₦airaland Forum

osmoseas:
The churches have been kind enough to patronise us in the past few years, and grateful we are. Yet our satisfaction will indeed come when Nigerians will become fully aesthetically aware of their living environment and artistically literate! Till then, we ll keep pushing...

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You will see some people bowing to it soon.

The same set of people that accuse traditionalists of idolatory.

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Ebobi:
Thanks for your comments.

However, I need you to know that employees are products of their employers; just like in a family of terrible parents, it is unlikely to breed children of opposite virtues.

As an employer, do you have mission and vision for your company? Have you laid down processes and procedures to achieve your goals? If not, why do you expect your employees to perform excellently?
At point of employment, you have in mind that an employee will give you value in exchange for salary, and you have not provided the wherewithal to do so, then turn around and blame employees for every fault.

Another question: would you say to your employees, "I'm just helping you guys to earn a living, there is nothing you can add to my life, there is nothing I can learn from youuuuu"? How demotivating do you think this statement is?

@InvertedHammer, the reason why there are very few companies in Nigeria that succeeded to the third generation is because process, people, place were not improved upon! While you say employees should own up to their responsibilities, employers (owner!) must own up to their incompetence to manage man, machine and money.

God bless!

You missed some of my points.
If a task cannot be done effectively, the employees need to demonstrate that to an employer citing their limitations.
Why they produced and "DELIVERED" crappy product to their client is what baffles me. Where is Quality Control? Whatever is worth doing is worth doing well. A responsible professional should know his/her limits. If they produced crap, identified it as same but the owner decided to deliver it against professional advice, then I can absolve them. But that doesn't seem to be the case here.
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Theyveedo:
Why r these white women so gullible

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Really?

One white woman got duped by a Nigerian.

But one nameless Russian called Mavrodi cleaned up almost the whole of Nigeria.

Gullibility has no limit.
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ferhyntorlah:
I strongly disagree with you. Based on what the poster wrote, the company didn't provide the necessary tools needed to give produce a satisfactory product and it all falls on the MD's head.

The MD is not always on ground - absentee boss.

Also the constant insults from the MD is more than enough to demotivate the employees.

In summary, the MD is the MAIN cause of the problem in my opinion.

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A different angle you got. Quite impressive.

If your MD gets a contract to build a bridge and you have no tools to accomplish it, should you 1) embark on it anyway or 2) request and insist that the right tools be provided?

It boils down to the mindset of the employees which is salaries first. They could have opted for resignation when the MD set them up for failure. The bad product makes the MD, company and the team look bad. Someone who takes pride in his/her profession would not have appended his/her signature to the mediocre product.

They should have shown the bad product to the MD before delivery. And if he insists on delivering it like that then in the present scenario, he can resign honourably. But knowing Nigerians and their penchant for kissing a_ss, they probably told the boss that the final product was good enough in order not to rock the boat.

As an employer of labour in Nigeria, I have intentionally thrown up bad ideas to understand the mindset of my employees. Even in the face of glaring hiccups, they will take on anything to avoid challenging the boss. The worst ones will even throw in "God will guide us" in the mix. Some lady even mentioned one time that she would pray over it. SMH.
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CanadianNurse:
in that case you are wrong... You cannot compare yourself with someone else because there are alot of other factors that contribute to "wealth" and not just location rather you should compare yourself with when u were in Nigeria an when u changed location because every other factors remains constant only your location changes that way you can effectively get the merits and demerits of your migration...... Please analyze properly before talking because whatever you say in a public forum influences alot of lives

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It goes both ways. What some couldn't achieve in Nigeria, they achieved abroad. Conversely, some couldn't cope abroad, returned to Nigeria and the sky couldn't limit them.
Success could come from Nigeria or across the border. It still boils down to one's definition of success.

