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4kings:
Wirinet i really want to know the answer to this.

My view on this? Well, this is a very trickish situation. Debt is one of the main reasons companies fold up in Nigeria. I have known big companies that was owed billions of naira and had to eventually fold up.

Ordinarily, I would have said take the matter to court, but our judicial system is too slow, too infective and too costly, especially for civil cases. You might be in court for the next three or more years, and at the end of the day, the your debtor might be asked to pay installmentally over a prolonged period of time.

The first rule of business in Nigeria is avoid debts as much as possible, this is my motto after more than 20years of doing business. It is better to take small profit margins and collect your money cash than expect huge profits in debts. Even if you eventually collect your money, the stress would not worth the wahala. Besides with small margins but cash at hand, you can turn over the business multiple times instead of using the time to pursue debt in a single transaction.

Nigerians only understand one language threats. You can use police or even soldier to threaten the debtor. Although lawyers will tell you about the law and the illegality of using police and soldiers, but believe me this is what works fastest. I have seen people use thugs, Oyabo, OPC, etc to collect their debts. Even micro finance and money lenders (Lapo) use police, thugs, etc. Just be tactical about it and do not cause any physical damage to persons and property.

I remember someone owed my wife N30,000 for over one year. One Saturday morning my wife went to her house to draw the debt, the debtor came out ready for a fight, my wife took her down and seized her two phones. Behold, by evening that day she showed up at my door with the N30,000.

elobyobi:
Niggaz be like "hi, I'm Chukwuma, from Kogi State"

Mtchewww...

This one small, have you not heard " hi, I am Obinna, I am from Lagos State", what of " hi, I am Okwudili, I am British"?

Aaronsrod:
Do not mock the Lord our God!

Humanity was white and made in God's image before we turned to witchcraft and juju in the Garden of Eden. Now the stain of our sin is in our skin. We know this and yet we continue to defy our Creator with athiest questions and disobedience.

If we repent we can return to be as God meant us to be. Free from disease and hole in his sight!

SEEK DELIVERANCE IJNIP!

Wow! you really have a chronic complex problem. You see your black skin as sin. No wonder your type bleach their skin until it becomes damaged.

deomelo:
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Very redundant, speculative, irrelevant and meaningless.


Save your essay and repost in 8 months time if we don't have the best or any airport in Osun state.

I will bookmark this page to remind you in 8 months. Hope you will not be giving excuses as usual.

Solomonudofia:
this guy said it all .... how can you as member of a church contribute money for you church to build schools that your children will not be able to attend because you are poor....... and the pastor is flying private jets...

what he is saying is that new generation churches has placed ppl on chains and nobody is noticing that....


am so thankful to Daddy freeze for this insight....I pray God will continue to strengthen him more

Do not mind these greedy 419 pastors and their brainwashed sheep. If it was these pastors that came to Christianize Africa, I am sure we will all still be illiterates living in the bush while they would be living ostentatious lives.

This question had been asked and debated numerous times on this forum, so I will not be repeating myself. I will just post a link for you guys. My comments are contained their.

https://www.nairaland.com/133599/how-did-black-people-black/2

deomelo:
Look here ignorant ipob. Corruption is your corrupt brain that's crying and wailing over what you don't know anything about, I even doubt you know the meaning of corruption regarding this project.

Even though we all hate IPOB and its modus operandi, you cannot shout IPOB as excuse and justification for suspicious and fraudulent projects.

1. This project is going to be privately funded, not by Osun state government or Aregbeshola unless you mean this reputable foreign private (Biray Group) company funding the project is not interested in the project and they are just going to give Aregbe the funding money to pocket for himself and we won't see any airport less than a year from now.

This is how silly and thoughtless many of you are.

You that is wise and thoughtful should have come down from your high horse and educated us silly and thoughtless ones on the details of the project. What is going to be the contributions of the Osun state government, what is the equity contributions of AWOL? Where is the memorandum and article of association of the whole project, and what is the contributions of the Turkish government, if any. Also what is the role of the Nigerian federal government as no state can enter into any agreement with a state government without the involvement of the FG.

