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nollywood will get to bollywood in maybe 3009.

google it. it must be hard work. feel like wishing this on funmi

wish her luck 'cos she will neeed it

what do we do to the OBJ and richard for taking advantage of us like this?

you know you got some good head.brains resting on that shoulders. good morning ma'am

Eteri:
@djcrucifix i really love ur speech but the is still a very big BUT there,
u are saying this because u've not heard some horrible past if u do I'm not sure u will still hold on because 4 me the word LOVE does not exist esecially with Nigerian Men

i said this yesterday in another thread. it is not only the men. love as a concept is alien to the Nigerian mind.

ifyalways:
Men hate it when women change after marriage.change Physically,emotionally and sexually 
Keep up the appearance,take care of the nails and hair like during courtship,add some spice and advaneture to the bedroom affair,wear those sexy pants and skirts that he loves.etc

sad fact is so many don't know what they really want.  if doing what you said really makes a man happy  you wonder why some have so many affairs and relationships breakdown.

Why Branson cannot rescue Virgin Nigeria’
By OYETUNJI ABIOYE
Published: Wednesday, 14 Jan 2009

The recent decision by Virgin Nigeria Airways to suspend its long haul flights has again thrown up the controversy over the real owners of the country’s flag carrier, its true financial position and the conflict of interests among its original owners.
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The chairman of Virgin Group, Sir Richard Branson

The airline was established in 2004 from the ashes of the liquidated Nigeria Airways, with the Chairman of the Virgin Group, Sir Richard Branson, and Nigerian institutional investors controlling 49 and 51 per cent shares respectively.

Industry observers and stakeholders were shocked by Virgin Nigeria’s announcement of the suspension of its long haul flights last Friday giving only three weeks notice to passengers.

The carrier said, effective January 27, 2009, flights to Johannesburg, South Africa, and Gatwick, London would be suspended, citing product review as reason.

Industry watchers wondered why Virgin, supposedly set up to fill the vacuum created by the liquidation of Nigeria Airways, made such announcement.

Experts are saying that again it is bringing to the fore the question of whether the flat carrier was properly done or not, whether Branson is still committed to it, and who are the Nigerian institution investors.

The former Minister of Aviation, Mr. Felix Hyat, had a few months ago declared that the process was not transparent, saying “due process was not followed.”

Virgin, however, insisted that it was not true, saying South African Airways and some other companies participated in the bid.

But a source at the South African Airways who pleaded anonymity told our correspondent that though it participated in the bid and won it, it was never given.

He said that SAA went through all processes involving the Bureau of Public Enterprise, but at the last minute when the former President Olusegun Obasanjo was to append his approval, “Virgin was brought in from nowhere to take over everything.”

According to him, the carrier was to be named Nigerian Eagle until Branson came in, adding that the template was designed by SAA, with the international call sign that was adopted by Branson.

The Chief Executive Officer, Belujane Konzult, an aviation consulting firm, Mr. Chris Aligbe, said that Virgin Nigeria was not originally set up to be the country’s flag carrier, adding that “the impression that a flag carrier was being set up was a facade”.

He said that Nigeria Airways, which had one-tenth liabilities of its asset was wrongly liquidated and that put the government under pressure to bring in Branson.

Branson he said, came in with the plan to create a strong domestic and regional carrier and not an intercontinental flag carrier for the country.

He said, “Virgin Nigeria is not a true Nigerian flag carrier. It was not programmed to make long haul operations. They did not plan it that way. No flag carrier will go to Gatwick instead of Heathrow. The number one hub in Europe is Heathrow. The main purpose of Branson’s investment is to get what the Virgin Group could not get – the Cabotage right. It was created to feed Virgin Atlantic. We saw it ab-initio. We shouted but no one listened.”

A source at Virgin Nigeria who did not want his name mentioned said the airline was returning its two long haul aircraft to firms that leased them.

Virgin had been using two Boeing 767-300 to service Johannesburg and Gatwick.

The Belujane boss argued that Branson had the clout in the global sector to get better competitive aircraft for Virgin Nigeria if he wanted it.

This, he said, could only be done if he wanted the airline to be an effective long haul carrier.

He said, “Why is Branson called a core investor? It is because as a technical partner, he has the capability to make the difference. Virgin Group is gradually pulling out of Virgin Nigeria.”

