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Problem is that in trying to defend Buhari, even a genius would look very retarded indeed.

Just check all those who do. Like Adeshina.

cruxgemmata:
Offa still dey exist??

E be like say i don find trouble. Make i run.

Offa is doing well. Despite the callous robbery there a while back.

We have always warned them that the fragility of the Nigerian social set up, poverty, corruption and avarice is a grave danger to all.

That an unexpected event could spark a huge rebellion. The oppressed will lose fear for their oppressors.

Where the oppressed could be dragging oppressors out of their houses, loot, burn down I'll gotten wealth and mansions and put oppressors to the sword.

They think we are alarmists and political opponents.

But history is there as a guide. It always repeats itself.

Npower:
*I've not heard this sentence in a while....I saw you with my coro coro eyes*

Nobody wants Coro in their eyes now o. Wetin dey cause that kind joke?

rusher14:
He studied architecture.

Oh now I can laugh.
People claim to know people personally saying he studied Microbiology.

gregyboy:
Yea ibadan was only the printing press in nigdria at then when he wrote he wanted to have is doctorate degree he had to write books and articles before he could get it, after the publication of the book he was awarded the doctorate degree he had wrote wrote the history originally but it was rejected by the ibadan printing press, he later wrote books to correct them but it was too late till today yorubas keep holding us on our neck for his work
Not only that nigeria education further thought his works in school


Please post here the memo please if you have it lets show them benin is way aheaf thier population

I do not have the memo currently. My information scientist relative who found it in Westminster has returned to 9ja for good. I will ask if he has a copy.

If you look carefully those are the staunchest sai Baba, change and next level chanters.

Next level of poverty indeed.

Seun:
I'm grateful to Pastor Chris for giving us something to laugh about in this dark, depressing time.

I would have laughed like you if not that he actually has a Microbiology degree from AAU.

Religion has become a source of ignorance. Unlike Christianity that once championed education in Africa.

Very shameful.

Wow! Creative.

How much is a parlour set like that?

gregyboy:
Most people believe the Portuguese had traded guns with benins inother to subjugate its enemies but that wasnt it, the Portuguese never gave guns to benina because the king of Portugal wont trade guns with a pagan nation attempt made by oba to convert to Christianity to get gun supply was rejected violently by the royal court and it died a natural death with benin still not having guns

This is interesting.

One other misconception is that Benin used others to do slave trade.

Oba had banned slavery long before the British. But as an empire, the Igbo & Yoruba were granted permit to buy and sell themselves only. They requested for it. No Benin trader or slave. I have given evidence of this here on NL years ago.

There was also a detailed European record of slave origins in Africa. None from Benin. I had said it for years and somebody else innocently posted the record here. Vindicating my assertion all along.

Benin eventually began making own guns. The skill lives till today. Even the police armoury still uses descendants of those gun-makers to service guns. They can still make guns with police permit.

gregyboy:
Dont mind egharevba should be blame for all this
He wanted to unite benin to the former western region so he took a missing part of our history and included it to the yoruba history of Oduduwa
So you know Oduduwa hostory on his own was also fabricated to unite the yoruba people, ife became a point of the whole fabrication because at early 20c they discovered art works in ife making it a vital point and a softlaning for thier oduduwa history.... All this happened less than 100yrs ago when the British gave chances for d the locals to tell thier stories,
Before 19c no yoruba knew what was Oduduwa they were not even united as one

Dont let them get into your head......

Ekaladeran never esccaped to ife he had escaped to ughoton at early 10 AD when benin was still politically homogeneous ughoton had happen to be a village that was still very autonomous to benin ekaladeran had stayed there for years he had impregnated the daughter of the enogie and later left up north were no one knew were he had gone to( this was egharevba false attachment of Oduduwa myth) after the death of ogiso a search party went to look for Oduduwa at ughoton the enogie had told them he had left up north to an unknown place, the enogie had showed them is heir eweka who they took back to benin that's uptill told before coronation the oba always visit ughoton for ritual right but egharevba the benin historian had messed the story up just to amalgamate benins to edo

You must remember that the editors of his 1933/34 book were Yoruba. The British really punished us. They refused to allow Benin people build and fund their schools.

For example people from the rich fertile area of Oghada went to the British resident officer in Benin to permit them build and self-fund a school for 100 Oghada boys. They were refused. The British asked them to bring their sons to be sent to Calabar to school. Oba Ovonramwen that went to Calabar didn't return, so nobody sent their sons. On their own the British claimed they had no money to build schools in Benin. But Benin was the most lucrative province in Nigeria officially. Because booming rubber trade for plastic and nascent car industry (tyres) made them lots of cash.

Even churches needed permission to build schools and they preferred areas where the government gave them grants. British had no grant for Benin area. Much of that history is not told.

