₦airaland Forum

Who is 'society'?

thebosstrevor1:
Your father rules is different from society rules.

I have a friend who is inter racial, his father is a no nonsense man and also hate racism. He identifies with his mother side who is white, literally everything about him is white culture but society calls him black when he either black or white. He also doesn't identify as black.

Whenever you become envious of a social media moneybags, remember that there is a Nonzero chance that s/he is into fraud or runs.

Thanks

Inception:
The smartest of them all.

1. Convert half into a stable currency. It could be USD, EUR or even CFA Franc. If you put in bitcoin, put less than 10% (my risk preference).

2. Buy or put down payment on a residential property. This eliminates the majority of your rent/housing costs for the foreseeable future. You could also use this property for rental income. You could rent out a room, bq, or the entire property if you already have a residence.

3. Invest in stocks. Invest in the Nigerian stock exchange but also invest, preferably more than half, in US/Canada/UK ETFs. I believe Trove works in Nigeria. This is somehow tied to #1. You could buy a stable USD bond, bond ETF or traditional index ETF that follows the NASDAQ, S&P500 or/and the entire market.

4. Invest in 2 - 5 businesses in which you could break even within 6 months to a year:
- Drying & packaging fish (last estimate years ago came under 300k
- Rearing fish: capital intensive ~ 500k minimum. Time conscious.
- Uber/Bolt (buy a Nigerian used car for 400k to 1M and do hire purchase at ~ #15k+ a week

The false sense of security some of us have is sad.

Obviously, this behaviour is not indicative of pastors or twins.

However, I'd still advocated that you FLEE from religion.

Not my intention and I'm always happy to improve my communication skills.

I'll try again.

Debate the particular feminist and not the 'movement'. What, the person can easily disavow your points

advanceDNA:
Guy...why are all your comments Patronizing ...you told me my comments doesn’t flow with logic...it’s like calling someone irrational...I ddnt get angry but explain...yet you are calling paranoid...jeez!

Have a good day. It seems communication between us was muddled.

Also get over yourself. Nobody knows you or is trying to insult you. The world ain't after you bro.


Cheers.

advanceDNA:
Perplex u?? Why on earth do you think I give a flying fvck about perplexing you with my comment...

U technically insulted me saying I’m not logical.
I explained every part and context of my comment and u asked me who I’m arguing with.....u see why I was resisting entering a dialogue...anyways...enjoy the rest of your day

They said he was married to the woman.

BigRocky:
The man went to sleep in a woman's house with five kids that is not his.

Na God go handle this one by himself.

Calculate the money it will cost to take the child to a farther school plus the money to come back to your house.

Calculate the money you could have made say 2 out of 5 days if you were not doing school runs.

*bye.

Magnoliaa:
Okay. By. So answer the question.

I see your argument but I'm not perplexed about the argument itself.

The issue is, who are you arguing with?

Is there a committee of 'champions for feminism'? Or, like in your analogy, 'champions for trans rights'? Even if a group calls themselves this name, do all self acclaimed feminists or trans people know about, support or even care about this "committee of champions"?

You've got to discuss with the person in front of you. If you argue with the nonexistent committee of champions, the person in front of you either has to defend people who are not them or, as is often the case, call you misinformed and say those committee of champions are not "real feminists" or "real trans people".

You essentially will be arguing with yourself.

Cheers and have fun.

advanceDNA:
U are totally entitled to your opinion of what u think aligns with logic or not....I try not argue on nairaland anymore becos I’ve noticed overtime people ignore context, and dialogues almost always become an insulting contest

...Nevertheless, you triggered me, so i’ll shoot a little...

..first, it’s possible for the view of a person a few persons to be different from the view of those championing a cause for a group whether the group was formed or naturally existing group like being female or male...it happens all the time ..in work place, political group, etc..

For example:
many individual Transgender women (I.e men that they are women) don’t support the idea that they should allowed to participate in natural biological women sport....

