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diluminati: Many people confuse Atheist with agnostics and the likes. This thread is to set the record straight in what Atheist dont believe in so people will get the idea. so what are the ideas, beliefs, superstitions, myths that Atheist dont believe in?

1. Jesus
2.God
3.Allah
4. Miracles
5.Spirits
6.Angels
7.Satan
8.. . . . . . . please continue

I'll call myself an Agnostic Atheist because even though I don't believe in any of the above, I still don't rule out a remote possibility that there could be some supernatural being. But pending when there is evidence for that, I still refuse to believe. But all religious gods are false and don't exist because they are all man made.

CHIMSKY: My brothers and sisters.There is a universal law of cause and effect.An old latin maxim goes 'work is prayer'.If you really want to succeed,pray as hard as you work,and work as hard as you pray and do not substitute one for the other.And this goes for all Moslem,Christian,Animist etc

You don't need prayer to be successful. Praying is a waste of time. All you need is hard work with some luck.

p.desmond:
Thank you, like how much will the KLM ticket cost? Sorry I forgot to ask them over there in Abuja, I also read Egyptain Airways fly to Shipol as well.

You can check the link below for cost of KLM flights. There are other cheap airlines you can use like Iberia and Turkish Airline.

http://www.klm.com/travel/ng_en/index.htm

p.desmond:
2good, ofcourse you did, thank you lots for your assistance, I really appreciate from the very start. Are you still in Netherlands? I found out that KLM seems to be the best, what do you think? Glad to see you here.....

I have graduated and relocated away from the Netherlands because I got job in anther country in the Euro-zone but very much still in Europe. KLM is the best to the Netherlands if you can afford it because they take you straight to Schiphol in Amsterdam but its also quite expensive relatively to some other airlines which transit. So if you have the money and want a stress free flight, then go the way of KLM and I promise you that it will be a relaxed flight.

israel ben-zion:
On May 29, 2003, over 450 international leaders converged in New York City for the Jerusalem Prayer Banquet, where they signed the Prayer Resolution that would launch the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem.  Today, believers in over 175 nations are a part of this global prayer movement which is now the largest Israel-focused prayer movement in history.

Add Your Voice - Sign The Resolution!

Join with over 1200 Christian leaders and millions of believer in standing in prayer for Israel on the first Sunday of every October and become a signatory to this prayer resolution.


RESOLUTION for a CALL to PRAYER

UNDERSTANDING... that we are children of Abraham by faith, the "wild olive branch" grafted into the root of G-d's covenant (Romans 11:17-26), and,

RECOGNIZING... that G-d has kept his word to Abraham and His descendants and settled them in their homeland again, according to the word of the prophets (Amos 9:14-15), (Ezekiel 36: esp. v.24), and,

RECOGNIZING... that we have a biblical mandate according to Psalm 122, and many other Scriptures to seek the good and prosperity of Jerusalem, until the Lord makes her a praise in all the earth, and

AFFIRMING... that G-d's love and intended blessing is for all nations and peoples, and that we have goodwill and love for all mankind, including all inhabitants of the Holy Land, and desire peace in this entire region;

WE, THE UNDERSIGNED call upon all men and women of prayer to yearly set aside the First Sunday in October, near the season of Yom Kippur, as the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem.


http://www.daytopray.com/difference/resolution

The problem with you Christians is ignorance. Do you know the history behind the creation of the state of Israel and the illegal Palestinian land grab that the Israelite have been involved in since 1967? Read history and try to correct it rather than just open your mouth and waste you time praying while doing nothing to solve the real problem which have been color coated by religious delusion.

p.desmond:
Hi guys, am happy to inform you that I have just collected my MVV Visa 1 year multiple entry type D with no questions asked. To God be the glory.

Did I not tell you the visa is almost automatic once the school applies and get approval an for you in the Netherlands? Well congrats on your MVV and I wish you the best in your studies in Europe.

4reigningqueen: I just received a text which says "All Christians are praying by 12am tonight for 15mins to call confusion to the bokoharam sect in one voice to God.Join us send this to 10 people plz"
Did you also receive it?
Since we do not seem to be getting it right in terms of secuirity i guess prayer is the next thing.