There are people who are very comfortable financially in Nigeria that migrating to anywhere else is not an option. There are Nigerians who are too broke overseas that returning to Nigeria is not an option. No matter where you live, the rich and the poor will always be among us be it in Canada, US or Nigeria. There are Nigerians in Canada that are broke as a joke. What happened?
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Ebobi:
I am a senior manager in the company I work for at the moment (like second in control).
Recently, we had a client who rejected our products due to obvious production and installation defects, and demanded a refund of his money, which is ok. This problem came up due to several factors ranging from non-provision of necessary work tools, poor work by installers, demotivated teams, among others. And a meeting was called by the MD, who normally is not on ground.
Since the MD rants a lot, we (the managers) expected a sack or even preferred a sack or resign, but he insisted that on no account must anyone of us resign until the client's issue and other lingering issues are closed out, otherwise he would arrest us. During this period, none of us is expecting to receive salaries, the period will likely be up to three months (Jan. to Mar. 2017).
To everyone that can give me some pieces of advice, do you think the MD has the right to insist that none can resign, even apart from the new issue of products rejection, it is always insults and abuses? Also, kindly advise me on what you think I should do now.
Thank you in anticipation of your responses.

Eddy.

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Your company accepted a contract but:
1. The company has no necessary tools to accomplish the task.
2. Lack of motivation among employees.

It sounds very Nigerianish--taking on projects that you have no requisite training to accomplish. The result is:
1. Production defects.
2. Installation defects.

Why do you people live like this? Right from the go, your team knows you people cannot do the job. Yet you went ahead and did a half-baked production. You people intentionally ran his company underground while drawing salaries. You wonder why people employ expatriates because a typical Nigerian employee lacks professional finesse.

I support your MD on this. Sack should not be enough. You people are heartless.
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guiddoti:
Do you have one?

Let me tell you a bit of my idea.

During my masters program in the UK, the least amount I make is 350 per week without overtime. So, you can do the calculation for one month. I pay 270 per month for rent with utility inclusive. As for transportation, I pay 38 per month (bus pass) to anywhere within the city. Mind you, food is very cheap. Even if you are gluttony, you should not spend over 150-200 on food for one month. Remember, this is just least job for non professionals. Now, coming home, which menial job can make you live average life, that is obtainable, as equate to non professional job here? Maybe you have different experience as myself or an idea, am waiting.

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The sad part is that some of you that venture out in search of greener pasture keep comparing your new lifestyles to that of the poor in Nigeria. Let's assume that you really stepped up the game, now look back and figure out who should be comparing yourself with.
I have seen unbelievable poverty in Nigeria and US. Poverty is poverty. There is poverty among professionals and non-professionals alike. If by providence you make it, thank God for providing you with the opportunities. It has nothing to do with your invincibility. There are people who make more money than you but live far worse because they lack understanding of money management. So numbers do not mean much.

I am not trying to knock anyone down but each individual has a different definition of success. $10k a month may be big money for some whereas some folks will file for Chapter 7 on such income. Such is life.

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FrankNetter:
here comes one of pigin2's alternate monikers.

You really must be jobless

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You are like a first time visitor to a big city. You are still enamoured of all the glittering and fancy buildings forgetting that all that glitters is not gold. When you settle in and join the rat race, your opinion in the first-five years will be different.

Btw, I don't need to hide under any phantom moniker to express an opinion in a public forum.
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guiddoti:
Your analogy is right but how we you cut hair 118 times. The money in America is for Americans. But the least jobs in America can make you live average life, not what is obtainable in our hemisphere, bro.

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You have no idea.

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cosade:
You already converted the $2,000 to naira at the parallel market rate, and you probably screamed "almost One Million naira monthly!".

A graduate earning half of that amount in Nigeria would be living better than the person you mentioned.

A simple analogy, with $2,000 monthly you'll be to have haircut 118 times (at $17 per cut) whereas with half of that amount (N500,000), you'll be able to have 2,000 haircuts (at N250 per cut).
Again, remember that the money is earned in US and would be spent in US.

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That exactly was my response to the OP who thinks that he is the shiznit because he is paying mortgage in a $300k house in Canada. Even though I pushed the example to the limit, fact is that anyone with the income to build a nice bungalow in Nigeria is better off. But folks are quick to whip out their calculators as if they are making the money abroad but living in Nigeria.