Why ? There is a reason women sports were created in the first place... that’s because men are not equal...men are stronger and it wasn't considered fair for women and men to compete on the same level because women will almost always come short...
But those championing the cause at national and international level have successfully pushed for trans women to compete. technically making trans women with men muscle, bone mass, to easily outwit real biological women...

Similarly....
the fight of feminism at national level isn’t who should be the head of the family ..... who give a flying fvck about who tags himself or herself the head of a house...? Oh!.the Nairaland feminist care about those things..

Like the transgender example I gave...is the lady you are defending among those at pushing for equal mix of men and women in work places..claiming women are not fairly represented But ignoring the biological nature of women in the expense of men and the company??

Is she among those clamoring for automatic seats for women at company’s board level at the expense of competence irrespective of the gender

The point is...the current feminism champions we have now are just disguising behind equality..it’s Only about power and an unhealthy competition with men..

because if they are all about equality and balanced ...they will also champion equal gender representation among plumbers, mechanic, soldiers, carpenters, auto insurance fee(which is by the way, cheaper for women than men in manat countries) post-child delivery leave..etc

Like I said these power hungry ideologies have rippled down to homes/ marriages where where Husbands and wives are supposed to be a team.... but people now raise funny issues like:

-why should I be the one to cook because I’m female...

-why should I submit to my husband (I always ask, how do women even submit to their husband that makes it tantamount to violating their rights or humanity)

-why should my child carry his father’s name and not the woman’s name...

-why should a child automatically come from his father’s state and not the woman’s state..

-I don’t have to take up my husband’s name...

Don’t get me wrong, husbands and wives can discuss whatever they want and the man can always take the woman’s name if he wishes...but why must it be a war of the sexes among people meant to be a team in marriage?

Seems she (?) Has deactivated.

chatinent:
Rozcol.

Lovely to hear that.

I am of the strong opinion that most Nigerians are either non religious or so incredibly apathetic that they are essentially non religious.

KrazyDave16:
I have left it for those who wants to be "enlightened".

I cannot come and kill myself over something that early christians twisted to the point that one cannot tell which came before or which is true.

1. Did you agree with the president when he called Nigerians lazy? You sidestepped this question.

2. I think you are an important, honest part of the political/government discourse on NL.

3. You (and the World Bank) do not consider all taxes (and levies) that Nigerians actually face. Nigerians: the market seller, the bus driver, the school, etc; are paying 'taxes' up to 20% to 25% every day. These taxes (levies) are collected by groups like NURTW, Market Sellers Association, local 'paramount rulers', etc; with the full backing of the government.
I resent you saying we don't pay enough tax. Have you run a business in Nigeria?

4. Our electricity costs are not low right now. We pay more for electricity per kWH than parts of Canada. Bear in mind that we have less than 5% of the GDP per capita.

It's like someone earning N50,000 paying more per unit for water than someone earning N1,000,000 a month. (Topic for another day).

5. We currently have suppliers in Nigeria for automobile industry. At least for parts like glass and foam and plastics. I think Innoson even does the chassis here (may be wrong). All the suppliers have the same complaints: electricity is expensive, intermittent and they need their own power supply (further blocking capital and increasing operating costs).

Beancounter94:
That's not the type of small scale industry. I am talking of small scale industries that manufacture componets for cars like brakepads, keyholes, lightbulbs, etc etc.

Right not most of that has to be imported from abroad. That's part of the reason why cars made in Nigeria are expensive.



And even then, privatiztion does not work when the government is setting your prices. They did not do that for the GSM sector, and that is why we can have nice things there.

Plus I deeply and truly resent you calling me a government supporter. If we cannot face the reality of our contribution to the mess that is our power sector, as well as the fact that the sector suffers from years of not paying cost reflective tarrifs...even now only some customers pay cost reflective tarrifs, as well as many not paying a thing for the power we use...then we would never get power.

