perambulator: You are right, when a man asks that question he only wants sex. he doesnt see you as a future wife!!!
I didn’t say he wants sex. I said he’s not genuinely looking for an answer because the question is meant to humble and belittle the receiver. Stop accusing me of what I didn’t say
Amen sister. I doubt if there’s any man worth his salt who asks women such a question.
A man who goes after you without first having a basic idea of what you’re worth and have to offer him is definitely an unserious person.
Before even the relationship get serious enough to be called a date, if he’s smart, he can glimpse basic things like looks, mannerisms, temperament, financial abilities etc.
after he decides that you meet the basic surface criteria, he will work to get to know you on a deeper level. And once you’re there, that question is useless. Because It’s the getting-to-know you stage that will let him decide for himself if whatever you’re bringing to the so called table is what he’s looking for.
I’ll advice any woman with self worth to walk away quickly from men who ask such questions. They have no noble intentions
pocohantas: Well said. He never asked me that stupid question. That question is not meant to be answered! Anyone asking that question doesn’t really care about your response. He/she has formed an opinion and anything you say would be used against you.
That said, I brought light skin and vibes. A good man should be able to build an empire out of that.
perambulator: bear in mind there are also a lot of women who dont have much to offer (or bring much to the "table" but feel entitled of feel they should put on a pedestal simply because they are women. In my experience a lot of women also overestimate their real value to a man simply because throughout their youth they get a lot of attention from men seeking sex and men play along because they want sex.. by the time they realise all the attention they get from men is not for marriage it is usually too late to adjust their mindset or to find a husband.
Like I said, you already formed your opinion. And you just proved my point. When you meet a woman, you’ve already decided she has nothing to offer. You asking that question is a way to get them to audition for you. To feed your ego as to why they are “worth” your time. EVEN THOUGH, you’re the one who went after them in the first place. Make it make sense
A woman can answer yes to all these questions in bold and they will still find a way to gaslight and downplay her contributions. That question is never meant to be answered. It’s designed to belittle the person to whom it was being posed
perambulator: No real man survives or wants financial income from a woman. For me, when a man says what do you bring to the table, he means what female qualities do you have. Are you a supportive woman, are you a home maker? are you a woman that will give a man peace, are you capable of having children and raising them properly, are you the kind of woman that will help a man acheive his potential or the type that will drag aman down with drama? are you the kind of woman that a man is proud to call his wife etc etc
Yes there may be times when things are tough and a wife may need to support her husband financially but it is a "loan" so to speak. No man enters a relationship looking for financial support from a woman...at least no real man expects to live of a woman!!!
Bigbright7: The best it for each person in the relationship to offer what they can offer, without being stereotyped. Let men offer to take care of the home, do some house chores, go to the market , bath the kids, and let woman too offer to pay the utility bills, fuel, etc this roles shouldn't be gender based anymore.
Fiscus105: Worthless girls who cannot offer anything but pusssyyyy, who is leech, surely guys will brag upon drilling her pussyyy hard.
No. Guys should be ashamed of sleeping with worthless people who have nothing to offer. Everyone should be ashamed of sleeping with anyone who has no worth. Surely this makes sense to you. No?
nahzyla: 80% of Nigerian men will NEVER do these things. I don't know if it's insensitivity or ignorance. But many of them absolutely DO NOT want to bear the burden of catering after a small child.
Which is just unfortunate for working mothers.
Very unfortunate. That’s why I don’t judge women who don’t want to share in the financial responsibilities with them. Unfortunately given the financial situation, they don’t have a choice but to do so. In addition to doing all the mom/wife stuff.
Those who don’t see how having a woman benefits them are more than ignorant.
Winneygirl: Maternity leave is not enough. There's 9 months of pregnancy, and maternity leave is mostly just 3 months after birth. A 3 month old baby still requires round the clock care and monitoring. Plus frequent hospital visits. Where do you keep the baby while you return to work? The baby needs to be breastfed multiple times during the day, as well as at night. Some jobs are actually very demanding. Some jobs require travelling a lot. Imagine some new mums stuck in traffic for hours while trying to get home to a crying, hungry and sick baby. Now, add the experience of having twins, or having a toddler and nursing a child, or having 3 kids and nursing the fourth. Women give up a lot.
Thank you. Only those who have experienced it can actually realistically talk about it.
The husband has to be more than just supportive, he has to be an integral part of that baby/infant raising stage if the mom has to actually return to work and cope well.
He has to bathe the baby, change diapers, do dishes, wake up for midnight feeds etc. nothing short of that will work. Because the mom is expected to do all that and still go to work 9-5 like the man. It’s only reasonable for the man to share her workload too.
Or they can employ a nanny (not a young child they can exploit) but a grown up maybe one of the grandmothers who can actually care for the new baby while parents go to work.
nahzyla: Women who actually have kids or have been pregnant hardly contribute to these threads so the true situation is hardly ever known. Its mostly men parroting the idea that their wives must work so as to bring something to the table.
