration. Jakande build schools and housing for the poor all over Lagos, even on high value lands. He built secondary schools in Osborne, Else Femi Pearse, opposite mobil headquarters in V/I, etc. He built Jakande estates all over Lagos.

I have some cousins that attended Jakande schools and they are very successful members of society today.

The shanties in those areas spring up, from the development of houses and blocks of flats in those same areas.

Artisans, builders and technicians employed to build those flats, often build shanties on unoccupied land, which they use as their temporary quarters when they are engaged to carry out construction duties or activities, on adjoining plots.

But once those houses or flats are fully built, and their job "contract" ends, these artisans refuse to leave their temporary abode, and instead decide to convert such shanties into their permanent residence, especially if other building activities are still springing up around that area.

They stay there, hoping to find additional work, or ply their skills in those new developments, that are coming up.

The problem usually goes unnoticed, as long as construction works are still going on in that area. But once the construction works end, then the shanties where those artisans live, then stick out like a sore thumb.

The sad thing is that after a while, it is not only the artisans on constructed sites that live there. Other low income people and destitutes join them.

Some of the early settlers even constitute themselves into so-called "landlords," and start collecting rental dues from those who wish to erect shanties, within the same locality.

The occupants of these shanties are not only Nigerians. There is a huge population of other West African nationals from Togo, Cotonou, Cameroon etc, who also live there.

Many of them have no visible means of income, and are often at the mercy of the street wise gangsters within such locations, who are too willing nto exploit them.

You will often see a huge population of unwed teenage mothers, prostitutes, weed sellers, jobless bricklayers, illiterate mallams, agberos, petty gangsters, agbo hawkers etc, all living within these shanties.

They have their own chiefs or 'Baáles' who claim to be the caretakers of the land, and who often extort money from them to settle police, and ministry officials whenever they come there to conduct raids.

The sad thing is the real owners of such lands where these people have constructed their shanties are often powerless to drive them out, because these people refuse to leave, when they are served eviction notices for trespassing on such lands.

We should be asking "why do these people illegally occupy lands that do not belong to them, and refuse to leave?"

Eventually, the land owners have no choice, but to involve the police or security forces, to get them out forcibly, from such occupied places.

Govt cannot just build low cost houses for these illegal squatters (because in reality, that is what they are).

And if those houses are even built, they will never be able to pay for it, because what they earn is too little, to even make adequate payments to cover the cost of such houses.

My church has held several outreaches in some of these areas, and we have interacted with many of them.

When you interview them, they will confess that they came from their villages to work in Lagos, but they ended up spending the wages they earned from their temporary jobs. Or they were robbed of their earnings.

When you ask them if they would like to go back to their villages or countries, if funds are made available, they become hostile and see you as their enemy!

I agree with all you wrote. Shanties are a complex mix of all sorts of people. You have criminals, prostitutes and other social miscreants. You also have those who need cheap accommodation closer to their jobs or businesses. Shanties are situated close to very affluent areas because the economy depends on proximity to rich folks.

CeterisXVII:
Oga, stop it. I grew up in Ikoyi and I schooled in Victoria Island. Falomo bridge was built in the late '70s.

I also did all my pre tertiary schooling in Ikoyi. Falomo bridge was most probably commissioned in 79 or late 78. The bridge was not there during FESTAC77.

uruba23:
The Constitution definitely override any arrangements. Which yeye coalition, except Nigeria doesn't want him there, he stay put and complete his five years. After all we sent the War Ship and routed Aircraft to chase the former dictator away.

Gbam. Nothing more to add.

See the "slap" for which he apologized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WySwhj2SwE

Now compare it to oyedepo's slap for which he never apologised.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAj6TVj9t0Q

GamalNasser:
If it was Donald Trump that did this the pope would have called for his resignation ...I think this is the worst pope in recent history , very partisan and dark

But he apologised.
Can your god apologise for anything in his whole life? You guys believe Trump is infallible.

nura15:
THAT'S YOUR OWN CUP OF PROBLEM.YOUR LAND IS YOUR LAND AS OUR LAND IS OURS. THEREFORE LIVE YOUR LIFE AS YOU LIKE & LET US LIVE OUR LIVES AS WE LIKE.

I agree totally. Muslim north should stay on their lands and Christian south should stay on their lands. At the same time Muslim north must raise the resources to run their Islamic Republic. You cannot rely on taxes and resources from South to run a government that is hostile to me.

