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So Amotekun is a threat to Nigeria's democracy (or you mean Fulani Hegemony) but Miyetti Allah is not? You see this is clearly why we need either to restructure Nigeria or Split it.

It is as clear as daylight that we all do not have the same vision nor focus for this.

The SE and SS should do same, set-up security outfits in their regions and stand by it. This will be the first step in the right direction.

I like this comment. Even though u have issues with the man, atleast you still in some ways agree with the meat of the matter.

Trump2020:
Stupid chest beating from a spineless Yoruba Moslem

Anyway, we stand with Amotekun

He has always been in it for himself. He has sold his soul, I mean a long time ago, and he does not mind selling the soul of anyone else.
A very very evil man indeed.

kponkedenge:
Are Yoruba's suddenly angry about this type of statement from Miyetti Allah? I mean they caused all this by joining forces with the Fulani's to the detriment of the whole South in 2015.
Also for those of you think these people are not speaking the mind of the Buhari's administration, then you are probably sleeping.

One more thing: Tinubu has refused to comment on the issue because he is in a tight spot... If he supports it, he fears the backlash from the North and he can as well kiss his presidential bid goodbye......while if he doesn't support it, he risks the wrath of the entire South West, so he just wants to stay on the fence and let it play out itself.

To know a good leader is in tough times like this.... Tinubu has shown he isn't..... He is just all in it for himself.

If I may ask Junaid Muhammed, "what the f**k is the interest of Nigeria?" I have often heard this phrase bandied around as if it is something sacrosanct. The interest of Nigeria that this man refers to is the interest of the holders of power, the Hausa-Fulani and their British overlords. It has nothing to do with the interest of each tribe that makes up the geographical entity called Nigeria which is a mirage, a charade, a circus.

You have made your point. Now can we forge ahead in a bid to get us all what we want. Casting stones and pointing accusing fingers has never gotten anyone anywhere.

People like you are the first to say Yorubas are traitors, Yorubas are Afonja. Now same Yorubas have simply made their move, the right move.

I assume you are from the South East, my advice is that if you really want what's right for your people, push for your governors to do same. Let every region have it's own sovereignty and let's see if it will not get you what you want.

Marine54:
THE FEDERAL IS ALLIANCE B/W NORTH AND SOUTHWEST.... SE AND SS has no business supporting The so called amotekun, because the southwest brought this mess upon themself. I could remember vividly, in 2015 how the shouting, sai baba to spite the igbos and the southsouth. And 2019 4+4... Now why trying to shield themself from the evil they deliberately brought upon us...

I think they would be better off on their own. Everyone who knows a thing or two about the UK (especially the English part) know that they are deep down a racist bunch and they never accepted Markle and they never will.
Also, Harry knows who killed his mother and unlike his brother William, who is more concerned about being the good boy of the family in the hope that one day he achieves king status, Harry is more approachable and relatable like his late mother was.
Just to show you how twisted the English public are, some have been barking about how expensive it is to maintain the monarchy, as soon as Harry and Meghan announce they'd like to leave, they pounce upon her as the source of this. Pick a side and stick to it.

I am certain they have smart advisers and they will make whatever lost revenues from other avenues. By choosing to walk away from this, they'll do just fine and still continue to make headlines in whatever the choose to do.

The islamic cleric should enjoy the same sharia law that they (Buhari and every islamic fanatic (emphasis on this)) are trying to create in Nigeria or atleast in some Nigerian states.

You reap what you sow.

More like we can't replace a man whose WAEC is questionable with a man whose Masters is questionable.

Davash222:
Not only Oshiomhole, The South will not and never support Tinubu in 2023!!
We can’t replace a thief with a thief.

I believe the original poster of that comment was referring to the average fulani being educated vs the average southerner being educated. He was not comparing a handful to a handful. Every tribe has its elite who are often well educated.

I think the jury is out on this and we need not argue.

Ustec:
Nice one from afenifere,
But stop believing aboki's are illiterates, those educated guys up north are so sound that you will end up doffing your cap when you gets to know them.

The people of Ondo will support whichever Governor that will guarantee the security of their farmlands and lives.
If you think they are in love with APC, then you do not understand what is really going on.