Don't you guys get tired? It is only a fool that tries the same thing over and over again without achieving result each time. It should be obvious to you now that all your prayers are a waste of time. Propose a better way of solving this problem rather than wasting your time praying.

Oluwa means our god. The yoruba's have been using that word before the christian missionaries set foot on African soil, so why do you think it is exclusively meant for your Christian god and not one of the other gods or diety?

bamto:
Following my admittance into nairaland and discovery that it was owned by OLUWAseun Osewa, I reasonably assumed he was a theist. It wasn't long before I realised he is in fact an atheist. Methinks names help in no small way to put one's beliefs in perspective especially as Africans. Seun, kindly consider a name change or at least delete the 'oluwa' in your name to halt the misrepresentation.

Check the various definitions of god according to Encarta dictionary:


god [god]
noun (plural gods)
1. supernatural being: one of a group of supernatural male beings in some religions, each of which is worshiped as the personification or controller of some aspect of the universe
Thor, the Norse god of thunder

2. figure or image: a representation of a god, used as an object of worship
the little bronze god standing in a niche above the altar

3. something that dominates: something that is so important that it takes over somebody's life (informal)
worshiping the false god of fame

4. somebody admired: a man who is widely admired or imitated (informal)
He was one of the rock music gods of the early Seventies.

In summary, the Oluwa doesn't have to be your god so get over it

sessydoo: I got this from a contact. US Senate has passed the 'Obama
Health Care' bill into law& the
implementation would commence
on 23/03/ 2013.This bill would
require all Americans to be
implanted with a Radio Frequency
Identification (RFID) chip in order
to access medical care. The device
will be implanted on the forehead
or on the arm

This is to fulfil the prophesy in the Book of Revelation 13:15-18
concerning the MARK OF THE
BEAST! Are you still in doubt
concerning the ENDTIME?
GET READY! The rapture is near

Questions
1) Why is the chip being
implanted exactly where the Bible
says it would be. Why on the hand
and forehead. Why not anywhere
else?
(2) Why is it being connected to
your bank account? Remember the Bible says you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark. And guess what ! The chip is connected to your financial details
Ref: check this on youtube. you can also google other relevant stories on this. The end is nearer than we can ever imagine. May his grace see us through
666 Micro Chip Implant Coming March 23, 2013

Illiteracy is a disease. You have a brain so use it well.

p.desmond:
@ Fili24 & Yemmy,

Hi guys, I want to thank you for all your advise and assistances. I really appreciate it. Please I will be going to the Embassy for MVV Visa issuance soon maybe next week. I really need your advise on what and what I should keep in mind.

Please if you have any experience with Netherlands Embassy please your advise will be appreciated. Thank you.

Desmond if the school apply and get a visa approval for you, you will not have any problem at the embassy. As far as I know, there have been 100% visa success rate for people who got their approval from the Netherlands except of course your application was fraudulent. In my time they only asked me why I want to go to The Netherlands and I just told them the reason which is to study. They did not ask me any other question. Also check the embassy website and carry every application material you need for your visa application.
All the best.

buzugee: jewish mythology ? hamitic and shemitic has nothing to do with jewish mythology but nevertheless the shemitic negros are the israelites. we have the shemitic moabites ( chinese ), shemitic ammonites ( japanese ), shemitic edomites ( white folks ), shemitic ishmaelites ( arabs ), and shemitic israelites ( negros ). then we have the hamites under which we have cushites, phut, caananites,

then we have the japhetites who are the polynesians and mongoloid peoples of the world. we all different stock bruh.

Ghosh! Never knew you were this insane. You really need the help of a psychiatrist. Sorry for the insult but you really need help.

PAGAN 9JA:
ofcourse not. it was only after the rise of christianity did the christians start calling all traditionalists in europe as Pagan. the word Pagan didnt even exist in those early stages of christian persecution, so you dont need to make up stories.

and where is your evidence for this claim?

Logicbwoy: Thats what I thought

Have they ban MacDaddy01 again? lol

vladimiros: said it all, that one that annoys me, why not take responsibilty?

