₦airaland Forum

SIRTee15:
U've not said anything new....
anybody earning 658k per month in nigeria will afford the comfort nigeria has to offer.
For those who see material wealth as the goal, that should be ok....
but not for some, not everybody suffers from poverty mentality which has completely destroyed the psyche of an average nigerian irrespective of socioeconomic background......
I was earning 500k per month in nigeria when I resigned my job and came to the west for training...
I wasn't satisfied with the my career prospect and felt the only gain was my huge monthly salary....
I concluded there was more to my career than what Nigeria has to offer and decided to relocate and I have no regret whatsoever......
If I have any regret at all, it was I didn't motivate myself early enough to leave........
That would have afforded me the opportunity to engage in training for a longer period than what I could possibly do now.....

Nobody is painting a rossy picture of the west...
It is what it is- developed....
and until Nigeria catch up in the area of research and development, I don't see any reversal of the present migration trend.....

I guess you come from a privilege background because I don't understand why u should be complaining about taking metro to class or working per-time....
Politicians in Europe ride bicycle to work while both obama's daughters work per-time right from age 16....so whats the big deal.....

You've told us the luxuries and pecks associated with your work but u yet to tell us exactly what u do and whether your foreign degrees gave u an edge in securing the job....
Anyway, thank God for your privilege background, a lot of Nigerian youths with foreign degrees are roaming naija street without a job, so don't blame their contemporaries who desire to secure their future via foreign marriage....
Rather blame the system that made Nigeria a mess for everyone except a privilege few.....

Thumbs up bro. I work for one of the financial services regulatory agencies where I build software systems and also advice on the use of technology in monitoring compliance . I had also previously worked in the fintech arm of a financial institution. I considered other prospects other than money before making my decision. Money was not a factor when I decided to move to Nigeria as I was earning a meagre N30k monthly. On the other hand, I’m sure you’ll agree with me that driving a car in New York is more comfortable than being on the metro. This has nothing to do with complaining about riding on the bus. No two human beings are composed the same way and I am happier being in Africa than being in the United States or United Kingdom and that has no correlation with poverty mentality as it’s a choice I made.
I believe people worked/ died to build the systems we all commend in the developed world for themselves and not for economic immigrants from Africa. I didn’t see any extraordinary prospect that was difficult to achieve in Africa and moved away after my studies.

Dear sir , as you don’t display your products along with an associate price I don’t see how you want early adopters to patronise your business. This is 2019 I can’t be calling multiple numbers for pricing and other relevant information when the most basic pieces of information about your products are no where to be found

SIRTee15:
Quality of life matters, u can't say it should be ignored just because of money....
In case of dire emergency in naija, that's when u will realise money can't buy life....
As u said u need good wages to live a life of comfort in naija.....
This include good schools, good hospitals, good residential apartments, good cars, foreign travels....
Hospital cleaners in uk travel to Barbados n Malta for holidays, they have their own home, their own cars, ownership of IPhone is not class but choice, if their kids work hard in school they can go to oxford or cambridge, n they don't have to worry about basic needs......
A child not academically gifted can exploit other opportunities according to his talent n make something out of his life.....
If Anthony Joshua had grown up in Nigeria, he would have ended up an agbero......
That to me is a definition of a good quality of life n a functioning society....
99.99% of Nigerians will never earn 658k in a month, neither will they be opportune to embezzle public funds.....
So a good life will forever be a mirage to them.....
Of course, some Nigerians in uk wouldn't mind coming back home if they can secure a 400k per month job....
But how many of such jobs are open for starters or at entry level.....

Its becoming obvious most Nigerians dont really care about this country.....
So long as they can secure their dream job, the rest can go n ****......
No wonder they support the likes buhari n atiku....