PicLtd:
Akeredolu might be dealt a heavy blow in the APC primary. The cabal may be cooking something for him. He should tread softly.

And you are a fool for making such silly statements.

mjbaba:
If the Ondo people know what is good for them, they shouldn't touch those cows.

Just allow the Fulani people come and claim them and leave peacefully.

Those guys are very unforgiving and ruthless if anything happens to their cattle.

I see where you are coming from my bro and I agree that my argument is not bulletproof.

Thanks for pointing this out to me, I appreciate.

Dybala11:
Oga, your argument is not from objective reasoning. Do you think things will be this calm if the US military crashed an airplane containing it's citizens by mistake, think of the consequences and fallouts of such an act on the US government and the US military at large, if such an act was proved to have been there doing?

I agree with all you have said my bro up until where you categorise good Iranians as those who are against the regime and terrorist Iranians as those who are for the regime.

drakeli:
For you to think all Iranians sleep and face one direction is unbelievable. Not all Iranians love their government. The protest has continued today again. The level of crowd I see following this protest is beyond western sponsored crowd. These are good Iranian people unlike the terrorist ones. I saw people destroying Suleiman’s billboard portrait on the street. But the fake news media made us to believe everyone loved Suleiman.
I saw a woman protester reportedly shot in the leg by Iranian police. This looks like Arab spring revolution. You need to see the level of the protest to realize that it’s not just a couple of hundreds people. The crowd is massive. Good Iranians are asking questions unlike sheepish Nigerians being servile to politicians.

My broda, pastor private part only doing what it knows how to do best jare. Leave matter for mattias. All man na flesh and blood, e no easy jare.

hooha:
When the private part of a pastor is not taught on how to be a "pastor", it can mess up the pastor....

Be more careful when handling critical positions ..

to say that their enemy is not USA clearly shows you this group of individuals are most likely sponsored by western forces.

what happened was inexcusable regarding the shooting down of the plane and I feel that the only way forward is to offer full and commensurate compensation for the families of the individuals involved. may God almighty rest their souls. a similar incident happened in 1988 when USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 and till date the US Government has never accepted responsibility, although the settled the relatives involved to the tune of over $100m.

but to say USA is not an enemy of Iran or the Iranian people shows how daft whoever made such a statement is. the USA and its allies have continually imposed sanctions on the Islamic republic of Iran since 1979, for what you may ask, for the fact that they seized the initiative to direct the affairs of their country as they deemed fit.

these sanctions have actually affected the poorest and middle class citizens of this country more than they have affected the elite class and I do not know whatelse Iran has done other than maintain their right to be a sovereign nation. agreed they have sponsored proxy groups that fight for iranian interests the world over but is that not what other countries do all in the name of maintaining a stranglehold on the world. all is fair in love and war. one side does not have a right to accuse the other of wrong doing especially when the accuser is as bad as the accused.

and the plane would never have been shot down in the first place if Trump had not killed the General and escalated tensions in that region.

Intelligently written.

Well done.

grandiose4ever:
I had a thought recently about the Nigerian religious space and economy and I feel sad that Nigeria is not exploiting the benefits of christianedom enough.

One can choose to look Churches from two angles as a govt. A charity or special subset of the service sector - in most cases it should be viewed as Charity. In some other cases it can help if viewed as a service. As a charity it should be tax free, as a service it should pay taxes(5% - 10%) and improve economy.

Since Churches seem to have very strong liquidity and cash flow from foreign countries - they can be encouraged to venture into other areas of the economy.

Case study: when govt liberated higher education and allowed new entrants. Winners Chapel obtained a license in 2002 for Covenant and within 20 years overtook Nigeria's first University of Ibadan founded in 1945.

I have a feeling if they ventured into healthcare and other sectors they would equally succeed.

So by your logic, we should simply leave government to do what they do best while we do what they were elected and get paid to do?

kunlesufyan:
This is what Nigeria needs. If we wait for government, we go old.

I love this question.

The simple answer is No.

The complex answer is...No.

Now go get your inverter and solar panels and live your life abeg

If you think their missiles are lame, then you are merely a jester. Iran have highly capable missiles that can hit US bases all around the middle east. Yesterday's event was a drill, they missed on purpose and I can imagine those US soldiers shitting their pants. Mind you the missiles were not intercepted, that tells you they knew what they were doing.