Yes it is possible for a reputable foreign private firm like blue ray to give aregbe the funding money in his pocket if the project is skewed heavily in their favour. Ie, the actual cost of the project can be N10 billion, but concessioned at N60 billion. The company could put 5 billions into aregbe's pocket for the humongous expected benefits. Beside, aregbe could allocate lands worth billions to the foreign firm as part of Osun state's contribution to the project as tinubu did to Lekki concession company in the lekki express way concession.

2. The Turkish government, a sovereign Nation is not only backing this project, putting their country and reputation on the line by guaranteeing the construction and vouching on behalf of the construction company to build the airport and also deliver on time.

As I asked above, please furnish us with the details of the Turkish government's involvement.

So are they doing this just because of corruption?

3. Even if you have to shout and wail corruption, shouldn't you at least wait till after a year from now and there is still no airport?

People have rights to ask questions, when issues are not clear, especially issues that has to do with public finances and obligations

Beats me why Nigeria is so blessed with shallow thinking and ignorant youths.

You people just need to shut up sometimes and instead take your rubbish to your villages where you are and your incompetent governors are still begging everybody for airports and shouting merginalization while other states are moving forward and building their own airports.

You hero aregbe has been as incompetent, if not more incompetent than almost all other governors, all his previous projects had ended up as abysmal failures, you cannot blame people of being suspicious of this one. This is a governor that is owing civil servants over 6 months salary.
Airport should not even be a priority now, when the roads are in abysmally poor state, same with other public infrastructure. What percentage of the population are expected to use the airport as compared with road and road transportation infrastructure. What is the profitability of an airport in Osun, even when most airports in the western world except the major ones, are finding it difficult posting profits.
This is a classic white elephant project.

ipoblogic:
The only way to pull the carpet of the feet of these political jobbers is polls boycott.

Anyone telling you anything different is ignorant.

How can you boycott an election you are not part of? Is kanu or IPOB on the ballot sheet?
Even in Kenya where one party boycotted the election, the election still held and a winner was declared, so I do not understand this IPOBs threat to boycott the anambra elections.

lilytender:
Stop dreaming, there is no 2nd Niger bridge. You cannot work in Nestle Foods Plc and then go to Chivita Nigeria Ltd to ask for salary. You worked and laid down your lives for Goatluck Jonaddaft, so don't expect anything from Buhari. Goatluck Jonaddaft promised to build the 2nd Niger bridge or go on exile, so go and meet him for your 2nd Niger bridge. The next time that I hear any IPOB pig or idiot ask Buhari for 2nd Niger bridge, I will give the idiot a very dirty e-slap.

Let me help you remember past statements of Ohanaeze;

Ohanaeze endorses Jonathan for re-election on Feb. 14 - http://nicaprom.com/news/735-Ohanaeze-endorses-Jonathan-for-re-election-on-Feb-14-Enugu

Ohaneze Urges Igbo Sons And Daughters To Shun Buhari’s Ministerial Appointment - https://www.abusidiqu.com/ohaneze-urges-igbo-sons-and-daughters-to-shun-buharis-ministerial-appointment/

Dalam0n:
I don't consider consentual sex btw two adults that are not married to someone else wrong at all. Having said that, I think we now glorify sex much more than them.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. In many ancient cultures there were Gods and temples dedicated to sex. Phallic symbols were highly revered and special days were dedicated to sex and orgies.

peacesamuel94:
I agree that they were violent and people were killed in their thousands, but the number of lives the effect of America's nuclear attack on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the First, Second World war Nigerians civil war took, still surpasses that. Like you said, they no longer spread the gospel by violence.

there was never a new evil, Just that in the era will live in, it has now become more pronounced, what used to be done in secret, before now, has been made public. and what you used to be termed as sacrilege is what is now in vogue.

You are wrong on all fronts. Violence was much more pronounced and pervasive in the old days than now. Empires were built on conquests and the conquests very very brutal indeed. The wars in the Bible was just a sneak preview of the kind of violence that took place in those days. Ancient Greek cities were in a perpetual state of wat. Ancient peoples and civilizations were completely wiped out, eg the Sumerians, the Cartagenians, troy, etc.
Alexander the great marched from Greece through Persia all the way to India.

Genghis Khan marched all the way from Mongolia to Europe, kill everyone and everything in his path.