Exactly at the bolded and coloured. Religion tells people that god is the one that determines what will be and that what ever effort they(religionist) put into their life doesn't matter since god is the one that giveth and taketh. Its just all about living your life in self denial

buzugee: hey Brah, obviously you are not an id-iot so you should let it slide of your back. wasnt nothing personal. accept my apologies if you were offended. however i have to iterate that you are a crazy son of a gun for thinking atheism will not get you smoked like eja shawa when the lord returns on that faithful day of judgement we will change your name from 2good to 2smoked

better. no wahala. cased settled. now back to the topic!

ijawkid: Lol..

No mind 2good....

He wants to recruit more atheists.....

See this blind follower. Your bible sef talk say if you follow a blind man una 2 go fall inside a pit. So make U continue

buzugee: LOL Bruh it wasnt even nothing to do with that. the guy said some underhanded stuff to me yesterday. thats all this was. i was recompensing. scripture do say it is a righteous thing to recompense to those that trouble you 2 thessalonians 1 vs 6

Quote what I said to warrant your calling me an i-diot. Its obvious you have no better defense to exonerate yourself..

buzugee: dont listen to that i-diot called 2good. ignore religion but read your bible. that id-iot 2good is looking to recruit for his father the devil

Buzugee you can see how intolerant you are. Do you have to call me an i-diot in order to make your point known? That is the problem with religion. Instead of making your point logical, you go about insulting people that query your believes simply because you have no logical proof to back all what you believe.
Also why threaten the OP with hell fire? Is there no better proof you can give besides the lame one you just provided. Worst of all is that you are one of the most racist religionist just like the KKK and believe there is a heaven waiting for you. SMH for you.

vladimiros: on sunday after church, my church offers 5 pm house prayers, on the way back from church my dad wants to listen to christian music, on wednesdays and friday, everybody wants to go to church service.

I don't want to sound like an atheist but it is "burdening" MASSIVELY, I know I have my opinions, but do you have to, anytime I confront my parents on this they call me "atheist wannabee". and it not only them many Nigerians do it.

Is it a sin to believe in God, meditate, go to church on sunday, if you love your church so much pay 20% tithe..?

This Over religious habit has taken us as a nation nowhere. nowhere, we are fvcking corrupt for people who claim to be close to God, and some of this activities start from the Church, I don't know any church that has not made it a business and are constantsly using real life business tricks like "Social proof" to attract more "customers".

why?, do you have to do all that

it so bad that you can't talk about ur problem, without someone link it to God

You are asking pertinent questions and it won't be long before you will discover that religion is a waste of time and the whole god concept especially as practiced in Nigeria is a fraud. People will hate you for questioning the status quo(religion) but in order to live your life in a way that makes you not to look like a hypocrite, you have to fvcking dump religion and the entire god concept.

frosbel: And yet 90% of the topics raised in this section are by bored atheists who have a grudge against the God they do not believe exists

May be you are specifically referring to McDaddy01. Most Atheist don't have time opening anti christian threads

Watch this clips about The Netherlands and how bicycle have contributed to an improved life style for them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBdf9jYj7o

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lilcutie8916: i am sure non of u atheists have been to a crusade before, cos there u will see the awsome power of GOD where the lame walk the blind see the deaf hear and all typesa of miracles happening in front of ur very eyes. Even in the presence of all these u still dchnose not to believe. This only shows that u re not as intelligent as u claim u re or the devil has just choosed to make u his play things. So any type of arguement any one raises here is just a waste o time because ur hearts have been hardened even though the truth iks staring u in the face. So just because u dont like something doesnt mean it isnt true so i wish u all well in all ur endeavours and may GOD be with u.

I went to countless number of crusades when I was a christian years back and all the so called miracles people alleged to have received, were miracles like "I had a chronic headache and now it has disappear" or "my child have been sick for sometimes now but the pain have disappear".
I know alot of people with disabilities that have gone for countless number of crusade and are yet to get any healing. People that claim to have seen miracles, always base their experience on hear say and never a first hand encounter including you the OP.

justaqad: you quoted the verse out of context to suit your hypocritical interest.
Read the whole verse.the quran wont bite i promise.
Quran is the revealed book and guidance for all beleivers,not hadith,