We the south are never a vassal state of the north. You cannot be collecting taxes from us and still pursuing us from your land, while at the same time having free reign on ours.

We better start telling our politicians to start reassessing our relationship with the Muslim north. It makes more sense to for them to join their Muslim brothers in Niger and establish an Islamic Republic called Nigeriastan.

mikeapollo:
You want to talk about electricity and water? In Nigeria? Or because PHCN is probably doing you a favour with few hours of electricity to celebrate the new year?
Dont worry you would soon switch to your generator or solar/inverter very soon.
Where is the public water system in Nigeria that you want to pretend exists?
Pretenders suffering and bragging!

This is what you wrote;

Do you think other countrirs would wait for Nigeria to have electricity and water before they provide same to their own people.?

When I pointed out to you that you are wrong and that Nigerians do indeed run their homes and offices with electricity, and do have water running in their homes, you then changed mouth to generator or solar/inverter and public water system.
The amount of electricity generated by generators and solar panels in Lagos west alone is more than all your public electricity generated throughout Ghana.
I have generator and solar panels in my home, not to even talk about NEPA, that is constant where I live.
I have hot water running in my taps, as there is borehole in most homes in Lagos.

ernecy:
I heard she is a transgender. A male masquerading as a female.

Conspiracy theory of white nationalists and their sympathetisers.

They know the can't touch her.

Temple1288:
Haha! He respects some woman more than his own wife? You're just a low IQ dumb individual!

Michelle Obama is so respected in the US that even Steve Bannon, Trump's former strategist thinks she has a chance against trump in the race for the presidency in 2020 -https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-08-11/bannon-latest-to-float-idea-of-michelle-obama-run-against-trump

Even Filmmaker and activist Michael Moore recently called on Michelle Obama to run as the best hope for Democrats to beat Trump in 2020, saying the popular former first lady would “crush” the president.

“She is a beloved American, and she would go in there, and she would beat him,” Moore said on MSNBC. “She would beat him in the debates, he wouldn’t be able to bully her, he wouldn’t be able to nickname her.”

chiefolododo:
In terms of what ?she is not even as beautiful as Aisha buhari

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is said to be the most intelligent first last America ever had.

chewwie:
Melania Trump is the only sensible one there. Immense beauty. Why isn't Ivanka Trump there?

Are you normal? How can you compare Melania Trump with Michelle Obama? Even Donald Trump respects Michelle more than Melania.

Ewedegubbler:
Admired by who and who? I no follow oo

Me I follow o. I admire her even more than her husband. She represent the strong and educated black woman.

I know many white nationalist hate to see a strong educated, highly intelligent black woman. They prefer a dumb, barely educated, model (runs girl ) as long as she is white.

Anywhere she goes around the world, she is respected and loved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1QAOlW9cc

mikeapollo:
My brother, stop deluding ghe issue with the so-called Nigeria'' reluctance . Other countries will move on without Nigeria.
Do you think other countrirs would wait for Nigeria to have electricity and water before they provide same to their own people.?

Then move on without Nigeria. And they told you we don't have electricity and water? We must be replying you on this thread with computers and phones running on candles, and we must be drinking air instead of water.

Dollarseeker:
that's my utmost goal on this earth. not just to take care of babies but everyone. Do u have anywhere where I can volunteer? it will be my joy to do so.

You can go to motherless babies home and adopt abandoned children.
Better still, you can build a charity home for ladies to drop babies they gave birth to but don't want.

nura15:
What rubbish is this now? What nonsense will we not see in this rubbish country.
Imagine a local vigilante arresting a Police officer in a hotel where he went to have his private time and privacy.

This people should stop this madness, as no region has a monopoly of madness.

The greatest irony is that these laws are meant for their poor masses, not the elites.

What of their politicians that carry four small girls to hotel, will they cough one bit? Never

If they feel they want to implement their Sharia law, let us all divide and every region to your tent, so that nobody will be bordered about what the others are doing.

I have said it, the proponents of Sharia and full Islamic tenets should push for and Islamic country, where Shari and Islam will be implemented 100% without interference.

Ever since Buhari took over power, the proponents of Islam and Sharia are firing from all angles. From the CJN now to this Hisbolah vigilante.


In this 21st century where people are discussing how to settle in Mars, look at the things we are prioritising.

