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JESHAL:
A woman who has a promiscuous past is imprinted by her exes, and damaged for life, I can't take that chance, she has a higher probability of making me father a bastard, and empirically she is proven not to pair bond, there is even a very high probability she would be problematic in marriage and divorce me, remember Nigerian men are accepting non-virgins because they don't have the capacity to get the chaste virgins as they are not high valued enough, remember they are only lucky because our Marital institution has not become a government influenced institution with alimony, child support and child custody laws that favor women like western societies, traditions and religion still influence our Marital values hence women are incentivised to keep their homes, I can bet on my life they would destroy their marriages if they were no traditional values

You are obviously a one-way thinker who bases everything on theories and personal convictions. Try learning from the experience of people around you and stop filling your head with unverified theories.

JESHAL:
Ma, men and women are different, we can't be judged by the same standards, women just exist and they can get sexual access from men, men must have value to a degree whether it's good looks, height,money , status, game, confidence, to get sex, you think majority of men are sexually active with majority of women to the same degree, the answer is a big No, only 10-20% of men are fuccking 80% of women, there are studies that show that women only find 10% of men sexually arousing, the remaining 10% must compensate with good game( toasting skills), money, status to get sexual access to women, the remaining 80% of men are masturbating, watching pornography or paying for sex from cheap prostitutes

Drop the source of your statistics or forever hold your peace.

Where was it done? Was the data collected in Nigeria and analysed?

JESHAL:
Among men masturbation is the norms, sex is the exception, it is very dishonest of you to apply the same standards of morality on both genders when women can get sex easily for doing nothing, men must create their value,women must preserve their value, a man's game is getting sex from a girl, a woman's game is retaining a man after she gives him sex, women want men with a future, men don't want women with a past, because we want to ensure our paternity, a promiscuous woman is likely to make us father a bastard that is not our own, women are very selective with whom they give sexual access to, men might want to fucck but if a woman refuse it won't happen, majority of men don't even know how to approach women talkless of wooing them for sex, the reality is that they are just fantasizing about women they can't have or watching pornography and mastubating, women can get sex anytime they want

You are just speaking plenty English but beating about the bush and coming up with your own made up premises and conclusions.

We are not talking ideologies or theories. We are talking practically.

Do you think all the people you see getting married every Saturday are all virgins?

Do you think all the marriages that have stood the test of time, the women were all virgins?

Or the divorced ones. None of them were virgins when they got married?

Marriage goes beyond marrying a virgin. What of the virgins who go back to their exes? Do you think they are also not capable of giving their husbands another man's child.

I once talked about my husband's ex who got married as a virgin (of course she and my hubby never got intimate). She didn't conceive after some years with her husband. She travelled from her state to where my husband was to ask him to sleep with her, maybe she would get pregnant....

A virgin is advantageous to a large extent but it doesn't guarantee anything. She's still a woman with emotions and feelings.

Try to always base your arguments on real life happenings and not your concocted statistics and ideologies. Go and ask that your uncle, senior friend, cousin etc, especially those ones in marriages that have lasted. Ask them if their wives were virgins.

And please try to use paragraphs.

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Spending123:
So what do we do with this news now?

Don't open the thread

TONYE001:
Sadly, all these definitions are just to justify male promiscuity.

Religion and media aside, there are grave consequences of keeping multiple sexual partners. Some of these may amount to death in the long run.

Men and women, for the good of their health, should maintain only one sexual partner.

Jeshal will wriggle around the topic and look for excuses and reasons to justify his stance that men cannot be virgins. And he must always look for a way to throw in the feminism ideology whether it relates with the discussion or not.

The double standards that a lot of men on this forum exhibit is usually meant to be to their advantage while they throw the women under the bus. They visit brothels, sleep with every female creature they meet and turn around to judge women with stricter standards.

Guys that fornicate, commit adultery, drunkards, drug addicts will quote the scriptures to drive home and foster their agenda/arguments. Do they obey other scriptures in the Bible? Nooo. But they know prov 31.

Virginity virginity...if they meet a virgin, can they abstain all through the dating/courtship period? People that will be begging to put in the tip as if their lives depend on it. They sleep around and deflower girls and dump them. But they want virgins.

Simply ask her why she didn't use you as her emergency contact. Most couples use each other.

ashewoboy:
It doesn't mean. A wife material would wait. If he says he doesn't want to eat then she can now eat her own food. That is how wife materials do.

At least that one is material and not a human being

bukatyne:
2: Buying in bulk is only cheaper for someone who has cashflow.

If a family makes daily/weekly income, they obviously would not be able to buy in bulk.

3: in addition to substituting food, also substitute brands; a pack of ziplock is about N2,700; there are locally sold brandless ziplock for 400 per dozen which does same job.

