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bukatyne:Then you should understand that your point about broke dudes getting married every Saturday, does nothing to invalidate the fact that women generally seek men with more financial standing, neither does it prove that women generally don't care about financial power. These broke men that are getting married each Saturday are still mostly economically better off than the women marrying them, so it is still a valid proof of the importance of finance in relationships. Even on the broke spectrum, there are levels...and choosing a man who is just one level higher is always a much better deal for women than choosing one who is on the same broke level as they are. |
In a society where pre-marital sex is still seen as a vice, it's not unusual that women will want to keep their perceived virtue intact by stating their first sexual encounter occurred without their consent (rape). Note that unless the lady was abused as a child, which is where paedophilic rapes count, a teen who had a boyfriend, an adolescent who found herself in the company of guys her age, or even an adult who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, could all very easily claim to have been raped their first time just for the reason that they never wanted to have sex, but were made to it after several attempts by the guy involved. The latter category (excluding child abuse) is almost always the prevailing category most of these women fall under, and it is the reason why some men find it hard believing the deflowered via rape claims. |
bukatyne:Are these broke, poor, jobless dudes marrying the likes of Tiwa, Chidinma or Mo Abudu...or are the women they are marrying every Saturday still not within the same spectrum? ![]() |
bukatyne:I'm sorry but I must protest. What does not answering my question have to do with the fights? Is it you and I that are fighting? ![]() |
bukatyne:Bukatyne there is no point arguing this, the ways of God are not partial. I have seen and heard of so many cases of men who claim God told them a certain woman will be their wife only for the woman to turn him down simply because she has not received such ministration from God, as she should. It does not matter whether the woman is his standard or not because when God is involved, there is really no need to fight for it or being convincing because God is perfect and just and has done all the fighting and convincing on behalf of everyone involved. A spiritually mature Christian man would even pray for God to make his steps fruitful by making the sister pliable to his request - this is why such ventures should always go smoothly. Working at relationships after they have begun is not the subject of our conversation here, we are talking about the meeting/courting/wooing phase. |
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fieryy:It was over before it started my dear, you were only just doing a sleek cat-chase of your own tail to my amusement. |
bukatyne: bukatyne:Lol, Buka Buka.. ![]() As you don involve God for the matter, you must also know that the spirit of God is not partial. If God was indeed involved and spiritually led a man to choose a soulmate, then there would absolutely be no need for him to chase that lady in futility, or 'extra' as you put it. Do you know why? Because God would have also ministered to the woman and made it known to her beforehand that the man is indeed her man, and she will as a matter of fact be 'easy' (for lack of a better word) to succumb. The chase, extra chase, excessive chase is NOT the will of God, Allah, or Sango, or of a man, or even of Satan. ![]() It is only in a woman's interest to be chased, begged, cajoled, and wooed excessively - It certainly provides some sense of worth and importance I imagine. |
fieryy:You must be joking if you expect me to go quoting your posts from previous pages. The conservation between you and mindfulness was centered around his lack of a relationship with a woman, not a single mention of self-esteem was made in that exchange. She made fun of him by implying that men will continue to beg women, you jumped in on that and by the end, you stated that he will wake up tomorrow still feeling lonely. I then used your comment to give him a notice to ignore your statement and in general the entire exchange, because women are not the cure to his loneliness or anyone's loneliness for that matter. Your next response was full throttle damage-control by backpedaling and trying to claim you were actually talking about his self-esteem, and not women. I then proceeded to lecture you that self-esteem has nothing to do with the type of loneliness the OP feels because what he feels is occasional loneliness - which by the way, if you already knew, you would never have ascribed it to self-esteem. Now tell me, have I left anything out, or what the bejesus are you running around in circles for? |
fieryy:Girl can't you read? The OP already stated clearly that what he feels is occasional loneliness because he spends time working and reading, yet there are times he still just feels lonely. This is not what self-esteem causes, but boredom. It's not a matter of you could be right or I could be right, when the OP has already determined who is right. |
fieryy:Well you have answered yourself, what you believe is invalid as you cannot make a diagnosis over the internet. Bouts of/occasional loneliness can be cured just by engaging in activities that keep the mind occupied - it has absolutely nothing to do with self esteem. Long spans of loneliness are caused by depression which could be a self-esteem issue. The OP however clearly characterized himself in the former. |
kunleweb:Lol ![]() Rewards which in the context of NL would include a big pat on the back for being attractively mature, for being a gentleman, and being respectful. Count me out mehn, I cannot abide. |
kunleweb:Very real. You can imagine someone implying that the OP will remain lonely because he has no woman. What else would be responsible for this brand of illusion if not the syndrome? |
fieryy:Take note uninspired07, having a woman by your side is NOT the cure for loneliness. Don't let that feeble attempt at striking your confidence take hold. Read the experience of fykes below again: fykes:The best solution is always to seek ways to deal with the loneliness you feel and after you succeed, then you can get a woman. The reasons for this include but are not limited to: 1. You will be more attuned to selecting a woman with near-perfect accuracy...ergo, you will not be motivated by the need to fill a vacuum. 2. You will not need her as an emotional anchor during the course of the relationship because you are very stable in your own emotions. 3. You will not tolerate her bad behaviour for fear of losing her. 4. If she does end up breaking up with you, you will not return to that feeling of emptiness and loneliness. |