Lord Lugard just merged Progress and backwardness, and the resultant effect is stagnation which is equal to Nigeria.
WHY SHOUTING? WAS HE ARRESTED IN ENUGU OR DELTA? WE HAVE RULES & IF YOU MUST LIVE IN OUR STATES YOU MUST ABIDE BY THEM.HAVE EVER SEEN A HISBAH OFFICER ARRESTING AN ADULTERER IN IMO? SO, STOP INTERFERING IN WHAT DOESN'T CONCERN.IF YOU THINK FUCKING AROUND IS A SELF ENJOYMENT KEEP ENJOYING YOURSELF IN YOUR OWN AREA.STAY AWAY FROM ISSUES THAT CONCER NORTH.

I have never been a proponent of separation, but if the northerners want to implement religious laws that will bar me from moving and living freely on their lands, then the very basis of a staying together needs to be reassessed. The igbos that want secession has never implemented any law that restricts anyone from living on their lands. Their reasons are marginalisation and unfair distribution of resources.
The Islamic north cannot have their cake and eat it. They don't want me to eat pork, drink bear, enter Keke with my girl friend or sister on their lands, but want to roam freely in my land with their cows eating our crops, and sleeping on our lands without paying rent.
It just can't continue like this forever. We will very soon have serious conflict and reactions.

Dollarseeker:
u can say whatever u want to say. on no account must abortion be encouraged... it is murder.

Then volunteer to take all babies born as a result of rape, if the mothers don't want them. That way I will know you care about humanity that religious rightness.

26,000 babies in a day, that's 9,490,000 babies in a year. We dey fùck o. That's the population of many countries of the world.
We need to do something about our population explosion. Maybe we should adopt a one child policy. That will not work as most people still believe children are gifts from God.

Seriously talking, we should be taking sex education and contraceptives more seriously.

Dollarseeker:
the bible says by their fruit you shall know them.

just imagine if the so called pastors who are ritualist were not caught they would have become big pastors in 10 yrs to come with large numbers of followers who can die for them, preaching whatever they like. Just in the last 3 months they caught more than 5 ritualist pastors who would have become popular and own private jets if they were not caught.

Though shall not kill. the unborn babies, the bible says even the numbers of hairs on their head is known by God. Abortion is wrong and should never be encouraged in all ramifications.

You have it. BY THEIR FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW THEM.

So a woman should be forced to give birth and nurture the child of a rapist?

If she does, it's still you religious hypocrites that will call the child bastard and will refuse to marry the lady or allow any of your family to marry her, because she is not a virgin.

NaMeAboki:
I am dumbfounded by the level of intolerance, ignorance, stupidity and hypocrisy being advertised by many of the Christian respondents in this thread:

It's you people that are intolerant, ignorant, stupid and hypocritical. How else do you impose your religious belief on others who are not muslims in a secular country.

Who told you that the respondents are all Christians, there are other religions in Nigeria outside Christianity and Islam. Some people do not profess any religion at all, like the owner of this site.

- Intolerance because many are inexplicably hostile to the rights of Muslims to sharia - a law which for almost all intents and purposes does not concern them at all.

Who is hostile to your rights of Muslims to practice sharia? It's you people that wants to impose sharia on non muslims. If you practice sharia in your homes, communities or even states, what's my concern, as long as it applies to only muslims. it's when you bring it to my house, business or private space that I will react.

- Ignorance because most still believe that Sharia is unconstitutional and therefore operating outside the law.

It is unconstitutional to impose sharia on non muslims. The Constitution guarantees freedom of movement and religion. If guarantees my right to eat pork, drink beer, fvck any woman ( as long as she consents ) any where within Nigeria, as long as it's in the privacy of my own home or private space, and I do not do it in your private space.

Now if you don't want a Republic where pork and beer is not allowed, then start agitating peacefully (like IPOB ) for an Islamic Republic. If I want to come to zamfara, I will have to apply for visa. It's against natural justice for my taxes and resources to be shared in a state, I am not accorded my freedom of movement and religion.

OgunLaakaye:
No, when did 2 or 3some become a norm

Hello.. You have diversed from culture without knowing. It transits from forbidden to a norm.

Mini skirt was an abomination once that even the society frowned at. Now, going to a party with bra is a norm.

Trust me Africa will legalise gay and lesbianism. It's just a matter of time.