Europe just celebrated the 60th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome, which signified the longest period Europe had gone without wars among itself - http://www.finfacts.ie/Irish_finance_news/articleDetail.php?EU-at-60---the-longest-period-of-peace-in-Europe-in-over-2-000-years-775

The fact that there was no CNN, BBC, Twitter, Facebook, nairaland, etc in the olden days did not mean bad things were not happening.

hopefulLandlord:
interesting read

What i summarized is just a tip of the ice berg, my life story would make a Hollywood blockbuster. It is similar to Mowgli of Jungle Book. Not that i was raised by wolves, but i got introduced to civilization a bit late.

Let me make you laugh a bit;

When i was eventually brought to our family house in Lagos as a puny 6 year old in the 70s, i had enough lice in my head to shame a small termite colony. The next day my Aunt (my father's senior sister) held me down and use insecticide to flit my head. The lice all fell out but the pain was out of this world.

butterflyl1on:
I will make this simple. Nobody is brainwashed in ALL THINGS. brainwashing is carried out on a specific thing and what is used to achieve any form of brainwashing is through teaching and techniques associated with teaching.

So in its root form brainwashing is derived through teaching.

One can be taught to be a killer, a doctor, a lawyer, a businessman etc but they all have that one thing in common and that is importation of knowledge via teaching.

If you still think indoctrination is all about brainwashing when it has other synonyms then I am sorry to say you are doing English a great disservice

False premise resulting in false assertions resulting in false conclusions.

Brainwashing has nothing to do with impartation of knowledge. It involves using using subtle and sometimes violent means to make the mind accept things it might not accept through teaching and reasoning.

I have read extensively and practiced limitedly brainwashing techniques. Subtle techniques include the use of hypnotism, mantra, rites and ceremonies, others are threats, fear and reward and punishment system.
Sometimes it is outright violence aka murders, beatings and maiming. Christianity and Islam extensively employed violence during their spread.

You cannot be trained to be a killer doctor, lawyer or businessman, you can be trained to be a doctor, lawyer or businessman and then be indoctrinated to be a killer. A killer needs a reason to kill, either he/she feels threatened or is made to see the other person as an enemy or threat.

Dalam0n:
I am an atheist and my children are not atheist. I've never indoctrinated them with anything about atheism so your whole assertion is false.

Don't mind him, he claims to know atheists more than atheist themselves, while having never been an atheist.

I am an atheist, my wife a born again Christian. I have never called my children and " indoctrinated " them that there is no God and that Jesus, Yahweh and biblical stories are bullshit. They follow their mother to church.

My only worry is my 3 year old is always talking about hell. If her brothers should offend her, she should scream, you will go to hell and she would start crying if her brothers threaten her will hell fire. I am sure that is the result Sunday school indoctrination.
Another thing is she calls all white men with beard Jesus.

Dalam0n:
It is true that it is not all scientific truths that are universally accepted but science remains the only things that has truth that are objectively verified and universally accepted. Religion has NONE, and that is why indoctrination remains the only way it gains adherents. Childhood indoctrination remains the greatest weapon religion has in its arsenal.

J.D. Brucker in one of his books that I read talked about childhood indoctrination as thegreatest weaponreligion has in its arsenal. I'll copy and paste a lot of what he wrote down in his book while adding my own thoughts to his own. I'll simply state why childhood indoctrination is the main reason people still stick to Christianity.

Afterall even the bible acknowledges the importance of childhood indoctrination when it says that:

Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it. Poverbs 22:6

When you properly indoctrinate a child even when he grows he'll hardly depart from it. That is what christianity and all religions use to increase their numbers and make sure that people still believe. Childhood indoctrination. Without it Christianityand most religions will not be what they are today. If most children are presented with the bible for the first time on their 21st birthday christianity will not ne what it is today. But for christianity to ne what it is children will have to be indoctrinated at an early age so that they will remain in the religion.

From his book J.D. Brucker states it plainly that:
"indoctrination means to heavily influence someone into believing a particular set of ideas, whether they are political, cultural, or religious. Most often, this is done when the individual is particularly young, when he or she lack the ability to reasonably conclude whether or not a statement is true. Those who’ve experienced heavy indoctrination may be unaware of competing theories, alternate hypotheses, or even whether the ideas hold any merit at all; those ideas are simply believed and held dear for an unknown period of time".


