petra1: It depends . A senior Pastor can reprimand a junior Pastor openly . Everything depends on the gravity of the offense . It could be privately , or could be among Pastors and it can be before congregation
Sometimes private matters are dealt with privately and public matters are dealt with publicly
We should do all rebuke in love, and elders should not provoke young men to anger.
The Bible says that, too, you know. The Bible also said since the same fountain cannot produce both sweet water and bitter, the same mouth should not bless and curse.
James 3:9-11 9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
Yet these men regularly place curses on people, and we rejoice that they are doing so. I'm sure you are aware that some of these pastors have cursed even some pastors serving under them among other people they have cursed?
Let us strive to be more and more like Christ Jesus who never cursed anyone nor reviled anyone.
Good job those guys did, by the way, calling Freeze a bastard.
petra1: The scriptures I quoted explains my stand with Gods word . There is no place in the Bible either old and New Testament which support Christians insulting their pastors .
Jude 1:8 (KJV) 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Oh, pastors will give account of their stewardship, if I were one (I have refused to become one on a few occasions because I know I haven't been called, at least, yet), I will prefer to listen to criticisms of men here on this side of eternity and adjust myself than get before God when it is too late!
Those guys who will shout before Christ about how they cast out demons and healed the sick in His name yet He tells them to depart from Him, who do you think they might mostly be? Members of congregation, or pastors?
May God help our men of God, o......it's not easy, especially when men and women begin bowing and kneeling before them, calling them"Daddy" (father) when none other than Jesus Himself said "call no one father"
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
petra1: We all have equal salvation . But there are lines of authority in Gods kingdom . Some of you new breeds don’t study the Bible but you follow social media culture
Hebrews 13:17 (NLT) 17 Obey your spiritual leaders, and do what they say. Their work is to watch over your souls, and they are accountable to God. Give them reason to do this with joy and not with sorrow. That would certainly not be for your benefit.
1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV) 28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
You are quick to assume I'm a "new breed".
I was born again 31 years ago.
Now, back to the issue.
A spiritual leader is not to be envied, because it's a very tough position in which to find oneself. Leaders should be sober, grave people who weigh every word before they say it because their followers will hold on to them.
Personally, I try to live "by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord" and I can easily find those by myself in the Bible. Like the Bereans, I weigh what these men say, and, I must admit, on many occasions, I find they stretch the Word a bit.
The key word is "let brotherly love continue". What we have now are men claiming to be "fathers" to other children of God, and claiming infallibility under the "touch not my anointed' thing.
Well, we are all anointed, all of us are "touch not", I stand by those words.
Some are Apostles, some Prophets, some are teachers , etc, but God appoints all and anoints all to function in His house. A young man can be sitting in some congregation while on holidays and yet be the president of a fellowship on campus that is even larger than his home Church. Does he not need to be anointed for the task?
For the purpose of function, yeah, some lead, but by structure, the Church is made of brethren, not "Daddies" and "children".
Don't think of it as an office with a boss and subordinates, where the boss takes credit or criticism for the success and failure of all. Rather think of it in the image of a football team, where there's a captain and assistant, but all play their part and are true friends, jubilating together when they succeed and learning together when they fail.
Most times it aggravates when you bend down, or when you're reading. Actually when your brain is intercepting contradicting signals from the eye and the ear it causes you migraines.
I used to have it but when I learnt of the cause I start to avoid it
To minimize it, stay close to the window and your heads up.
dingbang: The reason why tracker chips need to worn to avoid situations like this. This can be embedded in form of waistbeads/earrings for females, pendants for males.
donvoice: The president of the first gospel drama ministry in Africa, Mike Bamiloye has also taken the turn after Pastor David Ibiyiome and Apostle Paul Eneche to shot back at Daddy Freeze in a very uncommon way by using Bible verse to buttress his point.
The controversial part is that, his scriptural backing cannot be pointed either as to other Minister's of the gospel of Daddy Freeze.
petra1: It is unscriptural to insult or rebuke ministers of God . A new generation seem to be ingnorant of principles of the scripture and the consequences of violating them which carry curses
Psalms 105:15 Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Sometimes in this forum I Have heard some ignorant people say that the verse above is for all Isreal and not men of God . If you think so You must have gotten your Theology upside down. Firstly is the whole of Isreal anointed . Is the whole of Isreal prophets ? That verse was making Reference to Patriacts and prophets Abraham and Isaac Before whom God rebuked Kings for touching their wives .
Psalms 105:14-15 14 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; 15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Genesis 26:11 11 And (KING)Abimelech charged all his people, saying, He that toucheth this man or his wife shall surely be put to death.
That explanation should be enough for he wise.
God anointed 3 offices in the Bible days . The king ,The priest and The prophet. God gave instructions to have respect for such. And by That we have no right to insult such men
Exodus 22:28 28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
Remember that this rulers were ministers anointed by God “priest and prophets
The same way today God has annointed ministers over Gods people .
What if a minister do wrong ? That still doesn’t give us the right to curse or insult them . A minister can only be rebuke by God or someone higher than him but not a surbodinate . I will give you 3 instances In scripture .
MOSES He was the man by who the law came , yet he was the first to brake the law of intermarriage . He married an Ethiopian woman when the wife left him. Aaron and Miriam who were surbodiates Spoke against Moses for his wrong .
Numbers 12:1 1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
God judged them instantly read the rest of the story . Miriam became leprous on this account .
Same things goes for the sons of Korah and elders who stood against Moses for having too much authority claiming that “they are all anointed “
Numbers 16:3 3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
DAVID AND SAUL
It was evident that Saul was a backsliden King. Even though David had been chose to take over he would not violate scripture principle despite the Fact that Saul wanted to kill him . He had had numerous opportunities to kill Saul but wouldn’t do it because of the anointing upon Saul as head . Especially when his servant Abishai asked David permission to kill Saul
1 Samuel 26:9 9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD's anointed, and be guiltless?
PAUL Paul once had an incident where the Highpriest ordered him to be slapped . He insulted the highpriest without knowing he was high priest . But when his attention was brought to it , he apologized .