Sir I look at this thing from a different perspective.At the time I left nigeria I was from a middle class family that could afford the basics of life and lived in a nice quiet neighbourhood in Abuja/lagos. Studied at a small private uni in USA sharing a room with a Native Jewish American . Each time I visited Abuja during the summer/Christmas i could physically see people around me making progress ( growing in their careers, expanding businesses and more acquisitions for some) . For one or two people you hear bout one challenge or the other but overall people i knew were doing okay in Nigeria. Back in USA the typical Nigerian student was about studying / going through the tedious task of adjusting one’s immigration status after studying / looking for employment sponsors / making do with menial jobs while hoping for better days. I got bored with the country and couldn’t wait to complete my studies and leave. Two months after commencement I moved to U.K. to pursue graduate school and Also remained for one year after graduate school. I saw the aggressive hustle of my fellow Nigerians trying to force friendship on uninterested Brits and the same struggle of earning with the left to spend with the right . Saw some of the Nigerian success stories in England that people talked so much about and said to myself that I’ll do much better than this in africa. One year after completing graduate school I moved to lagos for NYSC and have since been working in naij/Ghana. I believe I am more comfortable than I was in England or east coast America because I have instant access to private Medicare ( part of the benefit offered by my employer) as opposed to the long queues at nhs public Medicare facilities, drive my car which I paid down as opposed to using the metro in ny / monthly auto payment outside downtown nyc , I live 3 miles from my office (15-20mins drive ) as opposed to the 50 mins to 1 hour bus ride I had to seat through in the west, get as much electricity I want from combining public power supply and back up power supply, I have a much stronger network in Africa , able to save a much higher percentage of my earning, still get to take vacations , closer to family building a much wider network across my industry. I derive more satisfaction from this than I did living in two first world countries. For the struggling menial worker in Nigeria I will encourage an economic migration to first world countries but for those doing decently well a migration to USA or Canada needs to be well planned / thought out . Seeking a Canadian or British or American education for the sole purpose of migrating may be counter productive of not properly planned. Nigerians in the west are fond of painting a heaven-like picture of the west which is often not an all-round representation of life in the western world . Canada today has a high tax rate and jobs are difficult to come by except highly skilled roles but the impression I get from nairaland is that their are lots of jobs in Canada looking for candidates to fill up.

Joromi12:
where is d good job Do u get to enjoy good health care We have seen where lack of oxygen killed pple, where accident victims died like fowls.. the so called small house can be sold and u come to nigeria to retire. It lasts over 400 years. D so called ones u build in 9ja after 30 years is an eyesore. Post oil what is nigerias fate

Every nation / state /city has challenges . It is left for us to decide where we want to settle. For me I have lived in U.K., Nigeria as well as North America and I am yet to regret working in nigeriA. I started from 30k a month as a youth corper and two years later I was already netting 658k a month excluding estacode which I earn once in a while when nominated to attend a training. I visit USA at least once yearly and U.K. at least twice yearly and people earning the equivalent of 15-35M annually tell me how they’d relocate to naij if they get a 500k per month job. Leave all those lack of oxygen you are lamenting about . Someone smart will see an opportunity in the challenge and fill in the gap while earning money. One of my former classmates at mastercard in USA is struggling to get transferred to their lagos office . Comfort can be expensive in Nigeria but once it can be afforded a good doing Nigerian is not likely to be struggling to be accepted by an European or American or struggling for residence permit and the likes. In my home state my parents home was built in 1984 and it’s still very lovely with good maintenance. Maintenance is key. Good Jobs are not easy to come by anywhere . I only decided to look for/continue to look for a good job in Africa .

TheManOfTheYear:
God bless you for this comment.

That's what I keep letting everyone to understand, the UK is not a favourable country to settle down in.
They may have a top notch world class education but their immigration policy is very strict especially towards most of their former colonies.

Coupled with the fact that it's very hard to make money in a country like the UK, you spend years paying for mortgage of an apartment that is not even bigger than an average gateman's house in naija.

They will tax you down to the shìt in your toilet.
Have you ever wondered why people in the UK are always stingy? Well, you have your answers.

The pound sterling is one currency that you have to work through your nose to earn. The UK is a service-based economy, getting rich in a country like that is seemingly difficult. All they do is work and flex and pay tax, no room to save money.

Spot on bro . I lived there for two years and was always wondering why people struggled to get jobs/sponsorship when they had better options somewhere else. I encouraged one of my Ghanaian friends to look towards Africa but he kept talking bout the importance of foreign work experience and all. He eventually returned to Ghana and got a position at the bank of Ghana ( central bank of Ghana) and built his first house before he clocked 30. Each time I go to Accra he reminds me of the tiny room in lived in while in U.K. and thanks God for where he is today. My other Rwandan friend jokingly told me how her colleagues were doing well in Kigali and how she couldn’t wait to go back to Rwanda. She got returned to work for the justice for Rwanda . Another Nigerian I know got a job as a consultant at the Ethiopian agricultural transformation agency earning descently well. Each time I go to U.K. I feel more and more convinced that I made the right decision to channel my effort towards securing a good job in Africa.
Some people I know in USA came through the study option but they are struggling ( by American standard ) . Now Canada is a popular destination for Nigerians but again I also know people who secured residence permits via provincial nomination/express entry but had better jobs in Nigeria . Someone left a full time position at NCC to work for some small company in Saskatchewan and continues to convert his $CA65k gross salary to his annual package at NCC. Location doesn’t determine it all