As a former christian who went through the process of childhood indoctrination I have firsthand knowledge regarding the practices of indoctrination when it comes to Christianity. As children attending Sunday school , bible stories were read to us as facts, prayers were rehashed and taught to us as very good things that we need to carry out always, Christian hymns and songs were taught, and so on. We as children had no choice in the matter. We were being taught by people we believed were authorities that these particular sets of religious beliefs were true, without a chance of error. As we were taught, so were we expected to accept them fully without question as facts. We were not taught about other competing religious beliefs on a level plain field at all.

At the end almost all of us that attended Sunday school would tell anybody that cared that we know God was real, Jesus walked on water, healed the sick, rose from the dead, was resurrected and ascended into heaven on the third day; to us, all of these things were as real as anything.


Never did we entertain the idea these things might not be true and neither were we influenced in amy way to challenge those beliefs. As I said we weren’t taught about other faiths and why other individuals find those faiths to be true. We even refrained from challenging out of fear of being mocked or punished. Most times when you gothough this indoctrination you'll have no choicd bit to indoctrinate yourself into thinking religious beliefs were off the table to debate.


J.D. Brucker says: "Children are typically open to believing almost anything told to them, without question. During early childhood, children are most receptive which is why education is most important during this period of time. Learning comes faster, the memory is crisp, and children are generally open and willing to accept new information without inhibition. The age of reason is typically considered to be around 6 or 7, when the child begins to have the capabilities to weigh options and reach conclusions. This is when we must be vigilant when trying to help them develop the how to think approach.

Most Christian church organizations heavily involve children in many different events. Sunday school, summer Bible camps, wilderness retreats, catechism or confirmation, plays, and musical ceremonies top that particular list. These organizations are quite aware how impressionable children are and it appears as though they’re taking full advantage of that. Some evangelical Christian organizations fully and publicly acknowledge what they’re doing.

From a very early age, children are taught to memorize parts of the bible and dwell so much on its stories and told that the stories are of divine origins as such they are to be accepted totally as true ; sometimes, this often holds importance over studying other more earthly curriculums which are told is of less importance as the biblical narratives. This has two significant disadvantages. Firstly, this has a long lasting effect on the child’s cognitive development, as it’s primarily based on one particular source. Secondly, as a result of that, they will learn to reject other sources of knowledge simply because it deviates from what the bible teaches. This then, as I state previously, creates an “us” versus “them” frame of mind, completely carrying the believer further from other forms of enlightenment ; never questioning and always accepting, brainwashing at its best. The very same can be said for most of the orthodox Jewish population or Muslims for example. Anywhere religious instruction exists, expect indoctrination to take place at an early age"

Q.E.D.
Beautifully written and concludes the whole thread.

This thread was going nowhere as even the definition of indoctrination was not agreed upon. It is impossible to debate a subject that means different things to the debaters.
Imagine someone defining indoctrination as "simply to teach", it means the word brainwashing also means to teach.

The key to all religions as you rightly pointed out is early childhood indoctrination, that is why straight from birth children are vigorously indoctrinated with religious dogma of their patents, and before they get to the age that they are capable of independent thinking ( sometimes around the age of 7), they have accepted the religious dogmas as truths.

I was very lucky to escape early childhood indoctrination, due to the strange circumstances of my birth, I was born not my dads house or town but my grandfather's village that is over 4 hours away by speed boat from the nearest town. It was not until I was six did I go back to my father's house. My grandfather who was a fisherman was highly irreligious ( I did'nt know if he was an atheist though), so by the age of 6, I had not had any religious indoctrination.

It was at my Father's family house that the indoctrination started. My mame was changed to a Christan name, and I was baptized into the Anglican church ( my family church) at the age of 7. The problem was that, by then it was too late. I really could not understand what the whole issue was about, I did not understand why I needed salvation and it was a white man hung on a cross that would provide it. Even though the whole thing did not make sense to me, I tagged along, I joined the choir and rose to become the lead tenor by age 15, I was even training to be an organist. I was also one of the cross bearer that follows the Reverend father when entering and exiting the church.
By the age of 16 I was tired of the whole thing and I wanted out, but my family would have non of it. It caused problems between me and my family, i would skip choir practice on Saturdays and would be severely punished. As soon as I left home for A/levels, I became free.
It was at the university that the cosmological and existential questions started plaguing my mind, so I started reading on science, philosophy, comparative religion and occultism. At the end of the day I settle with the sciences as the best answers to our cosmological and existential origins.

zoeshalom:
Despite the glut in yam produce as you claim there is a hike in price for local consumption, what would now happen to when there is foreign patronage without your aforementioned problems rectified?