Working a morning till evening job while pregnant or pregnant with kids is not a walk in the park. Pregnancy itself is not just moving around with big belly for 9months. Many women suffer severe sickness that makes them sick and nauseated morning till evening while pregnant. It's just that some women are lucky their sickness only lasts the first three months and some few ones don't even get sick at all. Then in the last three months there is waist pain from carrying the pregnancy and constipation and heartburn and difficulty sleeping and God know what else but the same woman is still expected to wake up every weekday and go to work, stay the whole day there, maybe sitting at a desk, and then return back in the evenings.
I can write from now till tomorrow, the truth is that people who have never been pregnant will never understand the difficulty in it.
Then when you put to bed if you are lucky and you have a job in a company where you are given three months paid maternity leave you get to focus on your baby and raise him for three months. Then what next after that? You start dropping a tender three months kid in daycare from 8 in the morning till 6 in the evening because of your job. The same baby that had not collected all their vaccines and immunizations and is still sensitive, you expose that baby to germs and infections (cataarrh and cough, diarrhea ) that children in daycare are prone to getting. You continue like that till they are old enough to go home from school and stay home by themselves, usually around 10/11years old, and at that point it's daycare that has helped you raise your child not you the mother.
The way jobs in society are structured, placed working mothers' lives and wellbeing as an afterthought. The system was arranged to favour men and fathers that don't have to worry about pregnancy and kids.
Magnoliaa: Ohh. Thank you! I literally love you clarified and simple you put this. Yeah. Fulfilled, happy, with everything for a short whole or long with absolutely nothing of the comforts of life... When you put it like this now, I'm definitely going for the short and successful life. And the success include everything- fulfilment, happiness, 'perfection', a great family or career, etc...
But I guess it's (the OP) opened to other interpretations somehow.
True. And you know as humans we are hesitant about spending negativity into existence. So it’s hard for us to actually make a mental decision on what we would prefer if that choice doesn’t involve a long and fulfilled life.
That being said, even with fulfillment,wealth and every desire met, if I had the option to chose a protracted long life (90+), I still wouldn’t. What would I be doing with myself as a 90+ year old? Like wake up and do what? Yes we are awake but what are we doing? Even the healthiest 90+ year old I’ve met are weak and frail. I’m definitely more concerned about how death will come. I would give anything to choose how I die.
I see people saying “long and fulfilled” . while I’m sure that’s what literally most people want, I think the question here is if it was either short fulfilled or long unfulfilled (long and fulfilled not being an option), which would you choose? Na fear dey worry all of una
@OP, I’d choose short and fulfilled. If I had everything I ever wanted and get to enjoy it for a few decades, that’s better than long and miserable. IMO.
Magnoliaa: For thousands of years, spanning the spread of evolution and the rise of civilization through all ages, nay; from the beginning of times, from the first bang that produced the world, I've been meaning to tell you my thoughts and that: I WANT TO PUT YOU IN MY HOUSE, AFTER PUTTING A RING ON IT. But something been dey always hook me for throat , and I'm just saying dammit now! Anyway, anyhow, I have to compliment you.
I honestly LOVE your food pictures. So much. You're a great cook and photographer. ♥️
I can imagine your frustration. I don’t know what goes through their collective heads. Is it that the louder they are, the more the devil will fear them or God will love them more. Insane
MISSCONGENIALITY: Some time last year I went out by 1am to complain to this church that was doing night vigil in an uncompleted flat close to my house. They had mounted 4 giant speakers outside since 9pm and they were not even upto 15inside. A group of people that can hear each other very well without even raising their voices yet they mounted speakers to disturb the whole neighborhood. No one from my street was even there. I struggled through the night to sleep but the vibration and the noise was just too much. I'm a light sleeper and u came home tired hoping to have a good rest only for me need mad people disturbing the whole neighborhood. I patiently waited with the Hope that when they started preaching the bad and the singing will reduce and I will sleep a little. But now way. They never even stopped to preach. I stood up, dressed and opened my gate went there and asked to see their pastor. One dry man came out and I complained to him. He apologized and went in. As I was going into my house I heard him telling his members that someone came to complain. They didn't still reduce the noice so I decided within me that i will deal with them next time. But luckily for me, they didn't come again.
And the worst part is that you can’t complain to anyone about it who can actually do something to make it stop. In fact if you talk too much, then you’re a witch. at their next service, you’ll be the focus of their prayer points and deliverance mission.
This is so interesting You have to admit he makes a fine woman
You know, drag in some form has always been present in different cultures around the world. I believe it’s only been harshly judged in relatively recent times as western influence grew around the areas they colonized . Or maybe the flamboyance of the new age drag queens lends the phenomenon?
The adopted will be made to know he is not my biological son, and I will definitely take care of him as mine but definitely not as my first child and I pray I trained him well not to feel jealous because any atom of jealousy will mean I'm sending him away far away
FlowerGirl040: But I heard one can easily get satisfied with goat meat or purge if eaten much , unlike other meats. Especially goat pepper soup. Right or wrong?