The British resident had already sent a Memo to Westminster. To warn them that if they allowed Benins to be educated, they would be worst and fiercest opponents of British Rule in Nigeria. Owing to their anger over 1897 and deportation of the king. The memo is in Westminster as we speak.

By 1930s, Yorubas had begun writing the history in their favour. With the British on their side.

I think circumstances forced Egharevba to allow Yoruba meddle with his work. Otherwise they would never have published it.

samuk:
You guys enjoy this free Benin history lessons. The guy can go to the other thread to educate himself on Benin/Yoruba history.

No need to populate this thread with already available information in a similar thread.

As the Benins have already shown in the other thread, the Benin/Ife history was manufactured sometimes after 1823. Before this time there are nothing about Benin/Ife relationship recorded in Benin history.

Europeans stated visiting and recording Benin history since the 1400s AD.

For the first four hundred years of European contact and recording of Benin history, there was nothing about Benin/Ife relationship written or can be found in the numerous European archives that still houses Benin history.

It was the early educated Yorubas with some historians of Benin/Yoruba heritages that stated infusing Yoruba into Benin history in other to create a united western Nigeria which eventually fell apart in 1963 after the mid west walked away due to Yoruba tribalism.

Apart from outright fabrications of evidence to support the new Benin/Ife revisionist history, the scholars went through the vast archives of Benin artworks and begin to ascribe Ife to Benin artworks that originally made references to others tribes such as the Nupe and Igala. Nupe and Igala people were replaced with Ife/Yoruba people.

Statements that were initially made about rulers of now middle belt of Nigeria were now ascribed and presented to be referring to the Ooni of Ife.

They came up with a burial site for Obas of Benin in Ife Orun Oba Ado which was excavated and no human bones found.

On the other thread, gregyboy did a very brilliant job of analysis by analysing one of the Benin artworks that TA011 provided as depicting Ife messager to Benin.

Gregyboy was able to compare the artworks with photos of modern day Nupe and Igala people and they match, the artwork bears no resemblance to photos of Ife/Yoruba people provided.

I already did a summary of this on that thread.

There were also piece of evidence like the cross the messager was wearing that can't be found anywhere in early Ife history.

If you juxtapose all these with other evidences that can still be seen in Benin and early Europeans writing of Benin Idah relationship, you will understand that the Yorubas people are trying to replace other tribes such as the Nupe and Igala in old Benin empire history with themselves.

That's not to say that Benin didn't have some sort of relationship with various different Yoruba tribes such as Owo, Akure, Ekiti, Lagos, etc.

Benin/Ife history is a fake, it was fabricated in the 19th century.

You guys shouldn't expect me to be saying much on this thread because this has already be dealt with in the other thread, anyone interested should go there and read.

Their problem is hubris. They claim being educated. So nobody knows anything in their view.

Actually since 1970, post Biafra war, tribal fault lines have sharpened. Before independence it was there but not as bad. Worse since the 1980s even.

Consider this: by 1977, Queen Idia mask/face was by far the best recognised artwork in Nigeria. It was used as Festac Symbol. If Festac was holding today, can you imagine so called ethnic majorities allow Idia mask? NO WAY! They would find a way to conjure a WAZOBIA symbol.

Dr Idemudia was personal physician to President Nnamdi Azikiwe. He was with Zik in the Caribbean cruise on convalescence when January Coup 1966 occurred.
My alma mater Prof Bello-Osagie served as physician to heads of states from Gowon to IBB. A fact Babangida stated at his funeral in Benin years ago.
Prof Emovon was VC of Unijos in the early 80s.

Ephraim Omorose Akpata was Justice of the supreme court.

Basically before quota system, tribalism and pandering to majority tribes completely took over, the Benins and indeed Edos were recognized for their ability on merit.

Today, it's tribe/religion before talent in appointments.

MetaPhysical:
Ohhh noo...!!

I cant believe you wont engage me on such a fundamental piece of history. I cant believe it!

Everything in your claim of independence and superiority is tied to Benin, Edo, Oba, Ogiso, Igodomigodo....none of which contain your native indigeneous tongue unquely defined in 'gh', "v", 'z'.

This is critical! Foreigners found your land and civilized it. Ooni of Ife is absolutely accurate that Benin is an extension of Yorubaland.

Dispute me with counter facts.

Wetin concer me with Japan? Why are you deflecting

Go and read my posts since 2011. Aside the ones hackers wiped out some years back during attack on Nairaland, I have educated many of your people since then. There's lots on royalty/aristocracy, anthropology, history,PHILOLOGY (not philosophy), science and medicine you can learn from.

I cannot be repeating myself to every new Jambite or people who have just recently got enough mb to browse. I have covered any question you can possibly ask already.

You are not the first to beat your chest in ignorance and hubris and ask that question.

I knew you cannot process logic enough to get the highlighted. Benin names closely resemble Japanese names, do Benin now own Japan?