One thing that leaves me feeling very angry with Nigerians is the victim mentality. Suggest we are not paying enough for something and they call you a government supporter. Well, the thing is, even corruption aside, we are not earning enough revenue to pay for a first world level of life. Saying that does not mean I support this government.



Actually, we are not taxed enough (and yes, i ABSOLUTELY hate saying that, but it is the truth).

As per a BBC report



And our tax to gdp ratio is 6.1%, a figure so low, it attracted a UN agency warning report.

NOI was in GEJ's cabinet.

Buhari doesn't even listen to his Vice.

Beancounter94:
PDP was not performing magic.

Between 2006 and 2014 and especially between 2010 to 14 oil prices were at an all time high

This benefited our economy. Even then moat people were still poor and there was still bad security.

Oil prices started crashing from March 2014. By January 2015 Ngozi Okonjo Iweala was warning that whoever won the economy was going to be bad.

By the end of 2015 she was proven right

Consider that for 2013 we were earning $108 per barrel of oil. By 2016 it was down to $40.That's a loss of revenue. Consider also that the price at which we can earn enough revenue from oil rose from $122 per barrel in 2012 to $ 133 now

We were running out of money that GEJ was taking loans to pay salaries. All because of falling oil prices. We were also paying heavily to maintain a subsidy that kept fuel prices low and to keep the naira from falling

We were here before. Between 1973 and 82 oil prices were high. Then came the crash of 1982. By 1983 Shagari was calling for tightening of seatbelts. Nigerians were eating from the dustbin then. Thigs got worse for the rest of the decade and the 1990s.

That's why i don't like APC or pdp. Buhari had tools he could have used to solve the problem. Plus he and gej should have sought advice from Okonjo Iweala on handling the issue.

1. We have small scale manufacturing in industries that work here. Especially the food industry.

2. That's a cunning form of government defence. How many government led projects have been abandoned? How many PPPs have failed because the Public part didn't come up with the money or did, but the money was diverted?
Based on your other comments, you should be aware of the power distribution limitations in Nigeria. Gencos/Discos were privatized just a few years ago. Transmission is still handled exclusively by TCN. Even if you build 10 plants each supplying 10000 MW, you cannot legally transmit that power without the TCN. The same TCN can't handle 4000 MW.

3. Nigeria does not put the recommended proportion of budget in education. Government run schools, especially at the teritary level, are nothing but cash cows.

Your solution to everything is: Nigerians aren't taxed enough. Did you agree with the president when he called Nigerian youth lazy?

Beancounter94:
It has nothing to do with black inferiority

1. To have a successful automotive industry you need lots of small scale manufacturers who would make the varied components that go into a car. That is rendered problematic by the disdain most Nigerians have for technical and vocational education as well as the fact that people prefer to set up businesses selling imported stuff

2. You need power to run 24 hours a day. But when Nigerians celebrate people who refuse to pay their bills and the government chips in by running policies of price controls that prevent power companies from making a profit, ( and anyone pointing that out is an oppressor apparently) you get poor power.


3. You also need a well.funcitioning education system. Here in Nigeria we don't pay the kind of taxes and the kind of fees that we need to adequately fund education so as a result our educational system does not work properly.

If APC knows what's good for them, they'll choose the vice president.

Thailand is notorious for their strict death penalty for drug trafficking.

Good luck to them.

Lol.

Kukuma see the light and leave religion because contradictions full the book.

KrazyDave16:
Me feels getting married is only gonna bring me down.

Besides, using a Bible quote is pointless if the said verse has a contradiction in another chapter.

You can't really project your future based on the past of your potential spouse.

Shine your eye, marry someone you respect and who respects you.

As for 'runs', I await actual stats on students who have done runs. I suspect it is a very high proportion. Being super exclusive on this matter will severely limit your options with truthful people.

sukar886:
Bitter truth, but if you marry the right woman, not this once yahoo boys don use everything wey de there body do ritual

Projector in Chief.