Morning Fresh is also cheaper than Mama Lemon; what I hated in MF before is now the selling point: the tiny dispenser.

Sunlight detergent vs Ariel etc.

Also learn to be very resourceful: cooking spray is same as rubbing your pan with olive oil or ororo;

Learn where to source for things at a cheaper rate.

Cooking spray kwa...lol. That is a total waste of money especially in this economy. I doubt a lot of people even use it normally. I've never bought it.

eventainment:
who she be abeg?

She owns ROK TV on dstv

This one is not ok.

Did the women consider the husband's mental health when she was cheating and passing another man's child as his own?

Cromagnon:
If I could answer I wouldn't ask now would I
But I'll take your refusal to do same as acquiescence.
But continue with your feminist agenda
Let's see where it will end

Everything to you guys on this forum is feminism.

No point trying to have a conversation when it seems you have your preconceived notions already.

It could be because she knows the amount of meat she bought and one greedy child will go and dish with 3 pieces of meat and pack all the valuables in the soup.

APOSTLEIYKE:
May God continue to bless all women.
My wife will reject all well prepared food and enjoy drinking garri with cold water. She will purposely load water inside freezer to turn them into ice block, break the ice and enjoy chewing them like candy. One day she craved for goat meat peppersoup, I prepared it and served her, only for her to drink the hot water and abandoned the meat. The journey is not easy @4children

That ice craving is universal . My water was always in the freezer. It had to have ice in it. Even my gynecologist didn't object. It seems there's always this internal heat inside that needs cold constantly.

Raphael007:
I give it to my wife, hustling day and night and she was one calm woman with my lovely boys, she never for once stressed me she took it like a champ pregnancy is a journey the thing is you are both pregnant.

Well...I have heard that pregnancy with boys are easier than when she's carrying a girl. My sister has 2 boys and her pregnancies were easy. Mine was a girl and I was admitted thrice in the first trimester.

My friend's first was a girl and she was very sick for about 7months. The second was a body and the sickness was less.

I don't know how true it is but I have heard pregnant women say it.

ayenale1:
Potential fathers should be prepared for constant snoring jeez i hate this, vomiting, spitting, unnecessary request above all craving for pepper in all prepared food if you eat that food my brother u go craze...

I snored ehn! My husband didn't complain, he just kept adjusting me. The vomiting was intense in the first trimester but stopped. I controlled the spitting by always having bitter kola in my mouth.

Tamunoimama:
While driving her to the hospital, Aunty was seriously hitting and slapping me. Her mother in-law pity for me that day because she was equally in the car.
I remembered, the mother-in-law telling her, "no be him give you belle na"

If it was her mother in law driving, would she have been hitting and slapping her?

Lol...the men really try. I know of someone who left surulere to abule egba at 10pm looking for masa for his pregnant wife.

Me.I couldn't just disturb my husband when he would get back home tired to go out and start looking for something. Make man pikin rest.

chatinent:
Pregnant women that will useless your life with errands?

Well, my own is after delivery.

I didn't visit my sis when she delivered cos I wasn't around...

When I came in, after a lil time.. I don't know what she wanted to go and buy. She gave me the small uncle to feed.

Feeding that uncle was the slowest moment of my life.

He will still vomit it.

I nearly give am slap.

The thing pained me.

I spent up to two years feeding that guy I won't lie.


I hail all women who do this.

#Bows.

Patience. It takes patience. They are little humans that consume slowly at first. A woman can sit and breastfeed for 45mins. It can be tiring and confining.

Cromagnon:
did your father cook in your house?
Is your mother a slave?
Abi the child is not from your loins, only from the man.
Were you both paying rent and school fees?
I blame the man for marrying such a shrew

Answer these questions and come to your conclusion. What do you think?

Kobojunkie:
Is that really great advice? No be woman go marry am with all that baggage he dey carry for him mind there? Or is he gay?

He's just a typical single Nigerian Nairaland guy who always has knowledge of what they have not experienced.

chatinent:
Your little angel needs your cuddle

She's been asleep, thank God. And my sleep routine has been distorted.

JESHAL:
Ok
That's how western Feminism started and now 50% of marriages fail woefully, traditional gender roles has always worked in every civilization and every era, only mordern time with Feminism is these reversing nonsense, even shocking Christian women are accepting these

Good night Ma

Marry first and see if everything is about feminism or traditional roles.

The marriages that have lasted 30 40 50yrs, do you think it it's because the husbands stuck only to their "roles".

Or marriages that have failed didn't practice the strict traditional methods. Let's not be deceived or try to "agend". As I said, come back with experienced arguments after you are married.

Lovely night.