The Virgin Atlantic Airways spokesperson in Nigeria, Mrs. Kudirat Isiaka, in a statement confirmed this, saying, “Virgin Atlantic remains a minority shareholder in Virgin Nigeria and fully supports its decision to focus on its profitable domestic and regional routes, throughout West Africa.

“The future strategy of Virgin Nigeria has always been a matter for the Virgin Nigeria board, which includes UBA.

She also said, “Virgin Atlantic is 100 per cent committed to Nigeria and continues to be a major operator on the Lagos to London Heathrow route. We are proud to carry many Nigerian passengers between the two cities every week.”

Stakeholders, including Aligbe said that VAA was stating the obvious-Branson has divested.

Investigation by our correspondent revealed that Branson had only seven per cent shares left in Virgin Nigeria.

A source in one of the aviation agencies said that the recent restructuring in which about 200 workers were laid off from Virgin was at the instance of UBA.

Some stakeholders have said that the “product review” which is the reason stated by Virgin for the suspension of its long haul flights might be true since it is currently being managed.

A source said that UBA’s current role in Virgin was a sure indication that Branson had divested from the carrier.

Aligbe expressed support for the current role UBA was playing to reposition Virgin Nigeria, noting that if it was not done, the airline would have been “one of the airlines that will collapse in 2009.”

He also said that it was a good development that UBA had acquired effective control the Virgin brand was costing Virgin Nigeria $250,000 monthly excluding management charges, adding that the carrier could hardly survive under such atmosphere.

He said, “Virgin Nigeria has been making zero profit since the beginning of its operations.”

Aligbe said that it would be sad for the sector if the airline should go under, urging government to take immediate action to save the carrier.

This, according to him, was important otherwise aviation would be a drag and indeed, a major set back in the nation’s quest to attaining vision 2020.

More importantly, he said such news would send a bad signal to the international community about aviation business in the country.

In doing this, Aligbe recommended that the government could consult International Finance Corporation to carry out a due diligence on the airline, by conducting an investment audit into it with a view to determining the level of investment and the actual investors and the quantum of investments.

After this, he advised, government should pay off all the investors, acquire it, and invite a technical partner to rebuild or set up the airline. He said that country could use the Kenya Airways model to reposition it.

This view was supported by the Managing Director, Sabre network, Mr. Gabriel Olowo. He said it was necessary to move the carrier ahead.

The President, National Cabin Crew Association of Nigeria, Mr. Olumide Ohunayo, corroborated the view that Virgin Nigeria could only be a low cost regional carrier, and not international, given Branson‘s pedigree of offshore airline investment in low cost regional carriers.

The General Secretary, Aviation Round Table, Mr. Sam Akerele, said that the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority might need to audit the airline.

On what impact it could create should if the airline should go under, Aligbe, Akerele and others said that it would make travelling difficult on domestic and regional routes because it could take time for the existing carriers to fill the gap.

On the international route, they said it would not, as Virgin had no strong footing there. http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200901141525093

wbb

Naijex:
Abeg, we deserve better technology than this kind one. At least them go create jobs. Ope ooo

for where?

initiate:
this whole issue is as a result of culture shock. there is a great problem of disorientation due to the difficulty of marrying our traditional culture with the oyinbos. an african man is naturally polygamist and he is programmed to have many wives. unfortunately we have adopted the western culture which does not permit this. therefore the only compromise available is to have girlfriends. the man should not be looked at as promiscuous, he is just being true to type. and all of you who are quick to criticize the girl, have you tried to put yourselves in her shoes? please tell us you story about what you did in similar situation

my advise to her is to move out of town and bring up her child alone. one day the man will thank her for bringing up the child, hopefully it will be a male child.
in the meantime she could still find a man to marry her if she has a good personalty.

all the best

you are excusing the inexcusable. who programmed africans to have many wives they cant take care of

the concept or idea love is allien to most of us. we dont understand its meaning and purpose so abuse it and tear other peeps heart

*osisi*:
maybe the poster don give the girl belle sef and we're here arguing
where is he?
he made a single post and returned to incubate the chic in question

chei

mida:
Wow,you are blowing my mind.you seem to know more about
this thing than i thought, i am sorry for the breakup, but i guess
you must have done somethings that you felt should not be stated here.
The guy in question sounds like an hustler to me, is he, i mean is he someone
who has som many odds to get over to make a life?