A very good example you have by the way. Like I say, if US and Canada demand outright purchase of cars, many people will never own a car in their lifetime. Much of the lifestyle things here is financed: Cars, furniture, electronics, etc. you name it. An average American is drowning in debt. Savings is the biggest challenge no matter the income level. The society thrives on consumer spending. On the flip side, the illusion of "doing well" is what is sustaining repo and foreclosure "ministries".
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rottennaija:
Let's say I need 100k to start a business. If I go to the bank, I'll be paying 10k monthly as interest! The capital is still there. The same too with credit facilitators.

No tell me, what sort of business will I be doing in this Nigeria so as I'll be able to pay 10k as interest monthly, then I'll feed myself and my family and alsi will be able to pay the capital?

However, with MMM! Even if I can get someone to get me 20k, in I months time, I'll get 32k or 34k. Then if I invite people to it, I'll also be getting interest from their donations. And I can manage that money, let's say I contribute again for the next 3 months! I may even have close to 300k to start a good business without the headache and high BP of thinking of how to pay interest and capital.

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That is exactly the mindset of the one that PH for N300k in November. He didn't want to pay high interest rate to the banks. In 6 months, he should be able to raise enough cash for business.
But alas! The little he had has disappeared. Fantasy: 30% of N300k. Reality: 30% of zero is zero. Fictitious numbers always look good. Like they say, if it is too good to be true, it probably is.
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CecyAdrian:
While reading through the scripture one day, I came across rules and regulations concerning tithe in Deuteronomy , I was shocked because I never knew that the issue of tithe was talked about anywhere else excerpt in Malachi 3:8. Now, when you take a look at Deuteronomy 14 when God was giving the children of Israelite rules and regulations, God explained the concept or reason for tithe to them and gave them rules to abide in regards to it, from verse 22 downwards explains it so well.

Then you also go to Deuteronomy 26:12 downwards, the same rule was also repeated, and an very sure that the reason why God said that we should bring our tithes and offering in Malachi 3: 10 was for the actualization of his rules and regulation in Deuteronomy, which is feeding the Levites, poor, widows and the needy in the society

So, now I ask, why do pastors prefer Malachi even to the extent of twisting it to favour their aims instead of giving their church members the full concept, rules and regulations regarding tithing which the Lord commanded in Deuteronomy.

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Why make simple things complicated?

Stop paying(funding) anyone's flamboyant lifestyle.

Let him/her report you to God.

Paying tithe is not salvation. I have never paid tithe in my life and I don't intend to because tithes are for the priestly tribes (the Levites). Last time I checked, there are no Levites in Nigeria.

On judgment day, we will find out who makes it to heaven.

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Watching all their pictures, it seems Laura is the one infatuated with Kanu's brother.

Ogbonna is not feeling it.

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Okundaye4:
Lolz.

Na when them never shut down portal be this?

Many mad people go full road when them shut am down o.

Am a participant, but as far as am concern, MMM is buried and my money gone. I just have to be wiser next time by shunning Ponzi schemes.

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The portal will be shut down soon.

They are gradually shutting down operation to minimize the psychological impact on the few who refuse to accept reality. In this case, false hope seems better than no hope. Some people cannot handle the truth.

To all participants: Believe that your money is gone and move on. The more you keep hoping, the more the pain lingers.
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This was educational competition

Perhaps, later during the year, you folks can organize a competition for budding entrepreneurs limited to folks that just finished NYSC within
the last two years.

A cash prize of N1million (N1,000,000) to the winner should not be out of the ordinary.

But the competition has to run longer like the "American Apprentice".

Just a suggestion. More hands and suggestions will be necessary.

cc xFire, Odunharry, dejt4u, Seun.
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XVIER:
The mistake was frozen of account December. The truth is people were still PHing even at December and people still have trust in them. The media were speculating that they will crash December and that was the same December they had to frozen account. If you remember a betting site placed an odd of 1.70 that MMM will crash December. Many people bet on it that it won't crash. The owner of the betting site made a lot of money from it. My money 100k+ is in MMM too. But have moved on since December after I saw my account is frozen. MMM is just trying their luck to revive the system. Yes some will get their money if it's not much. But believe me it's a matter of weeks MMM will fold up, and pls if your money is in the system do not PH, be wise.