I had taken time out to explain the hike in price for local consumption of yam and I explained that it was not due to shortfall in production. A client told me he travelled home last week ( somewhere in kwara), and that yam is so cheap at this time that he was unable to carry N2000 worth of yam on his journey back to Lagos. He mentioned that each tuber of big yam is about N100, now that same tuber of yam will sell between N500 to N800 in Lagos.

I do not agree with this lawmaker, why?
Because he is oversimplifying the issue.
The problem of high food prices in Nigeria - especially yams is not necessarily due to a shortfall in production, it has more to do poor preservation practices and poor transportation infrastructure from the farms to the markets.

During the yam season, the price is next to nothing in the farms and quite low in the local yam markets, but by the time it gets to the major markets in major major cities and towns, the price would have risen exorbitantly. This is due to the very bad roads and high cost of transportation

Since the farmers practice poor preservative practices, there is little yam available during the off season thereby resulting in very high prices. Close to half of the yams in preservation get spoilt or are destroyed by insects and rodents.

This same situation happens as regards to other agricultural produce like tomatoes, onions, corn, etc.

chloride6:
Let the NNPC cease to work until the National Assembly passes a bill?

That is the law.

So NNPC cannot prepare a budget of all the expenditure they are expecting to carry out for the financial year and present it to the national assembly?

In case of emergency, the NNPC cannot push the executive to ask for a supplementary budget?

So you advocate that the NNPC should remit only 25% of what the decide to declare as revenue and then keep the rest? Keep the rest for what exactly? Without a prepared budget, how will anyone know what the total expenditure of NNPC would be.

Now, what will NNPC use the 75% for? NNPC has no oil rigs, they are not operating any physical oil installation, it is the joint partner companies that carry out the oil exploitation, and the cost of oil exploration and exploitation is already built into the contract. NNPC's major expenditure is salaries, allowances and other recurrent expenditures, they carry out little capital expenditures which can easily be budgeted for.

chloride6:
Stop foaming at the mouth. The mechanics of a number of agencies do not allow for measures to be followed.

Then such agencies should go back to the national assembly to either amend the constitution or make special provisions for them.
The power to allocate funds lies with the national assembly and not with the executive and certainly not with the MDAs.

Desyner:
Stop being half smart. When was the memo issued? When did the committee start siting? Stop fooling no one but yourself. No need posting irrelevant facts.

What are you ranting about? Are you dyslexic? Can't you see that there is a committee called " Ad Hoc Committee on Alleged Misuse, Under-Remittance and Other Fraudulent Activities"

The committee was inaugurated in march 2017;

The Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki has stated that the Senate Ad-Hoc Committee on Alleged Misuse, Under Remittance and Other Fraudulent Activities in Collection, Accounting, Remittance and Expenditure of Internal Revenue Generated By Revenue Generating Agencies was not set up to witch hunt any individual or organization but an exercise to see help the agencies to be more prudent in both collection and spending of revenue.

At the inauguration of the Committee, the Senate President who was represented by Senator John Enoh said the committee is to investigate whether statutory transfers to the Consolidated Revenue Fund as required by law are being done accurately and as at when due adding that “ the major problem in most of our government revenue generating agencies is the abuse of operating surpluses where people spend up to the last naira on irrelevant conferences and souvenirs”.
http://www.theparadigmng.com/2017/03/23/ad-hoc-committee-misuse-revenue-mdas-not-witch-hunt-senate-president/

Desyner:
The timing matters alot. A memo that's over 3 years oid shows up 3 days after maina saga, it isn't coincidental BMC agent.

What timing and who was timing? Did you read the report at all, or you just saw the heading that mentioned Okonjo Iweala and immediately felt the urge to defend " our sister".

In case you missed it this is what the report said;

The Senate Ad Hoc Committee on Alleged Misuse, Under-Remittance and Other Fraudulent Activities has said revenue agencies short-changed the Federal Government to the tune of N1.7tn as unremitted revenue generated between 2012 and 2016.

The panel blamed it on a memo by a former Minister of Finance, Mrs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, who allegedly issued the memo to the agencies to remit 25 per cent of revenue they generated to the Federal Government and spend 75 per cent on their expenditures.