Edit (for others): The fundamental point of feminism is women advocacy.

Everything else depends on which particular feminist you ask. Some want 'equality', some 'equality on demand', some want supremacy, etc. Other than female advocacy, the concept is nebulous: means anything to anybody.

Magnoliaa:
Na so. Gerrout. I projected nothing. You claimed feminism is nebulous and made so many claims concerning it on that thread, said it's not a thing, yet, you're defining it here? Or saying what it is/does?

I'm not doing this with you again.

Also, if you wan naked, naked by yourself.

No prison rebrand anybody.

Magnoliaa:
Lmaoooooo. I'm surprised at your last line. Are you really the one saying that? Watin happen? NL prison don rebrand you? I understand it, sha. If you no learn for that prison, may I naked baff.

Ms Magnolia, you need to stop projecting ideas onto people.

You are 'surprised' because you create narratives in your head based on Jah knows what.

Maybe when you have a conversation with someone, actually read their statements and hold them to only what they do say. Not what you tthink is implied".

Magnoliaa:
Lmaoooooo. I'm surprised at your last line. Are you really the one saying that? Watin happen? NL prison don rebrand you? I understand it, sha. If you no learn for that prison, may I naked baff.

There is no "United Feminism".

There really isn't any 'it' with specific objectives.

What Feminist A thinks is the 'goal' may be the starting point (or even undesired) for Feminist B.

JESHAL:
It has achieved it's poliltcal and social objectives, except it wants special victimhood privileges and status for their gender I don't see it's necessity expect in some cultures that promote girl marriage and gender mutilation, but for it to want equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunities shows how delusional the ideology has become

Sexism is discrimination (and more) based on sex/gender.

Not limited to women.

Feminism, well, depends on which feminist you ask.

In short, feminism is about advocating for women. It is necessary. As are pretty much all advocacy groups.

So let girls and women be made aware of these supposedly deceitful tactics.

As for cookables, don't bite what you can't chew o.

Rozcol:
Nothing difficult in been deceitful for men,they've been using that tactics on women since time immemorial. Please cook the cookables I want the family meetings and dreams lol

Give us the full context.

Lostchild:
When the tiny woman walk to me and slap me, I was perplexed because I never did anything wrong. A voice instantly said to.me it was an evil trap. This was one of the main reason why I didnt slap her back, and if I did, her area or compound boys would have rush me that I am beating a woman.

Watch very well before you get yoke.

If someone tells you thunder for you now you go vex.

This is illegal infringes on the rights of the child, is assault, etc.

Andyvilly:
Ftc again, really jobless today. Schools should engage teachers on a special training programme,bits not easy being a teacher.

If I cook for you now, you'll start calling for family meeting, seeing visions and dreaming dreams. Abegi!

I think it would be extremely difficult to 'deceive' someone into a marriage.

Rozcol:
What if she was deceived into the marriage. Mr cooks go and cook I'm hungry

Marriage is good for many people o.

Also, in a good marriage, there is automatically economies of scale:
- shared expenses
- pooling of resources (shared car, etc)
- different ideas, a soundign board, etc
- support for when one person wants to try somethign out.

I'm not married (SO not wife).

Don't be in situations with people who could slap you.

I also haven't been slapped by a woman so I don't know how I'd react. Hopefully I'd be able catch her hands.

Lostchild:
Yiu have a submissive wife that is why you are seeing things differently. Some women mouth nor good at all.

I even remember 2007, when one tiny woman come slap me innocently. I look the woman, only my one hand feet faint her, but I just walk away from her and wonder what spirit enter her to tempt me.

Your God that did not forewarn you?

Kwantinue?

BirtherOfKings:
first it was not a mistake, all women know what postinor is..so I wld congratulations the two of them..now it's either the child comes to live with my husband and I , the mother wld give up the rights on the child or husband will have to leave my hand and go with his baby mama
The only issue is dat he will have a curse on his head because I will report him to my God