Acts 23:2-5 2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. 3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? 4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? 5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
These days we have people especially on this Forum insulting ministers . It is error which carry curses . If a minister did wrong against the law let the law handle the matter , if it’s against God , let God handle the matter . But stop putting your mouth especially in things that’ you may even be wrong about in your own limited understanding
Uncle,
In your bid to glorify these men, you seem eager to place yourself below them.
I urge you to accept the fact that they are not more blessed than you or me, neither does God love them more than He loves us.
We are all equal before God, and each one of us, if willing, God has an anointing for us to be vessels unto honour in His house.
Even an Usher needs God's anointing to function. I have personally seen an Usher pray and a blind man's eyes opened during Reinhard Bonkke's crusade.
Never forget that, and it shall be well with you.......or are you not God's anointed too?
Me I am also anointed o, I am among those God says to "touch not".
olasaad: Pls don't bring Kwara into this because na themselves they packed their bag and baggage and lived Kwara to align with Kogi. But because their suffering now increase in kogi more than Kwara they now want to leave the place again.
So now where will our brothers go now Me I think Ekiti
The Saints and the Wise Understand that all these Happenings are the Endtimes Prophecies and Signs Given by our Lord and Savior JESUS Christ. They are busy, Ensuring Purity, Holiness and Righteousness on all Sides.
The Saints and the Wise are Preparing themselves For the BLAST of The LAST Trump aka The RAPTURE! The Greatest Event that is Set to Hit the Earth
Oxygen travelled through space?
How many kilometres?
"The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come." (Joel 2:31).
fact45: WHEN MKBHD, JERRYRIGEVERYTHING,MR MOBILE, AND MRWHOISTHEBOSS REVIEW IT, THEN I WILL START TAKING INFINIX PRODUCT SERIOUS
Calm down, it's a paid review of a budget phone. If this gets into the US market at all, it's gonna be what lower income parents get for their highschool kids.
All said, these guys probably won't do a review. Lew probably wouldn't have, either, if Infinix hadn't reached out to him.
NuclearReactor: he is too big of a YouTuber to be paid to twist his opinion
These people don't know Lew.....the guy na real crase man o!
Did you see the video where he ROASTED Apple for releasing a cable that couldn't charge his iPhone? Complete roasting without saying a word! In the end he just threw the cable away!
He does paid reviews and he doesn't hide it. He also doesn't hide it when he's excited about something with signature exclamations and shouting on camera.
This is simply an introduction of a "budget phone" to a fan base used to $1000 flagships.
He even mentioned that the Zero 8 doesn't have a Snapdragon. He would leave that out if he wasn't gonna be sincere.
However, Lew unboxes and reviews based on performance of high end phones, comparison of mid-range ones and the features of what they in the West call budget phones.
You will see the trend if you're a fan of Unbox Therapy and have been for the last few years.
Yes, he does paid reviews, but he will always say the company sent the device to him and that doesn't always guarantee he won't say his mind about it.
Dapromzy333: The Argentine maestro’s commitment at Camp Nou is reportedly in doubt after the Catalan giants’ woeful European exit
Former Barcelona and Cameroon striker Samuel Eto’o has joked that the Catalans will have to change their name should Lionel Messi depart the club.
The 33-year-old La Masia graduate, who is the most prolific player in the Blaugrana’s history, played for a full 90 minutes as they lost 8-2 to Bayern Munich in the quarter-finals of the Champions League last Friday.
It was Barca’s biggest European defeat in history and their heaviest loss since 1946. It was also the first time since the 2005-06 season that neither Messi nor Juventus star Cristiano Ronaldo made it to the semi-finals.
This has fuelled speculation on Messi’s future at the club, with a year left to run on his contract, and he has been linked with a possible move to Manchester City to be with his former coach in Pep Guardiola or his Argentine hometown club Newell’s Old Boys, where he featured as a youth player.
“I love Messi like he was my own son, I want the best for him. Barcelona is Messi and I think if Messi decides to leave, we’ll have to change the name of the club,” Eto’o told Argentine TV channel TyCSports.
“We are lucky in that at Barcelona, we have the best player in the world and of all-time, we have to do everything possible to ensure he finishes his career at Barcelona.”
fergie001: The Portuguese Pauleta was superb and the club's record goalscorer until his record ended recently.
Heinze, left PSG for United and later RM after his bust with SAF..He wanted Liverpool and Sir insisted (to a rival? Never)...a fantastic LB.... Still hard to forgive his tumble with Evra, that gifted Kaka one of the sweetest goals in UCL history, a trip for Milan to Athens in the UCL finals (2007) which they eventually won (courtesy Inzaghi) and then his lone FIFA best player award.
Bernard Mendy was flamboyant at the RB...remembered his time on loan @ Bolton with JJ. You can't miss him at that flank.
Édouard Cisse, a very dependable CM (these days, traditionally known as a DM)....originally from Senegal, very good. I remembered his tears alongside Rothen, on that fateful night at Schalke 04 in 2004 when they lost the UCL final to Jose Mourinho's Porto.
Ronaldinho (the most skilful footballer ever) needs no introduction.
Nice one....JJ...Baba Skills.
Yepes.....The real "Super Mario"
Men don play ball abeg
They are many nowwww..... just that the South Americans have done so well for themselves at Barca from Romario's time.
Mention the club, nobody will beat you ... Its a London club okwaya?
Please don't mind the boy! Pelé Maradona
They are not great because they didn't play for Barca.