Agreed the US would overrun Iran in a conventional head to head warfare. The US has the upper hand primarily because of the weapons they have at their disposal, similar weapons they prevented Iran from procuring from the likes of Russia and China over the years.

But just like the US had the upper hand against Vietnam and North Korea, I remind you that War is ALL about the cost you are prepared to pay to win.

Word of caution again, and this applies to just about any situation, do not fight with a man or country that does not have much to lose. Iranians from history have been a proud people, they are not cowards and I can assure you that the war, if it happens, will have a totally different outcome from the one you expect even as you sit on your sofa with your popcorn, to cheer the US as you tune into western mass media.

If war were to happen, innocents will die. The elites will take care of themselves and the rich will only get richer as a result of all this.

Spread love NOT war.


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Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why Iran hates Israel and the USA?

Please do not take this as offensive because I do not mean it as such, I would suggest you do some honest digging and also keep a very open mind.

I was also like you at some point. I grew up thinking the world was Black and White. Good versus Evil. I did not know that the ones who pose as good are more evil than the ones who are painted as such. Then I discovered that life is just a series of cause and effect and things do not happen randomly they happen for a reason.

I think I have come to a safe conclusion that the world will never be at peace but the world will be a much better and peaceful place if every country were strong in their own way.

Righteousness89:
The Fact of the Matter is That the Sanctions on Iran by the USA crippled Iran and its officials..

Iranian igc are known to fight through their proxies ..

Iran is a nation with Some great citizens but Extremists jihadist leaders.. Their Hatred for Isreal is out of this World...

Jerusalem ( The city of David) is the Target.. but it's in vain..

Most of the Fights you see in the Middle East is what I Term " The Hands of Esau but the voice of Jacob"

Hezebollah
PMF
Hamas
Yemenis fighters
Are all proxies of iran..

The Blowing up of Saudi Aramco was purely the Iran Igc..

The Killing of the American contractor in Iraq was purely the Iran igc

The Destruction of the USA embassy in Iraq by The PMF was the Hand of Iran..

General Suleiman was with Vice Commander of PMF when they were targeted !

Iran Greatest Enemies is Isreal...

The sight of Isreal runs their leaders mad..

Their Issue with American is because of the US support for Isreal

Sorry bro, not my fault that you have rubbish inside your head in the place of your brain.

iswallker:
[[s]quote author=kayjay69 post=85531879]The whole thing has turned into one big joke honestly.

So let me get this straight, the US invades a very stable and somewhat calm Iraq with Saddam Hussein as its President under the pretext of having Nuclear and Chemical weapons. They kill him like a dog in the street then Iran has a field day because Iraq is a Shia majority.

Not happy with this outcome, the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel establish and empower ISIL (or ISIS whichever you choose) to primarily limit Iran's growing influence via proxy and contain them within their own borders. When the whole thing starts getting out of hand, Russia steps in to save their buddy Syria via military pact, Iran steps in to limit the spread of ISIS (this was what Qasem Soleimani did and did very effectively), then the same USA steps in pretending to fight ISIL (or ISIS).

ISIS gets kicked in the teeth mainly due to the Shia militia groups led by Soleimani, US sees their influence waning in the region, in Syria they are not wanted, in Iraq nobody needs them. And they know for sure with a Shia majority led parliament, it was only a matter of time before they were asked to leave. So Trump does something only Trump would do and assassinates a high ranking Iranian General who has led to their diminished stature in the region and after the Iraqi parliament passed a resolution asking them to leave the country, they label the Shiite Militia group responsible for fighting and limiting ISIL a terrorist organisation.

My conclusion really is this, the United States of America is the biggest Terrorist Organisation in the world and every country that values its existence and heritage must work to ensure they are strong and independent to standup to their tactics.[/s]

So you believe the rubbish you wrote up there. Just smh for you..

The question shows your brainpower.

uninspired07:
Are you a Muslim?

Well, naturally Israel would praise the man's death. I mean why wouldn't they. In the last major showdown, he was afterall the same man behind the scenes on the Hezbollah side, who led to a stalemate and forced the Israeli army to retreat when their noses were bloodied.

So i expect Israel must cheer.

