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I'm actually struggling to understand what MrPRevailer is saying up there. The Genesis 2:7 he has since been quoting disagrees completely with his “Man has a soul” dogma. |
jesusjnr1:I only said you lost sight of the main issue in Job 1&2 and you went out of your way to comment twice after the bot clamped your other moniker. I don't think it's my imagination here. |
jesusjnr1:Did I strike a nerve? Don't tell me you're feeling intimidated that you had to go use another moniker to reply me. |
Lol if we're going by his theory, then Jesus is also John in Revelation 1:9 since some people don't reason with their brains. Janosky: |
How convenient for you to forcefully input ‘God’ into Acts 20:28c. |
OP already lost sight of the main issue in Job 1&2. |
MaxInDHouse:Ahh you haven't got the gist yet? What he's simply saying is that Jesus will one day come and force everybody inside one religion in the guise of “one big happy family” ![]() So even though he knows there's no Biblical basis for that, he still keeps agitating over it ![]() |
No need for all these emotional tirades. Just go through my comment again. ![]() livingchrist: |
livingchrist:The highlighted is a new one! I can see how you keep updating and updating your theory as you move along. ![]() |
livingchrist:Just imagine this one becoming all emotional now. ![]() Looking at you and the JWs on this thread, whom might an honesthearted observer think is truly representing God's word as truth? You're just making baseless claims here and there and you expect someone to clap for you or what. Mr BODY BODY BODY. The fact that Jehovah, Jesus and the rest of the angels are spirits, doesn't mean they don't have glorious BODIES.(John 4:24, Psalm 104:4) We just can't see them because they're invisible to human eyes(Colossians 1:16, 1John 4:12) 1. Jesus didn't resurrect himself even though John 2:19 might seem like he did. On the day he died on the torture stake, he cried out to his God and entrusted his life-force into his Father's hands so it was Jehovah who resurrected him. (Luke 23:46, Romans 8:11) That's beside the point I'm trying to make here though. 2. Figuratively, Jesus was saying that after he died, Jehovah would give him another BODY that suits him.(1Corinthians 15:38) So the facts remain that God raised Jesus to life in a SPIRITUAL BODY.(1Corinthians 15:42-44, 1Peter 3:18) Those who have been anointed by God's holy spirit and reserved for heavenly life will also have a GLORIOUS BODY like Jesus Christ.(Philippians 3:21) so like Baristter07 has been asking you, would those who go to heaven still retain wounds, scars and blemishes? I saw how you quickly changed your theory to “Jesus didn't rise with scars” ![]() This crafty man won't kill me abeg ![]() You can continue rejecting the Scriptures no wahala but that your “Jesus was more spiritual than physical” nonsense has to stop! ![]() 3. Another implication of your theory would mean that Jesus' baptism at the River Jordan was a charade or a joke? (Mark 1:9) Because your theory is saying that Jesus was never spirit-begotten when God's holy spirit descended like a dove at his baptism? (Matthew 3:17) 4. From the point above, you're trying to tell us that if Jesus wasn't spirit-begotten at his baptism and wasn't resurrected in a spirit body, then he never inherited God's Kingdom? (1Corinthians 15:50) In the secret meeting with Nicodemus, he stressed this to be very important. But if now you're saying that Jesus never became a spirit creature after his resurrection, then that means he never saw the Kingdom of God? Because according to Jesus, whoever “born of spirit IS SPIRIT” and only those ones would see God's Kingdom(John 3:3-6) |
livingchrist:Here's something I don't understand–do you have one specific belief you hold on to or do you make these things up as you go? The simple thing here is that if he didn't resurrected with scars, it means he didn't resurrect with his former body then. And the implication was that he was given a new body. QED |
livingchrist:Mind you, I'm going by your “Jesus rose with a physical body” theory. So after Jesus was resurrected, what did he show to Thomas on the eighth day and why didn't it heal since it's a glorified body? John 20:26-27? |
Barristter07:The crux of the matter! Philippians 3:21 |
And who told you the body healed na? ![]() Jesus healed people of their affliction and sicknesses(Matthew 9:35, Luke 9:11) but according to your theory, was suddenly unable to heal himself for 8 whole days prior to when he met Thomas? ![]() This your “Jesus rose with a physical body” story is wrong from all angles but you've refused to see it. livingchrist: |