Are you saying it's not a norm to marry 2 or 3 wives. Will it be an abomination to have a party with your 2 wives. I have read a man marry a set of twins and they all sleep on the same bed.

OgunLaakaye:
Hello! It's not norm and insane. This act was imported and it needs to be checkmated.

What do you mean that it's not the norm and insane? Are you insinuating that prostitution and extra marital sex is not the norm? Look prostitution and extra marital sex is as old as humanity itself.

Like I said earlier, if nothing should concern me then lesbianism, Gay and controlled Marijuana should be legalised and we completely remove the checkmate.

Please explain how lesbianism, Gay and controlled Marijuana concern you? lesbians and gays carry out their acts in the privacy of their homes. If they should do it in public, they constitute public nuisance and should be arrested (same with heterosexuals too).

Although I don't support legalisation of marijuana, due to its negative effect on public health, (just like cigarettes, but if the public opinion and government favours legalising it, what's my business?

It's just logical to know something's are not normal. You need not anybody to tell you.

What's abnormal to you might be perfectly normal to another person. It's a matter of perspective.

Why are tramadol users arrested, afteral, it's nobody's business since it's not going into their system

Tramadol also constitute public health concerns, it was not banned on moral or religious basis. It could be unbanned tomorrow if new data shows it is not constituting public health concerns.

OgunLaakaye:
Hello, I am not a religious person but what's wrong is wrong. The act I detest. So much westernization getting into Africa and we just buying and consuming it. Their should be a check. Religiously or constitutionally.

If you are not a religious person, on what basis are you condemning what 2 or 3 consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes (or hotel rooms)?

BlackPantherCri:
It covers the state.

It is like a Christian going to Saudi Arabia and saying that the laws of Saudi will not apply to the person. Nope, it does

Wrong analogy.
Saudi Arabia is a sovereign country. Zamfara is a state within Nigeria subject to the Nigerian constitution, and the Nigerian constitution guarantees freedom of movement and religion.

Within Nigeria, sharia does not apply to non muslims. If you don't want non muslims in your state, demand a sovereign country where you can impose Islamic laws like Saudi Arabia.

EzeIgbo1:
God bless you bro

Here are a list of countries in Africa who pegged their currency value to the euro even before the eco fully emerges

Benin
Burkina Faso
Guinea-Bissau
Ivory Coast
Mali
Niger
Senegal
Togo
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Republic of the Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Gabon

Notice they are all French speaking countries and former french colonies?
The euro is pegged to the economies of the strongest countries in Europe and these are Germany which is the fourth strongest economy in the world with an economy worth $3.4 trillion, followed by the United Kingdom with an economy worth $2.9 trillion. France is third on the list with $2.4 trillion.

Do you see the power play france is trying to play by leveraging off and leeching off these African countries?

Germany narrowly avoided recession in 2018 and if they had hit recession the value of the euro would sharply drop. If the eco is tied to the euro it too would suffer badly.

In essence herein is the slavery and recolonization part. These African countries cannot function independently and outside the limits they have been placed. They cannot make economic decisions on their own. So they are tied at the hip to France, Germany and UK.

Now if UK pulls out of EU which is expected to happen then the euro would be hard hit because $2.9 trillion support just got removed from EU and the eco would be hard hit.

I am not bothered about China and the Yuan. I would rather have Nigeria fully align with China. 2 most populous nations in the world (China most populous in the world and nigeria most populous in Africa) would make for a behemoth of an economy in trade terms.

The eco is not a good idea at this time and i am so glad Nigeria is not enthusiastic towards joining

The west is saturated now so all focus is on Africa and the quest to dominate her. Nigeria is a problem to those who wish to dominate Africa so they want to do everything to cut us down to size and this explains a lot about how Boko haram gets weapons and this move by france.

USA, FRANCE, UK all have military bases in various locations in Africa and for what? Arms Proliferation. They are the ones getting these arms to these terrorists but they turn around and act as if they are helping you fight them. Forked tongue nations.

You head dey there. You be real eze.
Me too I would prefer we align with China. Aligning with the west had not benefitted us. It is more of a parasitic relationship.