Your "wetin concern me" attitude shows why many Nigerians of nowadays are very shallow intellectually. They have narrow interests.

Whereas education is universal. You see graduates who cannot hold an intelligent conversation on three topics. Those are easily brainwashed by religion and thrive on hearsay. Like Uselu means Edo belongs to Yoruba. Chai!

Melezenawii:
This guy is highly irresponsible. Very careless and garrulous... Quite unfortunate

I guess he wants to be optimistic.

But in reality, many super foods like crucifers, tumeric, garlic, ginger and others can boost immunity.

BUT it may not be enough in people with serious underlying conditions or the elderly people.

He should not make it look harmless. Some might take it as an excuse to reduce vigilance and compliance.

She should not appear to be dishing out a treatment for something as serious as Covid-19. Which I am sure wasn't his intention.

nony43:
This car is the Prado and Range of the 70s

Na lie o. Benz were there. Toyota Crown (Igwe) was there too. Rover also had some sumptuous products. GMC, Ford and others had big products also.

Murtala Mohammed that overthrew Gowon condemned corruption. OBJ was his deputy. When Murtala died OBJ continued his parsimonious policy. On the surface at least.

In addition, Peugeot began to assemble in 9ja. It became like a national brand.

IBRAHEEM8:
Its called OFAFA in Yoruba.
A very sweet animal.
It usually makes noise in the night.
I don't know the English name look.
If you check the back...it has a small white stripe

Dude the animal nor sweet o. Very lousy taste. The flavour is funny too.

Unless you first rub it in salt and dry very well first.
Back in the day it was the cheapest bushmeat. In fact I would not buy it in the market even now.

Lazy youth in villages go to forests to look for it. Trees with thick climber plants dangling are favourites. Lazy youth pull on those climbers then watch the tree. They will observe the animals move up the tree. There can be up to 20 on a big tree.

I was told all this once as a kid on summer holiday in the village. The meat had no taste to me.

Akuagha in Edo, Owawa in Ado-Akure and I think Nkwakwu or something similar in the East.

MetaPhysical:
The name EDO is Yoruba language.
Uselu is Yoruba language.
Bini is Yoruba language.
Ogisos were the proxies of Ife, foreigners sent to rule the forest people.


Your native language has "gh", "v", "z" with vowelized words.

Why is Edo not in your indigeneous lexicon...or Oba, or Uselu, and many other words sorrounding your palace and his sacred shrines...like Olokun?

You are ruled by a foreigner, an Ife ancestral blood.

Since I can smell your historical and scientific ignorance from thousands of miles away, no need engaging you at all. Continue in your ignorance.

In Japan, 1603-1867 is called the Edo period. A period of most stable peace and stability until then. In Japan names like Sayuki, Osasu, Osamu and others are common names.

In your logic, I should be on my way to claim Kyoto, Tokyo and indeed Japan as Benin territory.

MetaPhysical:
The name EDO is Yoruba language.
Uselu is Yoruba language.
Bini is Yoruba language.
Ogisos were the proxies of Ife, foreigners sent to rule the forest people.


Your native language has "gh", "v", "z" with vowelized words.

Why is Edo not in your indigeneous lexicon...or Oba, or Uselu, and many other words sorrounding your palace and his sacred shrines...like Olokun?

You are ruled by a foreigner, an Ife ancestral blood.

Since I can smell your historical and scientific ignorance from thousands of miles away, no need engaging you at all. Continue in your ignorance.

Anonymous8083:
I'm a female, I had the same issue of going out with a colleague from work. Honestly, I knew better than to accept his request to go out but I guess I was sorta desperate at the time. Funny part is, it never worked out. He stopped calling after the third date, I felt so down like there was something wrong with me. Rejection can be terrible. Things got awkward at the office, he had to tell people he never asked me out which in his defense he never did. Lol, thinking about it now, I feel so stupid. Anyways, we still work together and we're cool now but he has it in his head that he can still get to date me if he wants.
It's sooo annoying.

Eiya. I was actually interested in her sister who sometimes visited her at our workplace.

Though I never told any of them. But I guess the girl after me sensed it. I knew she would do everything to block me from dating her sister so I let it go.

Her sister was smiley, friendly and didn't have this assuming and oversabi, arrogant, gossiping attitude.

The girl actually got interested in me after I put her down seriously. I caught her red-handed gossiping with a manager about me. And what she was reporting to the manager was wrong. I rubbished both of them right there. I wouldn't lick anyone's backside.

Another day she overheard me telling a female colleague how girls more easily fall for fuckboys and get used and dumped. Later they blame the good guys for their poor choices in men.

Unknown to me, a fuckboy just dumped this girl after me lately.

Another manager she was sucking up to was gay. She didn't know but we knew. We used to laugh at her. She was clearly interested in that guy. When she found out that the guy was gay, she began saying things behind his back. She became cool towards him.