livingchrist:The word “corrupt” is an ambitransitive verb. In your screenshot, the intransitive form with the meaning “disintegrate” suggests that an involuntary/natural process took place. Which wasn't the case with Jesus Christ. Jehovah himself performed the operation, so it wasn't a natural process like you might think. If you take out time to think deeply and meditate on the facts, you'll see that haddeylium is in line. All men from Adam til John the Baptist—when they died—underwent natural process of corruption whereas Jesus Christ didn't. Jehovah was the one who disposed of Jesus' body through disintegration[not the intransitive form] so his body didn't go through that process of decaying and rotting like all other dead humans do. The body which Jehovah prepared for Jesus Christ had served the purpose for the ransom sacrifice[Hebrews 10:5,10-12] so Jehovah kept his promise[Psalm 16:10] and resurrected Jesus Christ in an incorruptible, indestructible spirit body.[1Corinthians 15:42-44, 1Peter 3:18] |
MaxInDHouse:At least others will see the post as well ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Of course! In the days of Seth and Enosh, when people began calling on the name of Jehovah it surely wasn't due to the fact that they were seeking Jehovah in sincerity, but that they had begun to misuse Jehovah's name probably even associating his Name with worthless idols and thereby blaspheming his Holy Name. We can evidently see this when Lamech tried to justify gruesome murder using Jehovah's name [Genesis 4:23-26]So that's why Jehovah exercised patience for sometime after the Flood of Noah's day and personally called Abraham out of his hometown[Genesis 12:1, Acts 7:2-3] since he was the only person at that time whose heart was truly complete towards Jehovah amongst his contemporaries, following after the footsteps of Noah and Shem.[Genesis 6:22; 8:20; 9:26] So as to set him apart from all false worship that had been associated with Jehovah's name and so at that point, it became evident that whoever began calling out to the true God on his own account was deceiving himself. ![]() |
As long as I've explained my stand to you no wahala carry go ![]() MuttleyLaff: |
Mr MuttleyLaff make no mistake—you and I aren't having a debate. All I'm saying is that your God which you profess is totally different from the God JWs worship.(Micah 4:5) So we're not on the same page here—if that's what you thought initially. MuttleyLaff: |
You're fully aware that I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that there's no way on earth I'm ever going to agree with you—so why bother in first place? Your fellow brethren in Christ are right here on this thread so you can go ahead to continue arguing and debating over your gods I don't mind. ![]() My interest is only in the OP. MuttleyLaff: |
We've been through this countless times. I don't have time for baseless ideologies. MuttleyLaff: |
Wow. So you had a conversation with one of Jehovah's Witnesses and he was able to explain from the Bible how Jesus is both High Priest and the Lamb? (John 1:29, Hebrews 6:20) How then, did you come about Jesus being God again? Were you able to explain from the Scriptures as he did? Or you expected him to agree with whatever you said even if it's not inline with the Bible? I know the path you're towing now. As High Priest, Jesus offered up himself as that perfect Lamb sacrifice to God! As in just as Aaron appeared before Jehovah's presence in the Most Holy compartment on the Day of Atonement(Leviticus 16:1-34) is the same way Jesus, as High Priest, appeared before Jehovah's presence in the literal heavens, this time not with the blood of bulls and goats which can never make us perfect, but with his own blood to make once and for all atonement(covering) for our sins.[Hebrews 9:11-14, 26] So Jesus didn't appear before himself if that's what you're insinuating. Hebrews 9:24 makes it clear that Jesus appeared before another Entity altogether, Jehovah God himself. It may also shock you that Jesus[the Son of God] also serves in other greater capacities as King[Luke 1:31-33, Revelation 11:15], Mediator of the new covenant[Hebrews 9:15], Judge[John 5:22, Acts 17:31], Head of the Christian congregation[Ephesians 1:22, Colossians 1:18], God's Chief Executioner[Revelation 19:11-15] etc Jesus Christ and Paul made it clear that all of these authorities were given to Jesus by God AFTER he completed his earthly conquest[Matthew 28:18, John 16:33, Philippians 2:9-11] Nevertheless even after all these authorities and kingly rule has been handed over to him, he remains ever humble and never tries to assume equality with his God and Father, Jehovah[Matthew 11:29, Philippians 2:6] So that means he knows that he can never be at the same level with Jehovah who is the King of Eternity[Psalm 93:2, Jeremiah 10:10, Revelation 15:3] which he expressed clearly at John 14:28: “My Father[Jehovah] is GREATER than I am”. This alone cancels out all trinitarian views that try to make Jesus equal to God. When in fact his loyal apostles knew that Jesus couldn't be God and addressed him properly as “the Son of the living God[Jehovah]” and “God's Servant”! [Matthew 16:16, John 20:31, Acts 3:13 compare with Isaiah 42:1] bingbagbo: |
No! You're not still getting my point. What brought about all these things you're telling me? Are you feeling insecure and need someone to validate your beliefs? As in, to nod okay to whatever you say? Be rest assured that person you're looking for isn't me. ![]() supportnija: |