The whole thing has turned into one big joke honestly.

So let me get this straight, the US invades a very stable and somewhat calm Iraq with Saddam Hussein as its President under the pretext of having Nuclear and Chemical weapons. They kill him like a dog in the street then Iran has a field day because Iraq is a Shia majority.

Not happy with this outcome, the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel establish and empower ISIL (or ISIS whichever you choose) to primarily limit Iran's growing influence via proxy and contain them within their own borders. When the whole thing starts getting out of hand, Russia steps in to save their buddy Syria via military pact, Iran steps in to limit the spread of ISIS (this was what Qasem Soleimani did and did very effectively), then the same USA steps in pretending to fight ISIL (or ISIS).

ISIS gets kicked in the teeth mainly due to the Shia militia groups led by Soleimani, US sees their influence waning in the region, in Syria they are not wanted, in Iraq nobody needs them. And they know for sure with a Shia majority led parliament, it was only a matter of time before they were asked to leave. So Trump does something only Trump would do and assassinates a high ranking Iranian General who has led to their diminished stature in the region and after the Iraqi parliament passed a resolution asking them to leave the country, they label the Shiite Militia group responsible for fighting and limiting ISIL a terrorist organisation.

My conclusion really is this, the United States of America is the biggest Terrorist Organisation in the world and every country that values its existence and heritage must work to ensure they are strong and independent to standup to their tactics.

Are you aware that on some occasion whilst fighting ISIL (or ISIS whatever you call them) the CIA had sought the help and cooperation of this General that they killed?

The fact is there is no real loyalty toward the US. If you are smart as a country you make it strictly transactional. The man flew in a commercial airplane from Syria to Iraq. He landed at Baghdad international airport. He used a mobile phone before he left Syria. He took no measures to mask his trail I guess he thought the US would be crazy to assassinate him just like that. Well, it was this overconfidence in a way that was his undoing. He should have taken steps atleast to conceal his movement even though the US would have found him eventually but make it hard nonetheless.

Anyway, I think Iran will respond in kind but it won't be now. I think they'll speed up their nuclear weapons research and when they have it which I think they can pretty soon, they will strike. But for now, they will sit this one out.

Fash20:
I doubt iran can do anything... They wouldn't want to risk a full blown war with the US.

But the truth is that the general shouldn't have been assassinated based on some intelligence which might not be right. I believe they are just looking for a reason to invade Iran.

Rest in peace Great man of God. Growing up, I'll never forget your crusade in my village in South West Nigeria and the impact you had on us that night.

Well if they are facts, which by the way they are then I guess it does not matter what I believe.

27Pushing30:
Bro do you really believe all you just wrote?

You think this is an APC vs PDP argument or Man Utd vs Arsenal abi. Issokay continue

donprinyo:
Stop blabbing. US will calm Iran down.

You have spoken well. May I add that I often laugh at Nigerians who are just interested in picking sides rather than understanding the full extent of this conflict. In our typical fashion, we just hop on the side likely to win or the so-called good guy or the christian nation upholding christian values, suppressing the muslims. But most people here do not even understand what is going on or maybe they simply do not care.

In the 50s, Iran was a democracy, a fully functioning democracy until the US and UK came and overthrew the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh because he wanted to nationalise the oil industry of his country. Installed a puppet Shah Pahlavi that the people later overthrew and the result was an Islamic republic till this day. The US and other western powers will never learn from their mistakes. When they interfere in another nation's affairs, something worse than before always happens. Always. And they wonder why the Iranians hate them. And then they turn around and say they are fighting for their interests (which is ALWAYS to the detriment of the other nation) OR they are fighting to liberate or to democratise (when we know it's simply about spreading their hegemony and stranglehold on the world).