MMM has administrators manning their database.

They saw a trend that prompted the freeze.

Folks needed money for Christmas which means GH will surpass PH.

They should be applauded (what else can I say) for freezing sooner to limit the losses.
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kalindaminda:
I'm have money too! Am I a boss? I want to be a boss Look at my own screenshot, totally genuine and real

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I like your angle. It is a warning to those who believe everything they see or hear online.

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danowena:
I don't understand the logic behind it but one thing I know is that MMM is not desperate. If MMM was despirate, they would have matched me long ago. I have PHed 3 Million naira and I am waiting patiently to be matched so I can pay immediately.
I believe if MMM was drowning or sinking as the media seem to portray, they would have used the opportunity of those of us that have PHed in large figures to pay up those that GHed in small figures (but it won't be funny making those bank transactions as the number of people to be paid could be up to 50). I know so many of my colleagues (over 15) that PHed 500K and above but are waiting patiently to be matched.

So please, everyone should calm down.We were meant to use spare money only.
Below is the screen shot.

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Of course, people will continue to PH.
We don't expect MMM to go down without taking some people with it. Nigerians take unnecessary risks and claim surprised at the end.

If in doubt, think about Arik airline. Bad news everyday yet Nigerians continue to patronize them. Like MMM like Arik. It will take a crash to jolt people back to reality.

All the warnings on NL are for the little guys not bosses like you who have a lot to spare.
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Exe0:

A wire transfer for N100k has been sent to your account.

Please confirm on receipt.

Once more, congratulations!

cc xfire, Odunharry, dejt4u

I888:
You are not serious. Didn't read here that she TRIED everything to make it work and the bastard just wouldn't do his part. May your sister stay to resolve theirs until you come and carry their corps,nonsense

As told by her friend abi?

It is easy to whip up sentiments online

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Tkayhandsome:
You understand essay. Get lost before I find you.

Lol.

Small boys!

Lol. SMH

Tkayhandsome:
No. Her ex is not the devil. You are. Hear his own side of the story.

You lack comprehension.

Go back to school.


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lalasticlala:
Beautiful Mum Of 2 Who Walked Out Of An Abusive Marriage Marries A Young Igbo Man


Aishatu Ella John shared on facebook:



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Nora is an angel.

Her ex is a devil.

And her friend said so.

I smell BS
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The wife planned the assassination.

I saw some videos of how they lived like a cat and a dog even to the point of fighting in front of their children.

The wife seized their house in US and kicked him out.

He went and built the one in Nigeria. She decided to assassinate him.

Stop going to Nigeria to marry, folks will not listen.
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9jakohai:
Let me introduce you to a certain international convention....

Diplomatic immunity.....



Until the Polish Embassy says that they have waived their immunity....they cannot be prosecuted...

Happens all over the world....even in the US.

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You already believed without an iota of evidence that they are diplomats because they said so.

SMH.
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Priska02:
I appreciate the organizer xfire for this applaudable initiative.
Odunharry and dejt4u really tried.
Thanks to all my fans for wishing me well (like play like play, I don dey gather fans).
Samwise I hail you.
Congrats to the main winners: exe0,Redder97 and Adeolakk.
my team 10k member: teemanbastos .. Congrats

Samwise99 thank you.., you are recognised

Like play like play, mr exe0 won over 150+k .

InvertedHammer thanks for sponsoring...,

p.s: it would not be a bad idea at all if you could invert your decision and make the 100k go round..

I'm sure even exe0 would agree to this#winks

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Too late.

The pledge was made before the contest.
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Exeo:

I sent a pm to your gmail address (e.......7@gmail.com)

It is the best way to reach me. I don't use the nairaland email system for obvious reasons bordering on scammers and their antics.

cc. Xfire, Dejt4u, Odunharry.