It was the senate that was investigating Alleged Misuse, Under-Remittances and fraudulent activities by MDAs, and in defence the MDAs presented the memo issues by Okonjo Iweala as excuse for under remittances. Mind you, the senate committee is made up of APC and PDP members, so your BMC defence will not fly.

Desyner:
And why on earth is report just coming out. You mean a memo to multiple MDAs wasn't known until the news of Maina reinstatement and promotion came out. I am not falling for one low grade propaganda. I will discuss NOI report later.

Whenever the report comes out is irrelevant, what is relevant is whether the report is true or false. I would have expected Okonjo Iweala to deny the reports or at worst explain why she issued such illegal memo.

I still no not understand the connection between Maina's reinstatement and Okonjo iweala's memo, causing us to lose trillions of naira. Are you now saying even if Buhari gets away with the absurd reinstatement and maina goes scot free, that subsequent government cannot arrest and prosecute Maina because of Okonjo Iweala's memo to MDAs? Probably they would add Okonjo Iweala's granting of import duty waivers worth trillions of naira also.

Desyner:
Well I am no fan of NOI but did she also empower MDAs to waste the remaining 75% ?
How come we always getting these report when Buhari govt is being exposed ?

You do not have to be a fan to know right from wrong. She did not have the power to empower any MDA, she should simply have insisted that MDAs comply with the constitution and remit 100% into the federation account. The MDA would get their fundings and running costs from the national assembly, that is why they present and defend their budget to the national assembly every year. It was wrong for them to determine how much revenue they will declare and then decide to keep 75% of that revenue.

I was a big fan of Buhari and I am one of those that was/is highly disappointed by his performances, having said that, if you want to discus Buhari and his failings, by Jove do so, but you cannot justify all and every crime by all in the past by shouting Buhari.

Desyner:
You are desperate because you got found out. I am not opening any thread for Maina saga. Invite the MODs ASAP.

Desperate about what? You guys are schizophrenic. It is unreasonable to always answer one question with answers from another question. You will fail your exams if you do that. You do not use the crimes of another criminal as defense for your own crimes.

This heading clearly states; Senate Indicts Okonjo-iweala, Says Her Memo Caused N1.7tn Revenue Loss, so what concerns maina, Tinubu or even Buhari in the matter. If you want to talk about main a, open another thread and we will thrash it out there.

How did the letter above prove that the Head Of Service, Winifred Oyo-ita Was personally aware Of Abdulrasheed Maina's Reinstatement? It only showed a letter from the permanent secretary informing the office of the head of service of maina's reinstatement. It did not seek approval from the head of service. She even probably never saw the letter.

Desyner:
They don't have to ask her. It is suppose to distract us from the messy Maina saga where Buhari is implicated.

If you want to talk about the maina saga, open another thread and we will all castigte Buhari for it. This thread is about how Okonjo Iweala aided government agencies to defraud Nigerians to the tune of trillions of naira.

This part summarizes the whole article;


The committee said the agencies chose to comply with a directive by Okonjo-Iweala via a memo dated November 11, 2011, with Reference Number BO/RVE/12235/259/VII/201 by the former minister “to remit 25 per cent only from the revenue generated and use the remaining 75 per cent, which is a clear violation of Section 120 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) and the Fiscal Responsibility Act 2007 as well as the establishment acts of some of these institutions.”

Section 162(1) of the 1999 Constitution specifically stated that all revenues of the Federation should be paid into the Federation Account. Where did Okonjo Iweala get the powers to direct government agencies to only remit 25% of their generated revenues.

EternalTruths:
Did the Senate ask her why she took that decision to know if it was actually good for the economy.?

So the senate should ask her why she broke the law.

Campusity:
Them don come again. NOI was conveying a decision of government.

Why will a seasoned former world bank president agree to convey a decision that is not only against best financial practices, but also unconstitutional.

Statsocial:
You can't "prefer" because it is not your money. When you start getting your salary go and give it to OAU. A while ago Living faith paid 800 million to Landmark for scholarship. A large number of people studying Agriculture in LMU today are under DOF scholarships so don't say what you don't know. As a student sef you would find it hard to know who is on scholarship because the church doesn't publicise(and it should not).

I am going to give to Covenant alongside other Alumni members. However when our Kids probably apply we cannot expect a dime in reduction of school fees for our kids.