Really funny. There is no need for further discussion. You selectively pick verses that suit you intentions and called mine out of context and hypocritical. That is the problem with religion. People feel they have understanding while others don't have understanding and everybody get their inspiration from thesame book.

justaqad: Islam does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur’an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad -peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah. The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder, “…Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” (al-An’am 6:151) and Allah says in the Qur’an, “Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)” (al-Isra’ 17:33). According to the Qur’an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al- Ma’idah 5:32) However,the Qur’an says, “kill them wherever you find them…” as it is mentioned Surah al-Nisa’ 4:89. The answer is simple and that is, you should read these verses in their textual and historical context. You should read the whole verse and it is better that you read few verses before and few after. Read the full text and see what is said: “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that
of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa’ 4:89-91) Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one any where? These verses were revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non- Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the “terrorist”. These verses are not a permission for “terrorism” but they are a warning against the “terrorists.” But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized. It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals

You asked me for proof of one of my earlier quote and I gave you. Again I will ask you thesame question and just want an honest answer of yes or no from you.
Is this verse from the Quran?

Quran-4:89— “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades (change to other religions), seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”

spenca: This the big p a lot have coz e is not an egyptian cleric does not mean its not evident it the holy book,ma shuld not say wah dey know not of ,this is a social law,you all are responding to go to the book yourself and point where its said that you kill those that reject or aint advocates of Islam!if u can please do this i would know that yes Islam lacks free will...

Tell me if this text from the Quran is wrong.

Quran-4:89— “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades (change to other religions), seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”

justaqad: prove ur point from the quran.

Are you more learned than the Egyptian Islamic cleric that categorically said you will be killed if you denounce Islam?

justaqad: ur right to some degree,but it is never sanctioned in the quran.
Islam is a religion of conviction

No I am not right to some degree but absolutely right. The people that practice these acts, take their inspiration from texts in the Quran. Maybe the educated Muslims are practicing a dilute form of Islam which is not what the prophet Mohammed left after he died.

tbaba1234: Watched it! ...

What's the point? ...

It's just a story....

You should be better than this!

Its not just a story but a very clear illustration of what the religion teaches. It is punishable by death to renounce Islam in several Islamic countries

toba: Ok. I really do not care whether u believe in any god or gods. Im simply challenging the BS you've posted here. BTW what's ur proof that Men created god?


Believing or disbelieving is a matter of choice and i really do not care if u believe now or choose to believe in the future

U are simply talking out of ignorance. What has believing in God got to do with how men chose to lead and rule their people? Syria is an Islamic country yet they are fighting themselves cos of bad leadership. Do u have any proof that the crisis going on in that country has to do with believing or disbelieving in God? Do atheist and those that do not believe in anything also go morally and ethically wrong? Guy its too early to start chatting BS. Try to reason like a normal human being


Stop getting confused. If certain % of pple chose to believe in spirits and forces responsible for creation or life, they can be easily aligned with those that believe in God cos by definition, God is a spirit and he's said to be the force behind the earth or our world today. This automatically 'kills' ur trying to align the other aspect of the people with atheists/sceptics. Therefore ur use of word 'Many' is still very very wrong.

with this, u are still wrong. read my comment above

You are so ignorant that you see the truth and still decide to be ignorant because of religious brainwashing. I have no time arguing with an ignoramus like you. continue to live in your delusion

toba: This is your first goof cos Agnostic arent atheist. They'll tell u they belong in between? i.e I don't know but atheists tells u they Know

U are simply talking nonsense and convulsing early in the morning. What does the same table says about ur frivolous claim? What % do u consider as many amongst a whole?

You are saying nonsense. I don't believe in any of the god in existence today including your god because it was created by men that didn't understand how the world works. I also will not categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a god but he currently remain a myth until you give a reasonable proof. How many of the countries there have more than 50% believing in god and compare that with Nigeria where more than 85% believe in god based on census result. Yet the suffering and poverty in Nigeria is way more than what you can imagine in many of these countries. 14 out of 33 of the countries there have more than 50% believing in god meaning that 19 of the countries on the list have more than 50% as Atheist and skeptics.

P.S. this are the possible English definition of 'many' so you can educate yourself.

a lot of, lots of, numerous, loads of (informal), countless, several, various, scores of, sundry, voluminous