cassyrooy:Thanks |
uninspired07:You're welcome. Ans as for the usual suspects, it's deflection tactics as always, it mustn't bother you. ![]() Just be sleak with your responses, and don't latch on or you will keep explaining yourself. |
kunleweb:Manipulation with deflection, emotional blackmail, and sneaky stratagems, is a woman's ultimate weapon. The moment a man becomes immune to all of it, they lose their hold on him. I had my own immunization at birth, not every man is so lucky. ![]() Just watch, this comment is already being interpreted as woman-hate by some even when God, Lucifer, Odysseus, Oprah, & Barack Obama knows it as fact. |
This is what happens when people put themselves on a pedestal for no other worthy reason except having pum pums. You don't have the patience to indulge, chase, or beg, it's because you have an ego. You want to have some financial legroom before embarking on relationships because women require it, you have low self-esteem. You speak about the realities as they are, and you're being disrespectful, bashful, & insulting. ![]() The princess-complex is as real as it comes. @ uninspired07, I hope you have been able to pick relevant points from both sides regardless. Just understand that there is nothing wrong in wanting to develop your finances, or in lacking patience with women who have no obvious interest in you. The best woman to be with is that one which presents you with the least amount of work/obstacles/roadblocks in winning her over, simply because she is already won over in some small measure of her own accord. Developing yourself should be your ultimate goal in life FOR YOURSELF, not because you need it to be better in the eyes of women. Also, making just any woman or every woman feel good about themselves is not your job - there are already multitudes of men doing that. You only just need to find that ONE woman who has a mutual interest in you, hit it off, and make her the object of all your attention and devotion. What every other one thinks is really not your concern. Cheers. |
uninspired07:Much better. ![]() |
uninspired07:Then you might need to edit that post talking about 'politeness' to women, it will be misunderstood and you will be assumed to be a misogynist. ![]() Not indulging women is definitely not the same as being rude or impolite...but believe me, the latter is the common interpretation. |
uninspired07:Me too |
healthserve: ![]() ![]() I like this guy. Some women who can't even go out without some makeup or a good hairdo because it contributes to their worth and esteem, suddenly have an opinion on low self-esteem in a man who ties his own to his finances. Amazing... |
healthserve:Illusion has become an opium for 'modern' women. No, scratch that. Too much "uninformed" knowledge is the opium, illusions are the consequence. |
bukatyne:And he chased you, begged you, and devoted his time just to make sure you fall in love with him? |
fykes:Glad you could share your story for other men to learn from your experience instead of making the same mistake before learning. Seeking out relationships with the opposite sex is never a good substitute for loneliness, NEVER. |
bukatyne:Lol, Buka trust me, most men know what indifference really implies. Playing hard-to-get while maintaining a 'friendly' persona with a man interested in you, is not indifference. Indifference would be complete disregard for the guy. Spot the difference. |
uninspired07:What you mean there is sex, no? ![]() Regarding your second paragraph, there are two interpretations I can glean from that: 1. You might actually have a self-esteem issue as stated by bukatyne, if you attach your self-confidence to money. 2. It may be a case of just trying to avoid embarrassing yourself in the hands of a woman in the long run, which is a little pessimistic if you ask me. How about I offer you a solution? Forget about your financial standing and just try getting into a relationship - remember, it has to start on a basis of mutual interest, not one where you begged for it. Once in it, do what you can emotionally as well as financially. Don't do anything more, don't do anything less. You must keep it at the back of your mind though that it is a relationship and it can end at any time through no fault of yours. Knowing this will save you from the embarrassment you think you will feel if a woman breaks up with you because you already understood it is one of those things - this make it easier to move on with your self esteem intact. What the above solution has effectively done is give you control over yourself and your confidence - it means you can have a relationship and even if it ends the next second, then it will be one of those things not worth feeling embarrassed over. |
uninspired07:Lol, explain this further. I feel what you typed doesn't reflect the message you were trying to pass, and it will be completely misunderstood. |
uninspired07:Companionship is important, very important and if you're feeling lonely, then something is wrong and you must figure that out. The mistake most men make is we often assume the cure to loneliness lies in having a female companion, this is very false and can lead you into the wrong woman. Try to get rid of your loneliness instead of accepting that you're fine with it, just don't make women the go-to alternative. |
bukatyne:What would begging for the time and attention of women be a sign of? |
uninspired07:You've become a made man bro, not in an economic sense but in the awake sense. There's nothing wrong with you. If you're going to beg for or indulge in anything in life, it must be something that improves your overall standing and worth to yourself and your closest friends/family. Regarding your loneliness, try to seek out women who already have a soft spot for you, women who share some common interests with you. You don't need to be wealthy for this. I have come to understand that the best relationships with the opposite sex are those that are not forced, those that start on a stable mould of genuine friendship - this is not a guarantee that you will live happily ever after, but it still beats having it any other way. You must never beg or indulge a woman who has no interest in you. |
czarina:Refresh |
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