Joromi12:
cos no job after studying der. Ur sent home

I don’t think everyone goes to uni with the intention of working and settling in the country of study. And even if they had a favourable immigration policy I‘ don’t think U.K. is an attractive place to settle in. Spend your working years paying for a small house and small car with a couple thousand pounds in savings . Will rather get a good job in Nigeria or South Africa or Ghana than work in U.K. . And I believe some others will share a similar view

Joromi12:
After canada germany and australia cast. Where would we go again. Only a fool goes to UK for studies these days

Why are they fools sir ?

peacengine:
O boy it's degrading, see how people are thanking God for visa. When I got a reason to travel, I will try my luck too. Either way it turns out all well and good

That’s part of what you see on nairaland . Something as basic as a tourist visa which the applicant even pays for .

mane48:
congrat but what approved dis visa is your travel history beginning with
me: l had my degree in Ukraine,went to Slovakia in 2009, UK 2012,Ghana 2016
vo: what were you doing in Slovakia?
me: clinical elective/rotation
vo: UK
me: visiting family

You’ve got a good profile . It will be strange to abandon what you are doing and head to USA as an illegal immigrant . VO was convinced that you’d leave the US at the end of your visit .

RoyalUc:
Hmm...

"She was...convener of SURE-P program."

But I remember vividly how Dr Okonji Ngozi Iweala assured Nigerian on national TV that the SURE-P programme was going to be manned by people of high integrity. And I remember asking her, while sitting in front of my TV, "where are you going to get them from?"

I believe with time, Nigeria with come out of all these challenges.

It’s sad . Which is why when I get angry with how the country is being run under the PMb led government I also ask myself if we should go back to the PDP led government because they looted this country very well.

RoyalUc:
"Olojeme is also the widow to Felix Obuah, the late Chief Security Officer to Jonathan, was said to have fled the country shortly after her sack ..."

EFCC, please, whether she is guilty or not, let her go. She is a Widow. Please I am begging you...

Well sometimes information m/knowledge of a subject matter could change our attitude or perception about a subject matter. I know a little bit about this woman through her son’s reckless lifestyle . She was chairperson of NSITF board , convener of SURE-P program and deputy director of finance for the GEJ reflection campaign. Her son has a flare for owning numerous sport cars and living at high end hotel apartments . Pastors were always at their beck and call to get their share of her loot . She was married to the former head of a foremost ndigbo group and later got pregnant for Jonathan’s CSO . I have been a critic of Buhari’s selective corruption fight but that’s probably because I have little or no information about the referenced case . But on this woman’s case I don’t doubt the report because I’ve known about her and her family for over ten years now

Emmanuel Udom was not a miscreant in Lagos. He was an Executive Director as well as Chief Financial Officer of Zenith Bank which is one of Nigeria's biggest banks valued at $16 billion. He is sounding as though he picked him up from the streets and installed him.

Nbote:
We don cast jare... 95% of those seeking visa to d US are running away from d country with no intention of coming back.. Imagine one of my Uncle of over 60 and his wife abandoned their kids here and ran to d US in d name of visiting their daughter. Dem no gree return...

Spot on bro. I hardly believe these stories because I know lots of people who took advantage of the loopholes in the us immigration system to migrate through non immigrant visas. I’ve never had issues with securing us visas even when I was a corper earning 19k

ayenikunle:
Really? Are you sure

Look out for the visa issuance rates by country and you’ll find that visas are issued daily. My friend and cousin applied for us tourist visas in November and both got issued in Abuja and Lagos respectively . Don’t even understand Nigerians and the whole obsession with us visas .

OmoBendel24:
We have loads of Dropbox, immigrant visas and non immigrant visas, approved for Nigerians all around the world (outside Nigeria) that are not seen by most of us, those could be accounting for the 45% ratio. But definitely not the physical number of approved persons you see at the Lagos or Abuja embassy of theirs, those one can never be more than 10-20% approval rate.

How do you come about your data ? Most people I know at work as well as friends and family don’t have issues securing US visas. Even people with no jobs or income secure US visas easily . Whenever I want to apply for a visa to U.K. or any of the schengen member states I find myself stressed asking for introduction letter from HR , searching for accommodation, getting a bank statement and trying to have some money in the account . But for the US tourist visa the passport and ds160 confirmation page is all that Is relevant

chloride6:
Entry level at Seplat is around 12m.

I'm sure because I saw the offer letter myself.

It’s not entry level sir . My former flat mate worked at seplat HR. 12m is what level 12 earns. In seplat entry level is 16 and each promotion brings down the level by 1 .