JESHAL:
Please you know the roles I'm talking about, cooking, nurturing and cleaning, that most mordern women see as oppressive, don't misinterprete my message, mordern women want to reverse traditional gender roles,

You are quick to quote roles and Prov 37. Do you follow every rule and scripture in the Bible or Prov 37 is the only important one to you because it fosters your agenda.

After you have been married for 6months to a year and you have managed a home with a wife, come back and give us your experience.

You cannot be single and you rubbish the efforts of people that are in the marriages. Do you think a woman leaves her father's house to come and be a slave?

What is cooking that a man cannot do? Or bathing and dressing your own children born from your loins is a crime.

The comment section is filled with single guys imposing their marriage fantasies. Get married first!!!

JESHAL:
I'm not married, but in my father's marriage it's the woman that coordinate the children to do domestic chores or she does it herself,, I have never seen my father cook but he bathed me when I was small for a small period of time compared to my mum, my father is always busy working to take care of his household, me and my bro put on the generator, my mum did it when I was younger because my Dad is always traveling he's not around and I respect that, when he creates time for us it's like gold

So you know better than those who are married based on your parent's marriage? I knew you were talking hypothetically. Because a married man will be wiser and more mature in his utterances.

Before you guys were grown to help your mum out, who did those things?

So as my husband and I are in a young marriage with a 3year old and no househelp or any help whatsoever, who do you think will put on the generator? Who is stronger?

Am I the one to climb stools to change light bulbs especially if I were pregnant. If I were to fall and lose the baby, my husband will say it is a woman's role abi.

You can't be single, without any form of marriage experience and be making categorical statements. Please be guided.

JESHAL:
Reversing gender roles is not scriptural, and you can never misinterprete the context of love to push a misleading narrative, societies that men tried these woman lead and provide, men nurture, have their marriages fail miserable in Western countries, I have statistics that shows what you instigate is not sustainable in the long run, even if the man is a home keeper it must be temporary, then things should return back to the default state for him to have a reasonable marriage

When you and your wife are home, is it you or your wife that puts on the generator when the light goes off?

Who changes the light bulbs in the house?

If there's no water for some reason, who would take the kegs out to fetch water?

Have you ever bath your children before or dressed them up?

Please answer these questions sincerely.

georgeakins:
Not really

Oh I see

JESHAL:
Read the chapters of prov31, she was very economically bouyant even bringing mechandize and still doing her wifely duties regardless of her husband status, she plays a supportive role as he's on his mission, I don't know why you want to accept Feminism theory of equality in marriage where you reverse gender roles and create excuse for it then reframe it as love, just because you think you can be like men, very sad mordern women buy into Feminism dogma even in the church, no wonder America that was a very Christian society is now atheistic and liberal far away from the almighty because women don't want to follow simple instructions from the wisdom of God in proverbs

Read proverbs 31 again if you haven't do it

Read Ephesians 5, 1Peter 3 and 1Corin 13. Proverbs 31 is not the only Bible passage that exists.

Feminism is not my business. When you are actually married and you have a wife that you love, your tight mindset will be loosened. This is not feminism or any theory but real life situation.

Not everything is about feminism. Stop getting stuck and fixated on it.

JESHAL:
Madame go over my comments with Romanoff, I specifically said the man should never be idle, he's a man, a man must work, I don't care how little he makes until he gets back on his feet, the same Bible teaches us a lazy man should eat, let's not play games, proverbs 31 has set the standards for a virtuous woman, God's wisdom that supercedes every man made ideology like Feminism,read and digest it that chapter very well, your role is codified there

So before he gets the job what happens? He should just wake up and be roaming the streets for menial jobs to do. If a man was a manger of operations in an org and he loses his jobs, he should go and carry kpon kpon or do anything just so that he doesn't stay at home while his wife is working. So that he doesn't have to help out with chores.

I am a realistic person and not someone imagining an ideal situation. A man searching for another job is not a lazy man.

I'm not playing games and neither am I talking feminism. I'm talking about a real life situation where husband loses job while wife is still working. He can accept her money for the running of the house but cannot help out. That's hypocrisy and wickedness.

I Peter 3:7, the Bible says the husband should love the wife with consideration...but many of you lack that consideration but are stuck on roles. 1Corin 13 makes us understand about the kind of love God expects us to have...it's not proud, and it is kind.

It's that soapy dance that I can never do or accept.

georgeakins:
Listen to JESHAL. He is realistic and intelligent.

This must be sarcasm

spice123:
Part of my pension helped renew my rent when I lost my job during the pandemic. 25% of my total pension was handed to me. I use IBTC pension fund. You can make your research.

That 25% really helped me in a much needed period. And it was also Stanbic IBTC. They are quite reliable.