TOPUP IS MAMA ARUGBO

you must have done somethings that you felt should not be stated here

why would this be so?

alfchye:
Busy body.You are real pupsy and very crazy.Did God come down from Heaven to say the two women are good for him and did the bible tell us to marry more than 1 wife.I think you are just being foolish totall absurd.Get Lost.

chill man. you dont reduce yourself to cursing a lady. manners and you are only 24.

~Lady~:
Tope having sex with someone outside of marriage even though you love them purely is wrong. That person is not your spouse and you should only be having sex with your spouse. But we all know we are weak, and some of us fall into the sin of fornication, we can redeem ourselves, but we should not think that it is ok to sleep with someone outside of marriage even though we purely love them.

In my life, I have purely loved two men and almost married one, today we are not together, so it would be wrong for me to sleep with them or to have slept with them.

thanks and God bless you

busybein:
ahhh mba,no no no tope,u r very wrong in this case,very very wrong

fornication is fornication,no white fornication no black fornication,that same God is against fornication,so what r u talking about?

true. now where is your bible?

Cayon:
Funny but you are absolutely right. I am still searching for that answer
funny

@poster

a tricky and interesting question. I don’t remember seeing an exact verse about marrying a non-virgin or virgin. The only virgins that I know in the bible are Adam and Eve (God created them first). If you read the bible men were marrying widows like crazy and it was ok with God. Yet on the other hand, the bible talks about fornication - which is sex before marriage.

This is how I see it and I stand to be corrected. In Gods eyes, its wrong to marry a non-virgin who is not a christian. But if the non-virgin is a born-again Christian then its fine. Marrying a virgin is a personal choice for men and women (makes you feel special) Just my 75¢.

should be more expensive than that.

Funny but you are absolutely right

i dont think so. the problem is there are more visible minority flaunty thier sexuality as if the whole world is doing it

Nigerians deserve bad leadership. these people are selected from amongst Nigerians.

the cost of the silly winners or thieves takes it all presidential system we are running is not worth it. too much government without governing

naija people and lawlessness. what is wrong in having rules? are they dragging kids off the streets to go there?

good for you

you only need your name, bank account no and sort code to do any remitance. uba is ok.

funmi's mind

not even in dreams

crayon

wbb

forget what you see in films. she is a very reasonable human being who has not let the fame thing get into her head

lisaM31:
@bronx dog

I don't think you fully understand what being in a long term relationship truly means, so I'll forgive you for your harsh response. I was nothing short of great to this man, but sometimes that's not enough and sometimes it's too much. There are faults in every relationship, but we've worked it out for so long (6 years), so why run away now? He's all I've known. I think you would be more sensitive if you've been in my position, but good luck to you I hope you never have to feel this kind of pain (It feels like somebody died, but they didn't, they just up and left).

life is a journey sister. most people are only in yourlife for a season. okay he just moved on you didnt see it coming. when you look back at this day a year from now, you may be the only one smilling. you got to let him go an d move on with your life. i know the pains especially when you have invested a lot into it. move on and if you are a praying person ask Jesus the healer of the wounded heart to heal you.

@ bronx please chill na. where is your compassion? na your brother cause this wahala here.

Ujujoan:
ROTFLMAO!!

I’m sorry . . LOL . . I’m sorry. I’m not supposed to be making fun of this but you sound soooo funny. Kindda like how I sounded early last year when a similar thing happened to me. And you know what, looking back now, I can’t help but laugh!! I laugh at myself and the way I fooled myself. I neglected my job and made myself a pest around my friends and family. Now it’s all soooo. Funny!! And kind of embarrassing.

So my advise to you girl, don’t give yourself unnecessary headache. Trust me, you’ll get over him. A part of you will always love him, but not as much as you’ll hate him for what he did to you. So take my advice and let it go.

Trust in yourself; create a kind of you that you’ll be happy to live with and say ‘go to hell’ to any SOB who thinks he’s too good for you.

He’s just not worth it . . Nobody is.

reality speaks

amebo no.1:
yes sir

i guess u also know talk is cheap

we are all responsibible for whatever we believe. i am not trying to impress anyone. i am personally apaulled there are men who feel no shame living off  women. not even in the days nigeria was coming out of colonisation with its attendant poverty did  we have men that low.  i personally don't know any one living off women  maybe that is why it is strange  to my hears.