Rubbish... While I admit that these are top paying companies the figures are not correct . Entry level at Seplat earns a gross of 6M-7m. For Agip I have an aunt who has been working there as a professional staff for about 23 and her gross is about 26M.

kahal29:
I join you they laugh too. This is another vague campaign promises without any substance.

Imagine...... listing what and what should be done without telling us how it will be done.



As an economist two of those promises caught my attention cause they lacked specifics....

1. “Introduce market friendly fiscal and pricing policies.”

2. “Reduce gradually the rate of unemployment and under-employment to a single digit by 2025.

How does he Intend to achieve or is it another like the one of making one Naira into one Dollar?

As far as I am concerned Atiku has said nothing new.... This is another Bubu Yaya on the way.

I heard Gbenga Daniel last night say the policy document was not yet out. My guess is that the document in circulation may be a draft .

Jiang:
Believe me, if they will do this honestly, am 100% in support of the sell & also removal of subsidy plus even selling of those obsolete refinery to people that can refurbish it & make it work

Yea then I’d process needs to be well structured and transparent . Which is why I continue to see Jonathan as an unpatriotic Nigerian for selling the power plants and discos to political associates who have little or no technical know how .

bixton:
Interesting indeed.
Please how did you measure the positive growth of the companies already privatized to get that conclusion?
Just because a man has pot belly, drives a rolls royce, lives in a 4 storey building means all is okay about him.

For the NSE listed ones their financial statements are available for all to see . No doubt some failed but NNPC is a loss making enterprise and I’m sure you know that state enterprises are hardly profitable in the Nigerian realm. I’m still not sure why NNPC was established but if it was setup as a national oil company as was done in Netherlands , Italy , France , Saudi Arabia ... then it has failed . The government of these countries have for long reduced their interests in their national oil companies . In addition I’ve held informal discussions with two ex CEO ‘s of NNPC independently years apart and they both told me NNPC is not working and filled with multiple issues along with every government ( since the military era ) interfering with its operations .

I really want Nigeria to work but it appears most Nigerians share uncommon visions and desires

Jiang:
Selling isn't the problem, but I can bet that oga atiku will sell it at an extremely cheap price for himself & cronies which will end up making matters worse. Just look at all the companies belonging to Nigeria that was privatised under his watch & you will see how deceitful the man is

Some companies are in a bad shape and may not do well after an acquisition. A good number of the privatised companies are doing well. How does the present state of NNPC profit you as an individual ? The present southern sun hotel use to be a government owned hotel but was privatised and is in a much better state. Oando and forte oil were also privatised government owned enterprises. NNPC of today is not working and not profitable . A working NNPC should be able to compete with aramco, Agip , Total , BP and many more . It’s up to you if you like things the way they are but I can assure you that Nigeria is lagging behind in so many areas and the earlier we do away with strategies that are not working the better . Nigeria is too complex as a country with enormous challenges far beyond the mental capabilities of Buhari and I’d wish that the best candidate wins irrespective of the candidate’s party

henchamb:
What's the proposal for job creation
Restructuring is nowhere to be found after prof burst the empty restructuring mantra.
I think we need buhari to continue. The entrepreneural drive of this administration is worth it.
Most guys now have corporate accounts as a result of cheap and easy CAC registration. Easier to access loans and consular services (if you know)
Kudos to pmb, his investment in security worked hence it's not in Atiku's agenda.

I haven’t decided who to vote for out of all the candidates but I don’t think Buhari should be voted back due to statistics and reality on ground. Lots of job losses , GDP growth very low, businesses are folding up , poverty at its peak. Please show me one business that started under this dispensation and have made a major impact nationally . Registering a company means nothing when the company employs nobody , generates little or no income . I fear for Nigeria if things continue this way for another four years . I’ll love to pay more attention on the score sheet during the campaign as there may be some major milestones accomplished by this government that I may not know about . Till then I don’t think Nigeria needs another 4 years of economic stagnation

jj17cv:
This one weak me infact something is going on with america embassy chai what about virgin passport

VO: Have you traveled out of the country before?
Me: Yes, severally to the UK, Australia and Sweden

I’m not surprised. Ladies and gentlemen a lot of young (age 19 - 45) Nigerians issued with B visas are not returning home. Many go and stay back illegally and it’s becoming difficult for the visa officers to identify such people. My neighbour ( 30 year old lady) went to Atlanta on vacation in November 2017 and is still not back. My cousin in 2012 was issued a B visa along with her parents and sibling to attend their sister’s wedding . Upon return she went back to US in 2014 and has since not returned. We recently heard that she gave birth their. Some days ago a colleague of mine was telling me about his plans to take his family to Dubai for Christmas for the purpose of building some sort of travel history on his passport in preparation for the US visa interview in February. I asked him why he is willing so spend so much on a Dubai trip when he is more interested on a US trip and his response was “ when I get the US visa I’ll want my wife and kids to relocate using the visa “ . He claims his people have asked him to come and worry about adjustment of status when he get there. I heard of another colleague of mine ( don’t know him) who relocated with his family on a B visa earlier in the year. The stories are endless.