I guess a combination of these events made her develop interest in me so suddenly.

She began complimenting my dress sense, bringing lunch for both of us suddenly, discussing her future dreams, etc. I had to politely tell her to stop bringing lunch for me. When it didn't work she began making insinuations of how some people are blind to women who love them, blah blah. It all became too annoying.

To me she was simply a calculating fake arse opportunist.

Mr Onyema dey try.
Aviation is very tough business.
He should be encouraged.

He's been saving 9ja's ass in recent years.

Staphylococcus:
You date good girls that's why you have that assumption.

Try those wild bitches. They will go fvck your dad when you dump them

Lol. If she makes herself my father's whor.e, then that would justify not dating her in the first place.

Daddy sampling a young pussy is a bonus for him.

AK-47 bullet dodged.

I have mentioned mine here on Nairaland a few times over the years.

We were work colleagues. After politely telling her we could not date, she never greeted me again.

Luckily I was about to leave that workplace. But she ensured the last weeks in that workplace were as bad as possible for me.

But I was just laughing. Because she didn't know I was already planning to go before officially turning her down.

I generally don't do workplace romance. Especilally if working together daily. I wasn't gonna start with her.

Because I did not like her to the point of dating her, I had no plan to date her as an ex-colleague.

As my leaving the job would actually have made it easier to date her.

Peacefullove:
Forget that thing . a woman who knows her way will cheat and nothing will happen.. She may just need to wear a Jazz waist bead or wore a ring to protect her.

Lol. Many said that before. You think Jazz is more powerful than the ancestral land?
You never see. People think they are tough and brazenly do it. Ok na. Go do am.
In any case if a woman can go the length of jazz just to cheat and beat taboo, then nothing stops her using jazz to make her hubby useless.
Is that the type of woman you will wish for your brother?

By the way in the clan I was referring too, both jazz and cheating are taboos. Before wedding she's clearly told jazzing her hubby, kids, in-laws and others or trying to deflect her evil deeds lead to severe consequences. Just like infidelity.

So such a woman is really a death angel. She could easily work for Covid-19.

Woman defied God in Eden. And managed to get Adam to defy God too. I get your point. But mankind now has to endure the consequences.

Peacefullove:
I have always said any man who put his trust in Jazz is not only insecure but senseless...

Lol.

The said culture is common to virtually all Edoids tribes. From Edo to Delta.

A woman who knows she has cheatedted should stay away from her kids and hubby. No cooking for them and certainly no sleeping with the hubby. Until she confesses and stones for it.

But even if she doesn't sleep with him or cook for him but the husband becomes aware of the infidelity, then trouble.

I am all about science but I have seen the consequences in the past. I didn't believe until I saw those few cases. Maybe some go scot-free.
But even at that it's stronger in certain clans within a tribe. Aristocracy and royalty certainly.

Elders told us of an older case. In this case the lady admitted only on her death bed. She named whom she cheated with and her admitted it. She was accused by the local egungun deity who forbids adultery. Basically pointed her out from the crowd during the deity festival.

She denied. Egungun asked her to swear. She brazenly did. I guess to save face. She swore to carry the consequences with her head and NOT her child or hubby. She basically called the egungun a liar by doing so.

The hubby lived till about 88. Her child is still alive. The cheating woman died like 50 years ago.

Ok. Less potential stress on our fragile health care. Every caring country should evacuate its citizens abroad in times of global crisis.

motivate555:
The world will definitely change after this. How is the question and what is next?

I hope it does change. That mankind can see that we are after all just human.

Sadly Africa is not ready to change. They still won't build enough hospitals or equip existing ones.

If Covid wasn't ravaging the West and our elite could jet off with their families abroad, most won't bother.

But as they can see, not every time looted money can open Western doors to you.

Hopefully Covid-19 doesn't become a seasonal occurrence every winter like common flu.

Na wa o.

These are people others look up to.

crafteck:
We both know they wont.

Well, the onus is on everyone. A local numb-skull Councillor might suddenly realize his imbecility and key in. Who knows, miracles do happen.

1johnjohn:
What's if I am not in love anymore

In that case you're OYO.

Dangote & Ote$. Na them be "talk na do" called Ogieghele.
Dem nor dey make noise. But their work dey loud like thunder.

More grease.

crafteck:
How do I donate pls

By sending it into my account.

I will pass it on on your behalf.

Actually wards should be doing this too in their own small way. Led by local Councillors. To assist the old, widows/widowers and indeed those in need locally.

I like Dino's slightly rebellious and irreverent ways, albeit selfish like every other Nigerian politician.

But this 5G matter shows that he only graduated with a geography degree as "let my people go".

No matter what the murky nature of Nigerian system allows you to use "dagbo dagbo" to achieve, at times your intellectual deficit becomes apparent.