When i start getting salary? Well, this is an anonymous forum so there is not need boasting of our achievements. For your information, i graduated from OAU and i did not pay tuition fees.

Nukilia:
The antagonists won't be happy to read this. The poor people who keep accusing the man of God have now seen 1/1000 of those who supported the church when the church was in need.

Those who supported the church don't complain they serve God with all they have...

You are right we antagonist are not happy reading this. Why? Because, thousands of people supported the church when it was in need, but the church does not support those same people that supported it, when they are in need. I do not see the sense in donating for a university to be built, only for the university to charge the people exorbitantly to study at the university. So what happens to the profit being generated by the university?

I would have preferred Dogara, donate the same 6month's salary as scholarship grants to the same university for brilliant poor students who gained admission to the university but is unable to afford the exorbitant fees.

124mumsy:
that is God For You.for u is ways are not the ways of man, but at the end it is good. better, best and that is the more reason the atheist dont understand him

This should not be about atheist/christian debate but about a couple who needlessly lost their lives due to bad roads. Instead of you to attack the real culprits in this tragedy - corrupt government officials, you are taking your frustrations on atheists.

What will you have said if the accident involved AMORC couples coming from AMORC convention or atheist couples coming from atheist gatherings?

NPComplete:
No matter how bad you are, you still have to feel sorry for THT80 though.
From his posts you can tell he has been lurking in the shadows all this while reading Nairaland as a guest or with an alternative account. Gently penning down his thoughts and refining them. Putting the right words and grammar at the right places and beautifying it with a cosmetic of word salad.

He had carefully selected what he considers the strongest intellectual sections on Nairaland; the religious section and the literature section. He is going to force his intelligence on them and Nairaland will know of the rising of a genius. And for good measure he decided to add the romance section too. Surely those bimbos there will swoon at the sight of his English and trip over themselves as they flock to him. Easy pickings. Finally he was going to have his big moment.

He was going to prove to himself he was truly intelligent even though the events in his life seem to show otherwise. People he considers inferior are doing better in life yet he himself, for all his intelligence, has nothing to show and was beginning to look like a joke. The intelligence must count for something. He must feel in control again. Nairaland will be a good place to start.

Sadly it was not to be so. Now everything has backfired spectacularly. Turns out them bimbos aren't as gullible as he thought. What was supposed to be very easy turned out to be very hard. Now he is being shred by little girls in the romance section, mauled by the inferior writers in the literature section and sodomised by atheists in the religious section. This is not how it was all supposed to go.

This was supposed to be a triumph. Now he his even worse off than before he opened this account. Even less self-esteem, no triumph, no groupies, no nothing. All he has now is only shame, more enemies........and the giant bag of dicks he is being forced to suck on.

You have correctly profiled this guy. You should be working for the FBI as you are wasting your talent here.

Due to your observations I viewed the history of this guy and I see he has serious psychological issues, he seems to have a false sense of superiority complex pertaining to intelligence when relating to fellow blacks, but at the same time exhibit another false sense of inferiority complex in relation to the whites.

See one of this posts;

The Quality Of Advice On This Section Is Extremely Poor. by THT80: 7:50am On Oct 18
Matters of family and relationship are very crucial subjects. They are crucial because they deal with the lives of people. Whenever a problem arises from the home or between couples, such problem should be taken as an extremely serious and volatile one because if it is not handled properly, it could lead to the end of such relationship, or even worse. And the scars that would arise out of such outcomes may last through out the lives of the individuals involved and possibly even affect their children.

If all this is the case, and if we, as I suppose, understand how precariously balanced a problem or issue bothering on family or relationship is, why then are we quick to the proffer advice that we aren't competent enough to render?

I don't mean to denigrate the active users on this section, but from all the threads I have read, I have hardly come across any piece of advice that's worth applying. I think it was just in one case that I read something that didn't make me frown. Does this mean that no one on this section is smart enough to render the sort of advice one would find on foreign forums? Is this related to the pervasive claim that black Africans have lower IQs compared to other races, a claim I am trying so hard to reject?

I have been on nairaland religious section for a long time and have seen monikers come and go, and he will not qualify to be among the top 20 intelligent people on this section ( not even among Christians).

As the saying goes; the emptiest drum makes the loudest noise.

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