BlackPantherCri:
According to Sharia law that functions in that state, he has committed and atrocity

But the person in question might not be a Muslim, and sharia should not apply to him.

shineeye1:
You have forgotten that someone owns this earth and that you are a tenant who must abide by certain rules.
All God haters and the lawless are united in one desire to live without rules.
It is that desire that God has satisfied by creating a place where everything goes and nothing is restrained. You and your fellow travellers will be ushered into HELL where you will live forever - WITHOUT RULES

It is impossible for you to comprehend, but not everyone believes in your God. Some people even believe in worship of Satan. Will you kill another person because he worships Satan?

You might follow one religious book that says the earth was created by christ and that you are tenants who must abide Christ's rules, another person might follow a book that says krishna is supreme and everyone must live by krishna's rules. There are about 5 major religions and over 200 minor ones. Satanism is a religion.
The main problem of the world that has caused numerous conflicts throughout history is when one set of people war and kill to impose their religious book on others.

Not everybody is interested in going to heaven, and some people want to go to hell. Are you going to force them to want to go to your heaven?

shineeye1:
If you had not lost your life compass, you would know that morality is what separates humans from lower beasts.

If you have life compass and more important things to do, you would not be killing yourself over what separate other humans ( you do not even know ) from lower beasts.

shineeye1:
A child who bears no resemblance with its parent is most likely a bastard. Your permissiveness of immorality bears no connection to our traditions and african culture neither does if have a place with our religions. I can only see you as an African Bastard.

I still ask, how is that your problem? You want to jihad to force people to conform to your African culture and tradition?

shineeye1:
I make bold to say, even though I am not a Muslim, that if not for Islam, Nigeria would long have become Sodom and Gomorrah. The "Christians" of Nigeria are a corrupt , inept and rotten lot! The only problem with Islam are the fundamentalists and jihadists who propagate violence and terror. Islam is a far more godly religion than the so-called Christianity in Nigeria today.

And other christian, Buddhist or atheist dominated countries have become Sodom and Gomorrah? In fact their are far worse immorality, terrorism and abuses in Muslim dominated countries that other countries of the world.

When all you think about, live and die for is other people's morals, then you have no achievements of your own to live for.

shineeye1:
So because they are adults, then their immorality is excused? Well you are just the same and so it is OK by you.
You who resist God in everything and undermine his rules as laid done by our forefathers in all earlier generations will bear God's wrath in due time.

Is it your immorality? Moral laws are not civil laws. Moral laws apply for members of religious organisations, civil laws apply to all citizens of a country. If the Guy and manager of the hotel are not muslims, you have no right imposing Muslim laws on them.

What do you guys really want? Split the country so you can have your Boko Haram Republic, so you have impose whatever laws you want without affecting me, you guys say no. OK, abide by the Nigerian constitution that guarantees everyone freedom of movement and religion, you guys say no.
You guys want unnecessary conflict.

EzeIgbo1:
You have time to respond to that guy. I meet many like him here. All noise and no sense. All they do is sit in a corner and just wait to her NIGERIA then they start hyperventilating as if we stole their wife or girlfriend. If you listen closely to what they are even saying it is absolute nonsense. The never pause to fully grasp any situation before the begin vomiting senselessly.

He thinks France wishes them well. Ghanaians have been known to always learn the hard way and this will not be different.

I saw 2 Ghanaians the other day at circle and they were talking to each other and one said "I like Nigerians a lot, I like them because they are very intelligent unlike our people" and this is the truth many of them hate to hear.

Before stick go enter our eyes we dey see am but Ghana man dey only see food and drink and not danger

Even the ordinary citizens in francophone countries are beginning to see france as a trojan horse. It's their government officials that depends on France to remain in power that is keeping the countries in servitude to France.

Meanwhile this guy want to court France as an ally just to spite Nigeria.

Anti-French sentiment on the rise in West Africa as security situation deteriorates
Although France remains the only Western country with a significant military presence in the Sahel, France's relationship with its former African colonies has grown increasingly tense in recent months. This has led to an evident increase in anti-French sentiment.

"So that's when the conspiracy theories get going: Either they're there because of the supposed mineral riches in the north of Mali, or they think it's just a neocolonialist project to make sure that they remain part of France's backyard," he says.

Earlier this month, Macron responded to the rise in anti-French sentiment, urging G5 Sahel leaders to address the issue if they wanted France to continue its military operations against Islamist militants.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/anti-french-sentiment-on-the-rise-in-west-africa-as-security-situation-deteriorates/a-51648107

See threat. Meaning; if people insists on Franch soldiers leaving their lands, France would allow Islamic militants over run their countries.