Lanre90:
Each Guider is equipped with enough money to pay downlines and boast confidence in Mavrodians to continue providing help

So please Mr Jon Snow .. Mind your business.. You know nothing about MMM

Maddoff bilked Americans for $50b (yes billions). Investors were getting monthly account statements about how much their money had accrued over months/years as the case may be. The real test came when people wanted to withdraw their money. There was no money!

Allen Stanford (a Florida billionaire) pulled the same scheme as well and was convicted in 2012. He is currently serving 110 years in jail.

MMM promoters are playing off Ponzi's script. Keep checking your account balances. You will definitely see numbers. Let us know when you are able to cash out. People are not putting in more money that is why matching and payment are being delayed, postponed or cancelled.

But then, it is a free world. Dreams and fantasies are illogical but not illegal.
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ojdollars:
His Wife should as a matter of urgency be questioned if she is Nigerian. He may probably be divorced from her or they still married and she killed her for the life insurance policy. Because killing him in Nigeria would shift the suspicion, contact the U.S embassy, find a way to trace everyone who called him and text him before.

Women do a lot of bad stuff for money and a new man in the U.S. I am in the same community as him so I know a lot

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Very likely.

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Launcher:
RIP to him, just wasted a hero.
But that's a cop's badge on him & not a dog tag, how is he in the army with a badge? It has no meaning though......he's human even if he is just a carpenter

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A lot of cops are retired military veterans. Some of them do private security guards as well.

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Felixalex:
MMM NON-PARTICIPANTS SAY "NIGERIANS ARE THE GREEDIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH THEY HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED ETC...

BUT WITH THESE SERIES OF LONG " ANALYSIS" AND TALKS AGAINST MMM ESPECIALLY ON NAIRALAND... I THINK NIGERIANS ARE ALSO VERY WICKED AND HEARTLESS.... I KNOW MANY YOUNG GRADUATES WHO HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR JOBS, NO JOB, A FRIEND GOT A JOB LAST YEAR AND HE CATEGORICALLY TOLD ME HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THAT JOB IF NOT FOR MMM, BECAUSE HE STAYS IN ABUJA AND GOT A CALL FOR AN INTERVIEW THE NEXT DAY IN LAGOS AND HE IMMEDIATELY TOOK OFF SIMPLY BECAUSE HE HAD SOME CHANGE (THANKS TO MMM), NOBODY WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THAT MONEY ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE!

THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY IN NIGERIA, PEOPLE ARE STARVING, PRICES KEEP SHOOTING UP ON DAILY BASIS, NOW IF SOMEONE HAS LITTLE MONEY (SPARE MONEY AS THEY CALL IT) TO RISK TO AT LEAST GET SOME MONEY TO CATER FOR SOME NECESSITIES AT HOME, WHY SHOULD THAT CAUSE YOU WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE SCHEME SLEEPLESS NIGHTS

NIGERIAN ECONOMY IS ALREADY CAUSING MORE TRAUMA
THAN MMM CRASHING WILL...


KNOWING THAT PANIC IS A GREAT TOOL AGAINST THE SURVIVAL OF MMM AND USING IT IS WICKEDNESS AND IF MMM CRASHES SEUN U AND UR MODS, THE PEOPLE U TIRN TO ARMED ROBBERS WILL COME FOR U

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Your story is like that of a pillar of his community. He builds houses for widows and gives scholarships to indigent students. But wait. He is a drug baron and lives in Indonesia.
When he gets caught and primed for execution, your only cry is that without him, his poor community will be hopeless.

MMM might have helped some people just like every ponzi scheme, but the risk involved in such scheme is what is currently manifesting and every participant is a living witness. The odd is stacked against participants at this point. The sad part is that MMM vividly warned everyone to use only "money they can AFFORD to LOSE". How much clearer can it get?

This MMM issue will make a good case study for researchers in human psychology -- How Greed kills Rational Minds. It is the same pitfall for victims of 419, love scam, money-doublers, wash wash,etc. 419 victims continue paying with the hope of turning their fantasy to reality. Like 419, like MMM. Willing participants make organizers' payday. Sometimes it only takes some kind of intervention to shock victims back to reality. Nairaland is the avenue for the intervention. Pull a stop loss while you can.
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