No nation is perfect, this much I admit but these moves made by the US and other western powers over the last 70 years have steadily made the world as a whole an unstable place.

tundess:
The US will be forced out of the ME. Soulemani death was the tribute. First Iraq by being asked by the Iraqi govt to leave, then Syria.
Soulemani had been rallying Iraqi parliamentarians to put together legislation calling for US removal from Iraq. In other words, he was an "imminent threat" to US continuation in Iraq.
If you're interested, read below. If not, wave Old Glory.
Clausewitz wrote that war also exists on a moral plane. If the US strikes as Trump has boasted, it is the sure sign of its decline, much like Suez was for Britain and France. There are many conservatives in the US who are appalled by Trump being co-opted to do Israeli and Saudi foreign policy. And it's not a stretch to imagine a false flag attack on a Saudi installation being blamed on Iran. Trump would therefore have to react. Interesting times.....
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/iranian-revenge-will-be-a-dish-best-served-cold/

Yes the US is the #1 military power in the world but spending does not necessarily make you the strongest and give you a true advantage. A case in point, the US spends billions to build stealth fighter jets, littoral class warships, the aegis system and so on, these are supposed to be state of the art equipments that are not supposed to fail and should give them an edge in the event of a war. Well unless they are dealing with some 3rd world country without basic defenses.

Russia spends millions to develop missile defense systems such as the S-300 and S-400 that have proven capable at intercepting such cutting edge technology that the US parades all around the world.

If you think the US will lose say 2 or 3 B-2 stealth bombers, or an aircraft carrier or a bunch of destroyers in the event of a war with Iran and they'll keep on coming, then you do not know what you are talking about. And believe me, the Iranians can, if the Syrians using an S-200 Soviet Era missile battery could shoot at and damage the Israeli F-35I over Syrian airspace, then I think the Iranians can do better with help from Russian Voronezh radars. (Israel did deny this ever happened and claimed it was a bird strike). There is something called the cost of war. Just like in Vietnam, if the US sees they are losing they'll just pack up their bags and leave. And this is why other countries have picked and chosen the type of technology to invest in order to deter the US of ever thinking of going to war with it. Think of Hypersonic Weapons, Nuclear Weapons, Submarines et al, they are all weapons of deterrence so that if the war mongering USA thinks it can, they'll be forced to think again.

The US may be able to defeat any conventional army head to head (without use of nuclear weapons) BUT there is a cost to everything. Is it a cost they will be willing to pay knowing fully well if they commit all their resources and lose they become weakened leaving a power vacuum for others such as China to fill.

Iran has an arsenal of short to medium range ballistic missiles that will give the US some trouble especially their bases across the middle east. And Iran will fight dirty through asymmetric means which means this war will only be protracted and the casualties on both sides will be heavier than in any recent wars. And please be reminded as well, WARS ARE FOUGHT AND WON ON THE GROUND AND IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF PEOPLE. The Iranians are about 80-90% United behind their leaders. They may protest economic hardships within the country but that does not mean they want a Western imposed democracy, they are doing just fine under their Islamic rule and despite a truckload of sanctions. And eventually, they'll just become more creative and be forced to create from within rather than depend on the outside world. Also just imagine this, the US were never fully able to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq both of which even when combined are not equal in size to Iran. The US is still fighting in Afghanistan till this day. And that is Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban, a bunch of rag tying tribal warlords. How much more a fully motivated Iranian army who are experienced at war and are ready to die to defend their country.

The US is not stupid, if they get lured into a full out war with Iran, it will drag on over another 10 years atleast. The end result will be more deficit to the American economy thereby making America weaker and China stronger in the longer term. Don't forget Iran is a major partner with China when it comes its belt and road initiative. Iran is a Russian ally, in the event of war same as Syria the Russians will limit American Airpower, that means they must put boots on the ground and I guarantee you that will be the undoing of America cos the Iranians know their topography better than anyone else and they have been defending it for the past 2000 years.

I do not like wars and I do not wish for both countries to go to war but if they do, believe me it will not be the outcome everyone thinks. If Iran is wise they'll sit this one out and respond later down the road. If the USA is wise they'll focus on building their domestic issues at home and avoid unnecessary wars.

Crispels:
Even all of those people comparing the Chinese or Iranian military might to the U.S are ill-informed. Do you guys even know the amount the Americans spend on their military every year? No nation is even close to spending what the Americans invest in military hardware. Google it - a country that spends over 750billion dollars on its military per year is no joke! No other country in the world even spends half of that.