Sorry what's the meaning of all these? ![]() When did I mention your Catholic or any other church? ![]() A lot of people and religions are comfortable praying to “saints” as they call it and that's not acceptable according to the Scriptures. Now why do you feel I'm directing attention to one particular religious organization when in fact you're all just the same? ![]() For a man who claims to be well versed in theology, you seem rather inexperienced to me. supportnija: |
supportnija:Was David bound by the Law of Moses or not? Which will mean he followed a pattern for worship like the rest of Israel, correct? (Exodus 19:5-6, Deuteronomy 6:4-5,13) Didn't God dictate and set a pattern/standard for how worship should be carried out in the land of Israel as recorded in the Bible books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy? the thief by right of Jesus would have been condermned as a thiefThe thief at the side of Jesus wasn't righteous from God's standpoint. He's going to be among the millions of unrighteous ones who will be resurrected here on earth in the future.(Isaiah 26:19, John 5:28-29, Acts 24:15, Revelation 20:12) , see OP , I study a lot including theology, God will never ask you how you worship that day, the few questions are when I was in prison did you visit me, when I was naked did you cloth me, OP ,your question is answered is John4:24, those who worship God must be in truth and in spirit,Humanitarian efforts are not what makes one righteous from God's standpoint. What makes one righteous for everlasting life is coming to know the true God and Jesus Christ, his Son and by listening and obeying God's commands as found in the Bible.(John 3:16,36; 17:3; James 1:22; 1John 5:3) The Bible being inspired of God is meant to be that “lamp” that will guide our “path” to righteousness.(Psalm 119:105, 2Timothy 3:16) God's Word the Bible is filled with commands and principles that guides our decisions about lifestyle, form of worship, dealings with other humans, counsel for husband and wife and children etc. [Matthew 6:9,24, Mark 12:31, John 13:34-35, Colossians 3:18-20] Jesus himself clearly said at Matthew 7:21-23 that at the conclusion of this age/system of things, some people would call him ‘Lord Lord’ and say they performed many POWERFUL WORKS in his name—such as the things you mentioned above. So they hope to get a clean stand before God on their own account which isn't possible. Jesus aptly referred to such ones as “WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS” who do not want any guidance from God in their lifestyle and form of worship. OP you don't have right to Judge how people worship their God.Of course I don't have the right or authority to judge.(Matthew 7:1) That work rests squarely on the shoulders of Jesus Christ who was appointed by his Father to become Judge.(John 5:22) But I'd like to leave you with one scripture for you to meditate on. James 4:17: “Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.” So know that there's no such thing as WILLFUL IGNORANCE when it comes to worship of the true God. |
First of all, the popular notion that all ‘good’ persons go to heaven is an unscriptural belief. It doesn't originate with the Bible. Secondly, you mean that the Bible shouldn't give us rules and direction regarding form of worship? You're implying that everybody can do as they like?—i.e. becoming wise in one's eyes and settings standards for one self which the Bible is clearly against? Proverbs 3:7, 16:25, Romans 12:16 ? supportnija: |
There are some people and religions that believe prayer to and worship of Mary as the mother of Jesus is or should be accepted. Well, Jesus Christ certainly didn’t view things in like manner as Luke 11:27-28 helps us understand that Jesus never gave undue honour or devotion to his mother by addressing her by a specific title.(compare John 2:3,4) On one occasion while Jesus was teaching, someone from the crowd informed Jesus that his mother and brothers were seeking to speak to him, but Jesus showed that his interests were in those who had a real spiritual relationship with God which in effect means that he never gave much attention to those whom he shared blood ties with.(Matthew 12:46-50, Luke 11:28) |
Rivers State ICT Department[TechCreek] located at Aba Road, just before Air Force. Disclaimer: It's not free. bennaz: |
Person go just abandon im brain before he login to Nairaland? ![]() |
So Emusan doesn't know that gender is an attribute of lower life forms on earth? ![]() Angels that are mightier than humans will now become boy and girl in heaven? ![]() |
I don't have time for cho cho cho cho cho! ![]() If Jesus is still a HUMAN(flesh and blood) in heaven after resurrection, that means his baptism at the River Jordan was a charade?(Mark 1:9) So that means you're saying that he was never spirit-begotten at the point of his baptism when God's holy spirit descended like a dove and anointed him as future King in God's Kingdom? (Matthew 3:16-17, John 3:6 compare Isaiah 42:1) And what you're implying will mean that Jesus never inherited God's Kingdom since you say he's flesh and blood in heaven? ![]() 1Corinthians 15:50 ![]() Emusan, embrace truth for once in your life you won't die! Haba! ![]() Emusan: |
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