The implication of this trend is that genuine vacation seekers may have their applications denied without being able to convince the VO...

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Kayla2:
I’m actually aware of d wedding,which I will be there myself,but I guesss the brides sis want to make money out of it, the bride I knw is a medical doc and I knw her wedding is in April, so my cousin want to use the opportunity, the bride agreed to send her the wedding invitation though, but I don’t know the info required

What kind of rubbish IV is that?

Tell your 'cousin' not to fake any info or document.

The way this USA excites people and makes them lose their mind is hilarious.

lex02:
hello every one, please we have a situation....have anyone ever heard of this

my sisters husband left for usa last week monday, he has a 2years tourist visa which will expire in january 2019. he has been busy at work and decided to visit last week.
after checking in about to board his plane he was asked to step aside that de(the airline) received a mail that he should not be allowed to travel that he should report to the embassy in lagos for further inquires....any one experienced this before? please i need useful informations.

meanwhile he has neva used the visa to travel but he has been to south africa n dubai so many occasion befor he got the usa. alone the line his kids school planned on summer holiday for parents, students, and some members of the school but they were all denied the canada visa.
since his visa was getting near he dcided to rush to america.

would you advice he visits the embassy as requested no timing de just said visit or wud it be better if he stays away for now and apply for a schegen visa or uk just incase the revoke his visa so it wont affect his application

please experienced hands in the house please help us out and if u have had that experience please share the outcome pleeeeee

His visa will most likely have been revoked . They are only inviting him to physically place a revoked placeholder on the visa page . May be they got information that he was goin abuse his visa or

OmoBendel24:
We hear you. But we wee kip "generating revenue for dem", donwori. Isit your "generation"? I can tell you for free that my immediate family members (who aren't citizens of somewhere else with "strong" passports but just Nigerians) all have this US visa, and there's nothing so peculiar than God and having the "know-how" of the process. Ties, genuine intentions and travel history keep counting wella!

I have come to realize too from experience that people who intend to migrate are MOST TIMES the ones that gets refused (we will not agree, but this is a solid observation of mine all the same, let's check our consciences). The ones with the necessary requirements and are not intent on migrating MOSTLY get this US visa. You can go on now and argue with your keyboard! Okay, bye....

You got it spot on. People see the US visa as a very high value document which I still don’t understand . Nigerians go in and out of USA everyday .

sharpman1:
You have evidence of the bolded? 50% seems quite high and not in tandem with reality.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/06/09/us-why-we-revoked-visas-of-nigerians-travelling-to-america/

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/MonthlyNIVIssuances/AUGUST%202018%20-%20NIV%20Issuances%20by%20Nationality%20and%20Visa%20Class.pdf

zamony:
It was a bad day on 27 Sept.. no body receive White paper..
na blue paper them dey give both family and young buddy going for B1/B2 visa...they only gives out white paper to Old man /woman that want to visit their son/daughter....

Our fellows Nigerians DAT went on B1/B2 visa no return home.
so if u don't have strong tides that will makes you returned home...don't waste your time...Or Else you sees Gods Mercy

having traveling experience is nothing this time at Us Embassy!!!

Sir I don’t think your situation represents the reality on ground. B1/B2 visa issuance rate is still about 50% in Nigeria. US visas are not hard to get. The major challenge VO’s in Nigeria encounter is convincing themselves that the applicant in front of them will return after the visit. I still wonder why one will chose to remain in USA illegally on a B visa knowing the restrictions and difficulties they’d encounter getting integrated into the system without the right documentation.

hardeysholar:
Pls any idea on price of hotels around US embassy
Pls need response
Just dey enter Lagos now.

The anchorage hotel by raddisson is walking distance away from the embassy street ( Walter carrington )

smokey12345:
gurus in the House.. friend of mine traveled last year on a visiting visa but he has not come back since and now he called me and said he want to get married in the states. hope it will not affect him later in the future

Lol he will spend a lot of money and may need to make a lot of sacrifice before he can get his status changed