Even in terms of economy, the economy of California alone(just a state in the United States) is bigger than the economy of the whole of Russia's(California's economy is bigger than U.K and France economy as well). You people should go online and read about the military and economic might of the United States in comparison with other superpowers. China is just rebuilding its military and because the Chinese do display their weapons every year does not mean they are better than the Americans. Americans don't have time for annual military exhibitions - they don't need to show the world the kinds of Drones they have - you will only know about it after they must have used it - like the one they used last night in Iraq. Abeg!

Comments such as this just goes to prove the old saying right "if you want to hide something from a nigga, put it in a book".

It's a new year, don't outsource your capacity to think to someone else. Do your independent research, read, read, read and maybe in the course of the knowledge you will have gained you will become free.

GamalNasser:
We support U Trump ..Iran can only identify Target but they dare not attack any of those target because that would be the end of that Rogue regime that destroyed the prosperity and happiness of Persia .. American B52 bombers on standby to destroy 52 targets in Iran.

You have spoken with knowledge unlike most reactionaries on this thread. Whilst the USA may hail this as a masterstroke or some sort of tit for tat, anyone who knows anything about the middle east and world politics
knows this was a bad move by the US, an act of desperation seeing as they are losing their grip on Iraq to Iran. It may seem like it was justified but in a couple years down the line, in hindsight you'll see it was a bad move. The only issue is we as humans the world over tend to forget easily.

Taking Qasem Soleimani out, a top ranking General, not some foot soldier within the Iranian army is the equivalent of taking out the Head of the US Special Forces or CIA. It will not be taken lightly by Iran, Russia and China who are pretty good at playing neutral should observe this, if it happens to Iran it could as well happen to them. The Ayatollah will simply replace him with someone worse and more determined than ever to continue these proxy wars. If the US acted to provoke Iran into war with it, knowing fully well that it would help Trump, well you just never know it may not help him that much, if Iran manages to shutdown the strait of hormuz, oil prices will go skyhigh and that may impact America's economy negatively heading into an election year.

The JCPOA was a decent agreement by the US under Obama and its joint signatories. Trump came into power with the sole intention of provoking and going to war with Iran and by tearing up that agreement it has forced the hands of Iran. Instead of nudging Israel to the reconciliation table with Palestine, Trump has emboldened Israel to continue to act recklessly in the region and this in turn has given the Iranians the excuse to continue to wage these proxy wars against Israel.

And you guys need to understand this, Iran is very different from Iraq, Afghanistan or any country the US has faced in recent times. Their citizens are very patriotic and historically they are great warriors. We know what happened the last time when the US faced a very motivated country as such in the mould of Vietnam, it did not end well. Technology is great to have but Wars are fought and won on the ground, always remember that. If the US is still involved in Afghanistan till date against a bunch of rag tying tribal warlords, how do you think they would fare against a much more motivated and highly organised military.

This whole war is the idea of the Zionist government within Israel. The outcome will not be what the world thinks it will be. This is why I have always believed that the best way to have world peace is for every country to have nuclear weapons. If Iran truly had nuclear weapons with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, I can bet you this would never have happened for fear of repercussions.
Nuclear weapons are a quite potent deterrent really.

Kerfuffle:
"The flag of General Soleimani in defense of the country's territorial integrity and the fight against terrorism and extremism in the region will be raised, and the path of resistance to US excesses will continue. The great nation of Iran will take revenge for this heinous crime"—Hassan Rouhani, President, Islamic Republic of Iran.

It's funny how many people chose to tow the path of stupidity as shown in their comments. Too many brain dead individuals on this forum.

There's almost no way America will remain the United States of America after the lapse of this decade.
Trump obviously wants war, and this time, this war (and subsequent ones it'll possibly trigger) will consume not only him, but his nation too. This time, the battle will not end on US bases across the world, Mainland US must get a taste too.

Iran is not one jungle like that in West Africa whose inhabitants will wait for God to come and fight their battles rather than utilizing the facilities he has blessed them with. Iran Will never take this lying low, they will strike effectively and catch the United Srates of America off-guard. When USA starts receiving body bags steadily, they'll know it's gameover.

The Dollar is already getting shaky, debts are off the roof, plenty hidden enemies and couple with the fact that the world has already had enough of US'es bullshit. 2020 is laced with surprises. Down to the wicked oppressor!

Some children who are better off reading their Integrated Science textbook or at best preparing for jamb are also giving naive comments.